Scary times last week. Last Monday night September 7th 100+ mph east wind gusts pushed fires in the Cascade Mountains west towards Salem, Molalla and Estacada Oregon. Over the next few days several communities including Detroit, Idanha, Gates, Mill City, Mehama, Lyons, Scotts Mills, Colton and others had catastrophic loses. Not to mention all the other fires going on at the same time near Lincoln City, Newberg, Roseburg, Eugene, and Ashland. Absolutley craziness.
Homes, barns, animals, and several people's lives have been lost due to the fires. The fires have been contained for the most part since Saturday, but there is still a tremendous amount of work being done. Power crews are working around the clock repairing down power lines. Cleanup crews are working to remove dead animals. Crews are clearing fallen trees and rocks in the highways. Then there is the police that are protecting what is left and fighting off looters and catching arsonists. Hopefully we are through the scariest parts, but there is so much more rebuild and cleanup ahead.
I moved my cars to safety last Tuesday. What a job that is.... Growing up on the dry side of Oregon makes me always nervous about fire danger.
I have seen it happen too often in my lifetime. Maybe not having so much "stuff" is a good thing! A couple of weeks ago on the radio I heard there is a new trend called "Fall cleaning" instead of Spring cleaning. I am ok with that, this is a good excuse to move some stuff along. Less to worry about for the next disaster.
I am lucky and grateful the fire didn't get to my place. I feel very sad for the folks that cannot say that. This is going to be a long rebuild period. This Sunday, September 20th in Stayton, OR at Regis High School is a cruise-in to help raise funds to support the Santiam Canyon Wildfire Relief Fund.
Here are a few great articles of civilians that jumped in and helped (the articles only capture a fraction of the people who are helping) Everyone put aside their differences, banded together and helped where ever is needed. These folks are still helping today too. Even in a natural disaster we have great people doing great things. These articles and actions give me hope for our world.
https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/09/behind-the-firelines-the-race-to-save-scotts-mills.html?fbclid=IwAR1i4-YBa9ur2iUHKPDoRSadliCfKohRvtDcSwguPSfNEfyxolJ_K18zNSM (https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/09/behind-the-firelines-the-race-to-save-scotts-mills.html?fbclid=IwAR1i4-YBa9ur2iUHKPDoRSadliCfKohRvtDcSwguPSfNEfyxolJ_K18zNSM)
https://canbyfirst.com/all-volunteer-redneck-crew-credited-with-saving-molalla-neighborhood/?fbclid=IwAR3R4rHegmIZqRjsEMJjr5vzWH5GtnytAEat4JfitoZDWYdg6Ft_erp_ZCM (https://canbyfirst.com/all-volunteer-redneck-crew-credited-with-saving-molalla-neighborhood/?fbclid=IwAR3R4rHegmIZqRjsEMJjr5vzWH5GtnytAEat4JfitoZDWYdg6Ft_erp_ZCM)
I realize there is also a great deal of fires going on in Washington and California as well. I wish everyone safety and hope everyone can make it through this.
Wow. Thanks for the updates. Glad to hear you got your cars out.
Be careful out there. I lived in the SoCal hills for decades and know how scary fire can be.
Good to hear you & your cars got out of the fire zone safely! We have the smokey haze of the western US wildfires all the way up in BC, Canada.
Years ago I bought a '65 GT350 from Paradise, California. When the wildfires completely wiped out Paradise a couple of years ago I contacted the previous owner to check on him and make sure he got out safely. Turned out he had rather luckily moved to western Oregon only a couple of years earlier. Last year he messaged me to let me know he was moving to Florida, and while packing found a couple of items that belonged with the Shelby and mailed them to me. Seems like he was lucky twice!
Good luck to you!
So glad you are ok Brian. The fire images from Oregon have been scary.
And thanks for the story links. Really good people.
Very scary - the smoke is even impacting us here on the east coast in Virginia.
Fingers crossed the weather change will help.
- Phillip
AP photo from Phoenix, OR.
(https://mapi.associatedpress.com/v1/items/3437630837dc47f08d2eddc31c0f3895/preview/preview.jpg?s=690x)
If only California and other states would take precautions to prevent this from happening. But when some can use it to instill an agenda.....etc.
My heart goes out to those that are suffering. I have read of some who were burned alive.
Hope the victims can find peace and comfort soon.
Quote from: 67 GT350 on September 16, 2020, 02:08:54 PM
If only California and other states would take precautions to prevent this from happening. But when some can use it to instill an agenda.....etc.
California has hundreds of millions of Acres and about 60% of the forests are controlled by the federal government which does very little to help with fire abatement. When most of this started we had over 1,100 lightning strikes setting off hundreds of fires so you can't exactly blame it on California alone. Instead of trying to lay blame donate somewhere to make life better.
Roy in Brentwood, Northern California
Quote from: TA Coupe on September 16, 2020, 07:02:26 PM
Quote from: 67 GT350 on September 16, 2020, 02:08:54 PM
If only California and other states would take precautions to prevent this from happening. But when some can use it to instill an agenda.....etc.
California has hundreds of millions of Acres and about 60% of the forests are controlled by the federal government which does very little to help with fire abatement. When most of this started we had over 1,100 lightning strikes setting off hundreds of fires so you can't exactly blame it on California alone. Instead of trying to lay blame donate somewhere to make life better.
Roy in Brentwood, Northern California
OK
Quote from: 67 GT350 on September 16, 2020, 02:08:54 PM
If only California and other states would take precautions to prevent this from happening. ............................
+1 At least take steps should be done to limit and/or decrease the numbers of acres burnt when mother nature happens.
Quote from: TA Coupe on September 16, 2020, 07:02:26 PM
California has hundreds of millions of Acres and about 60% of the forests are controlled by the federal government which does very little to help with fire abatement. When most of this started we had over 1,100 lightning strikes setting off hundreds of fires so you can't exactly blame it on California alone.
Didn't see where anyone stated California only. Elements of special interest groups have been part of forest management across the country include BLM for decades. Remember Yellowstone. We do need to find what went wrong (placing blame is another way to say it) to reduce the chances of a repeat. Short sided with no refelction of the possible unintended consequences.
And yes donated last year and years before in time and $$'s but tiring of it when the losses could be have been reduced in many cases.
Glad you got out safely & looks like a good idea to own your trailer ,when you live in fire vulnerable places & own multiple cars .
Interesting article from 2 weeks ago;
https://www.propublica.org/article/they-know-how-to-prevent-megafires-why-wont-anybody-listen?utm_source=pocket-newtab
Quote from: TA Coupe on September 16, 2020, 07:02:26 PM
Quote from: 67 GT350 on September 16, 2020, 02:08:54 PM
If only California and other states would take precautions to prevent this from happening. But when some can use it to instill an agenda.....etc.
California has hundreds of millions of Acres and about 60% of the forests are controlled by the federal government which does very little to help with fire abatement. When most of this started we had over 1,100 lightning strikes setting off hundreds of fires so you can't exactly blame it on California alone. Instead of trying to lay blame donate somewhere to make life better.
Roy in Brentwood, Northern California
I AGREE. Listening on NPR radio going to work yesterday morning(just got sirius) they were talking to some "experts" about forest management out west as it has come in the news politically lately. It was said in Calif the Fed govt owns the majority of the forests and California themselves own about 3 percent and the rest is privately owned. So for anyone to bash Calif govt on forest mgt is just off base. Gary
Quote from: J_Speegle on September 16, 2020, 08:03:25 PM
Quote from: 67 GT350 on September 16, 2020, 02:08:54 PM
If only California and other states would take precautions to prevent this from happening. ............................
+1 At least take steps should be done to limit and/or decrease the numbers of acres burnt when mother nature happens.
Quote from: TA Coupe on September 16, 2020, 07:02:26 PM
California has hundreds of millions of Acres and about 60% of the forests are controlled by the federal government which does very little to help with fire abatement. When most of this started we had over 1,100 lightning strikes setting off hundreds of fires so you can't exactly blame it on California alone.
Didn't see where anyone stated California only. Elements of special interest groups have been part of forest management across the country include BLM for decades. Remember Yellowstone. We do need to find what went wrong (placing blame is another way to say it) to reduce the chances of a repeat. Short sided with no refelction of the possible unintended consequences.
And yes donated last year and years before in time and $$'s but tiring of it when the losses could be have been reduced in many cases.
Thanks, so true. There are many precautions States can do to reduce the damage. Some won't hear of it.
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on September 17, 2020, 07:22:45 AM
I AGREE. Listening on NPR radio going to work yesterday morning(just got sirius) they were talking to some "experts" about forest management out west as it has come in the news politically lately. It was said in Calif the Fed govt owns the majority of the forests and California themselves own about 3 percent and the rest is privately owned. So for anyone to bash Calif govt on forest mgt is just off base. Gary
Even if this percentage was correct the State sets the rules as to use and restrictions. Believe that as we often see numbers are slanted in the media to show what the presenter want to convey. Just because they, the state, doesn't own the property does not mean they don't set the rules, laws and impose the fines if you don't bend to the restrictions. Anyone living in Calif and owns rural property should be able to attest to the restrictions and oversight the state imposes. It's not politics and should not be - it's the facts. But of course people choose their facts and facts become weaponized. A terrible term IMHO but its a well used one now a days.
You might be want to pull up a map showing how much of the state is protected, directly and under contract by CalFire.
You may or may not notice that most current "experts" working in the system currently will not rock the boat and most of the comments about how screwed up things are come from guys already retired that choose to speak out.
On the positive side but not to down play the losses to many. Should be allot of great areas for the mushroom hunters available in a year or so
I can't imagine!! I see this stuff on National News and my heart breaks.
I live in W. North Carolina on the east coast and we seem to get by most of natural disasters and we feel blessed.
We will keep all you guys/gals on the west coast in our thoughts and prayers.
Yay, we are getting rain. Cleaning the air and helping to quench the fires.
See you at the car show Sunday!
Quote from: Krelboyne on September 18, 2020, 05:04:07 PM
Yay, we are getting rain. Cleaning the air and helping to quench the fires.
See you at the car show Sunday!
See you there Scott! First time in a long time I am enjoying the rain...never thought I would say that. Haha