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Title: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: silverton_ford on June 12, 2020, 05:33:27 PM
Here is the online catalog for the Atzbach Collection.   If anyone is going to be there in person, can you grab a hard copy for me?  I will pay for it and postage.  Thank you.

https://mecum.dcatalog.com/v/The-John-Aztbach-Collection/?utm_source=Atzbach&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=SC20 (https://mecum.dcatalog.com/v/The-John-Aztbach-Collection/?utm_source=Atzbach&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=SC20)
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: Vernon Estes on June 12, 2020, 06:22:44 PM
Just FYI, this catalog is merely a highlight reel for what is in the collection. I will update the forum when the other 2700 "on time" lots are published on mecum's site ;)

Kind regards,
Vern
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: silverton_ford on June 12, 2020, 06:30:40 PM
Memorbilia Items (some of them....more later as Vern said above)

Thursday Road Art Lots:
https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indy-roadart-2020/lots/roadart/07/16/ (https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indy-roadart-2020/lots/roadart/07/16/)

Friday Road Art Lots:
https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indy-roadart-2020/lots/roadart/07/17/ (https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indy-roadart-2020/lots/roadart/07/17/)

Saturday Road Art Lots:
https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indy-roadart-2020/lots/roadart/07/18/ (https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indy-roadart-2020/lots/roadart/07/18/)
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: silverton_ford on June 12, 2020, 06:31:17 PM
Cars

https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indianapolis-2020/collections/john-atzbach-collection/ (https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indianapolis-2020/collections/john-atzbach-collection/)
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: Shelby_r_b on June 12, 2020, 08:24:51 PM
Quote from: Vernon Estes on June 12, 2020, 06:22:44 PM
Just FYI, this catalog is merely a highlight reel for what is in the collection. I will update the forum when the other 2700 "on time" lots are published on mecum's site ;)

Kind regards,
Vern

...ah, wow.
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: silverton_ford on June 22, 2020, 12:41:52 PM
The rest of John's items are posted.

https://ontime.mecum.com/ (https://ontime.mecum.com/)
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: 69mach351w on June 22, 2020, 08:39:36 PM
I remember seeing a couple of hand carved/painted 1/18 scale(approx) of a daytona coupe and another one of a 65 GT350.  Seems that an employee of SA had made them or he was a friend of CS, can't remember.  They were hand painted and beautiful works of art.  I remember barely skimming through the things from the Atzbach collection and remembering I'd like to bid on them when they come up for auction.

For the love of me, I CANNOT remember what the title of them were or who the artist was.

Anybody remember?
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: silverton_ford on June 22, 2020, 08:53:42 PM
Quote from: 69mach351w on June 22, 2020, 08:39:36 PM
I remember seeing a couple of hand carved/painted 1/18 scale(approx) of a daytona coupe and another one of a 65 GT350.  Seems that an employee of SA had made them or he was a friend of CS, can't remember.  They were hand painted and beautiful works of art.  I remember barely skimming through the things from the Atzbach collection and remembering I'd like to bid on them when they come up for auction.

For the love of me, I CANNOT remember what the title of them were or who the artist was.

Anybody remember?

The bronze sculptures by J. Paul Nesse?  Are these what you are referring to?

GT350: https://www.mecum.com/lots/RM0520-429985/original-bronze-sculpture-horses-for-courses-by-artist-j-paul-nesse/ (https://www.mecum.com/lots/RM0520-429985/original-bronze-sculpture-horses-for-courses-by-artist-j-paul-nesse/)

Daytona Coupe: https://www.mecum.com/lots/RM0520-429887/original-bronze-sculpture-daytona-coupe-by-artist-j-paul-nesse/ (https://www.mecum.com/lots/RM0520-429887/original-bronze-sculpture-daytona-coupe-by-artist-j-paul-nesse/)
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: 69mach351w on June 22, 2020, 09:19:18 PM
YES!!

Are they up for auction?  I cannot find them anywhere. I've looked under everything.

Thanks for any info :)

Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: 69mach351w on June 22, 2020, 09:28:28 PM
I found this one the Cobra. I didn't find any one of those you have listed.

And I done a search with J. Paul Nesse and only this one came up. Hmmm

UPDATE:
The ones you listed are like 1 of 24.  The auction I have posted is 1 of 900 and it's a framed print. :o

So those 2 you posted must not of made it to auction?
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: silverton_ford on June 23, 2020, 01:11:11 AM
I posted the link to the items in the auction.  Click on the link and you are there. 

You have to create an account, log in and bid when Mecum opens it for bidding.
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: 69mach351w on June 23, 2020, 02:48:50 AM
I do have an account. If you're talking about the links you have posted in reply #7, I clicked both links to see what auction listing lot numbers they were. So I tried both of them, Lot Q170 and Lot Q72 and neither comes up.   
So if you have an auction listing number for those two items in your reply #7, please post them  because I have looked all through the John Atzbach auction listings and haven't found any Lot numbers for those two items. Neither will come up on the "Mecum On Time"
Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: A-Snake on June 23, 2020, 10:03:55 AM
Quote from: 69mach351w on June 23, 2020, 02:48:50 AM
I do have an account. If you're talking about the links you have posted in reply #7, I clicked both links to see what auction listing lot numbers they were. So I tried both of them, Lot Q170 and Lot Q72 and neither comes up.   
So if you have an auction listing number for those two items in your reply #7, please post them  because I have looked all through the John Atzbach auction listings and haven't found any Lot numbers for those two items. Neither will come up on the "Mecum On Time"
Thanks for any help.

Here is the page for Saturday Q170 https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indy-roadart-2020/lots/roadart/07/18/page/6/   And here is the page for Saturday Q72 https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indy-roadart-2020/lots/roadart/07/18/page/3/
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: FL SAAC on June 23, 2020, 10:05:37 AM
Impressive
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: 69mach351w on June 23, 2020, 10:12:34 AM
Quote from: A-Snake on June 23, 2020, 10:03:55 AM
Quote from: 69mach351w on June 23, 2020, 02:48:50 AM
I do have an account. If you're talking about the links you have posted in reply #7, I clicked both links to see what auction listing lot numbers they were. So I tried both of them, Lot Q170 and Lot Q72 and neither comes up.   
So if you have an auction listing number for those two items in your reply #7, please post them  because I have looked all through the John Atzbach auction listings and haven't found any Lot numbers for those two items. Neither will come up on the "Mecum On Time"
Thanks for any help.

Here is the page for Saturday Q170 https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indy-roadart-2020/lots/roadart/07/18/page/6/   And here is the page for Saturday Q72 https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indy-roadart-2020/lots/roadart/07/18/page/3/
I underdstand what you have posted, but when you go to the Mecum "On Time" and bring up Atzbach Collection, it is not there.

The page you have posted I have brought up many times, but in order to bid, you have to register under that particular listing BUT, it is not on the "Mecum On Time" Atzbach Collection.  Bring it up, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: silverton_ford on June 23, 2020, 10:26:01 AM
Quote from: 69mach351w on June 23, 2020, 02:48:50 AM
I do have an account. If you're talking about the links you have posted in reply #7, I clicked both links to see what auction listing lot numbers they were. So I tried both of them, Lot Q170 and Lot Q72 and neither comes up.   
So if you have an auction listing number for those two items in your reply #7, please post them  because I have looked all through the John Atzbach auction listings and haven't found any Lot numbers for those two items. Neither will come up on the "Mecum On Time"
Thanks for any help.

I am not sure what you are looking at, the links work on my end, but they are both also listed on the "Bid now" page.  I doubt this link will work, you will most likely need to sign in, but here it is.  Both items are up for Proxy bid right now.  I believe actually bidding will start later on when it gets closer to the auction. - https://bidnow.mecum.com/auctions/RM0520# (https://bidnow.mecum.com/auctions/RM0520#)
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: A-Snake on June 23, 2020, 10:39:27 AM
Quote from: 69mach351w on June 23, 2020, 10:12:34 AM
 


I underdstand what you have posted, but when you go to the Mecum "On Time" and bring up Atzbach Collection, it is not there.

The page you have posted I have brought up many times, but in order to bid, you have to register under that particular listing BUT, it is not on the "Mecum On Time" Atzbach Collection.  Bring it up, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
I think you are confusing the Road Art auctions with the Mecum OnTime auctions. Q72 & Q170 are part of the Road Art auction ONLY.
There are several OnTime auctions that run for several days.
The John Atzbach Collection, Saturday July 11 - Die-Cast & Matchbox, 11:00AM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Saturday July 11 - Soda Pop, 1:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Saturday July 11 - Books, Magazines & Literature, 3:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Sunday July - 12 Toy Cars, 11:00AM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Sunday July 12 - Japanese Tin Cars, 12:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Sunday July 12 - Racing Programs, 1:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Sunday July 12 - Jewelry & Clothing, 3:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Monday July 13 - Framed Wall Art, 11:00AM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Monday July 13 - Signed Prints & Photographs, 1:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Monday July 13 - Slot & RC Cars, 2:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Monday July 13 - Large Die-Cast, 3:30PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Tuesday July 14 - Racing Checks & Press Material, 11:00AM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Tuesday July 14 - Model Kits, 12:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Tuesday July 14 - Racing Literature, 1:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Wednesday July 15 - Racing & Showroom Literature, 11:00AM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Wednesday July 15 - Lamborghini Promotions, 1:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Wednesday July 15 - Lamborghini Toys, 2:30PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Wednesday July 15 - Exoto, GMP, Kyosho, Lane & Exact Detail Die-Cast, 4:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Thursday July 16 - Car Parts, 3:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Thursday July 16 - Gas & Oil Promotions, 4:30PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Friday July 17 - Shelby Promotional Items, 3:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Friday July 17 - Ford Racing Promotions, 5:00PM ET
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: A-Snake on June 23, 2020, 10:44:02 AM
https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indianapolis-2020/lots/featured/
This page shows the schedule for the Road Art Auctions
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: 69mach351w on June 23, 2020, 10:49:55 AM
Quote from: A-Snake on June 23, 2020, 10:39:27 AM
Quote from: 69mach351w on June 23, 2020, 10:12:34 AM
 


I underdstand what you have posted, but when you go to the Mecum "On Time" and bring up Atzbach Collection, it is not there.

The page you have posted I have brought up many times, but in order to bid, you have to register under that particular listing BUT, it is not on the "Mecum On Time" Atzbach Collection.  Bring it up, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
I think you are confusing the Road Art auctions with the Mecum OnTime auctions. Q72 & Q170 are part of the Road Art auction ONLY.
There are several OnTime auctions that run for several days.
The John Atzbach Collection, Saturday July 11 - Die-Cast & Matchbox, 11:00AM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Saturday July 11 - Soda Pop, 1:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Saturday July 11 - Books, Magazines & Literature, 3:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Sunday July - 12 Toy Cars, 11:00AM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Sunday July 12 - Japanese Tin Cars, 12:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Sunday July 12 - Racing Programs, 1:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Sunday July 12 - Jewelry & Clothing, 3:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Monday July 13 - Framed Wall Art, 11:00AM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Monday July 13 - Signed Prints & Photographs, 1:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Monday July 13 - Slot & RC Cars, 2:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Monday July 13 - Large Die-Cast, 3:30PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Tuesday July 14 - Racing Checks & Press Material, 11:00AM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Tuesday July 14 - Model Kits, 12:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Tuesday July 14 - Racing Literature, 1:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Wednesday July 15 - Racing & Showroom Literature, 11:00AM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Wednesday July 15 - Lamborghini Promotions, 1:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Wednesday July 15 - Lamborghini Toys, 2:30PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Wednesday July 15 - Exoto, GMP, Kyosho, Lane & Exact Detail Die-Cast, 4:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Thursday July 16 - Car Parts, 3:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Thursday July 16 - Gas & Oil Promotions, 4:30PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Friday July 17 - Shelby Promotional Items, 3:00PM ET
The John Atzbach Collection, Friday July 17 - Ford Racing Promotions, 5:00PM ET
I went through every one of these already, and even went to the search feature and keyed in Q170 and Q72 and still they didn't come up.

It's ok, I probably wouldn't be able to afford them anyway. They are only 24 pieces. I'd end up being the lowest bidder  :o
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: A-Snake on June 23, 2020, 10:59:46 AM
I'm sorry, I guess I'm not being clear.
The Lots Q72 & Q170 are NOT part of the OnTime auctions. They are on the LIVE Saturday Road Art Auction.
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: 69mach351w on June 23, 2020, 01:10:04 PM
I found them there before, but you can't register to bid. 

I brought up the Q72 Daytona coupe and clicked the Yellow rectangular box to register and it said "404 Page Not Found"

Wonder why they would have a box to click to register and it not work?

I'm assuming problems somewhere in the site?
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: A-Snake on June 23, 2020, 01:44:21 PM
Quote from: 69mach351w on June 23, 2020, 01:10:04 PM
I found them there before, but you can't register to bid. 

I brought up the Q72 Daytona coupe and clicked the Yellow rectangular box to register and it said "404 Page Not Found"

Wonder why they would have a box to click to register and it not work?

I'm assuming problems somewhere in the site?

Here is the link to bid on the live auction:  https://my.mecum.com/register/indianapolis-2020/

Standard $150. or Gold $500
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: 69mach351w on July 12, 2020, 02:59:35 PM
I'm bidding on an item for $30 but Mecum didn't ask for the standard fee of $200.  Wow, I wasn't aware of a steep $200 fee to bid on a small item.
Looks like when you go to click a bid, they don't ask you for the "standard" fee of $200, which if they have, I would've never bid $30. 
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: 6s1640 on July 12, 2020, 03:17:00 PM
Quote from: 69mach351w on July 12, 2020, 02:59:35 PM
I'm bidding on an item for $30 but Mecum didn't ask for the standard fee of $200.  Wow, I wasn't aware of a steep $200 fee to bid on a small item.
Looks like when you go to click a bid, they don't ask you for the "standard" fee of $200, which if they have, I would've never bid $30.

Hi 69mach351w,

The "OnTime" format is free to bid.  However there will be a 20% buyer's fee plus 3% for using the VISA, plus there will be a S&H fee to a third party as well.  The Mecum OnTime bidding is their first try at this.  I expect they will have learned from this experience and will make changes next time.

It is the internet bidding that requires the $200 registration fee, plus there is a 20% deposit required.  Then there is still the buyer's fees.  I think Mecum may have scared a lot of potential bidders away because of this.

Best of luck

Cory
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: 69mach351w on July 12, 2020, 03:25:38 PM
Thanks Cory for the information.  I looked on the Mecum site after I noticed the post by A-Snake that had the dollar figure of $150.  And seen the $200 fee and I about fell out of my chair. 

Again Thanks,
Rich 
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: Bob Gaines on July 12, 2020, 04:33:34 PM
I remember last year's Mecum memorabilia auction and hearing about the huge price their shipping store charged for shipping even on small items . Let alone the 20% buyers fee ,handling fee(not sure how much),and charge card fee. It all ads up. ::)
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: 69mach351w on July 12, 2020, 04:40:05 PM
I had a feeling these would be bidding for big bucks :o

https://www.mecum.com/lots/RM0520-429887/original-bronze-sculpture-daytona-coupe-by-artist-j-paul-nesse/

https://www.mecum.com/lots/RM0520-429985/original-bronze-sculpture-horses-for-courses-by-artist-j-paul-nesse/
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: 69mach351w on July 12, 2020, 07:49:13 PM
In the letter to John Barnes of all the items Bob Wyatt had for sale, it would've been awesome to know of and see photos of the items he had listed on the letter ;D

https://www.mecum.com/lots/RM0520-429989/1965-shelby-american-company-name-tag/

Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: QuickSilverShelby on July 12, 2020, 08:57:43 PM
Quote from: 6s1640 on July 12, 2020, 03:17:00 PM
Quote from: 69mach351w on July 12, 2020, 02:59:35 PM
I'm bidding on an item for $30 but Mecum didn't ask for the standard fee of $200.  Wow, I wasn't aware of a steep $200 fee to bid on a small item.
Looks like when you go to click a bid, they don't ask you for the "standard" fee of $200, which if they have, I would've never bid $30.

Hi 69mach351w,

The "OnTime" format is free to bid.  However there will be a 20% buyer's fee plus 3% for using the VISA, plus there will be a S&H fee to a third party as well.  The Mecum OnTime bidding is their first try at this.  I expect they will have learned from this experience and will make changes next time.

It is the internet bidding that requires the $200 registration fee, plus there is a 20% deposit required.  Then there is still the buyer's fees.  I think Mecum may have scared a lot of potential bidders away because of this.

Best of luck

Cory
There was probably a dozen items I would have bid on but when you throw a 20% buyers fee + 3% for a credit card + a S&H fee to Canada, I've pretty much lost interest in bidding on anything.  A winning bid on a $200 piece is gonna probably cost me over $300 US dollars (or over $400 Canadian dollars) once all is said and done to get it to me up North.  I like this stuff but I'm sitting out this auction.

If anyone has an original 68 Shelby manualthey want to part with, please let me know.

QSS
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: 69mach351w on July 12, 2020, 09:14:53 PM
Hey Doug, I sold you a 68 manual last June ???
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: QuickSilverShelby on July 12, 2020, 10:41:43 PM
Quote from: 69mach351w on July 12, 2020, 09:14:53 PM
Hey Doug, I sold you a 68 manual last June ???
You did indeed.  I am looking for the second printing of the 68 manual so that I can have both versions.  I really appreciate you selling me a first printing of the 68 manual.  I tried for years to get a decent one and you helped me out so I am grateful. 

There is a second printing on the Atzbach collection which is up for auction but I don't want to bid on it and pay $400 to $500 Canadian for it.  I'd love to add the second printing of the 68 manual to my collection but I've got my limits.   

QSS
Title: Re: The John Atzbach Collection - Online Catalog
Post by: 69mach351w on July 12, 2020, 10:54:53 PM
Gotcha 👍🏻