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Title: Help Identifying a car
Post by: 10sbums on August 11, 2020, 01:22:29 PM
Hello!

I could use your collective intelligence and knowledge to determine what this car is.  Attached is a photo of the VIN plate to the vehicle.  Does this mean anything to anyone?  I am completely ignorant when it comes to these cars and really could use some help.

Thank you in advance.

Warmly,
Rick
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: acman63 on August 11, 2020, 01:26:36 PM
not a shelby car
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: Coralsnake on August 11, 2020, 01:29:00 PM
I agree with The Chairman. This is not a Shelby product built in the 1960s.

It is some type of kit, continuation or after thought.

Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: SBCARGUY on August 11, 2020, 01:32:08 PM
+1
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: 10sbums on August 11, 2020, 01:34:26 PM
Thank you, gentlemen!

This is what I was coming up with as well.  But, I know very little. 

Whatever this poor girl is, she's had a rough recent life.  If you wouldn't mind looking at the photos to see anything about her that jumps out at you insofar as what she it.  I will modify this post to add some photos.

Thank you for your help!
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: Coralsnake on August 11, 2020, 01:38:25 PM
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/8-110820133653.png)
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: computerworks on August 11, 2020, 01:43:53 PM
Pics of front suspension, firewall and inside trunk may help ID'ing which kit it is
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: 10sbums on August 11, 2020, 02:16:36 PM
I will add those to this post later this week when she arrives.  Thank you!
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: Bill on August 11, 2020, 02:45:34 PM
SPF  8)
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: Coralsnake on August 11, 2020, 03:03:33 PM
I am certain,  the person that put the Shelby tag on the car would have never tried to pass it off as a real car.

Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: Coralsnake on August 11, 2020, 03:13:47 PM
It does look like the potential to be a fun car!
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: Bill on August 11, 2020, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on August 11, 2020, 03:13:47 PM
It does look like the potential to be a fun car!

Only if the frame is not twisted at all. Otherwise it's pretty moneypit
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: SunDude on August 11, 2020, 03:39:39 PM
Rick, the car is a wrecked Superformance MkIII of approx. 1998 vintage.

Quote from: 10sbums on August 11, 2020, 01:22:29 PM
Hello!

I could use your collective intelligence and knowledge to determine what this car is.  Attached is a photo of the VIN plate to the vehicle.  Does this mean anything to anyone?  I am completely ignorant when it comes to these cars and really could use some help.

Thank you in advance.

Warmly,
Rick
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: 10sbums on August 11, 2020, 04:53:31 PM
@SunDude.

Thank you!  How is it that you know it's a Superformance MkIII and the approx vintage?

Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: Bill on August 11, 2020, 04:54:17 PM
Quote from: 10sbums on August 11, 2020, 04:53:31 PM
@SunDude.

Thank you!  How is it that you know it's a Superformance MkIII and the approx vintage?

Google :D
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: 10sbums on August 11, 2020, 04:55:29 PM
what did you enter to get that?  I put the VIN in and didn't get too much of anything that helped.
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: davez on August 11, 2020, 05:18:33 PM
5R5 must be the world manufacturer identifier  for  Superformance
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: propayne on August 11, 2020, 05:29:26 PM
From what I've heard and read, Superformance makes high quality vehicles.

Hopefully it wasn't wreck too badly.

Good luck!!

- Phillip
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: Bill on August 11, 2020, 05:44:16 PM
Car already sold at Copart
The pictures tell the tale  ::)

(https://cs.copart.com/v1/AUTH_svc.pdoc00001/HPX58/3fd50765-8e31-44c0-9d45-c282a97ac61b.JPG)
(https://cs.copart.com/v1/AUTH_svc.pdoc00001/HPX58/601441ce-6e04-4697-af41-89ecb92d3a2e.JPG)
(https://cs.copart.com/v1/AUTH_svc.pdoc00001/HPX58/4aec98b6-d389-47b2-b1a2-70c4c84290fb.JPG)

Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: SBCARGUY on August 11, 2020, 06:07:24 PM
Hope it was seriously cheap...  8) 8)
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: 557 on August 11, 2020, 06:32:41 PM
Glad I wasn't in it when whatever happened happened.Not pretty...
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: SunDude on August 11, 2020, 08:38:11 PM
Quote from: 10sbums on August 11, 2020, 04:53:31 PM
@SunDude.

Thank you!  How is it that you know it's a Superformance MkIII and the approx vintage?

I own a Superformance Cobra too, and the poor owner of that particular car is a member of the owner's club.

Quote from: davez on August 11, 2020, 05:18:33 PM
5R5 must be the world manufacturer identifier for Superformance

No, that's not it. Not sure what that 5R5 number signifies.

Superformance cars don't have a 17-digit VIN like a regular production vehicle. Its cars are numbered as SP0xxxx where xxxx is the four-digit serial number.
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: 10sbums on August 11, 2020, 11:34:56 PM
@SunDude

You know the prior owner of this car?!  Is there any chance you can connect me with him?  I would love to know the history and circumstances of the car.  Not sure if it's revivable or not yet, but would really like to know more about it.  Well...to be honest, anything about it would be more than I know at this point!

Thank you!
Rick
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: Bill on August 12, 2020, 05:59:44 AM
Quote from: 10sbums on August 11, 2020, 11:34:56 PM
@SunDude

You know the prior owner of this car?!  Is there any chance you can connect me with him?  I would love to know the history and circumstances of the car.  Not sure if it's revivable or not yet, but would really like to know more about it.  Well...to be honest, anything about it would be more than I know at this point!

Thank you!
Rick

Rick,

   The damage to the frame goes from front right to left rear, and the inheritance twist has to be repaired before anything else is. Without the proper repair, it will be like putting lipstick on a pig. First thing you need to do is get it on a frame rack, the torsional twist, while not apparent to your eyes, is to mine. I've owned a few cobra replicas, several of them were SPF's. While your quest to speak with the owner is obvious, I'm suspecting the owner will not know more than the insurance company totaled the car and the reason for it, which I've already mentioned at the start of this reply. I say this as most owners are not mechanics, and would not know what they were looking at, even when pointed out to them in regards to the chassis issues. Finally, in addition to this forum, you may want to start a thread on clubcobra dot com. Make certain to premise it with "I just bought this" as you'll get started on the right foot there with it's knowledgeable members.
If it was my project, this is how it would go, you do not need to pull the body, but I would.

Step one: pull the body
Step two: Get it to a shop with a frame rack that they use laser measuring tools
Step three: that will depend on the results of step two.

Enjoy the experience either way it goes.

Bill
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: SunDude on August 12, 2020, 07:15:20 AM
Rick, I don't really know the previous owner personally (we're just on the same owners forum), but I know who he is.

If you PM me your contact info (email address), I will pass it along and ask him to contact you if he's willing.

But, as Bill says above, I'm not sure what he can tell you about the repairs needed to the car.

Quote from: 10sbums on August 11, 2020, 11:34:56 PM
@SunDude

You know the prior owner of this car?!  Is there any chance you can connect me with him?  I would love to know the history and circumstances of the car.  Not sure if it's revivable or not yet, but would really like to know more about it.  Well...to be honest, anything about it would be more than I know at this point!

Thank you!
Rick
Title: Re: Help Identifying a car
Post by: 10sbums on August 12, 2020, 12:02:41 PM
Thank you, Bill.  I sincerely appreciate the input.

Fortunately, I do have over 30 years experience working on collision damaged cars and do have a high tech digital frame rack.  I definitely will pull the body off the car as I can see it not only better from a quality standpoint, but also from a workability/access point of view. 

My desire to speak to the owner was to find out more about the car and not so much about the accident itself.  I would love to know all that was done and put into it over the years.  It's clear to me that by and large, Cobra owners take care of their cars and invest a lot into them.  That said, I'm curious what this one has. 

Unless there are some unforeseen circumstances, this girls will get the proper care and treatment and will be back on the road enjoying the SoCal sun!

By the way, I have since been connected to the prior owner thank you to someone on the forum.

Warmly,
Rick