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This 1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 was sold new by Nagle Ford in Rochester, New York, and was purchased by the seller's father from the original owner in 1984. After the car failed a New York state inspection in 2000 due to underbody rust, the seller's father placed it in storage in his garage, where it remained until his passing in 2018. A 289ci V8 and four-speed manual transmission remain fitted, and the car retains its original color combination of blue with white stripes over a black interior. Additional equipment includes a four-barrel Holley carburetor, aluminum 10-spoke wheels, and a fold-down rear seat. This non-running GT350 project is now offered by the seller on behalf of his father's estate with its original owner identification card, an owner's manual, a spare door, and transferable New York registration.
The exterior is finished in Sapphire Blue and features Wimbledon White Le Mans stripes and white side stripes with "G.T. 350" script. Exterior features include a steel-framed fiberglass hood with a scoop, functional brake-cooling scoops on the rear quarter panels, and plexiglass rear quarter windows. Rust is noted on the lower doors, rocker panels, and lower front fenders, as shown in the photo gallery below along with other areas of corrosion. The seller also notes two dents in the rear taillight panel, as well as wear in the chrome finish on the bumpers and rear emblem. A spare driver's door from a 1965-66 Mustang is included in the sale.
Aluminum 14″ wheels were optional for 1966 Shelby Mustangs and here wear older BFGoodrich Radial T/A tires. A matching spare is retained in the trunk and wears a Goodyear Blue Streak tire. The GT350's braking system incorporates Kelsey-Hayes discs up front, along with larger rear drums than standard Mustang models. The seller notes that the brake pedal is frozen.
The cabin is trimmed in black knit vinyl over the front bucket seats and optional fold-down rear seat. The black carpeting has degraded in areas of the front footwells and behind the front seats. Lap belts are in place for all four occupants.
A three-spoke steering wheel is retained but exhibits a gap in the rim. Instrumentation includes a 140-mph speedometer flanked by gauges for fuel level, oil pressure, amperage, and coolant temperature. A Shelby 9k-rpm tachometer is retained on top of the dash above an AM radio. The five-digit odometer shows 95k miles.
The 289ci HiPo V8 features a Holley 715CFM four-barrel carburetor and is mated to a four-speed manual transmission. The car has not been started since 2000, and the engine and other components will require mechanical attention before the car can be returned to the road.
Underbody rust includes holes in the floorboards and frame rails, and additional closeups of the corrosion are provided in the gallery below.
The owner identification card lists the original selling dealer as Nagle Ford in Rochester, New York. An entry for the car in the 1997 Shelby American Automobile Club Registry is shown in the gallery below, as is an included GT350 owner's manual.
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It is going to take some love but it will be a nice car when done. I wonder if it still has its original/born with drive train?
Replacement Shelby VIN tag that is smaller than original with rivet hole exposed. Where is original tag? 8)
you have good eyes, I also thought it looks wrong.
If you look at the pics of the car it has SAAC stickers on it so it is probably a known car to Howard? I wonder if the numbers have been verified? Hopefully the seller will or has done that. Gary
Quote from: Don Johnston on October 22, 2020, 07:32:59 PM
Replacement Shelby VIN tag that is smaller than original with rivet hole exposed. Where is original tag? 8)
Probably corroded beyond recognition and no longer legible based on what the rest of the car looks like.
I found a picture of the car in the Shelby American - volume 5, issue 4.
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/44-231020100650.jpeg)
NOT for the faint on heart.......
53k with 5 days to go.... wow! Without significant bracing , that car won't survive rotisserie mounting , never mind an acid dip . Gonna take a big wallet to bring this one back.... but someone is obviously willing to try :)
Quote from: corbins on October 24, 2020, 07:00:05 PM
Without significant bracing , that car won't survive rotisserie mounting , never mind an acid dip .
If it gets' loaded on the tail of the transporter and a bumpy ride a significant portion might be missing upon delivery! ::)
Scott.
Three rolls of duck tape, some 2x4s and lots of rope should do it! Oh, and broom and dust pan for following support vehicle crew.
When it gets restored, the story of the process would be interesting.
The best way to handle this project would be to get a rust free 66 SJ built mustang coupe and basically hang the Shelby body and numbers on the roller. Otherwise you will end up with a Ricksha ::)
Looking at the pictures I mentally tabulate the hours, days and month's on just what is needed repair wise just based on a few pictures. A first hand visit of the Shelby would be the best way to assess the extent of damage and determine the best course of action.
I have a feeling, as in most rusty cars, we are only seeing the "tip of the iceberg" on this one.
Here is the answer to saving this fine automobile.
Quote from: BGlover67 on October 25, 2020, 12:28:20 PM
Here is the answer to saving this fine automobile.
Hilarious Brian!
Isn't this gentleman a world renowned restorer and saac judge ????
Quote from: BGlover67 on October 25, 2020, 12:28:20 PM
Here is the answer to saving this fine automobile.
Quote from: FL SAAC on October 25, 2020, 12:59:41 PM
Isn't this gentleman a world renowned restorer and saac judge ????
Quote from: BGlover67 on October 25, 2020, 12:28:20 PM
Here is the answer to saving this fine automobile.
Not sure about being a Judge, but definitely a rare Shelby parts seller and a master with a Sharpie.
I have seen a whole lot worse restored, there are a lot of rare parts still with this car so at least the new owner isn't starting over in finding $$$$ parts.
This car is for the person that can do and enjoys doing the metal work themselves and is proficient in doing it correctly.
Quote from: Greg on October 25, 2020, 02:13:23 PM
I have seen a whole lot worse restored, there are a lot of rare parts still with this car so at least the new owner isn't starting over in finding $$$$ parts.
This car if for the person that can do and enjoys doing the metal work themselves and is proficient in doing it correctly.
+1
The best way to attempt repairing the metal is to find a nice '66 San Jose coupe with a close scheduled build date. Save as much of the sheet metal panels on the Shelby as possible by patching where it makes sense. Cut out and replace areas too far gone with sections from the coupe... i.e. full floor, frame rails, rockers... This will require an enormous amount of time, paying a shop to do it would be extremely expensive.
Quote from: Greg on October 25, 2020, 02:13:23 PM
I have seen a whole lot worse restored, there are a lot of rare parts still with this car so at least the new owner isn't starting over in finding $$$$ parts.
This car if for the person that can do and enjoys doing the metal work themselves and is proficient in doing it correctly.
Agree completely. Don't forget the Hertz pulled out of the dirt in the last year or so that was so bad it almost broke in half... "praise the lord let's save that Ford"
Quote from: GT350Lad on October 25, 2020, 03:32:53 PM
Quote from: Greg on October 25, 2020, 02:13:23 PM
I have seen a whole lot worse restored, there are a lot of rare parts still with this car so at least the new owner isn't starting over in finding $$$$ parts.
This car if for the person that can do and enjoys doing the metal work themselves and is proficient in doing it correctly.
Agree completely. Don't forget the Hertz pulled out of the dirt in the last year or so that was so bad it almost broke in half... "praise the lord let's save that Ford"
Ironically, the number for that car was 1431.
Quote from: Sfm6sxxx on October 25, 2020, 08:33:31 PM
Quote from: GT350Lad on October 25, 2020, 03:32:53 PM
Quote from: Greg on October 25, 2020, 02:13:23 PM
I have seen a whole lot worse restored, there are a lot of rare parts still with this car so at least the new owner isn't starting over in finding $$$$ parts.
This car if for the person that can do and enjoys doing the metal work themselves and is proficient in doing it correctly.
Agree completely. Don't forget the Hertz pulled out of the dirt in the last year or so that was so bad it almost broke in half... "praise the lord let's save that Ford"
Ironically, the number for that car was 1431.
The one pulled out of the dirt in Ohio was not 1431 it's 1582, the pictures of the restored car shown at the end of the YouTube video were 1431 (my car). I collected sheet metal and other OEM and NOS parts for 30 years before starting to restore, car had lots of rust from being a daily driver for years.
The car on BaT is bad, but I've seen worse but it will take a lot of time to get it done right
There are a lot of original parts on the car on BaT
I agree. Its best to leave restorations and restoration advice to people that have experience in those areas. You can share your opinion, but if its not based off actual experience its not as valuable. There are some that enjoy the journey.
Same goes for the burned 1969. Just my opinion, others may feel differently.
This car, the other car in the mud and the BBQ special, all need LARGE CASH INFUSIONS plus TIME, lots of TIME.
Money has a present value and so does time.
At the end of the journey he or she will look back and realize that for less money they could gave been riding and enjoying a S H E L B Y all that lost time.
A very wise old man once told me " el tiempo perdido hasta los muertos lo lloran" did not get in then, but its very clear to me now.
Adios
Quote from: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on October 26, 2020, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: Sfm6sxxx on October 25, 2020, 08:33:31 PM
Quote from: GT350Lad on October 25, 2020, 03:32:53 PM
Quote from: Greg on October 25, 2020, 02:13:23 PM
I have seen a whole lot worse restored, there are a lot of rare parts still with this car so at least the new owner isn't starting over in finding $$$$ parts.
This car if for the person that can do and enjoys doing the metal work themselves and is proficient in doing it correctly.
Agree completely. Don't forget the Hertz pulled out of the dirt in the last year or so that was so bad it almost broke in half... "praise the lord let's save that Ford"
Ironically, the number for that car was 1431.
The one pulled out of the dirt in Ohio was not 1431 it's 1582, the pictures of the restored car shown at the end of the YouTube video were 1431 (my car). I collected sheet metal and other OEM and NOS parts for 30 years before starting to restore, car had lots of rust from being a daily driver for years.
The car on BaT is bad, but I've seen worse but it will take a lot of time to get it done right
There are a lot of original parts on the car on BaT
Wrong Intake its a repop S1ms, replacement carb alt pulley wrong. Unusable steering wheel. List goes on. Look closely at the stamped 6S# that is not a 13 looks like 17 traction bars rusted off the rear frames. Its sad what we used to pay for very clean cars and what is out there now to choose from. At much higher. prices. I could do the work but what is the final product? A chopped rebuilt welded up Shelby. And could you take it out and really drive it? Good luck to the new owner.
It all depends on your skill level and desire to do a project. Realistically, this car could be done right in less than three years by someone and done at a reasonable cost, IF you have the skill to do it yourself and consider the process fun.
This is not the car for someone that can only write checks or you will be really frustrated and upside down at a rate of $3-4000 per week for 52 weeks at best.
The person that buys this will have the skill to do so and will have fun doing it.
+1 👍
I would hope a perspective buyer would ask the seller if in fact the motor is free and will turn over. To my knowledge that hasn't been established.
I agree with Mr. Turner. A rust free donor would be great. I have restored several Mustangs And Shelbys over the years. Spent 3 years restoring a K code 66 GT convertible. Traded that for #750 A 66 Shelby. Would love to restore this car. But would have to be sure the numbers add up. Never paid a shop so dont know the cost. It does have some good parts, not all bad. But myself I would have to verify all serial #s with Howard before a purchase. I think they all should be saved.
I'm friends with a gentleman who runs a great restoration shop with an excellent reputation near me. I've seen that he is smart enough to acquire cars like this or the Bar-b-que special for a decent price and just sit on them. Eventually, their value will justify a full on restoration, but not now. You'd probably do better than parking your money in a savings account.
Quote from: Greg on October 26, 2020, 10:42:30 AM
It all depends on your skill level and desire to do a project. Realistically, this car could be done right in less than three years by someone and done at a reasonable cost, IF you have the skill to do it yourself and consider the process fun.
This is not the car for someone that can only write checks or you will be really frustrated and upside down at a rate of $3-4000 per week for 52 weeks at best.
The person that buys this will have the skill to do so and will have fun doing it.
You bring up excellent points
Your skill level is worth $ multiply that times your man hours. If i had to guess you would have what ever the acquisition cost will be + $150 if not close to $200k in parts and labor.
Whats the present day value of one of these already driving, no rust ( not concourse) and reliable that you can enjoy now?
Betcha its a lots less than restoring these....
Others mention finding another donor vehicle ( body swap) or dynacorning it. Then you would not truly have a Shelby, just a stang with Shelby numbers that you transfered.
Folks everyone on this site should know better and would probably stay away from all these cars.
Those who would want you to proceed must have an interest in selling you all the needed parts or offering you their restoration services.
Unless you have a sentimental value or attachment to it, or it truly is a one of one i.e. lil red or the only 1967 convertible etc. Then and only then you take the dive and restore it any any cost.
But these are not those one of ones....time waits for no one, gota go something just bit my line....
Here's your San Jose donor if you on the east coast
but with a 29J date wouldn't be date correct
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-Ford-Mustang-Pony-Interior/124389552199?
Some enjoy the restoration route, whether doing a substantial amount of the work themselves or acting as the general contractor. Some don't look at is as an investment or financial move, and do it solely for the love of the car and the work. We can be thankful for many of the restored cars that we have bought and enjoyed, as these individuals who are not money or time motivated brought them to us in the way that we enjoy them, as already restored cars.
Quote from: shelbyluva on October 26, 2020, 02:31:41 PM
Some enjoy the restoration route, whether doing a substantial amount of the work themselves or acting as the general contractor. Some don't look at is as an investment or financial move, and do it solely for the love of the car and the work. We can be thankful for many of the restored cars that we have bought and enjoyed, as these individuals who are not money or time motivated brought them to us in the way that we enjoy them, as already restored cars.
I totaly agree , and if every body was doing things only with money motivations we wouldn't be on this forum now !
Quote from: BGlover67 on October 25, 2020, 12:28:20 PM
Here is the answer to saving this fine automobile.
Now that is funny!
The only thing missing on this car is the barnacles.
I have restored several Mustangs and Shelby's and have the skills to
do most of the work myself and have always done it for the love of the cars first. As the cars have
increased in value you can no longer ignore the money aspect of it. It is a beautiful car but will always have a
rusty history and possibly a replacement tag. It is an affordable way for someone to buy their dream car
who otherwise could not ever own one, and I believe that is the kind of buyer it will take. I just hope they
can do the work themselves otherwise they will be hopelessly upside down. What usually happens is someone
thinks they have the skills to do it but once taken apart they give up and the car sits for 30 more years. There are
plenty of skilled metal workers who could save it. the car deserves to be saved and restored , good luck to whomever
gets it , they will find many here who have been there done that and can help with advice and services.
It strikes me as odd that the tag was replaced, it appears, a long time ago???
Best of luck to the seller and the buyer. Love the car, but both will need it.
jpd
Very eloquently expressed and we agree with your sentiments
Quote from: shelbyhertz66 on October 27, 2020, 10:26:59 AM
The only thing missing on this car is the barnacles.
I have restored several Mustangs and Shelby's and have the skills to
do most of the work myself and have always done it for the love of the cars first. As the cars have
increased in value you can no longer ignore the money aspect of it. It is a beautiful car but will always have a
rusty history and possibly a replacement tag. It is an affordable way for someone to buy their dream car
who otherwise could not ever own one, and I believe that is the kind of buyer it will take. I just hope they
can do the work themselves otherwise they will be hopelessly upside down. What usually happens is someone
thinks they have the skills to do it but once taken apart they give up and the car sits for 30 more years. There are
plenty of skilled metal workers who could save it. the car deserves to be saved and restored , good luck to whomever
gets it , they will find many here who have been there done that and can help with advice and services.
Quote from: shelbyhertz66 on October 27, 2020, 10:26:59 AM
The only thing missing on this car is the barnacles.
I have restored several Mustangs and Shelby's and have the skills to
do most of the work myself and have always done it for the love of the cars first. As the cars have
increased in value you can no longer ignore the money aspect of it. It is a beautiful car but will always have a
rusty history and possibly a replacement tag. It is an affordable way for someone to buy their dream car
who otherwise could not ever own one, and I believe that is the kind of buyer it will take. I just hope they
can do the work themselves otherwise they will be hopelessly upside down. What usually happens is someone
thinks they have the skills to do it but once taken apart they give up and the car sits for 30 more years. There are
plenty of skilled metal workers who could save it. the car deserves to be saved and restored , good luck to whomever
gets it , they will find many here who have been there done that and can help with advice and services.
:D :D :D
Build apartments if you want to become wealthy.
Cars for me are a hobby.
I have a few and never planned to make any money on them.
I built myself 100 apartments since 2010 and have done well so I can afford to buy more cars.
I built a FFR Cobra in 1998/99 and that was fun. Building 100 apartments was just as much fun since I was the Engineer
and general contractor. The apartments are a hobby. My Engineering practice is my full time deal.
A Shelby Mustang restoration like this 1966 would be fun as well.
MM
Wow! Big money at $98500!
Well sold.
Add to that $98,500 a buyer's premium of 5% or just shy of $5K. I'm still scratching my bald head trying to figure out how the buyer will come out down the road in a few years. Perhaps they have a '66 San Jose' fastback roller sitting in the back of their garage.
This will be the first 1966 that will be over $300K if properly done, congratulations to the lucky seller !
Quote from: GT350Lad on October 29, 2020, 04:23:07 PM
Wow! Big money at $98500!
Quote from: FL SAAC on October 29, 2020, 05:12:38 PM
This will be the first 1966 that will be over $300K if properly done, congratulations to the lucky seller !
Think that might be the cost of doing the car especially if farmed out and in the end it will likely be a collection of parts rather than something that reflects what an original car would look like. Time will tell but believe money could have been better spent with another choice. Just an opinion
Unless I am missing something, this car can be restored pretty easily by someone that has the tools and knows how. I think where folks get tripped up is because they have to pay someone to do it. If that is your circumstance then no, this particular car doesn't make sense for you. The days of finding a rusty 66 for $15k was 20 years ago.
Mr Speegle, looks like we are on the same wave length. Been to a few rodeos and I am done with romanticism. Many call me blunt, but at this point in my life, I am not running for office.
1 Your labor (even if you know how to do it) has a value
2 The time to do it ( time away from your job, family, etc) you are exchanging this for that. You will never ever regain it
3 present value of your 98,500 ($100k) money that you will have tied up until you finish your work of art. What 2, 3, 4, 5 years
4 plus the additional fund's to resurrect this zombie
5 end of journey you will be at or close to $300K
Oh but the satisfaction of doing it.....please ❗🤣😂🤣 LMAO
I rather shell out $125 / 150,000 today and ride today. Tomorrow is definitely not guaranteed
Again congratulations to the seller!
Quote from: J_Speegle on October 29, 2020, 05:39:23 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on October 29, 2020, 05:12:38 PM
This will be the first 1966 that will be over $300K if properly done, congratulations to the lucky seller !
Think that might be the cost of doing the car especially if farmed out and in the end it will likely be a collection of parts rather than something that reflects what an original car would look like. Time will tell but believe money could have been better spent with another choice. Just an opinion
Quote from: FL SAAC on October 29, 2020, 05:59:31 PM
Mr Speegle, looks like we are on the same wave length. Been to a few rodeos and I am done with romanticism. Many call me blunt, but at this point in my life, I am not running for office.
1 Your labor (even if you know how to do it) has a value
2 The time to do it ( time away from your job, family, etc) you are exchanging this for that. You will never ever regain it
3 present value of your 98,500 ($100k) money that you will have tied up until you finish your work of art. What 2, 3, 4, 5 years
4 plus the additional fund's to resurrect this zombie
5 end of journey you will be at or close to $300K
Oh but the satisfaction of doing it.....please ❗🤣😂🤣 LMAO
I rather shell out $125 / 150,000 today and ride today. Tomorrow is definitely not guaranteed
Again congratulations to the seller!
Quote from: J_Speegle on October 29, 2020, 05:39:23 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on October 29, 2020, 05:12:38 PM
This will be the first 1966 that will be over $300K if properly done, congratulations to the lucky seller !
Think that might be the cost of doing the car especially if farmed out and in the end it will likely be a collection of parts rather than something that reflects what an original car would look like. Time will tell but believe money could have been better spent with another choice. Just an opinion
Tony, I hear what you are saying but that also applies to the 8092 posts you present on here. There is a cost of your time and if you factored that, and the time it takes away from your family etc.. it really isn't worth it for you to be here.....Humm... see what I mean, because at the end of the day, you don't have any monetary gain to show for it, at least they (the new owners of this 66 do :-). Just because you have been down the restoration path and didn't enjoy doing so doesn't mean that others don't. Quite frankly how awesome would it be for the new owner and their teenage son/daughter to spend quality time bringing her back to life and having memories that last.
I had the opportunity to purchase some of the NOS parts that were gathered for this car by the sellers father some time before the estate made the decision to sell the car, it was well sold.
Quote from: Greg on October 29, 2020, 07:27:43 PM
Tony, I hear what you are saying but that also applies to the 8092 posts you present on here. There is a cost of your time and if you factored that, and the time it takes away from your family etc.. it really isn't worth it for you to be here.....Humm... see what I mean, because at the end of the day, you don't have any monetary gain to show for it, at least they (the new owners of this 66 do :-). Just because you have been down the restoration path and didn't enjoy doing so doesn't mean that others don't. Quite frankly how awesome would it be for the new owner and their teenage son/daughter to spend quality time bringing her back to life and having memories that last.
Very insightful.
QSS
Quote from: Blackcar on October 29, 2020, 08:47:04 PM
I had the opportunity to purchase some of the NOS parts that were gathered for this car by the sellers father some time before the estate made the decision to sell the car, it was well sold.
Blackcar do you know if the family decided or was told the car was too far gone which made their decision to sell off the parts and the car independently of each other? Certainly from a financial standpoint especially with this auction result a stroke of genius but I'm curious as to why they pulled the plug.
As an aside I also just today realized that I have spent far too many years preaching the importance of original metal!
-Colin
I will sit in the Church of originality all day long.
That selling price was eye opening. :o
Quote from: BGlover67 on October 30, 2020, 09:51:28 AM
That selling price was eye opening. :o
Guessing it was the color, transmission and matching numbers that pushed it that high?
Hopefully, it doesn't fall victim to the quick-and-dirty "REBODY" program. :o
It might prove interesting to see how long before it reappears in a "restored-original" condition for sale again. :-\
Scott.
Quote from: pbf777 on October 30, 2020, 11:54:26 AM
Hopefully, it doesn't fall victim to the quick-and-dirty "REBODY" program. :o
It might prove interesting to see how long before it reappears in a "restored-original" condition for sale again. :-\
Scott.
Yes, I too noticed all the advice from the BaT peanut gallery to rebody. Unfortunately the "R" word follows these cars like stink on a skunk (and rightfully so), so the future value will forever be greatly diminished.
Quote from: 2112 on October 30, 2020, 11:03:36 AM
Guessing it was the color, transmission and matching numbers that pushed it that high?
Won't be "matching numbers" after the rebuild one would assume. But of course it depends on your definition of the term. Like rebuilt, restored, original ...... they mean different things to different people
Re bodying this would be terrible in more than one way.
The original body or as much a possible needs to be retained and fixed , as
painful and drawn out as the procedure will be. If they choose the
easy way out they will regret it later. But wait there is always the survivor class.
I don't believe that selling price - if it's real lets see if the new owner shows up here or the car gets relisted...
SAAC decal adds priceless value. 8)
Quote from: shelbyhertz66 on October 30, 2020, 06:54:53 PM
Re bodying this would be terrible in more than one way.
The original body or as much a possible needs to be retained and fixed , as
painful and drawn out as the procedure will be. If they choose the
easy way out they will regret it later. But wait there is always the survivor class.
But did it really survive? Perhaps, perhaps not. I don't know. Either way I hope the buyer enjoys his new purchase. I too will be curious if the transaction actually goes thru.
Instead of a resto mod that is a rusto mod. How much is rust worth a pound? I think maybe will drive my cars in the salt. Should increase in value. Right?
Personally, if the buyer is real, I'm actually hoping they display the car "as is" and forget about a costly restoration.
SAAC can then open a new show category labeled "As Found" ;)
Bill
Ladies and gentlemen lets just wish the new buyer the very best wishes on an enjoyable restoration, that's all that matters
The buyer dropped about 100k for a presumably clean title to SFM6S1341, the bones of an original drivetrain, and a few other select items and his journey begins. I applaud him and wish him the very best. He owns 1341 despite all the snarkiness. He has bought in to the dream. Whether he 'restores' it or 'rebodies' it, it will be the same. 1341 brought back as best he can. What the F is wrong w that?
We got colleagues on here who drop 4x that and their cars are 'only' missing a 3939s, or a G2, better yet, periodically in the 65 world, we have these embarrassing arguments where the guys w original 'sheetmetal' (and wrong engine) wank against the guys who have their original engines but not their original 'sheetmetal'. OMFG!
It is truly too bad that 1341 was allowed to structurally degenerate to this deplorable state, but equally impressive that the market still has this respect for SAI. Get on the train where you can and do your best. I think it's really cool.
A lot of folks including me, missed out on "low" $ cars 20-30 years ago because we felt they were priced to high. For me, it was a British racing green 289 cobra for $75K from the original owner but at the time the price might as well been $7.5MUSD because I didn't have the money.
One thing I believe, the original cars regardless of condition will continue to rise over time because of the marque. But keep in mind, we have to show them, drive them and support the hobby so people see them out and about and the demand stays strong.
Quote from: camp upshur on November 01, 2020, 01:42:37 AM
The buyer dropped about 100k for a presumably clean title to SFM6S1341, the bones of an original drivetrain, and a few other select items and his journey begins. I applaud him and wish him the very best. He owns 1341 despite all the snarkiness. He has bought in to the dream. Whether he 'restores' it or 'rebodies' it, it will be the same. 1341 brought back as best he can. What the F is wrong w that?
We got colleagues on here who drop 4x that and their cars are 'only' missing a 3939s, or a G2, better yet, periodically in the 65 world, we have these embarrassing arguments where the guys w original 'sheetmetal' (and wrong engine) wank against the guys who have their original engines but not their original 'sheetmetal'. OMFG!
It is truly too bad that 1341 was allowed to structurally degenerate to this deplorable state, but equally impressive that the market still has this respect for SAI. Get on the train where you can and do your best. I think it's really cool.
+1 Lets hope the new owner becomes a SAAC member (if they aren't already a member) and gets the benefit of all the knowledge, experience and access to hard to find parts needed to get 1341 back to a roadworthy state, so they can enjoy it!
Just trying to add some humor with my earlier post. I have said before I think they all should be saved. It is only money, they print new every day. But the cars of the past are the what SA is all about . Lets face it this car will need a restoration. And it could be restored with all Ford sheet metal. And I hope the new owner can do most of the work . Just look at this forum, people here sell nos sheet metal all the time. Buy a CA. coupe and go at it. Wouldnt have to be a rebody. 6 months it could be on the road again.
Hopefully this can answer the "whys" as to why the buyer bought the car for that price. Gary
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on November 02, 2020, 06:58:42 AM
Hopefully this can answer the "whys" as to why the buyer bought the car for that price. Gary
That is a person that will love that car, it went to the right person!
Perfect match + 1
Quote from: Greg on November 02, 2020, 08:00:59 AM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on November 02, 2020, 06:58:42 AM
Hopefully this can answer the "whys" as to why the buyer bought the car for that price. Gary
That is a person that will love that car, it went to the right person!
Quote from: Greg on November 02, 2020, 08:00:59 AM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on November 02, 2020, 06:58:42 AM
Hopefully this can answer the "whys" as to why the buyer bought the car for that price. Gary
That is a person that will love that car, it went to the right person!
I have never bought a restored car in my life. Original cars yes but not restored. I restore my cars for better or for worse. :) . I KNOW what is done to them. Seems to me that is what this guy is talking about as his post can be taken the wrong way I think by some. He wants to make sure it is done right and he can control it from the beginning as you never know until later on if a car was "done right" unless it was done by those who have a spotless reputation for doing cars right. Gary
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on November 02, 2020, 08:38:26 AM
Quote from: Greg on November 02, 2020, 08:00:59 AM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on November 02, 2020, 06:58:42 AM
Hopefully this can answer the "whys" as to why the buyer bought the car for that price. Gary
That is a person that will love that car, it went to the right person!
I have never bought a restored car in my life. Original cars yes but not restored. I restore my cars for better or for worse. :) . I KNOW what is done to them. Seems to me that is what this guy is talking about as his post can be taken the wrong way I think by some. He wants to make sure it is done right and he can control it from the beginning as you never know until later on if a car was "done right" unless it was done by those who have a spotless reputation for doing cars right. Gary
+1
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on November 02, 2020, 06:58:42 AM
Hopefully this can answer the "whys" as to why the buyer bought the car for that price. Gary
That explains the purchase for me. Hope he joins the Forum and posts the process. I, for one, would enjoy seeing the transformation.
Greek
Quote from: greekz on November 02, 2020, 12:50:17 PM
That explains the purchase for me. Hope he joins the Forum and posts the process. I, for one, would enjoy seeing the transformation.
Greek
+1... he can avoid a lot of mistakes by leaning on SAAC to help guide him on the best way to approach this restoration. It's not going to be for the faint at heart and will require considerable resources (time/$$).
Another comment from the buyer on the BAT page. Seems that he will be approaching this car in a way we all like to see. Good deal, another one saved.
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