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The Cars => 1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 => Topic started by: Dan353 on June 21, 2020, 09:39:40 AM

Title: Tilt away column repair
Post by: Dan353 on June 21, 2020, 09:39:40 AM
Does anyone have a source that repairs or sells the parts for vacuum assembly that is installed under the dash for tilt away steering column on a 69 GT350.

Thanks.  Dan
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: kasearch@ix.netcom.com on June 22, 2020, 06:46:08 AM
Tony Augustine <6t8cougarguy@gmail.com> .  he did my column and has sources for parts
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 22, 2020, 01:32:54 PM
I have some 69 (black canister) and 68 (white cansister) vacuum /relay assemblies on the shelf if you hit a dead end. PM me if interested.
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: 430dragpack on June 25, 2020, 10:41:42 AM
What is the correct door pin switch that activates the relay look like and part number?  Is it another white plastic style with Autolite or have the metal face/mount tabs? If it's the metal style, what is the finish, phospahte or silver cad?  Also if it's the metal style, does it have a round plunger or more flat face plunger?
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: Krelboyne on June 25, 2020, 10:56:05 AM
C6OZ-13713-? is the number for the door jamb switch 1967-69. Black button and the metal surround.
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 25, 2020, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: 430dragpack on June 25, 2020, 10:41:42 AM
What is the correct door pin switch that activates the relay look like and part number?  Is it another white plastic style with Autolite or have the metal face/mount tabs? If it's the metal style, what is the finish, phospahte or silver cad?  Also if it's the metal style, does it have a round plunger or more flat face plunger?
Looks like this example I grabbed from ebay just now. The finish when new is typically brighter then the oxidized finish on the example. Plunger has rounded tip.There are no mfg markings that can be seen.
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: 430dragpack on June 25, 2020, 11:18:21 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on June 25, 2020, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: 430dragpack on June 25, 2020, 10:41:42 AM
What is the correct door pin switch that activates the relay look like and part number?  Is it another white plastic style with Autolite or have the metal face/mount tabs? If it's the metal style, what is the finish, phospahte or silver cad?  Also if it's the metal style, does it have a round plunger or more flat face plunger?
Looks like this example I grabbed from ebay just now. The finish when new is typically brighter then the oxidized finish on the example. Plunger has rounded tip.There are no mfg markings that can be seen.
That switch is the C7ZZ-13713-A, I confirmed it with him this morning and would work in place of the C6OZ-13713-A.  They look the same, function the same, the C7 has a slightly larger hole 29/32 vs. 7/8 for the C6.   That's why I was asking about this. Some of the C6's have the round plunger, some don't.  They both have the large female bullet connections as well.
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 25, 2020, 11:29:39 AM
Quote from: 430dragpack on June 25, 2020, 11:18:21 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on June 25, 2020, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: 430dragpack on June 25, 2020, 10:41:42 AM
What is the correct door pin switch that activates the relay look like and part number?  Is it another white plastic style with Autolite or have the metal face/mount tabs? If it's the metal style, what is the finish, phospahte or silver cad?  Also if it's the metal style, does it have a round plunger or more flat face plunger?
Looks like this example I grabbed from ebay just now. The finish when new is typically brighter then the oxidized finish on the example. Plunger has rounded tip.There are no mfg markings that can be seen.
That switch is the C7ZZ-13713-A, I confirmed it with him this morning and would work in place of the C6OZ-13713-A.  They look the same, function the same, the C7 has a slightly larger hole 29/32 vs. 7/8 for the C6.   That's why I was asking about this. Some of the C6's have the round plunger, some don't.  They both have the large female bullet connections as well.
I have not ever seen a original tilt switch that did not have the round plunger end.
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: JohnHouston on June 25, 2020, 01:34:03 PM
West Coast Cougar has a lot of this stuff.  Nice folks to deal with.

John
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: Krelboyne on June 25, 2020, 04:05:48 PM
Those are two different switches that get confused. The C7ZZ-13713-A switch has a longer plunger or button. This switch is mounted to the side of the tilt column on a 1967, not in the door jamb. Also has the squared edges on the metal ring.
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 25, 2020, 04:24:12 PM
Has anyone else seen the switch with the squared edges and longer plunger on 68'and 69's?
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: Corey Bowcutt on June 25, 2020, 05:18:16 PM
Quote from: JohnHouston on June 25, 2020, 01:34:03 PM
West Coast Cougar has a lot of this stuff.  Nice folks to deal with.

John

These are great folks to work with.  Four years ago I bought a complete under dash tilt steering module from them that works perfectly in my car.  I was talking with WCCC a few weeks ago and the guy they had there that serviced these is no longer with them.
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: Coralsnake on June 25, 2020, 05:34:11 PM
Black, round head, metal bezel
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 25, 2020, 05:35:27 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on June 25, 2020, 05:34:11 PM
Black, round head, metal bezel
What about length and if cut squared edges vs round?
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: Coralsnake on June 25, 2020, 05:41:01 PM
Two straight edges across from each other on sides of bezel
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 25, 2020, 05:47:50 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on June 25, 2020, 05:41:01 PM
Two straight edges across from each other on sides of bezel
That is what I typically see too.
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: Corey Bowcutt on June 25, 2020, 05:53:28 PM
Excellent!  That is what is on my car.
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: 430dragpack on June 25, 2020, 09:11:58 PM
Quote from: Krelboyne on June 25, 2020, 04:05:48 PM
Those are two different switches that get confused. The C7ZZ-13713-A switch has a longer plunger or button. This switch is mounted to the side of the tilt column on a 1967, not in the door jamb. Also has the squared edges on the metal ring.

I'm interested in knowing the length of the door jamb switch plunger, as well, on known original cars, because there is about a half dozen C7ZZ-A switches on eBay that have the short plunger, like the C6OZ-A switch. Even the C3AZ-B switch, which was replaced by the C7 switch appears to have a short plunger.
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: SChatman on July 21, 2020, 07:46:32 PM
My original has the black button with metal bezel on my 69 but the replacement from NPD  had two flat spots on the metal bezel, what's the right part number?
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: Smity on August 15, 2020, 04:04:14 AM
I'm looking for the entire swing away release mechanism and bracket that mounts under the dash for a 68 Shelby GT350.  Let me know if you have that for sale.  I have the same for a 69 that I could trade.
Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: 68blk500c on August 15, 2020, 12:04:38 PM
C6OZ-13713-A pictured.  Squared bezel is as factory 68-up in my experience.  Have seen factory switches that were not marked.  Service parts in both Autolite and Motorcraft.  Sometimes you open the box and it has a round bezel?  Maybe later service part or supplier variation?

I have one of the C7Z variety around here somewhere, but can't find it now.



Title: Re: Tilt away column repair
Post by: fastmerc on January 18, 2021, 07:22:10 PM
Greetings!
I just had a couple of 67 columns in for rebuild last month and found two "Autolite" (ink stamps on side!) switches that came in a potpourri of wiring and bits......

Upon reassembling the column, I found that the short "flat top" switch likely fits the little adjustment bracket for the rod engagement better than the longer (newer oval top) switches.....   This is the "ignition cutout" switch that won't let you start the car unless the steering wheel is pulled to the down and locked position.

I always figured that the longer version went in the door jamb as the distance from the door to the jamb could change more during assembly processes........

I believe that you can now only get one version in repop form, that fits back to the early Mustang days.  Getting them to fit the "interlock" position on the column could prove a tad bit of a challenge.....might have to elongate the holes in the bracket ever so much, or move the tab on the activating rod a hair...

I also found "short" round tops in rear doors of 4-door Galaxies etc when equipped with rear door light switches.

I had a 67 column in my 68 car, and because I could.....I just didn't connect the column switch harness up...... That way, I could tilt the column "away" while the car was running, by just pushing on the little lever tab with my toe....carefully!  I could then jump in and out of the car easier.......to do whatever....or start the car with the wheel up....

Cheers!
Steve
PS: I'm the other tilt rebuilder!