My original fender markings are in yellow ink/paint but no matter how I look at them I still can't be sure of how to reproduce accurately. Both are along top edge of fenders. I know some of you have seen hundreds of examples and may have a clear picture of originals. Jan built 68 350. Thanks!
Is the question what they say or how to reproduced them?
Hoping there would be an example I could take to local print shop for them to make a copy. I had considered using my name,but that was shot down by everyone :o Any help appreciated....type of ink/paint,other locations I may have missed,etc
http://www.thecoralsnake.com/Inspectors
I would not use your name.
Looks like Kerrwin and Martz to me
There should be one on the cowl as well
https://www.customstamps.com/traditional-hand-stamp-rs05-2?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7dq_m5rh6wIV5MuGCh3xUQ0REAQYASABEgIxxfD_BwE
Just use paint not ink
Any competent copy shop can make the stamp
One thing you will often find in having a shop reproduce these sorts of things is the difference (large or small) between the older fonts (no longer used) and modern fonts. Because of this ask for a sample of what it will look like before you have them made so you can compare how close they may be to the original. Remember what you see is likely different than what the stamp looks like.
What we see is after compression of the rubber stamp, build up of the ink or paint on the stamp face and often a slide or smear of the stamp as it was applied.
Just some things to consider
Mine say "Paint OK - Adam".
I can't tell you how many people got Pee O'd when they saw them on my car? Quite a few. That's before most were talking about them.
Mine is a '68 Hertz car which in some small ways are a little different then the other '68s. When it was completely original, other "experts" would come up to me telling me that it was all wrong and not a real Shelby.
The last guy who was told car wasn't real was banished for eternity.
Best not tell anyone else that story
;)
Quote from: Coralsnake on September 12, 2020, 11:07:50 AM
The last guy who was told car wasn't real was banished for eternity.
Best not tell anyone else that story
;)
Oh, it's real alright. The experts in many cases, just aren't experts. They are the ones who should be banished. To some, a little knowledge makes them dangerous to others unfortunately.
I'm not running away and hiding in the closet with a bag over my head like some might and are right now. I have the ability to see the difference between right and wrong, truth and fiction.
Apparently the person of whom you refer to doesn't?
Quote from: Coralsnake on September 12, 2020, 11:07:50 AM
The last guy who was told car wasn't real was banished for eternity.
Best not tell anyone else that story
;)
There is a difference .That last guy wasn't told his car wasn't real just the evidenced laid in his lap to show that the jig is up. That guy knew his car was a fake yet he portrayed it as real and even fake shamed others at times in hypocritical fashion. No one banished him he banished himself because he was outed. ;)
True. I think he is welcome back. He just needs to set the record straight.
Banished forever just sounded better
Quote from: Coralsnake on September 12, 2020, 01:01:33 PM
True. I think he is welcome back. He just needs to set the record straight.
Banished forever just sounded better
You may be correct, but it is self-banishment and he deserves it.
He's the only person that told me he would never join SAAC because of the element.
I want to hear his explanation to the TDMV about the VIN plate?
Just a matter of time. Hopefully he can stay clear of Plano. Guess who knows a Plano officer?
Speaking of "paint ok " stamps............remember? :D
I just want to see a clear picture of " KERRWIN stamp to verify spelling...then you can continue the lynching ;D
Quote from: shelbydoug on September 12, 2020, 07:29:16 AM
Mine say "Paint OK - Adam".
Mine said paint ok Adam as I uncovered them back in the 80's. I had Bob Perkins to stamp me his Adam stamp on to a piece of paper back then and he sent me the paper. I took it to a very well known printing outfit here locally and had one made. Turned out really well.
Rukiddin, check with BP and see if he can help you with a kerrwin stamp ;)
I dont have a clear photo, but I think it is Kerrwin
Im confident on the "RRWIN" but not so much on the beginning of the name
Three examples of last names starting with "K" from NJ. These are all from 66 production
Top two appears to be the same regular inspector - Bottom appears to be a different regular inspector
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/14/6-120920170843.jpeg)
The top one looks like "KRRWIN"? Don't see an "E" ???
Nothing before the "K" or after the "N".
On the passenger side cowl. -01107.
Someone should go on a mission to track down old plant workers. I think I have about ten names.
Quote from: shelbydoug on September 12, 2020, 05:32:38 PM
On the passenger side cowl. -01107.
Can't read it :o Too Fuzzy ???
Maybe it is "IKRRWIN" ?
52 ?? Just a Baby ;D
No takers on the project?
I have seen a "PAINT OK SZABO"
This cant be a coincidence: https://veteransfuneralcare.com/obituary/Stephen-Pete-Szabo
I bet there is an interesting story waiting for followup.
Quote from: shelbydoug on September 12, 2020, 07:29:16 AM
Mine say "Paint OK - Adam".
I can't tell you how many people got Pee O'd when they saw them on my car? Quite a few. That's before most were talking about them.
Mine is a '68 Hertz car which in some small ways are a little different then the other '68s. When it was completely original, other "experts" would come up to me telling me that it was all wrong and not a real Shelby.
Looks like I have "Adam" also.
Quote from: Coralsnake on September 13, 2020, 07:55:45 AM
No takers on the project?
I have seen a "PAINT OK SZABO"
This cant be a coincidence: https://veteransfuneralcare.com/obituary/Stephen-Pete-Szabo
I bet there is an interesting story waiting for followup.
How do you even find this stuff? 8) 8)
Well, I must admit, that was actually a failed attempt.
It looks more like "SZARO" with an "R"
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/8-130920120327.jpeg)
Quote from: Coralsnake on September 13, 2020, 12:04:34 PM
It looks more like "SZARO" with an "R"
Another look at the spelling. From a 67 NJ examples
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/14/6-130920143009.jpeg)
Shall we go all in?
Quote from: JohnB on September 13, 2020, 03:55:21 PM
69 San Jose Grande trunk lid.
Given the section title (1968 Shelby .....) don't think San Jose names is the focus or are going to help others discussing NJ employees ;)
Would also help, if your going to post, when the car was built or some other identifier since in the long run additional information contributes to further study
Quote from: J_Speegle on September 13, 2020, 04:41:13 PM
Quote from: JohnB on September 13, 2020, 03:55:21 PM
69 San Jose Grande trunk lid.
Given the section title (1968 Shelby .....) don't think San Jose names is the focus or are going to help others discussing NJ employees ;)
Would also help, if your going to post, when the car was built or some other identifier since in the long run additional information contributes to further study
My bad! Removed.
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/8-130920195244.jpeg)
From Chris...
Still staying focused on Mr K :)
From 8T1435xx
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/14/6-130920213051.jpeg)
From 8T1553xx
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/14/6-130920213134.jpeg)
From a late 68
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/14/6-130920213223.jpeg)
Is it safe to assume that the same person inspected and stamped the 3 "paint ok" points on the car?
So then the quality inspection was a final inspection after the fenders were installed ?
Quote from: Craner on September 14, 2020, 07:21:38 PM
Is it safe to assume that the same person inspected and stamped the 3 "paint ok" points on the car?
No - you should find the name or number different on the fenders verses the uni-body. If you have a Mustang the hood would get stamped also.
There are also (at NJ) Body Paint stamps as well as Paint OK on the unibody.
May be at shift change but there are examples where the fenders had different inspectors. Have the same, more than one paint inspectors stamping the unibody.
The link in reply 3 explains what typically happened
That inspector "Martz" was a busy guy.......many have replied with his example of stamp. My '68 350 was Jan. Built and one of the very nicest unrestored cars I could find in 1986. Been stored inside since then. Absolutely no doubt about originality of front fenders and two different marks ( Martz and "Kerrwin (sp? ) which is my original question. I will go with "Martz" on known location and wait for more info on the opposite side. I will NOT stamp until I am sure. Thanks for all the help!
My KR just has the number '34' with the paint ok stamp. Any input?
If you look at the link I posted in response three, you will find the answer:
BODY PAINT
O.K. 34
Sorry Pete, guess I should have read a little closer. I also noticed, looking at your photos of New Jersey paint stamps, that there is what appears to be a paint or chalk mark 'under ' the paint near where the cowl meets the fender on the right side. Almost as if it was applied to the bare metal.
My KR has the same mark, almost like a sloppy 'A' or the symbol for a cent. Don't mean to get off topic, but curious as to what that means.
Sorry I dont know the meaning of that marking
Quote from: Peter L. on September 16, 2020, 08:07:52 AM
Sorry Pete, guess I should have read a little closer. I also noticed, looking at your photos of New Jersey paint stamps, that there is what appears to be a paint or chalk mark 'under ' the paint near where the cowl meets the fender on the right side. Almost as if it was applied to the bare metal.
My KR has the same mark, almost like a sloppy 'A' or the symbol for a cent. Don't mean to get off topic, but curious as to what that means.
Have seen a few of those also. In the ones I have it appears almost like someone wrote something using a figure in the still wet body color applied to that small panel. Not enough examples to suggest a meaning from the ones I've seen
One example I just looked like was pretty much as you wrote above - "sloppy 'A' or the symbol for a cent" and from 8T02T2050xx. You may own a KR that I've got a picture (dark green example) of built about the same time. If not then I have another example with a sequential number very close to the 6 cylinder I posted above.
My KR is a July built car. I thought perhaps the 'sloppy A' applied to the bare metal might indicate Raven Black paint until I saw the exact same mark on a different color car. Hmmm....
Or a "k" ?
Mystery....
68 500 conv. 1797
And the verdict is in, May I have the envelope please................
DC-DD, got it !!
It's KRRWIN ;)
Now, I can't see the top photo clearly ;D :o