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Title: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Fastback66 on August 03, 2020, 04:53:40 PM
I'm in the process of tearing down my 67 GT350. This car is currently Acapulco blue; the original color of the car is lime gold green. I'm really torn about picking the paint color....not a fan of lime gold, I really like Nightmist Blue.

Do you think it would be a huge mistake to not go back to the original color? I love originality but not Lime Gold.  This car will never be a museum piece while I own it but I do want it to be at least a period correct driver that I enjoy looking at and driving. The car is missing a lot of original pieces and has/will have sheet metal replaced...the level or lack of originality makes me feel less inclined to worry about going back to original paint color.

I know some will say... my car, my decision but for discussion  what are some opinions?
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbydoug on August 03, 2020, 05:10:30 PM
I'm in the process of tearing down my 67 GT350. This car is currently Acapulco blue; the original color of the car is lime gold green. I'm really torn about picking the paint color....not a fan of lime gold, I really like Nightmist Blue.

Do you think it would be a huge mistake to not go back to the original color? I love originality but not Lime Gold.  This car will never be a museum piece while I own it but I do want it to be at least a period correct driver that I enjoy looking at and driving. The car is missing a lot of original pieces and has/will have sheet metal replaced...the level or lack of originality makes me feel less inclined to worry about going back to original paint color.

I know some will say... my car, my decision but for discussion  what are some opinions?

I've seen a couple of cars in lime repainted in two stage  They are remarkably pretty showing lots of life in the paint, nice depth and sparkling metallic.

I'd suggest that you go through the efforts of view one of those cars personally before you dismiss the Lime. Maybe a club member near you can help you find something locally?



a lot of the issue with that color is simply that the life in it died and it's pretty flat. That's really typical of the original acrylic enamel and even the Nighmist Blue will die on you in the original system,

If you look around at new cars you might notice very similar colors? It turns out that it is a very contemporary color these days too.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Fastback66 on August 03, 2020, 05:18:52 PM
Funny thing is that lime gold was extremely popular in the 60's but you don't see it too often these days. I've seen a couple cars with a fresh lime gold color...I admit I don't hate it, I think I could even acquire a taste for it and even like it a little....but I love Nightmist. 
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: JD on August 03, 2020, 05:21:06 PM
I've seen a couple of cars in lime repainted in two stage  They are remarkably pretty showing lots of life in the paint, nice depth and sparkling metallic.

I'd suggest that you go through the efforts of view one of those cars personally before you dismiss the Lime. Maybe a club member near you can help you find something locally?

a lot of the issue with that color is simply that the life in it died and it's pretty flat. That's really typical of the original acrylic enamel and even the Nighmist Blue will die on you in the original system,

If you look around at new cars you might notice very similar colors? It turns out that it is a very contemporary color these days too.

+1, I too have been impressed - look at a new 2-stage version before you go to the dark blue just to be sure...
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbydoug on August 03, 2020, 05:27:15 PM
Funny thing is that lime gold was extremely popular in the 60's but you don't see it too often these days. I've seen a couple cars with a fresh lime gold color...I admit I don't hate it, I think I could even acquire a taste for it and even like it a little....but I live Nightmist.

Seemingly back then every 67 AND 68 was lime? If I remember correctly, according to the stats in the Registry, Red was the most common? In all these years I think I have seen one original red car.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Coralsnake on August 03, 2020, 05:30:48 PM
Lime Green was actually the fourth most popular color for 1968 Shelbys, behind red, blue and Dark Green.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: capecodmustang.com on August 03, 2020, 05:31:16 PM
1)....You can paint it anything you want.  It's yours and don't worry about the Shelby Police reminding you
it's a color change.

2)....There's nothing wrong with Lime Gold especially with no Lemans and four Magstars.....IMO...
Here's a GT 500 with Ten Spokes......

I think it looks pretty good...


Just my .02

Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: JD on August 03, 2020, 05:34:48 PM
25% (1 of 4) of the '67 Shelby's were Lime Gold!
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 557 on August 03, 2020, 05:46:59 PM
It will hurt you on resale if you switch,but if it’s your “forever” car and you don’t intend to show it at a high level,go nuts!After all(presumably),it will primarily be you looking out over that (whatever color)hood while  the car makes“pretty noises”....My 67 is the “wrong”color and I don’t lose much sleep over it...
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Fastback66 on August 03, 2020, 05:50:24 PM
I agree..Lime gold isn't a bad color, kind of looks good with modern paint and a lot of clear. Funny, I've been watching videos of Jim Morrison driving his Shelby for motivation. At the beginning of this video is a car in a color similar to Lime Gold passing his Nightmist Blue Shelby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDAmweqwMSM
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 03, 2020, 05:52:37 PM
Funny thing is that lime gold was extremely popular in the 60's but you don't see it too often these days. I've seen a couple cars with a fresh lime gold color...I admit I don't hate it, I think I could even acquire a taste for it and even like it a little....but I live Nightmist.

Seemingly back then every 67 AND 68 was lime? If I remember correctly, according to the stats in the Registry, Red was the most common? In all these years I think I have seen one original red car.
Most of the red 67's I come across where original Lime Gold.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Fastback66 on August 03, 2020, 05:53:52 PM
I agree..Lime gold isn't a bad color, kind of looks good with modern paint and a lot of clear. Funny, I've been watching videos of Jim Morrison driving his Shelby for motivation. At the beginning of this video is a car in a color similar to Lime Gold passing his Nightmist Blue Shelby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDAmweqwMSM

Interesting to note...there was a thread on this site mentioning the difference in value of a Lime Gold car vice a blue or red car and that the difference was significant...so maybe in the end it's a wash. Current mindset is that it's my forever car.... but you never know.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 03, 2020, 05:56:07 PM
I'm in the process of tearing down my 67 GT350. This car is currently Acapulco blue; the original color of the car is lime gold green. I'm really torn about picking the paint color....not a fan of lime gold, I really like Nightmist Blue.

Do you think it would be a huge mistake to not go back to the original color? I love originality but not Lime Gold.  This car will never be a museum piece while I own it but I do want it to be at least a period correct driver that I enjoy looking at and driving. The car is missing a lot of original pieces and has/will have sheet metal replaced...the level or lack of originality makes me feel less inclined to worry about going back to original paint color.

I know some will say... my car, my decision but for discussion  what are some opinions?

I've seen a couple of cars in lime repainted in two stage  They are remarkably pretty showing lots of life in the paint, nice depth and sparkling metallic.

I'd suggest that you go through the efforts of view one of those cars personally before you dismiss the Lime. Maybe a club member near you can help you find something locally?



a lot of the issue with that color is simply that the life in it died and it's pretty flat. That's really typical of the original acrylic enamel and even the Nighmist Blue will die on you in the original system,

If you look around at new cars you might notice very similar colors? It turns out that it is a very contemporary color these days too.
+1 . I think lime gold looks good when it is fresh. If you are worried about value then a color change is not the best choice . If it is a forever car with no concern about a resale color change hit then do what makes you happy.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: propayne on August 03, 2020, 07:00:12 PM
Maybe it's just because I notice it, but there are more than a few modern auto manufacturers that offer a color that is very similar to Lime Gold.

Colors go in and out of fashion. Seems to me that greens, along with bright, primary colors were big in the '60s, browns and golds in the '70s, pastels and teals (think Miami Vice) in the '80s, silver and beige in the '90s...etc.

My understanding is that a color change generally hurts the value some.

- Phillip
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Chris Thauberger on August 03, 2020, 08:07:12 PM
I’m surprised Keith hasn’t chimed in on this yet, if I recall correctly his blue car was originally lime green. Maybe I’m wrong :P
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Coralsnake on August 03, 2020, 08:58:54 PM
Come on, we know who the others are. Green cars now painted blue.

Fess up!

🤪
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 03, 2020, 09:07:22 PM
You ole pot stirrers.  ::)
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: FL SAAC on August 03, 2020, 09:12:17 PM
By reading your notes it's an easy decision

Green or blue?

Want original ? go green

Want to be happy ? go blue
7413


I'm in the process of tearing down my 67 GT350. This car is currently Acapulco blue; the original color of the car is lime gold green. I'm really torn about picking the paint color....not a fan of lime gold, I really like Nightmist Blue.

Do you think it would be a huge mistake to not go back to the original color? I love originality but not Lime Gold.  This car will never be a museum piece while I own it but I do want it to be at least a period correct driver that I enjoy looking at and driving. The car is missing a lot of original pieces and has/will have sheet metal replaced...the level or lack of originality makes me feel less inclined to worry about going back to original paint color.

I know some will say... my car, my decision but for discussion  what are some opinions?
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: rbarkley on August 03, 2020, 09:55:45 PM
Go with the blue and be happy. If you ever sell it, the new owner can proudly take it back to the original color. Of course, I am partial to Nightmist blue!
Ron
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on August 03, 2020, 11:28:32 PM
Let's start with I hate lime gold. I had a 68 XR7 Cougar that color and never liked it.
If you are going to restore your car to be a show/garage queen then by all means go lime gold.
If you are going to drive and show your car casually then paint it the color you like.
Don't worry about resale. The next buyer will also probably restore it to a higher level so it'll need to be painted anyway.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: owenkelley on August 03, 2020, 11:55:59 PM
I like lime Gold on '68's because they have a lot of chrome to brighten the car up. In my opinion Lime Gold does not look nearly as good on '67's because they are more basic looking cars. There are so many great colors out there today, go with a color that you are going to be happy looking at, especially if your intention is to keep the car a long time. Hell, paint it Gulfstream Aqua! The most beautiful color of all Shelby colors and it would probably be the only one!
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: JWH on August 04, 2020, 12:03:01 AM
To me, it depends when you plan to sell it. If this is a fix-and-flip project, then I would stick with the Lime no question. If this is going to be a car you keep for 15, 20, 30 years, then paint it Nightmist. OwenKelley makes a great point, in 15 years, the next person who buys the car will need to repaint it anyway.  Full disclosure, I looked for years to find my Nightmist/parchment '67, personally my very favorite colors. Good luck with you decision.
Jeff
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: S7MS427 on August 04, 2020, 12:23:27 AM
My car is a color change from Lime Gold to Nightmist Blue.  I swear that if it had originally been any other color I'd have gone with that.  But I liked blue since I first saw it on a Cobra.  I decided then and there that blue with white stripes was for me and that a '67 G.T.500 would be my forever car.  Now almost 43 years later, I feel the same way.  So paint the car Nightmist and be happy.  I know I've never regretted my choice.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 2112 on August 04, 2020, 01:52:46 AM

Interesting to note...there was a thread on this site mentioning the difference in value of a Lime Gold car vice a blue or red car and that the difference was significant...so maybe in the end it's a wash. Current mindset is that it's my forever car.... but you never know.

Solid logic
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 68GT350roadracer on August 04, 2020, 07:02:16 AM
If I was buying I would pay more if it was blue, even if it was green originally. Would keep me from having to pay to repaint.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Chris Thauberger on August 04, 2020, 07:59:34 AM
What if it was originally a red car, or a white car, would the conversation be the same?
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: texas swede on August 04, 2020, 08:01:48 AM
I bought #1317, Lime Green in 1977 and repainted it red with white Le Mans stripes in 1978.
Was happy with the change for many years but regretted it later on. Today I would keep it the original color.
Texas Swede
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 67 GT350 on August 04, 2020, 08:21:26 AM
I am guilty of a color change on my first Shelby, (Lime Gold), I changed it to Alcapco Blue. Today, I just would not buy a car unless it was a color on my list. Today I have a Moss Green car and it has a nice sporty look, although not my color oc choice. I guess what I dont care for with this car is it is a auto with air, Looking back I would rather neither of those options.
I did have a factory Nightmist Blue Shelby that I was thinking of buying back a few years ago, but the owner would not return any calls or emails from me, being that I know the car well, I wanted to know a few things before I bid on it, so I passed. That color, along with white, and red, would be my choices.
I know the Shelby police are out there and they can be very nasty, I have heard them talking even at local cars shows, when they do not like something, they let everyone at that show know about it. If you are doing your own thing, like I do, meaning, drive it, look at it, maybe going to a get-together with car people who just don't care or know, I think it is cool. Just enjoy it the way you want it. What is value anyway? Or should the question be, What is being happy to own a car that others cannot or don't care about these days?
My feelings are, be done with that, enjoy it!
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Greg on August 04, 2020, 08:38:31 AM
Like others have said, it's your car and you should do what you want. 

Well....That sounds all good but be prepared to get told, "that's not the original color", "why would you do that to a Shelby, and hurt its value" ...etc....".   You will also be frustrated that you spent good money on a non original color if you do ever decide to take it to the next level not to mention a resale value hit (none of us know what tomorrow will bring even if you intend to keep it till you push up daisies).  Remember the cost of painting is in preparation and materials not the labor to actually lay the paint. 

What I would do, paint it the original color and if I didn't like it, sale or trade it for one that I did.  The reason, paint is expensive and any reputable paint and body person on a perfect car, no metal repairs required will charge you at least $8-10K. 

If your buddy down the street is going to paint it for a case of beer, then go for any color you want because the paint will come off in a few years anyway.   My two cents.....
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Coralsnake on August 04, 2020, 08:56:47 AM
Quote
What if it was originally a red car, or a white car, would the conversation be the same?

I actually know of a red 1968 KR that was changed to Lime Green.

Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbyhertz66 on August 04, 2020, 09:16:18 AM
I see nothing wrong with a color change if you don't like the original
color regardless of what it was , although I would stick with a color
that was originally available for Shelby's in 1967.  My 67 was originally
lime gold as well when I bought it in the color of Brittany blue.  It was done
well and completely along with being supposedly a more desirable color.
Unless a spectator at a car show has a registry with them they would never know.
I believe the value may be higher in this case than if it was original.
It's your car do what you like and just take the point deduction and the
next owner can change it back if they like.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Coralsnake on August 04, 2020, 09:40:21 AM
If you change the color, you are essentially eliminating yourself from having the car successfully compete in a concours venue.

Since 99% of people will never enter a concours event, its not really a consideration.

Paint the car the color you like. Thats my advice. The change in value is not going to be significant.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 427heaven on August 04, 2020, 10:03:28 AM
I guess it depends what your intentions are for the short and long terms. Do YOU like the look of NIGHTMIST better then lime green, do you like OTHERS to compliment YOUR CAR at gatherings, do you wish to get maximum dollars when you do sell it? If you answered yes to any or all of those questions then the answer is clear on what to do. I have bought and sold more Mustangs then the average joe, and can say from my perspective a color change has not hurt the value of any of those cars, only enhanced its value. We all like something different and there are no right or wrong answers here, just ask yourself what are you drawn towards. Cars are like woman I guess thats why thru time they seem to be given womens names. If looking at an adult mag does one look for the sleek sexy super model or do we look at a 4x model that loves eating family sized pizzas. and gallons of ice cream while posing? Point being there is a person willing to buy any car with any color or options. Just depends on what makes you happy with your ride. GOOD LUCK on your paint selection.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Chris Thauberger on August 04, 2020, 10:31:45 AM
I don’t know why there are so many references towards Concours and losing points. That’s not really the question here. As Coralsnake said 99% of people would not enter concours they just don’t have the stomach for it. Paint it whatever colour you like, hell Chase Foxes with it if you like who cares. It’s your car.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Coralsnake on August 04, 2020, 10:51:16 AM
I think the majority of the forum participants appreciate a car that is “correct”.

Too often those answering questions interpret that as “concours” correct

There is a big difference.

I can answer most any concours question, but that should not be the sole focus of the forum in my honest opinion.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: capecodmustang.com on August 04, 2020, 10:52:25 AM
I don’t know why there are so many references towards Concours and losing points. That’s not really the question here. As Corelsnake said 99% of people would not enter concours they just don’t have the stomach for it. Paint it whatever colour you like, hell Chase Fox’s with it if you like who cares. It’s your car.

Well said.......
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 2112 on August 04, 2020, 11:03:14 AM
If I was buying I would pay more if it was blue, even if it was green originally. Would keep me from having to pay to repaint.

+1 And I think Fresh Lime Gold is nice.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 2112 on August 04, 2020, 11:06:17 AM


What I would do, paint it the original color and if I didn't like it, sale or trade it for one that I did.  The reason, paint is expensive and any reputable paint and body person on a perfect car, no metal repairs required will charge you at least $8-10K

In Guatemala?

In my Neigborhood, that STARTS at $30,000-$35,000
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: KR Convertible on August 04, 2020, 11:18:00 AM
Should we start talking about LeMans stripes now?   ;)
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbydoug on August 04, 2020, 11:21:58 AM
If you change the color, you are essentially eliminating yourself from having the car successfully compete in a concours venue.

Since 99% of people will never enter a concours event, its not really a consideration.

Paint the car the color you like. Thats my advice. The change in value is not going to be significant.

The old afvice on a color change was that the most it could devalue the car would be the cost of repainting it. How much is that these days?
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Chris Thauberger on August 04, 2020, 11:26:07 AM


What I would do, paint it the original color and if I didn't like it, sale or trade it for one that I did.  The reason, paint is expensive and any reputable paint and body person on a perfect car, no metal repairs required will charge you at least $8-10K

In Guatemala?

In my Neigborhood, that STARTS at $30,000-$35,000



+1

Maybe he is referring to Earl Scheib.  ;D

Once again its all about perception. 10,000.00 paint job looks nice until you park beside the guy with the 40,000.00 paint job. ;)

To each his own. (https://emoticons.datahamster.com/hobby_horse.gif)
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbydoug on August 04, 2020, 11:34:15 AM
I advise it's $40,000 for the results that you want or EXP. That kind of bursts the bubble of the Mustang Coupe guys.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Chris Thauberger on August 04, 2020, 11:37:06 AM
I think the majority of the forum participants appreciate a car that is “correct”.

Too often those answering questions interpret that as “concours” correct

There is a big difference.

I can answer most any concours question, but that should not be the sole focus of the forum in my honest opinion.

I have been around long enough to know who the concours people are on the forum, the rest are just swinging at a piñata in an effort to release the contents  ;)
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbydoug on August 04, 2020, 11:45:32 AM
I think the majority of the forum participants appreciate a car that is “correct”.

Too often those answering questions interpret that as “concours” correct

There is a big difference.

I can answer most any concours question, but that should not be the sole focus of the forum in my honest opinion.

I have been around long enough to know who the concours people are on the forum, the rest are just swinging at a piñata in an effort to release the contents  ;)

They are afraid to not be correct. The Shelby Secret Police are always lurking somewhere in the shadows.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 67 GT350 on August 04, 2020, 12:12:09 PM
Just a follow up to my car that was Lime Green, Thats what I call it, that I painted blue, that car is now RED.

I have found over the years when you are buying, "This is a better color than the original, thus that is why the price is higher." When you are selling that same car, "That car is the wrong color, that is why I am offering you this much less."

I have always said, "Whatever you got is great, and whatever I got is shit."
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 04, 2020, 12:26:57 PM
I have color changed a lot of cars over the years. Only 2 Shelbys. a 70 Grabber blue drag pack FB to CA red. Market bore that it did not hurt the value of it when sold. The last one was a 68 GT350 FB from highland green to black with red stripes. Market bore I got MORE for it than if it was green. The enjoyment I got out of my 68 being black/red was priceless and enjoyed the car for years before selling it. Do it in blue and enjoy it. Gary
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: FL SAAC on August 04, 2020, 01:03:25 PM
Mas Uno !

Buenas tardes Gary,

Su sugerencia es ideal.

Ellos siguen pegandole hal caballo muerto.

Muchas gracias por su opinion

I have color changed a lot of cars over the years. Only 2 Shelbys. a 70 Grabber blue drag pack FB to CA red. Market bore that it did not hurt the value of it when sold. The last one was a 68 GT350 FB from highland green to black with red stripes. Market bore I got MORE for it than if it was green. The enjoyment I got out of my 68 being black/red was priceless and enjoyed the car for years before selling it. Do it in blue and enjoy it. Gary
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Bigblock on August 04, 2020, 01:45:36 PM
The local Ford dealer in the 60s/70s would repaint any Mustang/Cougar taken in on trade that was Lime Gold or 'shades' of yellow to Rangoon/Poppy Red, or "Resale Red'.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 04, 2020, 02:19:36 PM
Back in the mid 2000s when you could actually contact a bidder or buyer of an item on Ebay I did my own survey on color changed Shelbys. Of course those bidding or buying didn't care about originality. Enough of them sold for me to justify color changing my 68. Bill Collins once said on this forum there are 3 types of buyers.....
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Bossbill on August 04, 2020, 02:42:18 PM
Anyone have a PPG BC (DMD) formula they wish to share? I've called upon a few experts here for a paint code but they shoot with extremely uncommon paint systems that have no correlation to the more common systems -- like PPG -- available here.
I had my local shop do a straight up Lime Gold in PPG 2054 in today's paint and the match is terrible. Just because PPG says today's Yellow is the same as 50 year Yellow -- is it truly the same same color? Uh, no.

I had a camera color match done and sprayed it out and looks good, but I need to compare it to original cars to see how well it matches. So far, little luck getting back to the original car we used with the camera and even if I find it I wouldn't know what to do with the color to make it match better (if indeed it's off).

You can PM me with your cumulative PPG mix if you don't want it published.
I can share mine if others are interested.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Coralsnake on August 04, 2020, 02:51:25 PM
You might try Tim Lea. Pretty sure he navigated the Lime Green waters. He is TLEA on the forum.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Greg on August 04, 2020, 02:57:10 PM
Back in the mid 2000s when you could actually contact a bidder or buyer of an item on Ebay I did my own survey on color changed Shelbys. Of course those bidding or buying didn't care about originality. Enough of them sold for me to justify color changing my 68. Bill Collins once said on this forum there are 3 types of buyers.....

I hear you but that was 15 - 20 years ago, and the prices are not the same.  When these cars went 6 figures the ball game changed. 
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Bossbill on August 04, 2020, 03:53:40 PM
You might try Tim Lea. Pretty sure he navigated the Lime Green waters. He is TLEA on the forum.

Tim  was nice enough to send me his color mix. However, he used an 'AksoNobel Sikkens Lesonal' mix and there is no one around in my state that carries this system.
You can't really use other vendor's color mixes as they don't translate well.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: QuickSilverShelby on August 04, 2020, 11:06:10 PM
Mas Uno !

Buenas tardes Gary,

Su sugerencia es ideal.

Ellos siguen pegandole hal caballo muerto.

Muchas gracias por su opinion

I need some dudes up here who speak American goddamn it!

QSS
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: QuickSilverShelby on August 04, 2020, 11:07:28 PM
You have to paint your car Blue.  If you don't, you will always have doubts.  Paint it Blue.

QSS
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: The Going Thing on August 04, 2020, 11:17:09 PM
I’m surprised Keith hasn’t chimed in on this yet, if I recall correctly his blue car was originally lime green. Maybe I’m wrong :P
Yes, My Shelby was Slime Green.  I went Acapulco two stage with about six coats of clear. I am constantly complemented on how beautiful it is. I personally don't care for it and Mr. Gains will tell you it's the most common color that people change. 
It's up to you, but listening to the comments about the Lime Gold by the spectators I don't hear many posiives.
If of course absolute  originality is what you desire, by all means paint it what it was.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 557 on August 04, 2020, 11:59:50 PM
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What if it was originally a red car, or a white car, would the conversation be the same?

I actually know of a red 1968 KR that was changed to Lime Green.
.  Motivation?
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: The Going Thing on August 05, 2020, 12:31:55 AM
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What if it was originally a red car, or a white car, would the conversation be the same?

I actually know of a red 1968 KR that was changed to Lime Green.
.  Motivation?

Yes. They're stuck in the 60s when people had Avacado appliances.. ;D
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Likely, It's something they loved in their youth and want to relive it.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 68krrrr on August 05, 2020, 02:00:34 AM
Wow lots of opinions here as a previous owner of a lime green KR & a current owner of a Nightmist blue 67 ,i can say the lime green really grew on me & i got tons of compliments on it, as long as its a fresh pant job ,a real 60's vintage color .I sought out a Nightmist/Parchment for my 67 it took so long for one to come to market i ended up settling for an auto ,in the end but really love the fact that it an original color & wouldn't have it another way ,good luck & either way your gonna  love it i'm guessing.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Corey Bowcutt on August 05, 2020, 08:06:48 AM
I have a lime gold 68 and without fail when I take my car out which is frequently I get compliments on the color.  I can not tell you how many times I have heard I love that color. Now days in the sea of black, silver and white cars it is just refreshing to see something different. I am far from a concourse guy but it is in my bones to make/keep my car as original as possible. I love the color and would never change.
Corey
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: FL SAAC on August 05, 2020, 08:22:44 AM
Buenos dias or good morning QSS

No need to fret for being linguistically challenged.  We can assist you by recommending you these fine Americans that are also well versed in Spanish.

Adios

Back to the topic at hand green vs blue....blue

Mas Uno !

Buenas tardes Gary,

Su sugerencia es ideal.

Ellos siguen pegandole hal caballo muerto.

Muchas gracias por su opinion

I need some dudes up here who speak American goddamn it!

QSS
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 67 GT350 on August 05, 2020, 08:36:40 AM
I had a Escort Wagon that was painted yellow, due to it was a company car, it was factory red. I had a Goldenrod Yellow 55 T-Bird, so I thought the wagon was cool! LOL
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbyhertz66 on August 05, 2020, 08:58:54 AM
Like they say on T.V. the car doesn't know what color it was.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: FL SAAC on August 05, 2020, 09:28:21 AM
+ 1 LMAO

Like they say on T.V. the car doesn't know what color it was.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 2112 on August 05, 2020, 09:49:08 AM
It is ironic that in the big dollar world of vintage Ferrari and Lamborghini, as long as the color was a OEM period correct color, changes are not as frowned upon.

Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: FL SAAC on August 05, 2020, 10:01:02 AM
Correct, playing with the big boys in the major leagues there !

We are the minor leagues thinking we are in with them boys....neva, eva!

Areverderci  !

Disclosure only the true 1 of 1s qualify

It is ironic that in the big dollar world of vintage Ferrari and Lamborghini, as long as the color was a OEM period correct color, changes are not as frowned upon.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 05, 2020, 01:13:34 PM
Back in the mid 2000s when you could actually contact a bidder or buyer of an item on Ebay I did my own survey on color changed Shelbys. Of course those bidding or buying didn't care about originality. Enough of them sold for me to justify color changing my 68. Bill Collins once said on this forum there are 3 types of buyers.....

I hear you but that was 15 - 20 years ago, and the prices are not the same.  When these cars went 6 figures the ball game changed.
Sold my 68 in 2013 and after Rick Nash got a 130K(143K buyers premium) for a triple gold winning lime gold  68 GT350 FB so, no, the prices have not changed on 68 GT350s since I sold mine in 2013.....Of course my car was NOT a triple gold and the whole drive train was NOT numbers matching and I knew the market of original color cars. Mine brought MORE than others selling at the time in Hgreen when comparing apples to apples(non concours non original drivetrain). In 30 years of color changing Mustangs(first in 79 and last in 2008) not one was ever hurt value wise when I sold it but to be clear there are some cars I would NEVER color change but the OP stated his intentions for his car and to me that means "go ahead and color change it".  And I do do my cars with an "end monetary result" in mind. Gary
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 05, 2020, 01:21:48 PM
Buenos dias or good morning QSS

No need to fret for being linguistically challenged.  We can assist you by recommending you these fine Americans that are also well versed in Spanish.

Adios

Back to the topic at hand green vs blue....blue

Mas Uno !

Buenas tardes Gary,

Su sugerencia es ideal.

Ellos siguen pegandole hal caballo muerto.

Muchas gracias por su opinion

I need some dudes up here who speak American goddamn it!

QSS
LOL I "knew" what you said thanks to Google. Its cool tool to use. Heck I even use it to confirm "stories". LOL https://www.google.com/search?q=translation&rlz=1C1VFKB_enUS749US749&oq=translation&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l6.2959j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: QuickSilverShelby on August 05, 2020, 10:41:58 PM
LOL I "knew" what you said thanks to Google. Its cool tool to use. Heck I even use it to confirm "stories". LOL https://www.google.com/search?q=translation&rlz=1C1VFKB_enUS749US749&oq=translation&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l6.2959j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
I gotta use Google translate more often.  Seeing how I am Linguistically challenged.

QSS
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: QuickSilverShelby on August 05, 2020, 11:00:15 PM
LOL I "knew" what you said thanks to Google. Its cool tool to use. Heck I even use it to confirm "stories". LOL https://www.google.com/search?q=translation&rlz=1C1VFKB_enUS749US749&oq=translation&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l6.2959j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
I gotta use Google translate more often.  Seeing how I am Linguistically challenged.

QSS
Actually I am not linguistically challenged as some would suggest.  The correct inference is that I am not multi lingual OR I am multi lingual challenged. 

Now, as I previously requested, "I need some dudes up here who speak American goddamn it!".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77mTIO2pD-Y

QSS
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: QuickSilverShelby on August 05, 2020, 11:02:16 PM
Paint your car Blue.  Don't go with Slime Green, you'll always regret it.

QSS
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: The Going Thing on August 05, 2020, 11:29:51 PM
Paint your car Blue.  Don't go with Slime Green, you'll always regret it.

QSS

My sentiments exactly.  However, I am trying not to stir the pot too much. The old people get upset if they miss their 1630 dinner hour at Denny's.  They have to pay full price when they're late.  ;D
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: FL SAAC on August 06, 2020, 04:52:35 AM


Dats funeee meng!

LOL I "knew" what you said thanks to Google. Its cool tool to use. Heck I even use it to confirm "stories". LOL https://www.google.com/search?q=translation&rlz=1C1VFKB_enUS749US749&oq=translation&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l6.2959j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
I gotta use Google translate more often.  Seeing how I am Linguistically challenged.

QSS
Actually I am not linguistically challenged as some would suggest.  The correct inference is that I am not multi lingual OR I am multi lingual challenged. 

Now, as I previously requested, "I need some dudes up here who speak American goddamn it!".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77mTIO2pD-Y

QSS
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Greg on August 06, 2020, 07:30:39 AM
Back in the mid 2000s when you could actually contact a bidder or buyer of an item on Ebay I did my own survey on color changed Shelbys. Of course those bidding or buying didn't care about originality. Enough of them sold for me to justify color changing my 68. Bill Collins once said on this forum there are 3 types of buyers.....

I hear you but that was 15 - 20 years ago, and the prices are not the same.  When these cars went 6 figures the ball game changed.
Sold my 68 in 2013 and after Rick Nash got a 130K(143K buyers premium) for a triple gold winning lime gold  68 GT350 FB so, no, the prices have not changed on 68 GT350s since I sold mine in 2013.....Of course my car was NOT a triple gold and the whole drive train was NOT numbers matching and I knew the market of original color cars. Mine brought MORE than others selling at the time in Hgreen when comparing apples to apples(non concours non original drivetrain). In 30 years of color changing Mustangs(first in 79 and last in 2008) not one was ever hurt value wise when I sold it but to be clear there are some cars I would NEVER color change but the OP stated his intentions for his car and to me that means "go ahead and color change it".  And I do do my cars with an "end monetary result" in mind. Gary

This is a great discussion.  I personally believe changing the color is one of the greatest mistakes that a person can make when restoring a car and expecting a monetary gain.  I also believe, it's your car, it's your money do what you want.

Gary, you indicated the Rick Nash car had a triple gold, would it have done this with a color change?  If you have a standard 68 FB with a 302, go for it as the color won't matter to most in that price range.  Change a Shelby and you will be limiting your potential buyers or you will be taking a monetary hit. 

Buyers today are more educated and pickier than ever because the cars have became investments. 
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 67 GT350 on August 06, 2020, 08:27:42 AM
Now that I am getting older and I tend to do what I like, meaning, I would rather have something that either looks better, or drives better, I guess after reading this post, I dont mind a little mold under the carpet. (for those that cannot understand the last part of the sentence, I might not mind a color change on a car). Of course it you take a car to bare metal and remove every inch of the original color, (remove the mold) so what?!?!  But that is a lot of $$$ and work. Back to my Escort wagon, it was painted yellow and if you looked close when you opened the doors, you could see the tape job and the red. SO, it you are changing the color, make sure you "change" the color.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Chris Thauberger on August 06, 2020, 08:38:32 AM

Gary, you indicated the Rick Nash car had a triple gold, would it have done this with a color change?  If you have a standard 68 FB with a 302, go for it as the color won't matter to most in that price range.  Change a Shelby and you will be limiting your potential buyers or you will be taking a monetary hit. 

Buyers today are more educated and pickier than ever because the cars have became investments.

Not a chance. Colour change is an automatic disqualification for gold as it should.

Too many interpretations of the word restored, it has a defined meaning; repair or renovate (a building, work of art, vehicle, etc.) so as to return it to its original condition "original" being the key modifier.

If its not original it's not restored, example: Keith and eleanor's cars both colour changes so NOT restored. Nothing wrong with either of the cars, I'm sure they are happy with THEIR choices just as I am happy about my choice to restore my car to concours. For the life of me I don’t understand why there is so much animosity between the so called “drivers” and “concours”.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 427heaven on August 06, 2020, 10:21:06 AM
Back in the mid 2000s when you could actually contact a bidder or buyer of an item on Ebay I did my own survey on color changed Shelbys. Of course those bidding or buying didn't care about originality. Enough of them sold for me to justify color changing my 68. Bill Collins once said on this forum there are 3 types of buyers.....

I hear you but that was 15 - 20 years ago, and the prices are not the same.  When these cars went 6 figures the ball game changed.
Sold my 68 in 2013 and after Rick Nash got a 130K(143K buyers premium) for a triple gold winning lime gold  68 GT350 FB so, no, the prices have not changed on 68 GT350s since I sold mine in 2013.....Of course my car was NOT a triple gold and the whole drive train was NOT numbers matching and I knew the market of original color cars. Mine brought MORE than others selling at the time in Hgreen when comparing apples to apples(non concours non original drivetrain). In 30 years of color changing Mustangs(first in 79 and last in 2008) not one was ever hurt value wise when I sold it but to be clear there are some cars I would NEVER color change but the OP stated his intentions for his car and to me that means "go ahead and color change it".  And I do do my cars with an "end monetary result" in mind. Gary

This is a great discussion.  I personally believe changing the color is one of the greatest mistakes that a person can make when restoring a car and expecting a monetary gain.  I also believe, it's your car, it's your money do what you want.

Gary, you indicated the Rick Nash car had a triple gold, would it have done this with a color change?  If you have a standard 68 FB with a 302, go for it as the color won't matter to most in that price range.  Change a Shelby and you will be limiting your potential buyers or you will be taking a monetary hit. 

Buyers today are more educated and pickier than ever because the cars have became investments.
  I personally look at it the opposite way! When purchasing a car I look for all the things I want in a car, and if its got an ugly color,let me rephrase that a color that I cant get past with ownership. I paint it a color that I love and is MORE appealing to the masses. That formula has never let me down, Fords Porsches Ferraris it doesnt matter, if its done right people will flock to get a look at the car, like a moth attracted to a flame.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Chris Thauberger on August 06, 2020, 11:39:54 AM
So as you can see from all the replies, its a personal choice that likely won't likely impact the value of the car in question.

Does the same hold true for engine swaps? What about tranny swaps? These are all "bolt on" changes that can be reversed much easier than a colour change. IMHO

Its you car so reguardless of if you choose to restore it to concours or change the colour / tranny / engine / seats/ wheels etc do what makes YOU happy.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 06, 2020, 11:47:03 AM
LOL I "knew" what you said thanks to Google. Its cool tool to use. Heck I even use it to confirm "stories". LOL https://www.google.com/search?q=translation&rlz=1C1VFKB_enUS749US749&oq=translation&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l6.2959j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
I gotta use Google translate more often.  Seeing how I am Linguistically challenged.

QSS
QSS I got friends who post from other countries on FB and even some on their websites so I use a translation tool when I need to. I had no idea what Tony said until I translated it. I only know the language of my country. Never learned another. Gary
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 06, 2020, 12:00:19 PM
Back in the mid 2000s when you could actually contact a bidder or buyer of an item on Ebay I did my own survey on color changed Shelbys. Of course those bidding or buying didn't care about originality. Enough of them sold for me to justify color changing my 68. Bill Collins once said on this forum there are 3 types of buyers.....

I hear you but that was 15 - 20 years ago, and the prices are not the same.  When these cars went 6 figures the ball game changed.
Sold my 68 in 2013 and after Rick Nash got a 130K(143K buyers premium) for a triple gold winning lime gold  68 GT350 FB so, no, the prices have not changed on 68 GT350s since I sold mine in 2013.....Of course my car was NOT a triple gold and the whole drive train was NOT numbers matching and I knew the market of original color cars. Mine brought MORE than others selling at the time in Hgreen when comparing apples to apples(non concours non original drivetrain). In 30 years of color changing Mustangs(first in 79 and last in 2008) not one was ever hurt value wise when I sold it but to be clear there are some cars I would NEVER color change but the OP stated his intentions for his car and to me that means "go ahead and color change it".  And I do do my cars with an "end monetary result" in mind. Gary

This is a great discussion.  I personally believe changing the color is one of the greatest mistakes that a person can make when restoring a car and expecting a monetary gain.  I also believe, it's your car, it's your money do what you want.

Gary, you indicated the Rick Nash car had a triple gold, would it have done this with a color change?  If you have a standard 68 FB with a 302, go for it as the color won't matter to most in that price range.  Change a Shelby and you will be limiting your potential buyers or you will be taking a monetary hit. 

Buyers today are more educated and pickier than ever because the cars have became investments.
no but at the same time the cost of doing that  car to triple gold and what he got out of it I'm betting I made a LOT more from the sale of my black Shelby. Lets be clear here: I have owned a lot of Mustangs since 1977. I NEVER lost money on any but the first which I had to sell or get kicked out of my parent's house. Many I have color changed. Again it DEPENDS on the car in most cases. My 70 Gt500 DP I color changed set the RECORD at BJ early 2000s for a 69-70 Gt500 and held it for a few years before prices shot up. I sold it for a lot less 12-14 years earlier in 1991. My 69 black boss 429? Color change? NO way. My vert? Almost did to black but no factory black cars so I stayed with red. While you say changing the color you are limiting your buyers well having waht is considered an ugly color to many buyers is also limiting your buyers. Don't take my word for it ask Bill Collins. A shelby dealer for a long time. He chimed in on this subject years ago. Could Rick's car done triple gold with a color change? Well that is a question for the judges as I do not know the rules back around 2010-12. At one time they were thinking of having a Marti report with a car. You can restore a car and change all the tags to match the paint. So how would a judge know the true color other than a Marti report? so could it have won gold back then and now? Well that is a question for the gold card judges. My car was a non matching car with non smog heads for a 4 speed. Repo intake and air cleaner. Perfect choice for a color change on a really clean original panel car. Back in 70 someone decided to put a 428SCJ auto in my Gt350 and the car sat from early 1970s until I put it back on the road around 2008. Like I said I got more for it in black than if it was in green. Gary
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 06, 2020, 12:10:27 PM
Back in the mid 2000s when you could actually contact a bidder or buyer of an item on Ebay I did my own survey on color changed Shelbys. Of course those bidding or buying didn't care about originality. Enough of them sold for me to justify color changing my 68. Bill Collins once said on this forum there are 3 types of buyers.....

I hear you but that was 15 - 20 years ago, and the prices are not the same.  When these cars went 6 figures the ball game changed.
Sold my 68 in 2013 and after Rick Nash got a 130K(143K buyers premium) for a triple gold winning lime gold  68 GT350 FB so, no, the prices have not changed on 68 GT350s since I sold mine in 2013.....Of course my car was NOT a triple gold and the whole drive train was NOT numbers matching and I knew the market of original color cars. Mine brought MORE than others selling at the time in Hgreen when comparing apples to apples(non concours non original drivetrain). In 30 years of color changing Mustangs(first in 79 and last in 2008) not one was ever hurt value wise when I sold it but to be clear there are some cars I would NEVER color change but the OP stated his intentions for his car and to me that means "go ahead and color change it".  And I do do my cars with an "end monetary result" in mind. Gary

This is a great discussion.  I personally believe changing the color is one of the greatest mistakes that a person can make when restoring a car and expecting a monetary gain.  I also believe, it's your car, it's your money do what you want.

Gary, you indicated the Rick Nash car had a triple gold, would it have done this with a color change?  If you have a standard 68 FB with a 302, go for it as the color won't matter to most in that price range.  Change a Shelby and you will be limiting your potential buyers or you will be taking a monetary hit. 

Buyers today are more educated and pickier than ever because the cars have became investments.
  I personally look at it the opposite way! When purchasing a car I look for all the things I want in a car, and if its got an ugly color,let me rephrase that a color that I cant get past with ownership. I paint it a color that I love and is MORE appealing to the masses. That formula has never let me down, Fords Porsches Ferraris it doesnt matter, if its done right people will flock to get a look at the car, like a moth attracted to a flame.
of all the cars I have owned I never got more thumbs up than my 68 Shelby painted black/red. Speaking of Rick Nash's gold winning 68 GT350 he came to the local Mustang club show from a SAAC national convention where he had won gold with his 68 and RED 66 GT350. When the judges came by to ask where my dash card was I told them I was display only-no judging. They pretty much told me if I entered it for judging I would win and Rick's 2 cars were in my class. Hey my car was REALLY nice and detailed out but far from concours correct even though I took it as far as I could go with the little things like correct hardware and such and having an original unrestored interior in mint shape other than the console. So why my car over a 135K 68 and a 195K 66(both sold at BJ the next winter)? The COLOR combo. BTW I passed on entering and Rick's 66 won I think. I'm not into trophies and the enjoyment I got out of my 68 was priceless to me in black other than Hgreen which I hate and it was a new paint job(well 10 years old single stage sitting in a basement) I painted over when I bought the car. Gary
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 06, 2020, 12:19:46 PM
Back in the mid 2000s when you could actually contact a bidder or buyer of an item on Ebay I did my own survey on color changed Shelbys. Of course those bidding or buying didn't care about originality. Enough of them sold for me to justify color changing my 68. Bill Collins once said on this forum there are 3 types of buyers.....

I hear you but that was 15 - 20 years ago, and the prices are not the same.  When these cars went 6 figures the ball game changed.
Sold my 68 in 2013 and after Rick Nash got a 130K(143K buyers premium) for a triple gold winning lime gold  68 GT350 FB so, no, the prices have not changed on 68 GT350s since I sold mine in 2013.....Of course my car was NOT a triple gold and the whole drive train was NOT numbers matching and I knew the market of original color cars. Mine brought MORE than others selling at the time in Hgreen when comparing apples to apples(non concours non original drivetrain). In 30 years of color changing Mustangs(first in 79 and last in 2008) not one was ever hurt value wise when I sold it but to be clear there are some cars I would NEVER color change but the OP stated his intentions for his car and to me that means "go ahead and color change it".  And I do do my cars with an "end monetary result" in mind. Gary

This is a great discussion.  I personally believe changing the color is one of the greatest mistakes that a person can make when restoring a car and expecting a monetary gain.  I also believe, it's your car, it's your money do what you want.

Gary, you indicated the Rick Nash car had a triple gold, would it have done this with a color change?  If you have a standard 68 FB with a 302, go for it as the color won't matter to most in that price range.  Change a Shelby and you will be limiting your potential buyers or you will be taking a monetary hit. 

Buyers today are more educated and pickier than ever because the cars have became investments.
  I personally look at it the opposite way! When purchasing a car I look for all the things I want in a car, and if its got an ugly color,let me rephrase that a color that I cant get past with ownership. I paint it a color that I love and is MORE appealing to the masses. That formula has never let me down, Fords Porsches Ferraris it doesnt matter, if its done right people will flock to get a look at the car, like a moth attracted to a flame.
of all the cars I have owned I never got more thumbs up than my 68 Shelby painted black/red. Speaking of Rick Nash's gold winning 68 GT350 he came to the local Mustang club show from a SAAC national convention where he had won gold with his 68 and RED 66 GT350. When the judges came by to ask where my dash card was I told them I was display only-no judging. They pretty much told me if I entered it for judging I would win and Rick's 2 cars were in my class. Hey my car was REALLY nice and detailed out but far from concours correct even though I took it as far as I could go with the little things like correct hardware and such and having an original unrestored interior in mint shape other than the console. So why my car over a 135K 68 and a 195K 66(both sold at BJ the next winter)? The COLOR combo. BTW I passed on entering and Rick's 66 won I think. I'm not into trophies and the enjoyment I got out of my 68 was priceless to me in black other than Hgreen which I hate and it was a new paint job(well 10 years old single stage sitting in a basement) I painted over when I bought the car. Gary
FYI most concours judged venues have adopted the process of judging against a standard of excellence instead of each other. You could hypothetically have 4 good cars that all get the same level of award if they are in the range of points needed for a award in that class.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: tesgt350 on August 06, 2020, 12:31:52 PM
Just to toss a Monkey Wrench in to the mix...……………………..  Since you are talking color change and you like Blue, WHY bother with a Shelby Color?  Look at the late model Mustang colors like Sonic Blue, Cobalt Blue, Kona Blue, Velocity Blue, Ford Performance Blue, Deep Impact Blue, just to name a few.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 67 GT350 on August 06, 2020, 04:10:25 PM
Just to toss a Monkey Wrench in to the mix...……………………..  Since you are talking color change and you like Blue, WHY bother with a Shelby Color?  Look at the late model Mustang colors like Sonic Blue, Cobalt Blue, Kona Blue, Velocity Blue, Ford Performance Blue, Deep Impact Blue, just to name a few.

I think he want period correct. That is what I would do, if I was changing the color.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: The Going Thing on August 06, 2020, 05:39:36 PM
I stayed with a factory color offered too. It makes sense because of what it is.  It's not a restomod because of a wheel change, which are also factory style 10 spoke rims in 17. It makes sense because of what the car is.  Many of us DRIVE our cars. I do at least twice a week when I'm home. 
There are a couple day two modifications, either they are for power or safety.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: oldcanuck on August 06, 2020, 10:34:11 PM
My '67  GT-350 was originally lime gold. A PO had it painted many years ago raven black.  I wish the color change wasn't done so well and looks as good as it does, so I could have an excuse to take it back to lime gold.  Not my favorite color, but if done right..... it's right......IMO.   Just my $ .02
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Chris Thauberger on August 07, 2020, 12:00:22 PM
Lets look at it from a completely different perspective, what if you own a clone/tribute/(fill in blank)?

Does it matter what colour it was or is going to be painted then?  ;)
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Vernon Estes on August 07, 2020, 02:49:43 PM
In the last year I sold a very nice car which had been taken from Lime to Brittany Blue..

The color change made no difference on the price of the car, as I expected. Sure, some people inquired and ended up not interested because its a color change car. At the same time, Lime tends to be a bit of an acquired taste so, had the car still been lime, it would have likely taken a while to sell for the same price.

I find Lime to be a pretty polarizing color. Most peopel are not a fan but then there is a small group of guys who are super fans and have to have that particular color.

In short, I dont feel changing the color of the car will hurt its potential resale value at all. If anything, it might make it more "sale-able" to a larger % of the market than the original ime color is.

Just my 2 cents...the advice is probably worth what you're paying for it  ;D

Vern
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 2112 on August 07, 2020, 04:04:07 PM
^^^

Good to hear. Reminds back of when color changes were commonplace as it was all about enjoying your car as much as possible.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 8T03S1425 on August 07, 2020, 04:19:14 PM
So, from this narrow survey, it seems that color may be the least important factor when one decides to buy a Shelby. That's how it is/was for me. When I was in the market, my critical factors, in descending order, were:

     1.  body style (convertible)
     2.  transmission (4-speed)
     3.  year (1st 1966, 2nd 1968, 3rd 1969/1970. The '66 convertibles were too rare to be a practical)
     4.  engine (1st big block, 2nd small block)
     5.  available options (air conditioning, tilt/swing away steering column, upgraded factory or after market radio, factory or after market wheels, LeMans stripes)
     6.  color (preferred white and would consider all colors)

No matter what color Shelby was for sale, if it wasn't a convertible with a 4-speed, I moved on. I knew I needed to be flexible, otherwise I might not ever own another Shelby, after I sold 6S2295. When I found a convertible with a 4-speed it also had a 428, A/C, and was white. Realizing that the car I found was as close to my shopping list as I was likely to find, I sealed the deal. Had it been any other color, I would have likely bought and used it until I found the Shelby I wanted. If the paint was in good shape, I'd keep it that color. If it needed a repaint, I might have painted it white, door jambs and trunk included.

I doubt I would have bought a '68, '69, or '70 GT350 convertible with an automatic, unless it had a special paint color and desirable options. If I did, it would be a car that could tide me over till I found what I was looking for.

Back in 1976, when I bought my car, Shelbys were more affordable and available, relative to today's prices and inventory, so I could be a little more choosy. Today's market conditions call for much more selection criteria flexibility, and I think that's what I'm learning from this thread.

Steve
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Chris Thauberger on August 07, 2020, 04:49:44 PM
^^^

Good to hear. Reminds back of when color changes were commonplace as it was all about enjoying your car as much as possible.


It still is  ;)
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbydoug on August 10, 2020, 06:52:46 AM
Does a transmission type change effect the market value negatively?
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Vernon Estes on August 10, 2020, 09:10:37 AM
^^^

Good to hear. Reminds back of when color changes were commonplace as it was all about enjoying your car as much as possible.

Ive seen the market shifting back towards that attitude in the last year years.

The last 3-4 concours 65 GT350s that have gone through my hands have all had radials put on them at the request of the new owners...

Kind regards,
Vern
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Vernon Estes on August 10, 2020, 09:13:36 AM
Does a transmission type change effect the market value negatively?

In general, 4 speed cars are the more desirable, sell the quickest and bring a premium over an auto.

Of course, there are many buyers specifically looking for autos at the same time,..just that most buyers want factory 4 speed cars right now.

Interestingly, 4 speeds are favored enough right now that auto cars converted to 4 speeds, IMO, are similar to lime cars painted to more desirable colors...they actually dont suffer value declines and might actually sell for more if all else is equal despite the cars being "modified".

Again, just my 2 cents...

Vern
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 10, 2020, 10:17:02 AM
Does a transmission type change effect the market value negatively?

In general, 4 speed cars are the more desirable, sell the quickest and bring a premium over an auto.

Of course, there are many buyers specifically looking for autos at the same time,..just that most buyers want factory 4 speed cars right now.

Interestingly, 4 speeds are favored enough right now that auto cars converted to 4 speeds, IMO, are similar to lime cars painted to more desirable colors...they actually dont suffer value declines and might actually sell for more if all else is equal despite the cars being "modified".

Again, just my 2 cents...

Vern
Thanks for your knowledgeable insight Vern. I am one who always has gravitated to 4 speed cars and most of mine have been. Having owned over 30 Mustangs most have been 4 speeds. Only a few have been automatics one being an original 15K mile 73 vert. Gary
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 67 GT350 on August 10, 2020, 11:08:34 AM
So can I tell my potential buyer that the big wigs at SAAC all say, color changes and transmissions changes hardly effect the price?

That might work, except when a SAAC big wig shows up to buy my car, then I bet I will be told, "You know, because you put a nice 4 speed in your car, that has hurt its value." Or The color is not correct, thus I cannot pay as much as I would it you had painted it the correct color."

I am sure my 100K Shelby will be knocked down no matter what it is, auto/air car. If my car was a 4 speed/no air, I bet it would be 120K maybe? Its Moss Green, not my favorite, but its correct. To me even though it is a correct car, I paid much less because, I feel the color dictated that. If I find a 67 that is the color I want, I will maybe change my car out for it.

(My numbers, 100 and 120 are fictional numbers, don't think that's its for sale)
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Shawn on August 10, 2020, 11:50:35 AM
I personally like Lime cars without stripes and having a high quality modern paint job.  I think the Lime cars that are not appreciated have a poor or old paint job and agree the color is not appealing at all.  The modern paint may "not be correct" but sure has a different appearance and reflects the lines of the car much better. 

Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Fastback66 on August 10, 2020, 12:36:21 PM
Great discussion, thanks for the input. I'm going with Nightmist....well that's my plan today anway.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 67 GT350 on August 10, 2020, 12:48:06 PM
I bet with a nice paint job, the green metallic cars can look stunning....
My Boss 302 is the worst color, but I bought it just before the BJ rise years ago, now it did not matter, since they have tumbled in price, my car is that light green, and I must say, it looks great! However, it is not my favorite color. I would or cannot see doing a color change on that car.

(if the picture is sideways, can the sideways guy fixer please fix it?)
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbydoug on August 10, 2020, 02:36:29 PM
I like it.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: JD on August 10, 2020, 03:08:57 PM
Here it is...

(maybe I should change my "handle" seems so many are lately, must be fashionable??)
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbydoug on August 10, 2020, 03:25:12 PM
Here it is...

(maybe I should change my "handle" seems so many are lately, must be fashionable??)

What would you call yourself?
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 67 GT350 on August 10, 2020, 07:18:14 PM
The pic turner!
Thank you!

How you do dat? I am on a MacBook Air......
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: JD on August 10, 2020, 07:37:25 PM
I use a laptop (PC) for getting on the internet (have MAC towers for work and have Photoshop for "real" image editing) it comes with a program called "Paint" which is a very basic image editing program that will rotate, size and let you add text, shapes lines, arrows in color to an image file.

I just save the file to a drive and then open it in Paint rotate it, I usually just add an "R" at the end, save it and repost it.

There maybe some equivalent type program on the MacBook?  Maybe open the file in that program rotate it 90 degrees and resave with a added letter on the end and see if that works?

(I think "JD" seems to work most days)
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbydoug on August 10, 2020, 07:51:40 PM
(I think "JD" seems to work most days)

A rose by any name...
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: FL SAAC on August 10, 2020, 07:58:23 PM
We are now on page # 8......blue
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: tonys_shelby on August 11, 2020, 10:54:35 AM
Is it my understanding that I could not enter a car in division 2 with a color change. Or just gold?
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: JD on August 11, 2020, 11:59:46 AM
Is it my understanding that I could not enter a car in division 2 with a color change. Or just gold?
See this thread and note the last paragraph of the first page, opening post...

(Just trying to help answer the question, not telling anyone what to do - that is entirely your choice!)

http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=5278.0

"...  Thus,  this is where we are now on color changes.  We are of the concensus that the color of the car when it left the factory is very, very important . Going forward ,  A car that is Color changed entered in SAAC Premiere  (D1)  will not be allowed to be judged period!  It will be be downgraded to SAAC Concours! However in SAAC Concourse (D2)   a color change will be allowed to be judged as long as its a color that was available for that year car!  BUT  that car will not be eligible for a gold award at all and will basicly start  as a Silver and go from there. 
   
    We feel this rule is one that will help SAAC protect the integrity of the Marque and SAAC Judging..."
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 427hunter on August 11, 2020, 12:17:47 PM
I like the green and it's the way it was born - also new base clear makes the color pop better then the old single stage version.

 
P.S. If you want the car judged it looks like it's the factory color or nothing.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: Vernon Estes on August 11, 2020, 12:49:28 PM
So can I tell my potential buyer that the big wigs at SAAC all say, color changes and transmissions changes hardly effect the price?

That might work, except when a SAAC big wig shows up to buy my car, then I bet I will be told, "You know, because you put a nice 4 speed in your car, that has hurt its value." Or The color is not correct, thus I cannot pay as much as I would it you had painted it the correct color."


Don't know about being a "big wig"...last time I checked I am merely a "full member" on the site here whereas we all know that post count is what truly dictates your prospective "level" in the overall hierarchy of the hobby  ;D

As far as responding to your particular post...anyone looking to buy anything is going to be very quick to identify anything they see as a "shortcoming" which can be used to negotiate in that person's favor...just as you, as the seller, will be quick to note the car's many positives in the hopes of bolstering the car's desirability. Luckily for you, as the seller, you can tell a potential suitor where to stick his offer if it is not up to the level that you want for the car. All you need is one guy who doesn't care about a trans or color swap to sell the car...and there are WAY more than of those buyers out there. There are also plenty of guys who want Lime cars...

In short....its your car, do what you want with it. Life is too short to worry about whether or not some other knucklehead out there cares about a color or trans change on YOUR car.

Kind regards,
Vern
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: GT350DAVE on August 11, 2020, 12:56:06 PM
+1
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 427hunter on August 11, 2020, 01:23:18 PM
The professional Shelby flippers are saying it won't hurt value, so if a later sale is the issue - looks like that's the answer.

Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 11, 2020, 02:07:26 PM


[/quote]

Don't know about being a "big wig"...last time I checked I am merely a "full member" on the site here whereas we all know that post count is what truly dictates your prospective "level" in the overall hierarchy of the hobby  ;D

As far as responding to your particular post...anyone looking to buy anything is going to be very quick to identify anything they see as a "shortcoming" which can be used to negotiate in that person's favor...just as you, as the seller, will be quick to note the car's many positives in the hopes of bolstering the car's desirability. Luckily for you, as the seller, you can tell a potential suitor where to stick his offer if it is not up to the level that you want for the car. All you need is one guy who doesn't care about a trans or color swap to sell the car...and there are WAY more than of those buyers out there. There are also plenty of guys who want Lime cars...

In short....its your car, do what you want with it. Life is too short to worry about whether or not some other knucklehead out there cares about a color or trans change on YOUR car.

Kind regards,
Vern
[/quote]Well said. 2 Shelbys I color changed over the years to my liking and I'm NOT a Shelby flipper.  :) Gary
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: jcarmain01@comcast.net on September 09, 2020, 08:52:26 PM
I have a 1967 GT 500 that is Lime Gold. I like the color very much. I am going to keep it original. Folks will always say that its your car, so do what you want. I am not so sure I totally agree with that thought. We are but caretakers of these cars and one day someone else will own your car. If they are like me they might want everything original as possible. I know that originality was important to me when I bought the 67 GT 500. Why take a chance on lowering its value to a future buyer that is into originally.
I bought a 1967 GT 350 in 2017, that I had last owned in 1974. The car was an original Brittany blue car, but a subsequent owner painted it white with blue stripes. I had it restored and painted it back to Brittany blue. I have to admit I love the White w/blue stripes, but I wanted it to be as close to original as it was in 1974. It is now the correct original color and is beautiful. Tough decision! Good luck!   Jim 
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: jim mac on November 17, 2020, 08:29:34 AM
I'm a bit late to this thread, but I have a Nightmist blue GT350 that I have owned for 20 years (#2348).  It was originally a red car, but was painted nightmist blue in 1983.  At that time, the owner told me that he couldn't decide whether to paint it red or blue, nightmist blue being his favorite Shelby color.  He said he stood at the paint counter with both paint codes in his hand trying to decide.  He chose blue and never regretted it. 27 years later, I faced the same dilemma. I had the car striped down and could see some of the original red, which was not a real common color for the 1967 Shelbys. Should I go with the more rare red, and probably better color for resale because it was the original color, or keep it nightmist blue, which is my favorite 67 Shelby color, and the reason I originally bought the car. Well, I ultimately decided on blue, and I have never regretted it.  I am not concerned with resale and I have a car that I drive, show, and treasure.       
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: FL SAAC on November 17, 2020, 10:16:31 AM
+1 glorious reply

I'm a bit late to this thread, but I have a Nightmist blue GT350 that I have owned for 20 years (#2348).  It was originally a red car, but was painted nightmist blue in 1983.  At that time, the owner told me that he couldn't decide whether to paint it red or blue, nightmist blue being his favorite Shelby color.  He said he stood at the paint counter with both paint codes in his hand trying to decide.  He chose blue and never regretted it. 27 years later, I faced the same dilemma. I had the car striped down and could see some of the original red, which was not a real common color for the 1967 Shelbys. Should I go with the more rare red, and probably better color for resale because it was the original color, or keep it nightmist blue, which is my favorite 67 Shelby color, and the reason I originally bought the car. Well, I ultimately decided on blue, and I have never regretted it.  I am not concerned with resale and I have a car that I drive, show, and treasure.       
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: vtgt500 on November 17, 2020, 03:28:55 PM
Also late to the dance.  My $0.02.  Being car guys, friends and I from around the country  rendezvous at SEMA most years.  The backdrop of phenomenal paint work is mind boggling.  New paint materials offer near limitless possibilities.  Consider something as stubble as an original pigment base coat, with a mid coat clear tinted with a hint of contrasting color pearl, then flow coated with high solids clear.  I came away remembering paints jobs more than the marques.  Well done, you could appreciate the car and paint equally.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 6s2055 on November 17, 2020, 04:09:04 PM
Interesting post back in August by Bob Gaines! When I found ‘67 GT500 #0195 in Reno sitting in a backyard field it was red! Original color was Lime Green and I went to white!
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: oldcanuck on November 22, 2020, 08:49:36 AM
When I bought my GT350, it had been color changed to Raven Black by the PO in about 2009 and I had full intentions on taking it back to Lime Gold since the car is all original sheet metal being it had been in the panhandle of FL and So Cal all it's life. I have lived with it because it was done so very well.

Fast forward.... yesterday I stopped at a fellow members new garage..... (BTW Fran, breathtaking !) and he has a Boss 302 in Lime Gold. Obviously painted with modern 2 stage paint and clear coat...... WOW did it look good.

Now my head is messing with me..... and it didn't help that my wife saw it too .....
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 427heaven on November 22, 2020, 09:25:01 AM
There is no winner or loser with this answer. We all like something different when it comes to colors or other things, paint it something that is very pleasing to the eyes, after all you need to look at it year after year. If you had your favorite (model)poster hanging up in your garage, would you want the model to be wearing lime green undergarments or lets say something a little more racy like red or black or?
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 2112 on November 22, 2020, 12:25:46 PM

Fast forward.... yesterday I stopped at a fellow members new garage..... (BTW Fran, breathtaking !) and he has a Boss 302 in Lime Gold. Obviously painted with modern 2 stage paint and clear coat...... WOW did it look good.

Now my head is messing with me..... and it didn't help that my wife saw it too .....

Fresh Lime Gold in 2-stage is truly on a different plane compared to old single stage enamel.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 1175 on November 22, 2020, 04:07:21 PM
Stick with the color it was born with.  You will never regret that decision.

Jon
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbydoug on November 22, 2020, 06:32:16 PM
It isn't easy being green.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPvZR6DTbq8

It depends on your point of view I suppose?
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 67 GT350 on November 22, 2020, 07:30:50 PM
When I bought my GT350, it had been color changed to Raven Black by the PO in about 2009 and I had full intentions on taking it back to Lime Gold since the car is all original sheet metal being it had been in the panhandle of FL and So Cal all it's life. I have lived with it because it was done so very well.

Fast forward.... yesterday I stopped at a fellow members new garage..... (BTW Fran, breathtaking !) and he has a Boss 302 in Lime Gold. Obviously painted with modern 2 stage paint and clear coat...... WOW did it look good.

Now my head is messing with me..... and it didn't help that my wife saw it too .....

Thank you Bob, it was nice meeting you and your wife!!! Your car looks fantastic, I know this topic is a hard one....BTW when you left, I got to say, your car sounds fantastic!!! Us Knoxville guys and gals will soon have to get together....I wonder how many of us are in this area?
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 427heaven on November 22, 2020, 07:55:55 PM
I will stick with the there is no good answer to that question. Its like when your significant other asks - Does this outfit make me look fat? :-[ Chances are it probably does... How you answer the question is what you have to live with. The good news is its yours do what makes you happy.
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbydoug on November 22, 2020, 08:38:05 PM
I will stick with the there is no good answer to that question. Its like when your significant other asks - Does this outfit make me look fat? :-[ Chances are it probably does... How you answer the question is what you have to live with. The good news is its yours do what makes you happy.

Well you are getting to the point...it's in the eyes of the beholder.

I too have seen Lime in modern two stage and it jumps at you with fantastic depth and IS SPECTACULAR.

Do you see the glass as half fat or half empty?
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: 427hunter on November 22, 2020, 09:19:28 PM
Lime gold Shelby lives matter ! oh uh well something like that, make it electric, wait sell it and give the money to UNCF, burn it, oh wait global warming. This is the vibe I am getting..
Title: Re: To Paint Original Lime Gold or non Orginal Nightmist Blue
Post by: shelbydoug on November 24, 2020, 07:59:59 AM
Lime gold Shelby lives matter ! oh uh well something like that, make it electric, wait sell it and give the money to UNCF, burn it, oh wait global warming. This is the vibe I am getting..

Nightmist blue originally had the same issues as lime in the original system. The depth and life of the finish soon died in daily use.

Many of those were also repainted other colors.

I would stay with the original color.