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Title: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on March 11, 2018, 07:13:10 PM
A conversation with Road Reptile today reminded me we needed a thread on the '67-'68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 hardtops. The '68-'70 registry has the exact numbers for both years, but together they were less than 380 cars. I don't think they were documented, or at the least, nothing has been found and shared. They were limited to a few colors, 10-spoke wheels, Goodyear Speedway 350s, and possibly only a 289 in both years. No lemans stripes were pictured and I'm not sure what interior was included. Was it the standard black camera case dash or the brushed aluminum?

Has anyone ever seen one in person?

Some of you may have seen a color photo of a lime gold hardtop that appears to be a '68 by the front side marker. I'm not convinced this is a Shelby de Mexico GT350 hardtop. It appeared to be custom built car with '69-'70 side stripes '68 California Special styled stripes, '66 10-spoke wheels, and a '67 Shelby hood scoop on a standard '67 Mustang hood (shorter hood to fit Mustang nose).

I'll post some of the known vintage photos with a few comments about each one.
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on March 11, 2018, 07:14:12 PM
This first photo shows 2 white hardtops and the employees who built them.  We can see there is no trunk emblem, no bumper guards, and no rear valence exhaust cutout/trim (or stamped exhaust recess if a later built car). Neither of these white cars appears to have a vinyl top, but they do appear to have the 10-spoke rims. If either has lettered tires they might be the small version as they are not visible. I'm guessing the side stripes are blue to give them the quintessential Shelby look.

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/204-110318170522-5832054.jpeg)
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on March 11, 2018, 07:15:40 PM
This next photo shows men in suits with a black hardtop. I'm sure one of them must be Eduardo Velazquez who started this venture. The inboard grille appears to be a vertical version with the emblem appearing straight, not slanted down. Looking at the door cut line and the fender emblem, the side stripes don't appear to be applied to the correct Shelby American factory standards, but rather centered on the fender. Again, we see the 10-spoke wheels with small lettered Goodyear tires. The Terlingua logo is a nice touch

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/204-110318170522-5972237.jpeg)
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on March 11, 2018, 07:18:30 PM
This third photo shows more men in suits in the background and the same black hardtop with that Terlingua logo.
I wonder if that is the 65 SA notch Eduardo drove, also in the background?

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/204-110318170522-598127.jpeg)
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on March 11, 2018, 07:19:45 PM
This last vintage photo (advertisement) shows what appears to be a red hardtop (noted as maroon in the registry). Once again we see the same incorrectly positioned side stripe, the 10-spoke wheels, and the small lettered Goodyear tires. This is noted to be the prototype, built with a supercharger that was not offered as an option. Notice there is no side emblem. 

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/204-110318170522-599390.jpeg)
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on March 13, 2018, 10:52:26 AM
Here's the lime gold '68? hardtop noted in the original post that I suspect is a custom not a Shelby de Mexico

Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Bob Gaines on March 13, 2018, 11:51:55 AM
Quote from: Richstang on March 13, 2018, 10:52:26 AM
Here's the lime gold '68? hardtop noted in the original post that I suspect is a custom not a Shelby de Mexico
I don't think radial TA's came out until the later 70's certainly not 67-70 era which at the least dates the picture to well after the cars were produced and as you suspect a later custom attempt by someone . Just my opinion.
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: KR Convertible on March 13, 2018, 12:07:49 PM
That font on the radial T/As didn't come out until the early 80s.  A year or two after I started as a "Tire Toad".    ;)
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 13, 2018, 02:39:27 PM
Shelby de mejico
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 13, 2018, 02:40:15 PM
Shelby de mejico
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 13, 2018, 02:44:20 PM
info on white car
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 13, 2018, 02:47:21 PM
Senor Shelby and amigos

Eddy is on the right hand side
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 13, 2018, 02:48:32 PM
Shelby de mejico display
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 13, 2018, 02:52:35 PM
el carro negro
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 13, 2018, 02:53:12 PM
el carro negro
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 13, 2018, 02:53:34 PM
el carro negro
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 13, 2018, 02:54:06 PM
el carro negro
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 13, 2018, 02:54:34 PM
el carro negro
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 13, 2018, 03:04:28 PM
el shelby
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 13, 2018, 03:05:10 PM
el shelby
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 13, 2018, 03:05:43 PM
el shelby
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 13, 2018, 03:07:42 PM
el shelby
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 13, 2018, 03:08:11 PM
el shelby
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 13, 2018, 03:08:35 PM
el shelby
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 13, 2018, 03:59:17 PM
uno mas
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Bigfoot on March 13, 2018, 05:33:10 PM
Holy Toledo
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 13, 2018, 05:35:26 PM
Quote from: Bigfoot on March 13, 2018, 05:33:10 PM
Holy Toledo


no......ole!
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on March 13, 2018, 06:29:08 PM
There's a lot of '69 stuff here, but nothing really new for the 67-68 years, per the thread title.
I can't believe nothing is out there for either year. Not a junk car, a driver, or restored car.
We see a lot of cars from '69 in all sorts of colors.
???
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 14, 2018, 09:20:02 AM
Buenos dias

we have reached out to the following mustang groups Mejico Belize Honduras Guatemala Costa Rica Nicaragua and even Puerto Rico

So far the info is not good on models previous to 69

One lead in ciudad mejico says that in the streets of Leon in the colony of Condesa there may have been or is one.

In Culiacan,  Sinaloa  may have a lead that says they know of a individual who worked with Velasquez.   Attempting to locate him. Last seen about 1 to 2 years ago when he was interviewed by a local chanel on his automotive career

Contacts will get back to us maybe manana....
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: propayne on March 14, 2018, 10:19:01 AM
Very interesting that that overhead shot of what looks like a race car has a sunroof.

Shape and location makes it appear like a factory style ASC installation.

- Phillip
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on March 14, 2018, 11:18:22 AM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 14, 2018, 09:20:02 AM
Buenos dias

we have reached out to the following mustang groups Mejico Belize Honduras Guatemala Costa Rica Nicaragua and even Puerto Rico

So far the info is not good on models previous to 69

One lead in ciudad mejico says that in the streets of Leon in the colony of Condesa there may have been or is one.

In Culiacan,  Sinaloa  may have a lead that says they know of a individual who worked with Velasquez.   Attempting to locate him. Last seen about 1 to 2 years ago when he was interviewed by a local chanel on his automotive career

Contacts will get back to us maybe manana....

Thank you for reaching out to both of those groups. Hopefully one of them will find something to share!
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: roddster on March 15, 2018, 10:01:44 AM
  I've been to a few SAAC conventions.  Never seen a 67 or 68 except here on the forum in photos.  At the most of the conventions, there has been at least one 69 de Mexico.  Gee, don't recall one at SAAC 42 either.
  Add to the colors shown: Brittany blue (or whatever light blue color they called it in '69)
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 15, 2018, 10:36:37 AM
continues to be a very elusive unicorn,  just got this from mejico
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 15, 2018, 10:43:16 AM
here is another picture of a 69

my contact is attempting to reach out to the ingeniero as he believes he may still have a 67 or 68 shelby de Mejico
This ingeniero is elderly,  lives in small town and has no internet s
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on March 15, 2018, 12:29:04 PM
these rims where bought from el ingeniero (the engineer) who is a elderly gentleman who worked for Velasquez

currently residing in sinaloa

Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on March 15, 2018, 04:43:18 PM
Interesting center caps on the Magstars.

Not sure but the rims on the left look like '69 Boss 302 rims.
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on March 29, 2018, 07:58:24 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 15, 2018, 10:43:16 AM
here is another picture of a 69

my contact is attempting to reach out to the ingeniero as he believes he may still have a 67 or 68 shelby de Mejico
This ingeniero is elderly,  lives in small town and has no internet s

Hi Tony, any news on the '67 or '68 Shelby de Mexico from your contact?
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: J_Speegle on March 29, 2018, 10:44:01 PM
Staying with the title and years of the post (69's are fairly easy to find pictures of)  Here is one I didn't see posted yet.

Have no information on either of these two cars being prepped for a race apparently

Looks like they are adding at least the trunk lid and end caps (car in back ground) to already built and modified (rear wheel wells changed and painted) Mustangs. Possibly the first two cars converted.

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/10/6-290318224220.jpeg)
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on March 30, 2018, 10:40:09 AM
Quote from: J_Speegle on March 29, 2018, 10:44:01 PM
Staying with the title and years of the post (69's are fairly easy to find pictures of)  Here is one I didn't see posted yet.

Have no information on either of these two cars being prepped for a race apparently

Looks like they are adding at least the trunk lid and end caps (car in back ground) to already built and modified (rear wheel wells changed and painted) Mustangs. Possibly the first two cars converted.

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/10/6-290318224220.jpeg)

Great photo Jeff!!!
I knew I saw it before, but never looked at it close enough to realize it was a Shelby de Mexico hardtop. (I had a smaller version of this photo in my '68 T/A folder) This is probably the first time most of us have ever seen a 1968 version. The early style quarter panel reflector could mean it was one of the first built, but we'll probably never know for sure.

It looks like all the fiberglass is unpainted and just getting added to the car in the background. We see the factory worker fitting the driver side end cap. Also I'm not sure that is a race car. The fender doesn't look to have the larger flare like the car in the foreground.

We also see a hint of a third car in the lower left.
Thank You for posting this photo!
8)
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Federico Garza on April 09, 2018, 01:37:27 AM
Quote from: Richstang on March 13, 2018, 10:52:26 AM
Here's the lime gold '68? hardtop noted in the original post that I suspect is a custom not a Shelby de Mexico

Thats an original one, ive talked to the owner several times thru facebook....
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on April 09, 2018, 12:03:39 PM
Quote from: Federico Garza on April 09, 2018, 01:37:27 AM
Quote from: Richstang on March 13, 2018, 10:52:26 AM
Here's the lime gold '68? hardtop noted in the original post that I suspect is a custom not a Shelby de Mexico

Thats an original one, ive talked to the owner several times thru facebook....

Hi Federico,
Thanks for chiming in and welcome to the forum.

What more car you tell us about this car. Do you know the year?
It's hard to tell with the '68 front side marker and no marker on the rear. (although there does appear to be an emblem on the rear.)

I noted it as a likely clone because it looks nothing like the typical Shelby de Mexico hardtops we have shown here in this thread.
It has '66 10-spoke rims, and from what I've read they were only the later '67 style used on these cars from 67-70.
The side stripe is similar to a '68 California Special, another detail not previously seen on a Shelby de Mexico car.
It has a '67 Shelby fender emblem placed in the stripes (a different location than the correct spot on a '67 Shelby fastback).
The nose appear to be a standard Mustang version, while the hood appears to be a aftermarket '67 Shelby style that is shorter to fit with a Mustang nose.
Maybe the owner (past of present) to some liberties with the restoration.

If you can add any more information or photos, we (I) would certainly appreciate it. Thanks


(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/204-090418115137-8691888.jpeg)
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: tesgt350 on April 09, 2018, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: Richstang on April 09, 2018, 12:03:39 PM
Quote from: Federico Garza on April 09, 2018, 01:37:27 AM
Quote from: Richstang on March 13, 2018, 10:52:26 AM
Here's the lime gold '68? hardtop noted in the original post that I suspect is a custom not a Shelby de Mexico

Thats an original one, ive talked to the owner several times thru facebook....

Hi Federico,
Thanks for chiming in and welcome to the forum.

What more car you tell us about this car. Do you know the year?
It's hard to tell with the '68 front side marker and no marker on the rear. (although there does appear to be an emblem on the rear.)

I noted it as a likely clone because it looks nothing like the typical Shelby de Mexico hardtops we have shown here in this thread.
It has '66 10-spoke rims, and from what I've read they were only the later '67 style used on these cars from 67-70.
The side stripe is similar to a '68 California Special, another detail not previously seen on a Shelby de Mexico car.
It has a '67 Shelby fender emblem placed in the stripes (a different location than the correct spot on a '67 Shelby fastback).
The nose appear to be a standard Mustang version, while the hood appears to be a aftermarket '67 Shelby style that is shorter to fit with a Mustang nose.
Maybe the owner (past of present) to some liberties with the restoration.

If you can add any more information or photos, we (I) would certainly appreciate it. Thanks


(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/204-090418115137-8691888.jpeg)

It appears to be the 1967 Grill, Dash & Deck Lid Emblem on the rear Quarters.
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on April 09, 2018, 12:20:54 PM
Thanks tesgt350,
I believe you are right about that rear quarter emblem.
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on April 09, 2018, 03:24:12 PM
Quote from: Richstang on March 29, 2018, 07:58:24 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 15, 2018, 10:43:16 AM
here is another picture of a 69

my contact is attempting to reach out to the ingeniero as he believes he may still have a 67 or 68 shelby de Mejico
This ingeniero is elderly,  lives in small town and has no internet s

Hi Tony, any news on the '67 or '68 Shelby de Mexico from your contact?

As of this moment nothing has turned up on 67 or 68 Shelby de Mejico. Interesting is that within the last weeks a 69 was sold. If I receive anything further on 67 or 68 I will post.
Regards
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Bob Gaines on April 09, 2018, 03:56:25 PM
Food for thought - the Shelby ten spokes of the day were made for 1967 cars and not 1968 cars. The period tenspokes do not fit a 68 without thick wheel spacers because of the different single piston brake calipers.The wheels would fit on a 67 Brake caliper which also match's the rear quarters. A 68 fender could be easily switched onto a 67 body otherwise why have the prerequisite marker like in the front fender but not in the rear quarter. At the very least it is not a period photo given the tires that are on the car. Regardless one way or the other there is more to the story .   
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on April 09, 2018, 05:34:29 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on April 09, 2018, 03:56:25 PM
Food for thought - the Shelby ten spokes of the day were made for 1967 cars and not 1968 cars. The period tenspokes do not fit a 68 without thick wheel spacers because of the different single piston brake calipers.The wheels would fit on a 67 Brake caliper which also match's the rear quarters. A 68 fender could be easily switched onto a 67 body otherwise why have the prerequisite marker like in the front fender but not in the rear quarter. At the very least it is not a period photo given the tires that are on the car. Regardless one way or the other there is more to the story .

Good points to raise here Bob. In particular, I was wondering about the brake clearance, since the '67 10-spoke wheels show up on the later 69 Shelby de Mexico models too. I wonder if the Mexican built Mustangs had the larger brake calipers upgrades in '68 and '69 like the US models.

I agree, it's definitely a more recent photo of this lime gold hardtop. The '67 GT350 dash emblem placed on the quarter panel is in the same location where the two holes would be on a later built '68 with a bolt on reflector. Or, the '68 fender was switched. This car could go both ways, thus the question on the model year. Maybe Federico can help resolve the question. 
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Bob Gaines on April 09, 2018, 09:04:56 PM
Quote from: Richstang on April 09, 2018, 05:34:29 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on April 09, 2018, 03:56:25 PM
Food for thought - the Shelby ten spokes of the day were made for 1967 cars and not 1968 cars. The period tenspokes do not fit a 68 without thick wheel spacers because of the different single piston brake calipers.The wheels would fit on a 67 Brake caliper which also match's the rear quarters. A 68 fender could be easily switched onto a 67 body otherwise why have the prerequisite marker like in the front fender but not in the rear quarter. At the very least it is not a period photo given the tires that are on the car. Regardless one way or the other there is more to the story .

Good points to raise here Bob. In particular, I was wondering about the brake clearance, since the '67 10-spoke wheels show up on the later 69 Shelby de Mexico models too. I wonder if the Mexican built Mustangs had the larger brake calipers upgrades in '68 and '69 like the US models.

I agree, it's definitely a more recent photo of this lime gold hardtop. The '67 GT350 dash emblem placed on the quarter panel is in the same location where the two holes would be on a later built '68 with a bolt on reflector. Or, the '68 fender was switched. This car could go both ways, thus the question on the model year. Maybe Federico can help resolve the question.
Later 68 tenspoke wheels were machined different to create more clearance. With that said some still needed a wheel spacer for them to fit.
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Federico Garza on April 09, 2018, 10:26:38 PM
Bob and others , I live in Mexico, I will get a full run down on the car from the owner and post all the information that he has.... to be continued.
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Federico Garza on April 09, 2018, 10:32:52 PM
(https://scontent.ftij3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24232097_1548699898551002_8983483043936606940_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=b1949affe3971b80a00745e0a8c3133f&oe=5B6CC87B)
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Tired Sheep on April 09, 2018, 10:49:23 PM
The same Frederico Garza that was posting about the so called "Bullitt" car?
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Federico Garza on April 10, 2018, 12:42:24 AM
Quote from: Tired Sheep on April 09, 2018, 10:49:23 PM
The same Frederico Garza that was posting about the so called "Bullitt" car?

Same one (Federico not Frederico).... real deal bullit stunt car  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

(https://scontent.ftij3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/16992096_10210025551449382_4740682382686917072_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=63394800c0a70e27c77f677bffe08b74&oe=5B6D73F9)

Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Coralsnake on April 10, 2018, 09:40:51 AM
 :'(
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Federico Garza on April 10, 2018, 10:55:36 AM
Heres more pics of the car:

(https://scontent.ftij3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/30429325_1681824115238579_338626636_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGOLGjrUuEbG6kmMd6H-5pEZbZWgLcU9KKORBjbhnBKCn5iXv3NCyKwxzn3D7IY3KEwNFHB-v5IZwNxs94KJdG7R7Keug2Lm5LvTCaqi2rptA&oh=b209b315fde386346eea6a67d0015911&oe=5ACF049C)

(https://scontent.ftij3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/30020442_1681824085238582_1045558951_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeG6sloN4l62BMUE9H7XrKuah8PQqAA4gqCV7RhpsmtcJDnyibXivBXHAOvguC2kAqAxIMAAR70FFk6b0DKjr_j46JArfCQJUKue3YKXX8KMCA&oh=e46eea449e118b54186d3c233aa95888&oe=5ACF11D8)

Invoice for the car:
(https://scontent.ftij3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30530846_10213417505126104_9110975637142418805_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGBByN4s5lboirbbMi1POUDELAm6d0qzhQlKRTtq9iLhaJSjbMDKxWkNPssILWNPve-pZbsIwmNjPuV4S14r50ykbq9t2vXxOhvLMFP2vJNbQ&oh=301617f15a0879610f5711c6d7e35560&oe=5B716E55)

And for the shelby parts:

(https://scontent.ftij3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30594869_10213417503366060_9172131342344554250_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeEwrwkZ2NbKXS0oku2K7M0OqXFzY5-c6AIVLWPKiLIX0yvTImMfWcs7a2diy7-sDGsUdp937wHhQCuRJ6zjVE8CFgwEBT_qk0Ocz-wA-sJwDw&oh=8117ec31d1ee15ee2d7dadb00ada6a1d&oe=5B6A5710)
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on April 10, 2018, 12:06:43 PM
Thank you Federico!
8)

The documents and photos are much appreciated. If there's more, please keep posting them.

I'll have to use Google to translate the documents, but I do understand some of it. We now know it is a 1968 model year and the interior photos with the wood grain dash inserts support that. It's interesting to see '67 emblems on a '68 car. I still wonder how much is original and how much was changed during the restoration.


(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/204-031020191951.jpeg)

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/204-031020192046.jpeg)

Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Bob Gaines on April 10, 2018, 02:40:45 PM
It also strange to see 14 inch 66 tenspoke wheels on a 68  ;) .
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Federico Garza on April 10, 2018, 02:58:22 PM
Quote from: Richstang on April 10, 2018, 12:06:43 PM
Thank you Federico!
8)

The documents and photos are much appreciated. If there's more, please keep posting them.

I'll have to use Google to translate the documents, but I do understand some of it. We now know it is a 1968 model year and the interior photos with the wood grain dash inserts support that. It's interesting to see '67 emblems on a '68 car. I still wonder how much is original and how much was changed during the restoration.

Your welcome, car was bought in 1968,  the current owner is the 2nd owner, and its been on the road since new, not restored, just your regular used car mainteneance and paint job...  I will gladly ask if he has changed something so he can point it out...
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Federico Garza on April 10, 2018, 03:05:56 PM
Richstang, translation for the parts invoice:

Fiberglass trunk lid with spoiler
Fiberglass hood
Hood locks
Long range headlights (im guessing these are the goofy looking foglights)
GT grill emblem
Rear stop lights
Fuel cap
Side scoops
Ail filter chrome cobra
Cobra valve covers
Shelby wood shift knob
Shelby steering wheel
Emblmes GT 2 rear, 2 side , 1 interior
GT350 side stripes painted installed on new car
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Federico Garza on April 10, 2018, 03:08:27 PM
Car invoice:
Seat belts
Center console
Side view mirror
Windshield washers
2 spd wipers
5 tires
Hazzard lights
reverse lights
AM radio and antena
Dash pad and sun visors (cushioned)
Hand tools
Bumper accesories
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on April 10, 2018, 03:19:03 PM


Bienvenido Don Federico
gracias por esta nueva informacion
un fuerte abrazo

Quote from: Federico Garza on April 10, 2018, 02:58:22 PM
Quote from: Richstang
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Your welcome, car was bought in 1968,  the current owner is the 2nd owner, and its been on the road since new, not restored, just your regular used car mainteneance and paint job...  I will gladly ask if he has changed something so he can point it out...
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Federico Garza on April 10, 2018, 03:26:53 PM
A la orden Tony, saludos desde mexicali BC Mexico....
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: gt350cs on April 10, 2018, 03:27:50 PM
Federico,

Thanks for the translation.
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Federico Garza on April 10, 2018, 08:00:25 PM
Quote from: gt350cs on April 10, 2018, 03:27:50 PM
Federico,

Thanks for the translation.

Youre welcome!!!!! I will upload more pictures in a couple of minutes...
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Federico Garza on April 10, 2018, 08:16:29 PM
So a little more background on Mr. Helmut Wunderlich's purchase, all straight from the 2nd owner:

He walked in the dealeship asking for a mustang that no one else had, thats when they sold him the mustang with the SHELBY conversion, he kept the car for a long time and drove it from mexico city to veracruz, because it was faster for him to take the car directly to work, than to fly over there... and thats about it guys... more pictures:

BTW a 69 surfaced for sale on "mercado libre" (latin americas version of ebay) a couple of weeks or months ago, the seller was asking the equivalent of $40k usd and had a very hard selling the car wich had very little to no paperwork and missingo most of its original shelby mex parts .

(https://scontent.ftij3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30653293_10213420692765793_4147753268149907899_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeF2vtlQYR1bklZHtSaT3jPtW9HStmfB7578H_uveAIoYj4mCHu3Mq7xf_o9LajMp9zS-jCEGnr_VTlKX5e-a71fpsaVkvyRl3nnyv4LqQl0JQ&oh=d67f2e26babeb0513570799fa4f32899&oe=5B6875D2)

(https://scontent.ftij3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30629515_10213420676965398_7632127322684725481_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeG9vrrG_EeJ3BxQzofqubSw3dY-JE2Y8_pdp2w5QGEz8luSDMdZhOfifZScNS9ffBCmnAehZwzpIvrOGRacFIBZ6d-xROp7KiFnZ1vzyyHrtg&oh=3e8e6239940ab8e48ac7a1a5095f86e5&oe=5B5D35B9)

(https://scontent.ftij3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30531003_10213420672005274_7652817542454933007_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGD1GvcVOpPDHiS98J_PP2YnyZTuU3anSy2qJfAqEqEBw2q1aTzWQXeuwAq1Ao_Az7FRrKuUn2oLKAW2vYF5uB_vSCuMqRIG2Pxrq6u-bqFmw&oh=fb9e9960335d421af98a5da90f083b7b&oe=5B71E2CC)
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on April 10, 2018, 08:19:05 PM
Federico, tremendo hierro !
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Federico Garza on April 10, 2018, 08:19:52 PM
There asking $68k usd for this one, claiming they have the original invoice....

https://auto.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-605423716-unico-ford-mustang-shelby-mex-_JM

Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on April 10, 2018, 11:33:37 PM
Federico,

Thank you for the translations on the two documents, all the photos, and the added owner information on this car no 273. 

A fiberglass hood is mentioned on the parts list, but nothing about a fiberglass nose. Can you ask the owner if the Shelby hood and Mustang nose on the car are original to it? It's possible that change was made to the '68 models (similar to the direction taken on the '69 models).

I'm hoping you have a front view for us to see the "long range headlights" (grille fog lights).

I still believe the silver side stripes, hood and trunk paint were owner added. The parts list notes GT350 stripes, so I'm thinking it should have the typical rocker side stripes applied, especially because both the '67's and the '69's had them. Maybe you could ask about them and if any of those side emblems were added too.

Thanks for all your help,
Rich
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Side-Oilers on April 11, 2018, 01:39:56 AM
Not that I have any proof, but those rear bumper guards remind me of the generic aftermarket type seen on some taxicabs of that era.
Thoughts?
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: gt350cs on April 11, 2018, 10:37:44 AM
Thanks for that addition pictures and the link.
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: FL SAAC on April 11, 2018, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: Federico Garza on April 10, 2018, 08:19:52 PM
There asking $68k usd for this one, claiming they have the original invoice....

https://auto.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-605423716-unico-ford-mustang-shelby-mex-_JM

Sold
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Federico Garza on April 11, 2018, 01:28:31 PM
Dammm it sold....

I requested better pics of the front end, he will send them today...

(https://scontent.ftij3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18118890_1333815160039478_5299415164112846780_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeFOqiaRpVe6pzjA-tyhs_4g0BaDWXgT130QXh7p1XYrO02ti5hZUjFCgp7EdnnUIC7lcMmAlc0iA62zFVLr7-YfYFJPrjN760mK0x_gZdJhgQ&oh=b518d706a078761b6ec5788992c2c9ce&oe=5B2723E0)
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Federico Garza on April 11, 2018, 01:39:46 PM
Richstang:

Hood and frond end pieces are original to the car, thats how it rolled out from the dealership
He says the side strip has been that way for a long time, from when he bought it. Id say 50/50 toss, they might have changed them at one point of the cars life, or it just may have come out the dealer that way...
The emblems are original to the car, the invoice states 5 emblems, 1 on the dash the other 4 on the sides.

Hes getting me a better picture of the frond end.
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Federico Garza on April 11, 2018, 01:52:42 PM
(https://scontent.ftij3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/30118821_1683372661750391_2113089130_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeHdav_-jqvR8ZyuO5JvYQK54BM2xIG3_idIXp-CUugRpW29bCuzRlFvcuHLeA3HQOOUmcGJXMslMe7-ZmbqpRNYpZsKpfWviaRvK7HjSxC89w&oh=7afee679688f2d24f5dfa82bb12dba13&oe=5AD130AF)

It has a Torino GT emblem and the fog lights are "Carello" made in italy....
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: tesgt350 on April 11, 2018, 01:56:40 PM
Quote from: Federico Garza on April 11, 2018, 01:39:46 PM
Richstang:

Hood and frond end pieces are original to the car, thats how it rolled out from the dealership
He says the side strip has been that way for a long time, from when he bought it. Id say 50/50 toss, they might have changed them at one point of the cars life, or it just may have come out the dealer that way...
The emblems are original to the car, the invoice states 5 emblems, 1 on the dash the other 4 on the sides.

Hes getting me a better picture of the frond end.

You posted that the Side Stripes were Painted on from Factory.......

Fiberglass trunk lid with spoiler
Fiberglass hood
Hood locks
Long range headlights (im guessing these are the goofy looking foglights)
GT grill emblem
Rear stop lights
Fuel cap
Side scoops
Ail filter chrome cobra
Cobra valve covers
Shelby wood shift knob
Shelby steering wheel
Emblmes GT 2 rear, 2 side , 1 interior
GT350 side stripes painted installed on new car
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on April 11, 2018, 11:21:27 PM
Quote from: Federico Garza on April 11, 2018, 01:28:31 PM
Dammm it sold....

I requested better pics of the front end, he will send them today...

(https://scontent.ftij3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18118890_1333815160039478_5299415164112846780_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeFOqiaRpVe6pzjA-tyhs_4g0BaDWXgT130QXh7p1XYrO02ti5hZUjFCgp7EdnnUIC7lcMmAlc0iA62zFVLr7-YfYFJPrjN760mK0x_gZdJhgQ&oh=b518d706a078761b6ec5788992c2c9ce&oe=5B2723E0)

Federico,
Thanks for getting this front view photo and asking if the hood and the nose were original to the car. That hood is very unique and not what I expected. It seems they created the look of a '67 Shelby hood, but used the stock vents of the 68 Mustang hood for the scoop openings. It almost looks like the overall hood scoop might be a bit wider too. I'm curious what the underside looks like. The Torino GT emblem in the grille could be a later add-on, but it is from a '68 model.

Did the owner mention when he bought the car? I ask because it was probably repainted with those silver stripes in the mid-80's or later. I can't recall silver ever being used for stripes in the 60's or 70's. I think it was Dodge that first started using them on the K-car Shelby's in the mid-'80's, then on the Vipers in the 90's. "tesgt350" reminds us that the invoice lists "painted GT350" stripes. I do think that means the typical rocker side stripes. I feel it's more like a 90/10 split that the silver Cal Spec stripes were added, not factory, but that is my guess.

Thank you so much for all your effort to get us this info and these photos.

EDIT; I also think the silver paint on the hood and trunk lid, along with the rear lip on the trunk lid were added. It's another reason why I don't think the California Special style side stripes were originally applied. I am not knocking the car at all. It's the only one we've seen other than the vintage B&W picture posted. We're lucky to have you share this car with us.
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: gt350cs on April 12, 2018, 10:13:32 AM
Overall a very nice looking car.
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Federico Garza on April 13, 2018, 11:13:06 AM
tesgt350, the 2nd invoice is for all that was done @ the dealership not for how it rolled out of the factory.

Richstang, I most definately agree it was customized with the particular stripe arrangemente at some point of the 1st owners time.....
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Road Reptile on April 14, 2018, 12:33:12 PM
Hi,
A HUGE THANKS !!!
After years of hearing about these cars we finally see a real 1968 example!! as several have mentioned 1969 examples seem to be the most popular,and so far no real 1967 cars--maybe there
is still a chance we will find at least one 1967 . Again Thanks for sharing all of this with us.
8)
R.R.
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on March 04, 2020, 10:04:10 PM
Here a link to some vintage photos of a white 1968 Shelby De Mexico Coupe in a 24hr int'l Rally in Mexico.
(In the Peterson Digital Archives)

It looks nearly identical to the Lime Gold coupe that was previously posted in this thread. (expect no cougar taillight trim).


Rear view; 3rd row, second photo
https://archive.petersen.org/pages/search.php?search=1968+mexico&k=&modal=&display=xlthumbs&order_by=relevance&offset=0&per_page=48&archive=&sort=DESC&restypes=&recentdaylimit=&foredit=&go=next&offset=48#


Front view; Page 1 first row first picture (2nd & 3rd)
https://archive.petersen.org/pages/search.php?search=1968+mexico&k=&modal=&display=xlthumbs&order_by=relevance&offset=48&per_page=48&archive=&sort=DESC&restypes=&recentdaylimit=&foredit=&go=prev&offset=0
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: BGlover67 on June 04, 2020, 03:28:27 PM
We have put together a Google research group to discuss the Shelby de Mexico's.  If anyone has any more information, or just wants to discuss them, please reach out to me and I'll add you. 

Like most of you, my first taste of these cars was a 1971 GT351 which is really nothing more than a rebadged Mustang.  The '69s seem to have a few more unique items, but it's the 1967s that intrigue me.  If you read Eduardo Vélazquez's account of what was done to the '67s and how it was performed under Shelby American's supervision, you can't help but be interested.  To date, no 1967s have surfaced either in the states or in Mexico.  Imagine a Lil Red look alike complete with 1967 style nose, hood, trunk and spoiler, but with a modified 289 under the hood.  I'd like to see one.  With a supposed production number of 169, it's hard to believe their aren't any of them out there.

As I told my friend Anthony (aka RoadReptile), just remember that both the first R model and the stunt Bullit turned up sitting in a field in Mexico.  Perhaps a few '67s are just waiting for someone to discover them?  Anyone up for a road trip? ;D

Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 04, 2020, 04:01:13 PM
Quote from: BGlover67 on June 04, 2020, 03:28:27 PM
We have put together a Google research group to discuss the Shelby de Mexico's.  If anyone has any more information, or just wants to discuss them, please reach out to me and I'll add you. 

Like most of you, my first taste of these cars was a 1971 GT351 which is really nothing more than a rebadged Mustang.  The '69s seem to have a few more unique items, but it's the 1967s that intrigue me.  If you read Eduardo Vélazquez's account of what was done to the '67s and how it was performed under Shelby American's supervision, you can't help but be interested.  To date, no 1967s have surfaced either in the states or in Mexico.  Imagine a Lil Red look alike complete with 1967 style nose, hood, trunk and spoiler, but with a modified 289 under the hood.  I'd like to see one.  With a supposed production number of 169, it's hard to believe their aren't any of them out there.

As I told my friend Anthony (aka RoadReptile), just remember that both the first R model and the stunt Bullit turned up sitting in a field in Mexico.  Perhaps a few '67s are just waiting for someone to discover them?  Anyone up for a road trip? ;D
I would bet for the right money Eduardo would find one. That is if he is still alive. Seemed like a very nice man but I got the impression there was a little of the ole snake oil salesman in him just like CS.  He used to come consistently (maybe 10 in a row) to the Mid America Show but hasn't come in the last 15 maybe.
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: JohnB on June 04, 2020, 04:04:01 PM
https://www.finn.no/car/used/ad.html?finnkode=161762309

69 currently for sale in Norway. Not mine.

VIN# AF07JB29448

Claims to be special order for Eduardo Velasquez wife.



Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: BGlover67 on June 04, 2020, 05:12:39 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on June 04, 2020, 04:01:13 PM
Quote from: BGlover67 on June 04, 2020, 03:28:27 PM
We have put together a Google research group to discuss the Shelby de Mexico's.  If anyone has any more information, or just wants to discuss them, please reach out to me and I'll add you. 

Like most of you, my first taste of these cars was a 1971 GT351 which is really nothing more than a rebadged Mustang.  The '69s seem to have a few more unique items, but it's the 1967s that intrigue me.  If you read Eduardo Vélazquez's account of what was done to the '67s and how it was performed under Shelby American's supervision, you can't help but be interested.  To date, no 1967s have surfaced either in the states or in Mexico.  Imagine a Lil Red look alike complete with 1967 style nose, hood, trunk and spoiler, but with a modified 289 under the hood.  I'd like to see one.  With a supposed production number of 169, it's hard to believe their aren't any of them out there.

As I told my friend Anthony (aka RoadReptile), just remember that both the first R model and the stunt Bullit turned up sitting in a field in Mexico.  Perhaps a few '67s are just waiting for someone to discover them?  Anyone up for a road trip? ;D
I would bet for the right money Eduardo would find one. That is if he is still alive. Seemed like a very nice man but I got the impression there was a little of the ole snake oil salesman in him just like CS.  He used to come consistently (maybe 10 in a row) to the Mid America Show but hasn't come in the last 15 maybe.

Bob isn't the first to imply this, in fact of the 6 1969 cars that have shown up over the last few years more than a few are suspected to be "continuation cars',  so he was very much following Shelby's lead.  I'm just wonder why he didn't do a '67/68?  Maybe too much work with all the extra fiberglass pieces needed?

Unfortunately, I did hear that he might have passed on by his own actions, which if true is quite sad.  Does anyone know for certain?
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: BGlover67 on June 04, 2020, 05:13:53 PM
Quote from: JohnB on June 04, 2020, 04:04:01 PM
https://www.finn.no/car/used/ad.html?finnkode=161762309

69 currently for sale in Norway. Not mine.

VIN# AF07JB29448

Claims to be special order for Eduardo Velasquez wife.

John,  thanks for posting.  How much does that translate into in terms of US dollars?
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: JohnB on June 04, 2020, 05:59:49 PM
Quote from: BGlover67 on June 04, 2020, 05:13:53 PM
Quote from: JohnB on June 04, 2020, 04:04:01 PM
https://www.finn.no/car/used/ad.html?finnkode=161762309

69 currently for sale in Norway. Not mine.

VIN# AF07JB29448

Claims to be special order for Eduardo Velasquez wife.

John,  thanks for posting.  How much does that translate into in terms of US dollars?

Around $ 61K.
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: honker on June 22, 2020, 11:32:18 AM
If you scroll past the piece on 5S109, which I posted in the thread on that car, there's some photos here of a Shelby de Mexico that

is/was in Australia, don't know how current the info is ? or if has been seen here before ?

Mike

http://www.bosskraft.com/car-files.html
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Richstang on September 03, 2020, 11:44:10 PM
Could we please keep this thread focused on the topic, the 67-68 Shelby De Mexico model years.

If anyone wants to start a thread about the other years like the 69's feel free to do that in the 69 section.
Thank you
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: honker on September 04, 2020, 09:47:19 AM
Rich, I'll get me coat sorry 'bout that  ::)  '69 Shelby de Mexico,  expunged !

Mike
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Bossbill on September 05, 2020, 06:35:13 PM
Where did the pics in reply 52 go?
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Lucky11 on July 02, 2023, 10:37:12 PM
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Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Lucky11 on July 02, 2023, 10:39:47 PM
The above picture is supposed to be a picture of a 1968 Shelby de Mexico in a road race in Mexico, look at the stripes, grill emblem and marker lights 🤔
Title: Re: 67-68 Shelby de Mexico GT350 (hardtop)
Post by: Lucky11 on July 02, 2023, 10:43:09 PM
Also found this 68 picture from Mexico, owner thinks it's a real Shelby De Mexico 🇲🇽