This winter I am removing the undercoating on my 68 GT350 and respraying the red oxide primer. There are 4 steps to the refinishing as I see it. The only step I am not 100% sure the order of is the application of the seam sealer. This is my guess as to the order of operation please let me know if this is correct or not.
1) Spray with red oxide epoxy primer
2) Seam seal
3) Body color overspray
4) rich weld blackout overspay
Thank you, Corey
Yes, that would be the correct order
Red primer? '68s only have that in certain areas like under the engine. Other areas are a batch grey that more closely resembles a mix of GM trunk spray and corrosion? I don't know how you replicate that?
The best illustration of it were the pictures of -00212 that were posted on Forum 1 and got lost in the crash.
The bottoms of my '68, -01107, look just like that. It does not look like the all red oxide like the '67s do.
Good luck with that. I have no idea how you accurately recreate it.
The 1968s I have seen used a reddish brown red oxide primer. I have seen a lot of 1968s and challenge you to post a gray primer car.
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Quote from: Coralsnake on January 17, 2021, 10:57:08 AM
The 1968s I have seen used a reddish brown red oxide primer. I have seen a lot of 1968s and challenge you to post a gray primer car.
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+1 . Dearborn cars were typically batch color/gray
I was going to challenge him to a duel, but my flint is worn
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Quote from: Coralsnake on January 17, 2021, 01:51:19 PM
I was going to challenge him to a duel, but my flint is worn
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i think this would be more apropriate. ;D
Quote from: Coralsnake on January 17, 2021, 10:57:08 AM
The 1968s I have seen used a reddish brown red oxide primer. I have seen a lot of 1968s and challenge you to post a gray primer car.
What I have seen and collected pictures of. The batch (often a dark gray/ blue or green tint) gray would be what was typically applied to the floors from the firewall rearward on 68 Dearborn cars as Bob wrote
Quote from: Coralsnake on January 17, 2021, 10:57:08 AM
The 1968s I have seen used a reddish brown red oxide primer. I have seen a lot of 1968s and challenge you to post a gray primer car.
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It's not a grey primer it's a rusty/greyish crud. It's only red primer under the front engine bracing.
As ususal, YOU"RE the expert and my car is a bullsh it phoney counterfeit along with Phil's -00212. But that's ok. Everyone knows that YOU know absolutely EVERYTHING about '68s.
You can show us a picture of the plaque that you had engraved for yourself that proves it! ;)
The color in the vicinity of the bell house is PINK. There are three sections to the color. It changes from front, to center, to rear near the axle where it is the crud color.
Phil's car is almost identical BUT the common denominator is they are both white cars.
Just post your pictures or post Phil's pictures that will solve it.
I never claimed to know everything, but I appreciate the compliments. I think there are going to be a lot of embarrassed 1968 judges.
Personally, I am always willing to learn.
If you would like, I can post some unrestored 1968s?
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1480 unrestored looks more red than gray to me?
(http://www.thecoralsnake.com/1480p.JPG)
3660 - before restoration looks red
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/8-170121164337.jpeg)
Unrestored 4114 hmm, this one is red oxide too?
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/8-170121164314.png)
88 looks a little darker, but it could be the lighting. Unrestored white car.
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/8-170121165110.jpeg)
One very IMHO slight possibility, not saying that this took place on your particular car since we've not seen pictures or the results of working down through layers of paint to the bare steel, but if the spray jets were not triggered or something happened during the process, a worker could have been assigned to repair/fix the mistake and coat the floor with another paint/coating that was available at another station after the floor coating application station. An important detail is that what ever is there should match another coating (paint/sealer/primer) that was applied on the same line. Have seen this done (other plant) on only a couple of cars.
What ever your seeing and if your restoring or investigating IMHO it's important to buff, rub or sand through each coating level to determine the order of application and the possibilities that someone has been there before you. Documenting with pictures as you go.
If they changed the typical floor coating to something else we should see other examples and this can be narrowed down since we have the real completion dates for cars. Might be able to find other examples finished on the same day or a day either way (before or after) yours would not be the only one. We've used this method in other years and plants to find (example 69 Dearborn) to identify small micro patterns of different coatings within larger trends of a different one.
I have already stripped the undercoating on my car and am down to the original primer and it is most certainly red oxide primer. If I did not wear down to bare metal in spots I would just leave it as is.
Between your restoration of the original hubcaps, getting the under hood stuff "done right" , making sure the trans and driveline are correct, and now the undercarriage, I thinking your going to start showing in concours classes.
Car started as beautiful, the finished product will be stunning I'm sure
Keep those pictures coming
Thank you Steve!
Floors look very solid - Nice!
Your pictures do more to disqualify your statements of red oxide then they do to support that.
What they clearly show is that there is no consistency with the painting of the underside of '68s? Show me where there is consistancy of just pure red primer. You can't. Your pictures just proved it.
I presume that you used a pure brass plate to inscribe your credentials on? If you used a plated plate, you would polished the finish off? ;)
I will just reflect back to you what you told me. "You can't PROVE anything, because you weren't there on the assembly line when the car was built".
As far as what Phil wants to post here, that's up to him but from his lack of participation on Forum 2.0, I think "we've" lost him. Unfortunately those hundreds of pics vanished into oblivion.
I told you to stop wearing that silly "Shelby Secret Police" uniform. The tights were way too tight and cut off what litte blood flow you had going to your brain.
You are entitled though to complimentary recognition of Wisconsin accomplishments. The Packers finally got new matching uniforms and everyone got their own numbers. Having two or three players with the same uniform numbers on the field at the same time was confusing.
I noticed that the team went out and bought real goal posts too. Gone are those 2" black gas pipes they repurposed.
Those are all good things. Keep up the good work. ::)
Theres only one thing inconsistent in this thread.
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Quote from: Coralsnake on January 18, 2021, 09:42:42 AM
Theres only one thing inconsistent in this thread.
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Good to see that you admit it.