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Title: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: BGlover67 on October 10, 2020, 09:17:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6rrs-goJqo

Guy claims the car was bought out of Galpin, then returned to Shelby to install four fender flares.  Sounds like BS?  Pretty ugly looking though. 
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: Sfm6sxxx on October 10, 2020, 09:38:55 PM
Is he from Texas and his name is Dan or "Keith"?
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: BGlover67 on October 10, 2020, 10:01:45 PM
good one
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: Bob Gaines on October 11, 2020, 12:06:20 AM
Almost a certainly BS . Maier Racing has sold those flairs since the early 70's. https://www.maierracing.com/shop/fiberglass/individual-parts/flares/
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: shelbydoug on October 11, 2020, 07:21:33 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on October 11, 2020, 12:06:20 AM
Almost a certainly BS . Maier Racing has sold those flairs since the early 70's. https://www.maierracing.com/shop/fiberglass/individual-parts/flares/

+1. Those are Bill Maier's flares.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: Coralsnake on October 11, 2020, 12:13:02 PM
Well, this is important information.  Shelby was modifying cars in Gardena in 1968?

Can anyone support that claim?
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: 2112 on October 11, 2020, 02:08:48 PM
video here;

http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=7290.0
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: BGlover67 on October 11, 2020, 07:41:07 PM
Quote from: 2112 on October 11, 2020, 02:08:48 PM
video here;

http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=7290.0

Sorry Michael,  I missed it when it was first posted.

Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on October 11, 2020, 11:56:16 PM
BS tires weren't that wide then. Are they fiberglass? Shelby or anyone else at the time would have used steel as that was required by all sanctioning bodies at the time for racing. Also by that time Shelby American as we know it was gone and I don't believe that Shelby Racing Company was doing any outside work. Galpin also had at that time as today had a very capable custom shop. Gardena was the tire warehouse. Shelby always kept the tire business/location separate from the others. It might have stemmed from when he was originally at Moon Equipment selling GoodYears out the back door while Dean was selling Firestones out the front. Neither tire company was happy when they found out and told them to separate or lose their franchises. Shelby Racing was in Torrance (If I remember) today it's a paint company.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: Bob Gaines on October 12, 2020, 12:44:51 AM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on October 11, 2020, 11:56:16 PM
BS tires weren't that wide then. Are they fiberglass? Shelby or anyone else at the time would have used steel as that was required by all sanctioning bodies at the time for racing. Also by that time Shelby American as we know it was gone and I don't believe that Shelby Racing Company was doing any outside work. Galpin also had at that time as today had a very capable custom shop. Gardena was the tire warehouse. Shelby always kept the tire business/location separate from the others. It might have stemmed from when he was originally at Moon Equipment selling GoodYears out the back door while Dean was selling Firestones out the front. Neither tire company was happy when they found out and told them to separate or lose their franchises. Shelby Racing was in Torrance (If I remember) today it's a paint company.
The Maier Racing flares were fiberglass sections that are bonded onto the sheet metal factory quarters . They were apparently copied from the look of what was used on the 68 Shelby TA competition cars. The Shelby racing team had sheet metal quarter panels made with the pronounce flair especially for that purpose . The quarters were added to the car during race prep. The same with the front fenders. 
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: 2112 on October 12, 2020, 02:02:29 AM
Quote from: BGlover67 on October 11, 2020, 07:41:07 PM
Quote from: 2112 on October 11, 2020, 02:08:48 PM
video here;

http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=7290.0

Sorry Michael,  I missed it when it was first posted.

No need to apologize to me. I would have just linked the video but I wasn't the original poster so I wanted to give credit where it was due.

Still an interesting tale.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: shelbymann1970 on October 12, 2020, 07:42:45 AM
Maybe someone here can shed some light on a few things. When I first heard that SAAC became aware of Shelby paperwork up in the attic of his Gardena location(Late 90s??) and SAAC members went out there a few times to sift through the paperwork  would paperwork of cars like this done be in those documents or did SAAC guys only concentrate on cars and vins paperwork? Second WTH is up with the camera case dash, 120MPH speedo and no tach? First "real" 68 I have seen without that. I'm sure there are other little things that point out that this could be a fake? Gary
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: Coralsnake on October 12, 2020, 07:52:03 AM
Cars like this?

There are no "cars like this"

Its complete fabrication. The car was bought from the Hemmings parts section as a clapped out hulk. I really dont think you can concluded its fake. However, his idea of  "completely original" is a dream.

Its my understanding, SAAC has all of Shelbys existing paperwork.

I was trying to avoid the popular forum phraseology....this is an extraordinary claim.

"Carroll Shelby thought he remembered the car" is not proof.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: Bob Gaines on October 12, 2020, 05:18:45 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on October 12, 2020, 07:42:45 AM
Maybe someone here can shed some light on a few things. When I first heard that SAAC became aware of Shelby paperwork up in the attic of his Gardena location(Late 90s??) and SAAC members went out there a few times to sift through the paperwork  would paperwork of cars like this done be in those documents or did SAAC guys only concentrate on cars and vins paperwork? Second WTH is up with the camera case dash, 120MPH speedo and no tach? First "real" 68 I have seen without that. I'm sure there are other little things that point out that this could be a fake? Gary
I got the impression that they got all that they could at that opportune time and were not sifting through looking for specific VIN numbers and such. Just getting as much boxed up for transport as logistics allowed to go through later when they could take a breath.Maybe others have more specifics.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: gt350hr on October 13, 2020, 12:35:18 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on October 11, 2020, 12:13:02 PM
Well, this is important information.  Shelby was modifying cars in Gardena in 1968?

Can anyone support that claim?

     Pete,
       The "Gardena" building Shelby is in now WASN'T there in '68!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Being a local has "some" advantages. Shelby Racing Co. ( on 190th) did NOT do ANY custom work , it was strictly the race shop.
   Tall boots are needed for this car the steaming pile is DEEP.
   Randy
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: Coralsnake on October 13, 2020, 01:06:02 PM
Thanks, I suspected as much
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: 8T03S1425 on October 13, 2020, 05:26:37 PM
More often than not, when a Shelby is the subject of a feature article, it's identified with the last 4 digits of it Shelby VIN. It's a simple identification and is usually the 1st question asked and answered, with pride, among enthusiasts. What's the car's number? Absent of that information, especially if it's in different configuration than a typical example, I don't think there is any insult in considering it a nicely modified Mustang. This one seems to be a nicely modified Mustang, with some skilled workmanship, that looks like a Shelby. The owner should be prideful of that.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: Coralsnake on October 13, 2020, 05:34:45 PM
I believe the Shelby number is in plain view, see the license plate number!

I agree no shame in the modifications, its promoting the story that is at issue.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: 8T03S1425 on October 13, 2020, 07:26:57 PM
Ahhh, my (normally) astute powers of observation failed me.

Yeah, I agree that some parts of the story are a bit tough to believe as true.

Considering the coin he dropped into the car, I'm surprised that he didn't keep performance gauges in their dash locations, even if he kept the camera case finish. I don't get putting a tach where a passenger's calf would be. I also think that Lucas fogs would look better.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby GT350, Flares all around done by Shelby???
Post by: honker on October 13, 2020, 08:45:07 PM
Just for reference  ;) here's a '70 with Maier flares, rear & front ? ? the photo on track is at Elkhart Lake in 1981. Not sure when the pic with the flares roughed in was taken. This car is still around, ran at Elkhart this fall 2020, any one know it ?

Mike