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Title: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bat-turn on July 31, 2020, 07:37:17 PM
Howdy,

Any advice on where to buy a white stripe kit for a 70 GT500?  I'm hoping to find a reflective type perhaps 3M original material???  Last time I bought one for my car was in 1978 and I thought its time to repaint the ole gal... One more time ;)

Thank you
Rick
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Shelbypat on July 31, 2020, 08:10:39 PM
Branda performance would be a nice supplier...
For how long do you own your car  Rick ?
Patrick
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bob Gaines on July 31, 2020, 09:38:22 PM
Howdy,

Any advice on where to buy a white stripe kit for a 70 GT500?  I'm hoping to find a reflective type perhaps 3M original material???  Last time I bought one for my car was in 1978 and I thought its time to repaint the ole gal... One more time ;)

Thank you
Rick
The reproduction stripe kit that Branda sells is reflective and the material is sourced from 3M last time I checked.  The ones I am familiar with were copied using NOS stripe kits. The new repro is a brighter shade of white. The original is more of a off white in comparison . Blue is another color that is a slightly different shade now compared to original. Most do not notice a difference. It is hard to tell unless you have it side by side with a original paint car or NOS stripe kit. I can tell because I have studied them extensively over the many decades and tried to have the correct shade made up unsuccessfully long ago.  Original stripe kits were rare 20 years ago even more so now. Unfortunately even NOS stripe kits are typically not viable to install because the special adhesive made into the stripe backing has dried up. Various people over the years have tried to have it made up . First off the off white tint was considered a "undesirable effect by 3M"  . From my understanding the amount of material that would have to be purchased to justify 3M to R+D a comparable tint stripe material again would be so enormous that a vendor could never hope to sell enough stripe kits over many years to even break even on the initial investment let alone make a profit . The stripe kits that Branda sells are pretty much the only game in town. Fortunately it is typically a superior product.  I did hear that someone was able to wrangle enough blue material to have a few stripe kits made up a few years ago.I have not seen them to render a opinion. I have not heard the same story with the white however.
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: TOBKOB on August 01, 2020, 09:47:56 AM
I have a set of Nos stripes plus several pieces of other sets but when I restored my car I went with a Branda's stripe kit due to the uncertainty of the adhesive. They are a good reproduction.  :)

TOB
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: 427hunter on August 01, 2020, 11:37:47 AM
Ditto on Branda, I compared the color of the new stripe to the door jam area of the original stripe and it was spot on.
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 01, 2020, 11:44:17 AM
Ditto on Branda, I compared the color of the new stripe to the door jam area of the original stripe and it was spot on.
Gold and black are spot on . Blue and white there is a slight difference with my judges hat on.
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: 69 GT350 Vert on August 01, 2020, 12:32:55 PM
Some stripe kits I've seen on cars at shows recently have a large gap/space between the letter T and the number 3 or 5 on the front fender.  I'm not sure if original stripe kits had this extra space or not, but I don't care for it.
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 01, 2020, 12:43:20 PM
Some stripe kits I've seen on cars at shows recently have a large gap/space between the letter T and the number 3 or 5 on the front fender.  I'm not sure if original stripe kits had this extra space or not, but I don't care for it.
I am not sure of what you have seen but here is a picture of a factory applied stripe and the space between the T and the 5 is as it should be.
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 01, 2020, 12:50:04 PM
Another
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: 427hunter on August 01, 2020, 02:22:11 PM
Ditto on Branda, I compared the color of the new stripe to the door jam area of the original stripe and it was spot on.
Gold and black are spot on . Blue and white there is a slight difference with my judges hat on.

I couldn't tell a difference between the two, but you are the judge.
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 01, 2020, 02:35:00 PM
Ditto on Branda, I compared the color of the new stripe to the door jam area of the original stripe and it was spot on.
Gold and black are spot on . Blue and white there is a slight difference with my judges hat on.

I couldn't tell a difference between the two, but you are the judge.
Hey it is your car and if you like it that is what counts most . :)
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Coralsnake on August 01, 2020, 03:01:39 PM
Bob, I havent seen the jade car before. Which dealership?
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 01, 2020, 03:09:06 PM
Bob, I havent seen the jade car before. Which dealership?
Bad Bobs Ford . ;)   Wishful thinking. Sorry I don't remember where I got it. The original off white stripe really compliments a black Jade color car IMHO compared to the brighter white repro.
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 01, 2020, 03:14:07 PM
The repro brighter white stripe complements some colors better then the original off white stripe. Royal Maroon for instance.
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Coralsnake on August 01, 2020, 03:26:55 PM
Bob Ford in Michigan

Love the BSW tires!

Thank you
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 01, 2020, 03:53:09 PM
Bob Ford in Michigan

Love the BSW tires!

Thank you
+1. Many Shelby enthusiasts don't realized that typically the 69 Shelby's got the E 70 15 BSW tires if produced before the suspension changeover of late March 69. I think it was only the Hertz cars that got them after.
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bill on August 01, 2020, 04:00:34 PM
Many Shelby enthusiasts don't realized that typically the 69 Shelby's got the E 70 15 BSW tires if produced before the suspension changeover of late March 69. I think it was only the Hertz cars that got them after.

Per Vinny, 1584 (March 31st build) came with both the KKX suspension update, and the E70X15 BSW tires. Of course it is the earliest known KKX suspension car, so that may have something to do with it.  ;)

Bill S.
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 01, 2020, 04:05:22 PM
Many Shelby enthusiasts don't realized that typically the 69 Shelby's got the E 70 15 BSW tires if produced before the suspension changeover of late March 69. I think it was only the Hertz cars that got them after.

Per Vinny, 1584 (March 31st build) came with both the KKX suspension update, and the E70X15 BSW tires. Of course it is the earliest known KKX suspension car, so that may have something to do with it.  ;)

Bill S.
If you notice I used the word "typically" to cover the occasional anomaly like you mention which is not typical .  ;)
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bill on August 01, 2020, 04:08:32 PM
Many Shelby enthusiasts don't realized that typically the 69 Shelby's got the E 70 15 BSW tires if produced before the suspension changeover of late March 69. I think it was only the Hertz cars that got them after.

Per Vinny, 1584 (March 31st build) came with both the KKX suspension update, and the E70X15 BSW tires. Of course it is the earliest known KKX suspension car, so that may have something to do with it.  ;)

Bill S.
If you notice I used the word "typically" to cover the occasional anomaly like you mention which is not typical .  ;)
;D
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: 69 GT350 Vert on August 01, 2020, 05:38:36 PM
Some stripe kits I've seen on cars at shows recently have a large gap/space between the letter T and the number 3 or 5 on the front fender.  I'm not sure if original stripe kits had this extra space or not, but I don't care for it.
I am not sure of what you have seen but here is a picture of a factory applied stripe and the space between the T and the 5 is as it should be.

This is what I was talking about with an excessive gap.  This photo was from SAAC36 and was a judged car.  I've seen a few like this and thought it looked odd.

Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Coralsnake on August 01, 2020, 05:48:30 PM
I agree that looks funny 😆
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 01, 2020, 06:24:23 PM
Some stripe kits I've seen on cars at shows recently have a large gap/space between the letter T and the number 3 or 5 on the front fender.  I'm not sure if original stripe kits had this extra space or not, but I don't care for it.
I am not sure of what you have seen but here is a picture of a factory applied stripe and the space between the T and the 5 is as it should be.

This is what I was talking about with an excessive gap.  This photo was from SAAC36 and was a judged car.  I've seen a few like this and thought it looked odd.
Yipe's !!!!
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: 427hunter on August 01, 2020, 07:02:14 PM
The branda white stripe is really very close - Bob are the ones you judged restored within the last few years?

Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: TOBKOB on August 01, 2020, 09:35:31 PM
Here is an example of Branda's white stripes on #2060...The spacing looks spot on to me compared to originals... :)

TOB
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 02, 2020, 01:02:44 AM
Here is an example of Branda's white stripes on #2060...The spacing looks spot on to me compared to originals... :)

TOB
Another color that the brighter white strips look better on the the original off white.
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: 69 GT350 Vert on August 02, 2020, 10:55:00 AM
I wish my car had white stripes.  I'm afraid the 40 year old lacquer paint would peel off with the stripes so I live with gold. 
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 02, 2020, 12:57:29 PM
I wish my car had white stripes.  I'm afraid the 40 year old lacquer paint would peel off with the stripes so I live with gold.
I agree and it is my personal opinion that the white looks better then the gold on the candy apple red. Ford/Shelby never offered the white stripe as a regular production option only gold. Of course if one wants to personalize your car and get a chance to then go for it just do it with the understanding that the factory didn't do it that way. I don't think that the factory always made the best choices IMHO but my 2 cents doesn't change the historical facts.
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bat-turn on August 03, 2020, 11:49:18 AM
Thank you all for jumping in on my question for a white stripe kit.  I was asked when I bought my car and it was in 1977 at 18 years old.  My first car was a 65 mustang (hooked) and there was a guy who said "Keep my cars running" and ill let you borrow them when you want....  Seriously he had 2 1970 GT500's a hard top and a convertible.  By buddy and I did just that, while still in High School we drove these care to school and played hooky in the fast lane. By the time we got to a ripe age of 19 the owner said these cars are for sale.  DONE! in 1979 I painted the car.  Its still nice but why not make it "wet" looking again ;)

As roommates renting this house you can see both of them parked in their stall..Circa 1978 lol I added a photo of Carroll sitting my car 1981, prior to it being popular Carroll asked me "can I sign you car?" While leaning over the car to sign the air cleaner he broke the fiberglass fan shroud. He looked at me and said "you know how to fix that right?" well worth fixing just for the story and all the photos of that day.

Ill pick up the new stripe kit, I agree a tad whiter will still pop on a Royal Maroon car
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Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: KerryBWhite on August 03, 2020, 12:00:47 PM
Great pictures
Do you dare tell the story about the 3 half barrels in the garage pic 8)
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bat-turn on August 03, 2020, 12:23:58 PM
Hahah you know that was not staged but does make a great conversation.  We had just had a party at the paint shop with a live band and went through 10 Kegs.  I'll never forget because we called the cops on our self to break up the event.  It blew up on us and the beer was gone in 2 hours.  I kid you not.

I just ordered the stripe kit YAY....
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 03, 2020, 12:31:12 PM
The branda white stripe is really very close - Bob are the ones you judged restored within the last few years?
The Branda  white stripes are typically more then close dimension wise . The white color is brighter when compared to original off white as long as they have been offered as far as I know including current offerings.
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 03, 2020, 12:36:34 PM
The branda white stripe is really very close - Bob are the ones you judged restored within the last few years?
If you compare the vintage picture in reply #8 and compare it to yours in reply #22 you can see a difference in the white shade. If they were sitting side by side at a car show it would be a very pronounce difference.
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bat-turn on August 03, 2020, 12:44:22 PM
Yes I agree, my maroon car (post 28 I think) has a strip kit that was original.  Bought in 79 the yellow tint actually matched the white soft top much closer.   
Title: Re: ^69/70 white stripe kit
Post by: Bat-turn on August 13, 2020, 02:40:14 PM
I did purchase a white kit from T Branda last week.  It is white for sure, the kit I put on the car in 1979 was 3M and from Ford back then.  It's off white or more yellow.  I think the white one will look good on the Royal Maroon paint, lets just keep that to our selves lol