This may have been discussed before? I am curious if the color of a Hertz car effects the price range if all things are equal? I know Shelby built more Black cars than the rest?
Thanks
Are you the potential buyer in this equation?
Is the question if there were two Hertz cars and one was green and one was black should they be the same price? I would say yes..however
Color preference is very subjective and it does effect prices slightly
It depends on the colours that were available and how many were built, most of you agree that a black car if only a handful were made in black like the GT500 1967 are very desirable, it always depend on availability and people wanting it.
I have a little experience with this question...
With the Hertz's I'd say the color doesn't matter......
800 black Hertz's VS maybe 55 green ones..
Price wise no different.....
However, a nightmist blue '67 VS a lime gold is a much different equation..
Just my. 02
Bret
Personally, when I look at any car, if I do not like the color, I will not buy it. If the car owner like the color of his or her car, then it is worth "it". I cannot imagine looking at two identical cars, one, one color and another one some "one of one" color, that is so ugly that is the reason it is "one of one" and buying it because it is worth more......it is not a hobby for that ugly color buyer!
Quote from: capecodmustang.com on June 18, 2020, 08:30:47 AM
I have a little experience with this question...
With the Hertz's I'd say the color doesn't matter......
800 black Hertz's VS maybe 55 green ones..
Price wise no different.....
However, a nightmist blue '67 VS a lime gold is a much different equation..
Just my. 02
Bret
That is the BEST 02 of color cars right there on the 67 comparison! +10 on that!
Color does matter, just like size matters ... To both men and women ;D
I am partial to the 18 white with blue side stripes versions because I own one. They are the rarest except for the two prototypes. From a pure appeal point ,"to me" , black / gold is a beautiful combination.
If color mattered, I would not have bought my first 67 GT350 for $2250.00 "ALL COLORS MATTER" not just "BLACK 67 SHELBYS MATER"
How stupid would I have been not to buy my car because it was green? When you are talking "worth" its not a hobby. People used to ask me all the time, "whats it worth?" I used to say, with my dumb look, "Oh yeah" and give a stupid nod. Now I just say, "nothing, its too much fun."
Personally, I am looking for either a factory RED or a factory WHITE car, why because I like them, they certainly are not worth any more than the next color.
I've been fortunate to have owned a White, Green and Red Hertz cars. Each one was and is great and the only comment I get is that it's not a real Shelby because all Hertz cars were black and gold. We here all know the truth.
Comments and observations: The Green one received the "elegant", vote the White one "was missing the blue strips" and the Red on was considered the best looking and receives the most attention.
I personally like them all.
I personally would be ALOT more concerned with the overall integrity/authenticity of the car than the color.Color is subjective and (with rare exceptions)shouldn't make much of a difference in cars this rare. IMHO...
Quote from: Ducecpe on June 18, 2020, 12:20:25 AM
This may have been discussed before? I am curious if the color of a Hertz car effects the price range if all things are equal? I know Shelby built more Black cars than the rest?
Thanks
Sorry for all the noise, yes color matters for resale if that's your concern.
Thank you all for your thoughtful reply's. Yes I am in the market for a 66 Hertz car. I am considering a Green car and a Black car. Both cars are great cars. I have yet to personally inspect either car, so it may be a no brained after I look and drive them both. I used to own a Black n Gold car and prefer that color, but the Green car seems to be as original as the Black. So my question was just to help me in my decision making process.
Quote from: Ducecpe on June 19, 2020, 01:39:56 AM
Thank you all for your thoughtful reply's. Yes I am in the market for a 66 Hertz car. I am considering a Green car and a Black car. Both cars are great cars. I have yet to personally inspect either car, so it may be a no brained after I look and drive them both. I used to own a Black n Gold car and prefer that color, but the Green car seems to be as original as the Black. So my question was just to help me in my decision making process.
Don't forget White, Red and Blue...all look great with the gold stripes but the Black and Gold is what people know Hertz cars to be.
Personally mine is White with Gold and I like...just my 2 cents
Love it, you sound like me, nothing, one dollar, whatever one wants to say it is worth or is willing to pay for it
Quote from: 67 GT350 on June 18, 2020, 11:10:51 AM
People used to ask me all the time, "whats it worth?"
Now I just say, "nothing, its too much fun."
Thankfully PURPLE with gold stripes wasn't a Hertz color option in '66 ;)
Or a gold one with black stripes. ::)
Quote from: Ducecpe on June 19, 2020, 01:39:56 AM
Thank you all for your thoughtful reply's. Yes I am in the market for a 66 Hertz car. I am considering a Green car and a Black car. Both cars are great cars. I have yet to personally inspect either car, so it may be a no brained after I look and drive them both. I used to own a Black n Gold car and prefer that color, but the Green car seems to be as original as the Black. So my question was just to help me in my decision making process.
Black and gold is hard to beat, but as long as the histories are both good you wont get hurt.
Quote from: 427heaven on June 18, 2020, 08:57:57 AM
Color does matter, just like size matters ... To both men and women ;D
;)
I thought more would respond, of course color matters... Everything matters in life. 400 hp or 200 hp, 4 speed or auto, years, options, colors, it all matters even the proverbial CAUTION FAN STICKER matters to some. Its like that question the wifey asks... Does this dress make me look fat :-[ how do you answer that? It does, but you don't want to be a negative Nancy. So we answer ... You look great honey and move on down the line. No harm no foul. ;)
I have viewed the various color Hertz cars over the years with the black cars obviously the most plentiful. I have yet to see a green one. I dont know why, I assume they exist in numbers equal to the other non black cars. Whatever your choice give the car a good look over, quite a few of the rental cars have had many owners and been around the block a few times.
1966 Shelby G.T. 350 H Facts
The Hertz Car Rental Company ordered 1,000 Shelby GT350s from Shelby American on December 21st of 1965. An H was added to the GT350 to designate these as Hertz cars. Initially, all 1,000 examples were to be painted black with gold stripes. By the time production came to a close, 61 red, 50 blue, 50 green, and 50 white cars were delivered to the Hertz Company.
The Shelby American Automobile Club (SAAC) say there were five '66 Shelby G.T. 350 colors—Wimbledon White, Candyapple Red, Sapphire Blue, Dark Ivy Green Metallic, and Raven Black. White G.T. 350s had blue stripes. The rest had white stripes. The exception to this rule is the Hertz cars, which had gold stripes. And yes, some of the early Hertz cars were Wimbledon White, which had blue stripes. Le Mans stripes were factory applied in some instances for promotional purposes. The rest were performed by dealers.
Other facts attached
Thank you all again. Another question, did some Hertz cars never have the Le Mans strips? I have not seen many that way, but by now most have been repainted.
Quote from: Ducecpe on June 20, 2020, 02:01:43 PM
Thank you all again. Another question, did some Hertz cars never have the Le Mans strips? I have not seen many that way, but by now most have been repainted.
It’s my understanding that some RED cars came without gold strips, I’am not sure if any of the other colors came without stripes.
It's stripes with an e, not strips
DZ
Quote from: davez on June 20, 2020, 03:11:15 PM
It's stripes with an e, not strips DZ
Thanks for pointing this out, next time i'll reread before I press send.
My white with blue stripes ( 1 of 18) is a no roof stripe example others in this group were also stripe delete.
Quote from: 427heaven on June 20, 2020, 11:13:49 AM
I thought more would respond, of course color matters... Everything matters in life. 4
Agree, also think its changed over time
Early days, ex rentals were seen as a 2nd choice (so painting the black cars was a thing) - then it went the other way (mine is originally an Ivy green, was painted to black/gold in the 80s by a previous owner), to now where originality is seen as the most important
If/when I do a full resto, will take it back to Ivy purely because it is rarer/original (although I do admit, I find the black/gold combo hard to beat)
I owned one of the first non Hertz cars that was an automatic, back then at shows or races I could here the comments... NICE FAKE everyone knows SHELBYS were 4 speed cars. >:( I couldn't get past that, so out with the HIPO 289 and in with a full boogie BOSS 302 and the fun began! ;D
Left out the most important thing, also installed a top loader 4 speed, those were things that mattered to me.
I still get those comments because "all" Shelbys had roof stripes according to those experts that don't own one.
Quote from: gt350hr on June 23, 2020, 11:41:08 AM
I still get those comments because "all" Shelbys had roof stripes according to those experts that don't own one.
I'm confused by your statement. Are you saying that your car has LeMans stripes but not on the roof? Or are you saying that there are no Lemans stripes on the car at all?
Doug ,
Reply 26 no roof stripes. Lesser informed individuals are not aware that roof stripes were an option.
Quote from: gt350hr on June 23, 2020, 03:48:23 PM
Doug ,
Reply 26 no roof stripes. Lesser informed individuals are not aware that roof stripes were an option.
Well I'm in the less informed group on this one. Live and learn I suppose?
It's interesting a Mustang with stripes gets mistaken as a Shelby and a Shelby without stripes is mistaken as a Mustang.
Quote from: Doug C on June 23, 2020, 10:43:30 PM
It's interesting a Mustang with stripes gets mistaken as a Shelby and a Shelby without stripes is mistaken as a Mustang.
Oh, so true! 8)
Quote from: Doug C on June 23, 2020, 10:43:30 PM
It's interesting a Mustang with stripes gets mistaken as a Shelby and a Shelby without stripes is mistaken as a Mustang.
:o ::) ???
Thanks for the laugh!
Quote from: Doug C on June 23, 2020, 10:43:30 PM
It's interesting a Mustang with stripes gets mistaken as a Shelby and a Shelby without stripes is mistaken as a Mustang.
That was my point on reply 30. Because I do not have roof stripes I get all kinds of comments. One "helpful Shelby historian" asked why I didn't have roof stripes but had gone to so much trouble "to make one". I showed him the original invoice to Hertz and asked where the charge for the roof stripes was. His comment then was "Oh I've never seen an original invoice and wouldn't know where to look". This actually happened at the Santa Monica pier show.
Quote from: gt350hr on June 24, 2020, 12:40:20 PM
Quote from: Doug C on June 23, 2020, 10:43:30 PM
It's interesting a Mustang with stripes gets mistaken as a Shelby and a Shelby without stripes is mistaken as a Mustang.
... "Oh I've never seen an original invoice and wouldn't know where to look"
maybe, "Not much" of a historian? ???
Color does matter. When I was buying my first "expensive" collector car I really wanted a red car and I got my 68 GT500 convertible in red. Now 15 years later, when I but a cool car, I want anything but a red. In fact, I won't even consider a red car so color matters to me.
QSS
Car shows are FULL of Shelby historians!! Most of them own GT350 hardtops. You know the ones with the "Shelby drop" suspension and LeMans stripes.
I do know them... The ones that have SHELBY sun visor stickers across their windshields. ;D
Yup, you heard of McDonald's?
We consider those McTacky....simply horrendous
Quote from: 427heaven on June 22, 2020, 08:46:00 PM
Left out the most important thing, also installed a top loader 4 speed, those were things that mattered to me.
Florida is a breeding ground for them. ;)
So we hear, powerful !
Quote from: gt350hr on June 26, 2020, 10:41:06 AM
Florida is a breeding ground for them. ;)
Well at least that might be on a real car, not a 65 67 coupe. :-[
Quote from: gt350hr on June 25, 2020, 12:16:23 PM
Car shows are FULL of Shelby historians!!
Every summer I get a couple of "real Shelbys weren't painted yellow" comments. I don't answer anymore, just sit there. ::)
Imagine if you has a purple one ;D
your wish has been...GRANTED !... ;D
Quote from: Wedgeman on June 26, 2020, 02:27:14 PM
your wish has been...GRANTED !... ;D
Love it is that the one that sold for +/-$60k I'll take it