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Title: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: Coralsnake on February 08, 2021, 06:24:13 PM
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Downey Ford summer of 1967
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: Cobra Ned on February 09, 2021, 08:33:59 AM
Downey Ford only got one new 427 Cobra, and it was 3265. It arrived at the dealership in the fall of '66 and supposedly went unsold well into '67. At some point it was transferred to a dealer in TX, and it was finally sold through them in 8/67. Since we don't know the exact date the car left Downey, that might be it in the "summer of '67." 3265 was red and the car in the photo appears as if it could be red as well.
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: Coralsnake on February 09, 2021, 08:37:44 AM
Are the silver gravel guards a good clue?
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: 68blk500c on February 09, 2021, 09:56:48 AM
Maybe reflections from the low angle of the sun?
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: CSX 3183 on February 09, 2021, 07:17:19 PM
More than likely the photo was taken in 66, that's a Galaxie next to it, and it's a 66
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: A-Snake on February 09, 2021, 08:06:39 PM
More than likely the photo was taken in 66, that's a Galaxie next to it, and it's a 66
I think that Galaxie is outside, not in the showroom.
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: gt350hr on February 10, 2021, 10:45:56 AM
    Correct , that "end" of the showroom was glass on three sides. The Galaxie and the F100 were "outside". as you suggest. I went by many times to see what they had.
    Randy
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: gt350hr on February 10, 2021, 10:48:50 AM
Downey Ford only got one new 427 Cobra, and it was 3265. It arrived at the dealership in the fall of '66 and supposedly went unsold well into '67. At some point it was transferred to a dealer in TX, and it was finally sold through them in 8/67. Since we don't know the exact date the car left Downey, that might be it in the "summer of '67." 3265 was red and the car in the photo appears as if it could be red as well.

    Ned , I'm sliding off topic but IIRC Theodore Robbins in Costa Mesa ( also local to me) had three Series 3000 cars and two took a couple of years to sell. ( like '68 or 9) . At least one was a 428. Do you know those car numbers.
    TIA,
    Randy
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: honker on February 10, 2021, 12:13:12 PM
Just for reference of the building,  here's a pic I have in my files, I think this is one of those shots that was used in high school year

 books. Odd that they would show the car with out wheel discs  ::)

Mike
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: 69mach351w on February 10, 2021, 12:17:27 PM
Downey is advertising 69's.  So either the 68 vert is a trade-in or took a while to sell.

Nice vintage photo with two babe's sitting in it ;D
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on February 10, 2021, 12:54:47 PM
More than likely the photo was taken in 66, that's a Galaxie next to it, and it's a 66
It's a 67 Mustang in the lower right corner.
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: shelbydoug on February 10, 2021, 01:03:33 PM
Just for reference of the building,  here's a pic I have in my files, I think this is one of those shots that was used in high school year

 books. Odd that they would show the car with out wheel discs  ::)

Mike

Back then you couldn't park the car for more then five minutes without someone stealing the hubcaps. Had mine stolen three times and one time the idiots used an impact wrench to try to get them off.

They couldn't figure out they were just hubcaps?
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: gt350cs on February 10, 2021, 01:10:26 PM
"They couldn't figure it out they were just hubcaps?" - WOW!!! that is one that I have never heard before!
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: shelbydoug on February 10, 2021, 01:19:44 PM
"They couldn't figure it out they were just hubcaps?" - WOW!!! that is one that I have never heard before!

 ;)
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: gt350hr on February 10, 2021, 02:42:02 PM
   Downey was still "safe" in '67. Middle class , safe to walk the streets. Sachs and Sons L/M was across the street and Yeakle Bros Chrysler Plymouth was next to Downey Ford The oldest "original" McDonald's location is right down the street too.
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: honker on February 10, 2021, 02:54:49 PM
"They couldn't figure it out they were just hubcaps?" - WOW!!! that is one that I have never heard before!

 ;)

Bit off topic, not surprised, many years ago my mother took her new Subaru for a service at the " dealer"  no less, when we picked

 the car up I looked at the wheels and one of the discs had three of the fake wheel nuts broken off  ??? one of those wtf moments

 when I  walked back into the service department  and told them, I wonder if the tech kept his job ! The did put a new disc on right

 there.

Mike
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: Side-Oilers on February 10, 2021, 03:08:08 PM
   Downey was still "safe" in '67. Middle class , safe to walk the streets. Sachs and Sons L/M was across the street and Yeakle Bros Chrysler Plymouth was next to Downey Ford The oldest "original" McDonald's location is right down the street too.

And the original Chris & Pitts BBQ restaurant too, Randy. 

My parents' best friends lived in Downey, and we'd visit several times a year.  Yes, a nice safe little town, in the day.
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: tesgt350 on February 10, 2021, 03:25:10 PM
More than likely the photo was taken in 66, that's a Galaxie next to it, and it's a 66
It's a 67 Mustang in the lower right corner.

Looks like a White 66 Falcon in the lower right corner.
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: SCJSTU on February 10, 2021, 04:52:48 PM
Just for reference of the building,  here's a pic I have in my files, I think this is one of those shots that was used in high school year

 books. Odd that they would show the car with out wheel discs  ::)

Mike

I worked in Downey,Ca in the 80's on Firestone Blvd.......hubcaps get stolen at night ya know?
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: 69mach351w on February 10, 2021, 08:40:46 PM
More than likely the photo was taken in 66, that's a Galaxie next to it, and it's a 66
It's a 67 Mustang in the lower right corner.

Looks like a White 66 Falcon in the lower right corner.
Definitely not a 67 Mustang, no quarter finned scoops below 1/4 windows.
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: shelbydoug on February 10, 2021, 09:55:00 PM
Just for reference of the building,  here's a pic I have in my files, I think this is one of those shots that was used in high school year

 books. Odd that they would show the car with out wheel discs  ::)

Mike

I worked in Downey,Ca in the 80's on Firestone Blvd.......hubcaps get stolen at night ya know?

It can always be worse? I've heard stories of the new Corvettes falling off of the lifts.

"Directions? We don't read no stinkin' directions! Wee'ze profensionals".
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: 68blk500c on February 10, 2021, 10:56:24 PM
Foreground has a 66 Mustang convertible on the left; a 66 Fairlane Country Squire station wagon in the center; a 66 Falcon coupe on the right.

In the shadowed background is a much older pickup.

That's the way I see it.
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: Coralsnake on February 11, 2021, 07:45:21 AM
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/8-110221074332.jpeg)

Bigger view showing 1967 Mustangs

You can see horizontal grille bars.

I appreciate all the help so far

If anyone has any Downey items, they can be added to upcoming article
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: Side-Oilers on February 11, 2021, 11:24:00 AM
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/8-110221074332.jpeg)

Bigger view showing 1967 Mustangs

You can see horizontal grille bars.

I appreciate all the help so far

If anyone has any Downey items, they can be added to upcoming article

I love the (circa 1959-60?) Ford logo next to "Downey" on the building.

Bonus points for anyone who can i.d. the building across the street from the dealer (in foreground)...by the shadow of its sign.

Good article on Downey Ford...
https://www.thedowneypatriot.com/articles/looking-back-on-downey-ford

Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: gt350hr on February 11, 2021, 11:38:02 AM
   Reply 14 Sachs & Sons Lincoln Mercury. Sponsor of Jack Chrisman and Bill Shrewsberry's drag race Comets.
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: SCJSTU on February 11, 2021, 03:56:02 PM
did ya'll know the Carpenters are from Downey?....Karen and car buff brother Richard.....
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: Cobra Ned on February 11, 2021, 06:57:07 PM


    Ned , I'm sliding off topic but IIRC Theodore Robbins in Costa Mesa ( also local to me) had three Series 3000 cars and two took a couple of years to sell. ( like '68 or 9) . At least one was a 428. Do you know those car numbers.
    TIA,
    Randy

Randy, Theodore Robins did get 3 427 Cobras, and each was actually a 428 car. CSX 3264 was red and was bought in the early '70s by Rod Stewart; CSX 3272 was silver; and CSX 3292 was green.
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: chris NOS on February 12, 2021, 05:25:42 AM
Just for reference of the building,  here's a pic I have in my files, I think this is one of those shots that was used in high school year

 books. Odd that they would show the car with out wheel discs  ::)

Mike

Interesting to see the gap between door and front fender , not in today standard concours restoration !!! :D
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: gt350hr on February 12, 2021, 10:58:52 AM
Thanks Ned!!!!! The silver one must have sold as the red and green were the ones I saw in the showroom. My friend that worked there was over Wed and related that the Robbins family was pretty desperate to get rid of those two. She didn't remember Rod Stewart buying the red one, but "he" might not have been there to do it.
   Randy
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: shelbydoug on February 12, 2021, 11:09:44 AM
Thanks Ned!!!!! The silver must have sold as the red and green were the ones I saw in the showroom. My friend that worked there was over Wed and related that the Robbins family was pretty desperate to get rid of those two. She didn't remember Rod Stewart buying the red one, but "he" might not have been there to do it.
   Randy

I'm probably remembering this incorrectly but I thought the story was that Stewart "bought" the car from a used car dealer around 1975 after reading the press that it was "the fastest car ever offered to the public"?

What I remember is that the car was flat bedded to him at his home. When it arrived he jumped in, drove it around the block and said he didn't want it and take it out of here.

At the time and probably still, he was a Porsche 930 guy.

I don't remember the story being tied to the original Ford dealer as a new car purchase?

That was a story revolving around the SOA and might have been before SAAC existed?

Ned. How off am I on this story recounting?
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: S7MS427 on February 12, 2021, 12:15:11 PM
I'm probably remembering this incorrectly but I thought the story was that Stewart "bought" the car from a used car dealer around 1975 after reading the press that it was "the fastest car ever offered to the public"?

What I remember is that the car was flat bedded to him at his home. When it arrived he jumped in, drove it around the block and said he didn't want it and take it out of here.

At the time and probably still, he was a Porsche 930 guy.

I don't remember the story being tied to the original Ford dealer as a new car purchase?

That was a story revolving around the SOA and might have been before SAAC existed?

Ned. How off am I on this story recounting?

Doug, I think that's pretty much the Bill Cosby story as related on his "200 Miles Per Hour" album.
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: shelbydoug on February 12, 2021, 01:26:39 PM
It does sound suspiciously similar doesn't it?

I need Ned to clear up the story. He's the man. He'll know for sure.

I think that I heard the story I posted from Ken Eber back then? I'm not sure now. It was so long ago? Maybe the story that he had  heard and repeated was plagiarized from Cosby?  :o
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: gt350hr on February 12, 2021, 04:01:00 PM
  One of Rod's "roadies" says he kept until his first divorce. Being mostly on tour , it was hardly driven but did suffer a bit from some DUIs. Don't shoot me I'm just going by what he said.
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: honker on February 12, 2021, 04:20:14 PM
Rod Stewart with Brit Ekland & Cobra. He also had a Mk. 1V lightweight later. The DUI thing is probably right, I have a concert

booklet that show a picture of one of his Lamborghini Countach after a crash, and some one has written in the dirt on the front

"drunk again Stewart"  ;)

Mike
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: S7MS427 on February 12, 2021, 05:51:31 PM
It does sound suspiciously similar doesn't it?

I need Ned to clear up the story. He's the man. He'll know for sure.

I think that I heard the story I posted from Ken Eber back then? I'm not sure now. It was so long ago? Maybe the story that he had  heard and repeated was plagiarized from Cosby?  :o

Doug, Yes, Ned will know for sure.  He gave me my first ride in a Cobra, a 260 powered car IIRC.  His knowledge is amazing.  In any case, Cosby's car and his experience with it is well documented.  Maybe lightning struck twice with Rod Stewart?
Title: Re: Long shot for Cobra Identity
Post by: shelbydoug on February 13, 2021, 08:06:22 AM
It does sound suspiciously similar doesn't it?

I need Ned to clear up the story. He's the man. He'll know for sure.

I think that I heard the story I posted from Ken Eber back then? I'm not sure now. It was so long ago? Maybe the story that he had  heard and repeated was plagiarized from Cosby?  :o

Doug, Yes, Ned will know for sure.  He gave me my first ride in a Cobra, a 260 powered car IIRC.  His knowledge is amazing.  In any case, Cosby's car and his experience with it is well documented.  Maybe lightning struck twice with Rod Stewart?

No, no. You got the story confused. When he crashed his Lambo, he said it wasn't his fault, he got hit by lightening.  ;)

There was just a recent story in the press locally that he was just arrested in Florida for trying to crash a private party with "his son". His name wasn't on the guest list so he got into it with security and was arrested as a result.



I'll go with your story Randy. "Roadies" always have  a "fly on the wall unknown view" of happenings.
I personally take that with a grain of salt though. One that I know of here, was arrested and convicted, at the felony level, of defrauding seven women.

Amongst other things, he told one that he was a US Navy Admiral, was personal advisor to Mrs. Sikorsky and owned a house in Greenwhich which he tore down because it was lined with asbestos. He would drive them past this empty lot and show them where the house used to be. Oh..."he was a Navy fighter pilot and he crash landed it on the beach".

The last time I saw him, he was out on parole and had just gotten into a fist fight with a "sanitation worker" (garbage man) at the local 'deli'. I don't know if the parole was revoked but as it turns out he was a "roady" and had knowledge of certain celebrities because he had been a "burglar alarm installer" for a few years.

He would start up with me and I'd just say, "yes sir Admiral". Then he'd go to his room and sulk saying something like..."didn't you ever lie to a woman"? I'd think to myself, "hum, I don't think so, but certainly I was never convicted of it"? ;)

Yup. "Roadies" are "colorful" all right. Very "colorful". 8)