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The Cars => 1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 => Topic started by: eric lipper on October 19, 2020, 10:02:52 PM

Title: Times have Changed
Post by: eric lipper on October 19, 2020, 10:02:52 PM
Took the 69 Shelby Convertible to a Mustang Club of Houston show this past weekend.  There was a very nice 68 Shelby Convertible, a 68 Shelby Fastback and a 67 Shelby Fastback.  Oddly the Shelby was in a group of Shelby's which included several 2007 - 2019 versions.  There was a first, second and third place for the judges and nothing older than 1978 got a trophy.  I knew I was in trouble when the Judge asked me if a GT500 has 500 horsepower.  The real tragedy was that they gave first place in the Shelby class to my 1978 King Cobra because they did not believe that it was a Mustang >:(
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: CharlesTurner on October 19, 2020, 10:16:16 PM
Usually these kind of shows it's best to enter the car as display-only.  Show support for the local club and their charity and enjoy the day worry-free. 
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: trotrof1 on October 19, 2020, 10:25:08 PM
Hey at least you participated in a show, all my planned events got axed this year.
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: 557 on October 19, 2020, 10:47:50 PM
Bottom line is you have a very cool car which is "show worthy"...Also rare so most people aren't "up to speed" on it.Dont worry,be happy 8)
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: 427hunter on October 20, 2020, 01:45:15 AM
No way boy's - I agree with Eric that's a S#!% show vs a car show. I would venture to guess the currant demographics in Houston does not help matters  ::)
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: 2112 on October 20, 2020, 02:19:38 AM
When I was in my 20's I had zero interest in 50-year-old cars from the '30s.

Still don't.
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: trotrof1 on October 20, 2020, 05:33:29 AM
Duesenburgs,Cord,Pierce Arrow,Twin Aix Packards, nothing there?
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: Greg on October 20, 2020, 08:39:53 AM
All the more reason for folks to get their cars out and show them and drive them.  Far to long have folks just put them in the garage and kept them as museum pieces afraid to get them dirty.  I promise when you are dead and gone the car will still be here and probably getting driven.... think about that... . 

If you bought them for an investment and care about their prices, then you have to invest in showing them to peak the interest of the younger generation.  Remember for most of us, that is exactly what happened.  You saw the car on the street and wanted to learn more and you worked hard to get one.
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: eric lipper on October 20, 2020, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: 427hunter on October 20, 2020, 01:45:15 AM
No way boy's - I agree with Eric that's a S#!% show vs a car show. I would venture to guess the currant demographics in Houston does not help matters  ::)

Looks like you have 853 and I have 889 -- almost family.
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: rhjanes on October 20, 2020, 10:06:15 AM
I'd be curious to see the list of "classes" you had to choose from.

Clubs putting on small shows are often stuck combining classes.  They often change from meet to meet as they look to see who all is showing up at their shows.  The more late model cars showing up, means the more classes in those.  My local clubs often have a "Mustang Pre 1978" class and then a few classes covering the later Mustangs.  I don't blame them as they might, MIGHT have 7 pre 73 Mustangs show up (and we are a Mustang club), then they will have 20 from 2000 to date. 
So was there a "Shelby" class?  Or some "Modified" which meant your Shelby and Cobra II wound up in the same class, along with modified cars.  Perhaps they had a "Hot Rod" class also.  It's always a Cr*P shoot on where to put your car.  My friend with a heavily modified 1970 Mach, looks for the class that is "modified" or "hot rod" or "Performance Car" classes.  I decided long ago, to just put mine into the closest "Mustang" class I could and enjoy being out and not worry about any trophy.  Which are up in the attic anyway.  Or as stated, drive over, put it in "Display" and leave 20 minutes before they even begin any awards. 
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: roddster on October 20, 2020, 10:17:31 AM
   Well, I know if you go to enough car shows, this kind of thing will happen.  I love it when at a popular vote type show, some car (doesn't matter what kind) will show up with an hour left in judging...and still trophies in a popular class.  You know the "fix" was in.
   I tropied one time at an auto shop show put on by the High School I went to.  I got the "Aldermans Award"  Why?  Because I happened to write on the show card "Class of 1970"......
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: 69mach351w on October 20, 2020, 10:37:49 AM
Eric,

Go to these kind of shows to have fun, talk to other Shelby/Mustang enthusiast and eat you a funnel cake ;D

BTW, you have an AWESOME Shelby.....500 and a convt to boot?....NIIICE 8)

I always had a soft spot for the '79 Pace car and the 78 King Cobra ;D
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: 427hunter on October 20, 2020, 10:49:58 AM
Quote from: eric lipper on October 20, 2020, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: 427hunter on October 20, 2020, 01:45:15 AM
No way boy's - I agree with Eric that's a S#!% show vs a car show. I would venture to guess the currant demographics in Houston does not help matters  ::)

Looks like you have 853 and I have 889 -- almost family.

Yes - btw is 889 an over-ride car also?
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: shelbymann1970 on October 20, 2020, 12:35:07 PM
Quote from: CharlesTurner on October 19, 2020, 10:16:16 PM
Usually these kind of shows it's best to enter the car as display-only.  Show support for the local club and their charity and enjoy the day worry-free.
I used to do that with the local club but they got greedy and upped the display by 350% to matched the "judged" cost(500 percent the first year in 2014). Since I don't like the President quit going to the show(not the only one). Largest Mustang show because they attract 900 late models for the most part if not more. I'm not talking about our local Shelby club I have supported for a long time. BTW the club I don't support anymore I used to be heavily involved in when it was a non profit and we donated to charity. It gave up it's non profit many years ago I'm told. So the "charity" you donate to is the board of the club to do as they see fit... Trophies, don't need them, don't want them, don't have room for them. That is why I like cruise-in and display only.
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: shelbymann1970 on October 20, 2020, 12:37:06 PM
Quote from: 2112 on October 20, 2020, 02:19:38 AM
When I was in my 20's I had zero interest in 50-year-old cars from the '30s.

Still don't.
Yeah, but back then you had cool timeless Muscle cars. Gary
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: 2112 on October 20, 2020, 01:15:03 PM
Quote from: trotrof1 on October 20, 2020, 05:33:29 AM
Duesenburgs,Cord,Pierce Arrow,Twin Aix Packards, nothing there?

No, not really. Even now that I am an old guy.

Quote from: shelbymann1970 on October 20, 2020, 12:37:06 PM

Yeah, but back then you had cool timeless Muscle cars. Gary

Exactly.
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: eric lipper on October 20, 2020, 01:25:24 PM
Quote from: 427hunter on October 20, 2020, 10:49:58 AM
Quote from: eric lipper on October 20, 2020, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: 427hunter on October 20, 2020, 01:45:15 AM
No way boy's - I agree with Eric that's a S#!% show vs a car show. I would venture to guess the currant demographics in Houston does not help matters  ::)

Looks like you have 853 and I have 889 -- almost family.

Yes - btw is 889 an over-ride car also?

Yep.  Over-ride, Ray Brown, button top fuel pump and aluminum case trans.  My car was even sold new with the ten spokes and it still rides on those wheels. 
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: 6S1568 on October 20, 2020, 04:36:26 PM
Beautiful collection, and I guess you like the color red, me too..................Thanks for posting Eric!
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: 427hunter on October 20, 2020, 11:42:11 PM
Quote from: eric lipper on October 20, 2020, 01:25:24 PM
Quote from: 427hunter on October 20, 2020, 10:49:58 AM
Quote from: eric lipper on October 20, 2020, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: 427hunter on October 20, 2020, 01:45:15 AM
No way boy's - I agree with Eric that's a S#!% show vs a car show. I would venture to guess the currant demographics in Houston does not help matters  ::)

Looks like you have 853 and I have 889 -- almost family.

Yes - btw is 889 an over-ride car also?

Yep.  Over-ride, Ray Brown, button top fuel pump and aluminum case trans.  My car was even sold new with the ten spokes and it still rides on those wheels.


Very interesting - factory stripes as well? If so they are almost twins..
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: eric lipper on October 21, 2020, 07:33:47 AM
Quote from: 427hunter on October 20, 2020, 11:42:11 PM
Quote from: eric lipper on October 20, 2020, 01:25:24 PM
Quote from: 427hunter on October 20, 2020, 10:49:58 AM
Quote from: eric lipper on October 20, 2020, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: 427hunter on October 20, 2020, 01:45:15 AM
No way boy's - I agree with Eric that's a S#!% show vs a car show. I would venture to guess the currant demographics in Houston does not help matters  ::)

Looks like you have 853 and I have 889 -- almost family.

Yes - btw is 889 an over-ride car also?

Yep.  Over-ride, Ray Brown, button top fuel pump and aluminum case trans.  My car was even sold new with the ten spokes and it still rides on those wheels.


Very interesting - factory stripes as well? If so they are almost twins..

Factory stripes as well.  Paid the extra $50.  See attached
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: FL SAAC on October 21, 2020, 09:45:00 AM
As the great prophet Dylan sung "For the times they are a-changin"

Quote from: eric lipper on October 19, 2020, 10:02:52 PM
Took the 69 Shelby Convertible to a Mustang Club of Houston show this past weekend.  There was a very nice 68 Shelby Convertible, a 68 Shelby Fastback and a 67 Shelby Fastback.  Oddly the Shelby was in a group of Shelby's which included several 2007 - 2019 versions.  There was a first, second and third place for the judges and nothing older than 1978 got a trophy.  I knew I was in trouble when the Judge asked me if a GT500 has 500 horsepower.  The real tragedy was that they gave first place in the Shelby class to my 1978 King Cobra because they did not believe that it was a Mustang >:(
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: 427hunter on October 21, 2020, 11:36:52 AM
Quote from: eric lipper on October 21, 2020, 07:33:47 AM
Quote from: 427hunter on October 20, 2020, 11:42:11 PM
Quote from: eric lipper on October 20, 2020, 01:25:24 PM
Quote from: 427hunter on October 20, 2020, 10:49:58 AM
Quote from: eric lipper on October 20, 2020, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: 427hunter on October 20, 2020, 01:45:15 AM
No way boy's - I agree with Eric that's a S#!% show vs a car show. I would venture to guess the currant demographics in Houston does not help matters  ::)

Looks like you have 853 and I have 889 -- almost family.

Yes - btw is 889 an over-ride car also?

Yep.  Over-ride, Ray Brown, button top fuel pump and aluminum case trans.  My car was even sold new with the ten spokes and it still rides on those wheels.


Very interesting - factory stripes as well? If so they are almost twins..

Factory stripes as well.  Paid the extra $50.  See attached

They are almost the identical...
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: Greg on October 21, 2020, 01:55:41 PM
I have 1078, a Red one with under rides.
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: 67 GT350 on October 22, 2020, 11:30:43 AM
When I was 18 to 27, I cared about the trophy. I would polish and clean my car and picked up my trophy at the end of the show and go home, nobody cared.

I have not gone or brought a car to a show since that time. Maybe it will be fun again someday soon, if I go today, I would prefer not to be judged, voted, for any such thing. I just assume park it in the parking area.

Don't need a trophy. I got one from SAAC years ago and its all good. Got many from regional Mustang/SAAC events......I'm good, thanks!

"Not that there is anything wrong with that"
Title: Re: Times have Changed
Post by: 68gtcoupe on October 22, 2020, 02:10:33 PM
I love driving my '68 Mustang GT coupe but I'm not all that into bringing it to static shows (but I do like a good car cruise/driving event).  It has various dents, dings and scratches, needs bodywork and paint, it's missing various pieces of trim, the rear quarters are in primer, the hood is black (the rest of the car is yellow and the paint job sucks), it squeaky, loud and generally less than pleasant but bearable on a trip over about 50-75 miles.  But it seems to draw a crowd when I have it out and I like talking to folks about it.  Not sure I'll ever do much more with it cosmetically.  Just happy to be in the hobby that has brought my joy for almost 50 years now.