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The count down begins
It appears Mr Gaines was correct
8)
I am honored to be chosen again to run the drag racing program on Friday afternoon. For those of you that have participated in the past we will run the same format. "Fun runs" , "grudge runs" . I will be attempting to set a new "low ET" for a real Shelby ( non tube chassis like Clay Holland's world's fastest). If you haven't drag raced before but would like to , shoot me a PM and I'll help you from my 50+ years of experience doing it . My favorite last time was a very nice lady with a Tesla that had never raced before . I schooled her a bit and she "silently" trounced her husband's "noisey" Mustang in a two out of three match. It was great fun. There is always PLENTY of time to get lots of runs in.
Thanks AGAIN to SAAC and NorCal SAAC that made it happen!!!!!!!!!
Randy Gillis.
So, how's covid restrictions looking in CA? Hopefully open to large gatherings, etc. at time of the convention, at least in Marin and Sonoma counties :)
With our rate of vaccination we may be on "masks suggested" only by then.
When I saw this email blast I was over the moon. I am so glad to see "new" events getting scheduled and that there is a light at the end of the tunnel to all this craziness. I will not be able to attend, however am thrilled to see we are headed in the right direction.... back to normal and getting on with it! ;)
Great news, another region in the US i havent visited so far. My fingers are crossed that international boarders will be open by then or it will be another year away from my SAAC friends
regards
PHILL BERESFORD
MELBOURNE.
AUSTRALIA.
Quote from: gt350hr on March 04, 2021, 12:07:17 PM
I will be attempting to set a new "low ET" for a real Shelby Randy Gillis.
You may have a good shot at it. The track may be still sticky from the previous weekend - NHRA Sonoma Nationals weekend, July 24-26
What is the "normal" hotel for this convention location?
Quote from: Rickmustang on March 05, 2021, 09:44:59 AM
What is the "normal" hotel for this convention location?
Last time was Embassy Suites in San Rafael.
Quote from: jguyer on March 05, 2021, 11:51:46 AM
Quote from: Rickmustang on March 05, 2021, 09:44:59 AM
What is the "normal" hotel for this convention location?
Last time was Embassy Suites in San Rafael.
It is a great hotel and location. There are alternate hotels nearby for when it is sold out. But we have to wait to see what the planners can arrange and get our SAAC rate. 8)
That hotel is already sold out for those dates so I'm sure SAAC has the hotel blocked.
Hope so. 8)
Watching the GT World Challenge at Sonoma today. Amazing to see all the green hills around the track. And really nice to see the track in operation but not sure if there are spectators. 8)
Quote from: Don Johnston on March 07, 2021, 05:14:37 PM
Watching the GT World Challenge at Sonoma today. Amazing to see all the green hills around the track. And really nice to see the track in operation but not sure if there are spectators. 8)
No spectators allowed at anything but dinner with the governor at his winery. Disneyland etc isn't even open with reduced capacity. The state hasn't opened up to sell tickets to fill the stands at sporting events but there has been no problem going to open track events at Willow. Sears should be the same.
Quote from: Don Johnston on March 07, 2021, 05:14:37 PM
Watching the GT World Challenge at Sonoma today. Amazing to see all the green hills around the track. And really nice to see the track in operation but not sure if there are spectators. 8)
Those same hills will be anything but green by summer. California may be one of the last states to lift the mask.restrictions so get ready for further nonsense.
If you don't like are "nonsense" than stay home!
Roy
Quote from: TA Coupe on March 07, 2021, 07:43:28 PM
If you don't like are "nonsense" than stay home!
Roy
Actually I won't be attending, instead I'll be running at SVRA's Mid-Ohio race.
Quote from: gt350hr on March 04, 2021, 12:07:17 PM
I am honored to be chosen again to run the drag racing program on Friday afternoon. For those of you that have participated in the past we will run the same format. "Fun runs" , "grudge runs" . I will be attempting to set a new "low ET" for a real Shelby ( non tube chassis like Clay Holland's world's fastest). If you haven't drag raced before but would like to , shoot me a PM and I'll help you from my 50+ years of experience doing it . My favorite last time was a very nice lady with a Tesla that had never raced before . I schooled her a bit and she "silently" trounced her husband's "noisey" Mustang in a two out of three match. It was great fun. There is always PLENTY of time to get lots of runs in.
Thanks AGAIN to SAAC and NorCal SAAC that made it happen!!!!!!!!!
Randy Gillis.
Well glad to see SAAC back at Sonoma with Norcal! We have always been the best host. I ran the first Drag Race and Mini Nats and one or two more but it's been a few years
The last convention in 2018 at Sears Point was a lot of fun and especially enjoyed participating in the parade lap with my Shelby. I hope the organizers do more to encourage people to drive their Shelby to the event. A plus would be if there was a roped off area at the host hotel for Shelby owners and visible security. I spent 2 sleepless nights wondering if a minivan was going to park next to my Shelby and provide me with an unwanted door ding or possibly worse. Fortunately neither happened.
I doubt I'll drive my car to the event unless I know beforehand there is a roped off area and visible security. Either way I will definitely be attending...
Quote from: 6T6/7 on March 04, 2021, 12:41:23 PM
So, how's covid restrictions looking in CA? Hopefully open to large gatherings, etc. at time of the convention, at least in Marin and Sonoma counties :)
Forget about restrictions, make sure that you are secure. Have a Florida State of mind.
If not now then when, if not me then who? Just do it
Quote from: SAM83 on March 11, 2021, 09:30:24 PM
The last convention in 2018 at Sears Point was a lot of fun and especially enjoyed participating in the parade lap with my Shelby. I hope the organizers do more to encourage people to drive their Shelby to the event. A plus would be if there was a roped off area at the host hotel for Shelby owners and visible security. I spent 2 sleepless nights wondering if a minivan was going to park next to my Shelby and provide me with an unwanted door ding or possibly worse. Fortunately neither happened.
I doubt I'll drive my car to the event unless I know beforehand there is a roped off area and visible security. Either way I will definitely be attending...
I got black flagged on the parade laps! I have very low gears and no mufflers so it sounded like I was "racing" yet I wasn't keeping up! Go figure.
I appreciate your concerns about parking , that is something to consider.
Doesn't Sonoma Raceway have a decibel limit? Could have been the issue.
They have 103 db limit from what I've read. They had to move the outlet on my car from the right door to under the car to try and fool the DB police at Laguna in the late 80s. Hopefully it will be finished for SAAC46. 310" Cleveland TransAm engine 8,000 rev limiter. Pair of Flowmasters 4" in-out.
Sonoma has a 96 DB for non racing events (HPD, etc.) and 103 DB for racing events (NASA, etc). The neighbors (which by the way are quickly encroaching on this track) will be complaining if the 96 DB is exceeded for a "track day" event.
The cows must be complaining.
I expect a lot of ag. land is being rezoned for residential. It has been happening at a lot of tracks and airports. Subsequently, the new residents of these developments start petitioning for sound level restrictions despite knowing that the facility was there first.
Anyway, hopefully SAAC cars will be okay. Those with experience with these type of track dB limits could give tips on any necessary modifications to various Cobras and Shelby Mustangs to insure that they are compliant. 8)
Quote from: Don Johnston on March 12, 2021, 05:44:00 PM
I expect a lot of ag. land is being rezoned for residential. It has been happening at a lot of tracks and airports. Subsequently, the new residents of these developments start petitioning for sound level restrictions despite knowing that the facility was there first.
Yup, race tracks and airports are the most endangered land in the US. What gets me going is that all the people knew that they were there in the first place. Then they decide to launch a law suit and before you know it, the track or airport is closed down. I don't believe the plaintiffs have the right to close an existing facility. Just my humble opinion. >:(
Quote from: S7MS427 on March 12, 2021, 06:00:19 PM
Yup, race tracks and airports are the most endangered land in the US.
Airports fare a little better since they are federally licensed. They have tried to shut down Santa Monica for years but as soon as the feds demand all the money back that they have poured into it since the 1920s it survives.
A friend owns 2 small private airports. His "new" neighbors tried to shut down his one in NV. The county told them tough luck it's got a federal license they gave up. The one he recently bought in AZ was created as an air park housing development in the 60s. The big user was a ag spraying biz that went bust around 2000. He bought 1 lot and the runway to assure it stays an air park. The original corp says if it's no longer an airport the land reverts to the original owner or his family.
I do not know sound restriction rules for this year. In 2018 it was for Sunday. It affected me because that was the day I paid for track time. My car is strictly a race car without any mufflers. Thank you Howard Pardee for solving my problem very quickly Saturday morning. Giving me track time Saturday instead of Sunday.
I'm in the glidepath of LaGuardia in Queens. I'm 25 miles away. Depending on the routing we hear the planes throttle up or down. Sometimes that's almost like thunder out of nowhere?
I'm 150 yards off of the Sprain Parkway. We have no sound barriers and there is a straitaway that I can clearly tell you how many rpm's the crazy bikes are turning.
After returning from VIR and Pocono, my sons said, it's as lound here as at the track?
It doesn't bother me until they start backfiring. I suppose blown up mufflers don't matter as you can walk along the parkway and pick up shrapnel. I'm not sure what that's about? I think it's just Royal A ss ho les who haven't got a clue on how to tune their death rockets?
I's like a 2 mile straightaway. The NYS Troopers don't even pursue. They can't keep up at over 180mph. The bikes are at 14-15 thousand rpms in top gear. (With no helmets as well). One biker lost control and wound up 300 feet into the lake.
You only get legal action by the billionaires that have bought in and want to control everything for their own purposes. Maybe bankrupt the track and the airport and get the property for pennies on the dollar and put up some sort of a gated ar15 community for cranky shut ins?
A lot of the track owners are border line crack pots as well. Ask Kopec about Lime Rock.
There is always going to be BS around these facilities. There always has been. "Same as it everwas". Don't try to fix something that can't be fixed is the advice i give myself.
If the neighbors didn't like the noise, they shouldn't have bought that close to the track. Two tracks that I can think of VIR and Pocono seem to be ok with the locals. Milleville probably as well?
I hear more here from the planes and bikes, a lot more, then I hear at the gates at those tracks.
Being a left coaster the birth place of racing and performance activities, I have seen the closures of many racing venues because of the skyrocketing land values. I have raced motorcycles and cars since the 1970s and and have witnessed one by one the closing of these tracks. Most tracks were located in some remote location when they were built but the influx of people to the state where the sidewalks are paved of gold as the old timers referred to it have caved in to urban sprawl. These remote very scenic locations are where the people with some coin want to be. OCIR... ESCAPE COUNTRY... SADDLEBACK PARK... CARLSBAD... LIONS... SAN FERNANDO... I dont have enough fingers and toes to count them all but the message was clear. The land was worth hundreds of millions of dollars a few thousand dollars for some small race doesnt justify keeping the doors open!
Quote from: 427heaven on March 13, 2021, 09:24:04 AM
Being a left coaster the birth place of racing and performance activities, I have seen the closures of many racing venues because of the skyrocketing land values. I have raced motorcycles and cars since the 1970s and and have witnessed one by one the closing of these tracks. Most tracks were located in some remote location when they were built but the influx of people to the state where the sidewalks are paved of gold as the old timers referred to it have caved in to urban sprawl. These remote very scenic locations are where the people with some coin want to be. OCIR... ESCAPE COUNTRY... SADDLEBACK PARK... CARLSBAD... LIONS... SAN FERNANDO... I dont have enough fingers and toes to count them all but the message was clear. The land was worth hundreds of millions of dollars a few thousand dollars for some small race doesnt justify keeping the doors open!
Bridgehampton here on Long Island fits right into your description. The place was notorious for sand flees and you needed to get de-loused when you went home.
That part of LI was know for potato farms. Carl Yastremski was from out there. Probably hit potatoes fungo as a kid?
That part of the"island" was kinda remote. Now all the "oil tycoons" bought up the place for exclusivity and privacy. They don't even drive there. They have their own private "heli-pads".
The billionaires should just stick to living on their own manmade islands. No one wants to have them around. It's like Trump Towers on fifth. You can't even walk past it now without getting stopped and frisked by the NYPD and Secret Service? Who need's that? Bah-humbug!
It is what is happening to California Speedway going from a large 2 mile D oval track and road course to a much smaller venue so the owners can develop the extra acreage.
https://racingnews.co/2020/09/08/auto-club-speedway-to-be-converted-to-1-2-mile-short-track-construction-plan-photo/
Sad.
Correct it used to be called ONTARIO speedway... Closed down and moved a little east to neighboring FONTANA which was once considered the arm pit of the west, or another body orifice. :-[ But now even that land is a prime commodity in SO CAL. Penske aint no dummy follow his lead and good things will follow. He owns MICHIGAN SPEEDWAY, INDY, FONTANA SPEEDWAY !
Quote from: 427heaven on March 13, 2021, 01:57:25 PM
Correct it used to be called ONTARIO speedway... Closed down and moved a little east to neighboring FONTANA which was once considered the arm pit of the west, or another body orifice. :-[ But now even that land is a prime commodity in SO CAL. Penske aint no dummy follow his lead and good things will follow. He owns MICHIGAN SPEEDWAY, INDY, FONTANA SPEEDWAY !
Maybe so but as Kopec tells it, he was the one that blocked SAAC from getting Pocono for one of the past conventions. He didn't want our sorry a ss cars on "his" pavement. Some of us remember who our friends are and who isn't.
There is an interview done when Riverside opened and a question was asked about the expected life of the track. The answer was simple - until the land becomes valuable enough for houses.
Willow Springs is quietly for sale I heard the asking price is around 11 million so it doesn't make good sense as a business.
Quote from: 427heaven on March 13, 2021, 01:57:25 PM
Correct it used to be called ONTARIO speedway... Closed down and moved a little east to neighboring FONTANA which was once considered the arm pit of the west, or another body orifice. :-[ But now even that land is a prime commodity in SO CAL. Penske aint no dummy follow his lead and good things will follow. He owns MICHIGAN SPEEDWAY, INDY, FONTANA SPEEDWAY !
Fontana is built on an old steel mill. They had to pave the parking area rather than just leave it dirt/gravel due to all the hazardous waste in the soil. Any developer will have to eat those costs. Penske is no dummy he sold 49% of the track for 100% of the funding to build it. He had controlling interest with zero out of pocket.
Quote from: TA Coupe on March 07, 2021, 07:43:28 PM
If you don't like are "nonsense" than stay home!
Roy
Wow....... I think ?
They've been trying to close Irwindale for at least ten years. Trouble is the soil pollution hasn't passed the pollution test yet so nothing new can be built there. Fontana was "out in the sticks" and NO bother to anyone until popularity of the track led to hotels and small businesses being built on the area northeast of the track. That led to houses being built and a law suit for "noise pollution". Willow Springs is now being surrounded by homes and as mentioned will probably succumb to the "Dozers" and become houses.
Enjoy racing while we can and before it is "internet only"
Randy
Same thing happed to one of the Premier Drag Strips on the East Coast, Englishtown, NJ. Noise, rising real estate, Insurance & the cost of operation, the usual culprits. They still run some events on a small road course.
Quote from: shelbydoug on March 13, 2021, 02:08:26 PM
Quote from: 427heaven on March 13, 2021, 01:57:25 PM
Correct it used to be called ONTARIO speedway... Closed down and moved a little east to neighboring FONTANA which was once considered the arm pit of the west, or another body orifice. :-[ But now even that land is a prime commodity in SO CAL. Penske aint no dummy follow his lead and good things will follow. He owns MICHIGAN SPEEDWAY, INDY, FONTANA SPEEDWAY !
Maybe so but as Kopec tells it, he was the one that blocked SAAC from getting Pocono for one of the past conventions. He didn't want our sorry a ss cars on "his" pavement. Some of us remember who our friends are and who isn't.
Maybe Roger needs to be reminded of his roots in Sportscar racing when he drove some pretty sorry @ss cars himself.
My car is pretty loud so I am unable to run at Laguna on anything but a high sound day. I've never been harassed at Sears Point for sound however. From what I've heard the sound limits there are, essentially, unenforced.
I'm very stoked about SAAC-46. I've already made my reservation at the Embassy Suites. I attended SAAC-43 but had multiple mechanical and electrical issues which have since been resolved. :)
Every time i try it's been sold out
The drag racing "may" be moved to SATURDAY Stay tuned!!!!
DIDN'T Happen , NO PROBLEM , back to FRIDAY afternoon. Sound level maximum 105DB will be in effect. 99% will pass with mufflers , those without "could" have a problem , including ME!!!!!!!!!!
Won't be green in July!!
For those intending to drag race,
Safety is paramount!!!!! Things to do on your car BEFORE you leave home.
1 ALL lug nuts on all four corners.
2 Seat belts
3 helmet
4 Tire tread or rubber on slicks
5 Racing slicks require a driveshaft loop ( not drag radials)
6 coolant overflow "catch can" ( soda can or hose to the windshield washer)
7 check for and correct leaks of any kind.
8 make SURE the battery is securely held down, bungee cords aren't cool here.
9 "True racecars" MUST comply with NHRA safety standards for the appropriate ET.
10 NEVER read NEVER turn around "on the track" PERIOD.
Doing all of this will help you sail through tech AND show the track officials that WE care.
If anyone needs instruction or would like some tips , I will be available Friday
Randy Gillis Drag Race coordinator.
Randy, is there a Specification for the helmets that can be used? (better to know sooner than later)
Snell 2015 is current
Will there be Division 1 and 2 judging at the convention ? and if so - where does one sign up?
Dave
Quote from: DRGT350 on March 31, 2021, 04:12:48 PM
Will there be Division 1 and 2 judging at the convention ? and if so - where does one sign up?
Dave
Yes, there will be normal SAAC judging. Registration TBD.
Can someone provide an overview of SAAC the convention process?
Is it all inclusive package with hotel or do you have to find/book your own hotel?
Sounds like Embassey suites is the "home hotel"?
Car trailer parking?
Safe parking for cars?
Unjudged car show/peoples choice?
I saw judged concours is planned
Also saw drag racing is in, as is track time on the road course
There are probably more events?
#1198 is curious
thx!
To the hotel discussion....
Sheraton Wine Country is a good fallback hotel that is super convenient and the road to/from is low traffic as other roads are sometimes problematic. Usually this is the home hotel for the Audi club when they do their event @ Sonoma. I think there are a few more around the Sheraton but hotel choices are fairly good around since the track has all sorts of National events like NASCAR, NHRA, etc.
If there are going to be events at the Embassy Suites- be aware some of the hotels are in opposite directions to each other and the Cobra Experience is away from everything else so plan accordingly.
I imagine there will be a website published very soon that addresses a lot of questions. Just watch your emails for a notification.
FRIDAY, FRIDAY,FRIDAY, Drag Racing is ON!!! I hope many will use this chance to "wring your car out" safely. Race you friend , Challenge the "world famous" Howard Pardee to a grudge race. We usually get 60-100 cars and get at least ten runs each. Watch out for the Teslas! Challenge me to a grudge race , let's have fun!
Quote from: gt350hr on April 01, 2021, 05:27:39 PM
FRIDAY, FRIDAY,FRIDAY, Drag Racing is ON!!! I hope many will use this chance to "wring your car out" safely. Race you friend , Challenge the "world famous" Howard Pardee to a grudge race. We usually get 60-100 cars and get at least ten runs each. Watch out for the Teslas! Challenge me to a grudge race , let's have fun!
Howard has been known to unscrew the red light on his lane
Won't be able to make this convention, but I'll take my car down the Local "Triton Beach Drag-a-Way" as an east coast tribute race. Street racing still lives
Quote from: calspcl on April 01, 2021, 04:13:20 PM
Can someone provide an overview of SAAC the convention process?
Is it all inclusive package with hotel or do you have to find/book your own hotel?
Sounds like Embassey suites is the "home hotel"?
Car trailer parking?
Safe parking for cars?
Unjudged car show/peoples choice?
I saw judged concours is planned
Also saw drag racing is in, as is track time on the road course
There are probably more events?
You make your own reservations at Embassey Suites, they have a group code. They usually supply list of other nearby hotels.
May rope off an area for SAAC, but many "civilians" ignore and park there.
Popular car show, yes. Judged concours is for very serious cars only.
Drag racing planned and track time at Sonoma Raceway is available.
Cobra Experience is something you will want to go to.
#1198 is curious
thx!
thx for the feed back-looking forward this event
I live in Petaluma ca 10 minutes from the track, many new hotels here, no green grass at that time of year, we are in a drought this year also, see you there I will bring 68 02602 sunlight gold 350 fastback with a Paxton on it from Craig, pete
PR what are some of the new motels?
Damn, I so whish I could go. I previously attended SAAC 43 at Sonoma with a good friend of mine and fellow Shelby enthusiast, Steve. It was the 3rd SAAC convention that we had attended after SAAC 41 at Mid Ohio and SAAC 42 at Indianapolis. All three conventions were great but I particularly loved Sonoma. The events at The Cobra Experience and Denbeste Motorsports were simply amazing.
During my time in Sonoma at SAAC 43 I captured two great photo opportunity with Shelby legends. Rick Kopec and Hank Williams.
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Travel restrictions in and out of Canada due to Covid means that I can not attend this convention and I am depressed that I can not go :'(. Have fun you all. Hope to see you next year.
QSS
Hank is my all time favorite Shelby personality. He and-or his wife used to call every year or two but have not heard from them in several years.
Roy
Here are some hotels in the Petaluma area Sheraton Petaluma 707-283-2888, Best Western Petaluma
707-763-0994, Hampton Inn Petaluma 885-797-6733, and if you like to gamble Graton Casino
Rohnert park 707-588-7100
Quote from: TA Coupe on April 09, 2021, 03:32:53 AM
Hank is my all time favorite Shelby personality. He and-or his wife used to call every year or two but have not heard from them in several years.
I saw him at the last LA SAAC show. 2019 I think. I need to go by and see if he got another trailer to take his car to Sonoma - his was stolen.
Am I missing it or is their an official host hotel yet?
Thanks
The hotel was announced in an email yesterday. Copied/pasted here if you didn't get it.
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Members get the SCOOP...
SAAC-46 ... July 30 - August 1, 2021
The Shelby American Automobile Club's 46th National Convention
will be held at Sonoma Raceway, Sonoma, California
Friday July 30-31-August 1, 2021.
Open Track - Vintage Racing - Drag Racing - Cruise Tour -
Concours Judging - Popular Vote Car Show
PLEASE NOTE - Online Convention Registration
will be available shortly.
] A separate website will be online for the convention in a few days.
News, updates and details will be all in one location.
\This site will have links to Pre-Register for the convention.
Again, Event Registration will be open and announced shortly
SAAC-46 Host Hotel
The convention host hotel is the Embassy Suites by Hilton,
San Rafael Marin County, 101 McInnis Parkway, San Rafael, CA 94903
and the dinner will be at this hotel Saturday July 31st.
We used this same hotel for SAAC-35 in 2010 and again at SAAC-43.
It is where the dinner will be on Saturday night and
it's pretty easy to get to the track.
SAAC has procured a block of 200 rooms for Thursday July 29st,
Friday July 30st and Saturday July 31st.
There are a smaller number of rooms available for those
who want to arrive Wednesday night July 28nd and/or stay
Sunday night August 1st. It is suggested that you first
go to this URL to determine which type of room you would
like to have:
The SAAC rates are for the Standard King Suites and the
Standard Queen-Queen Suites. There are upgrades which
are available if you wish to have them. Remember that every
room is a suite with bedroom, bathroom and living room with
a sofa bed. All guests receive a complimentary hot breakfast,
free parking and other amenities.
The SAAC rates are:
Standard King Suite: $219 plus taxes
Premium King Suite: $219 plus taxes
Standard Queen-Queen Suite: $239 plus taxes
To make your reservations use Group Code: SAA
Embassy Suites Reservations: (415) 499-9222
Hilton Reservations (800) 686-3741
On Line Reservations:
Link for ONLINE RESERVATIONS
If you have a problem making reservations, please contact
Howard Pardee, phone: (860) 442-3400,
Again, if you have any problems or questions
please feel free to contact Howard Pardee.
For those of you thinking the hills may be green:
California Gov. Gavin Newsom declared a state of emergency in Mendocino and Sonoma counties on April 21 due to drought conditions.
At least the wine in Napa County will be red.
:'(
QSS
Is the Pizza Party at Cobra Experience on Friday night, July 30 going to be part of the Convention events?
http://events.r20.constantcontact.com/register/event?oeidk=a07ehuxs8knd2f04b21&llr=lduj8trab
8)
The website is up. - - http://saac46.com/ (http://saac46.com/)
Registered. Did a member e-notice go out yet? 8)
Airports - do you suggest flying into Sacramento or San Francisco? (I picked those two as I would fly Southwest). The traffic from Sacramento may be a little lighter? Thanks for any advice.
Jeff
Jeff
SW also flies to San Jose and Oakland. I will be flying into Oakland. Some of SW rates are cheaper to SMF, SJC and OAK than SFO. If you are renting a car check the rental rates at each airport before you buy a ticket as there can be a big difference from one airport to another. I looked at the cheapest total cost, airfare + car rental.
Great call to check Oakland also. That looks like the way to go. A little cheaper and it appears a little closer.
Jeff
Traffic from Oakland airport is Going to depend upon what time and what day. Traffic should not be too bad between about 10:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m. but very much either side of that can be a real bear.
Roy
Quote from: TA Coupe on April 28, 2021, 05:11:57 PM
Traffic from Oakland airport is Going to depend upon what time and what day. Traffic should not be too bad between about 10:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m. but very much either side of that can be a real bear.
Roy is right.
From Oakland, you will want to stay on the east bay side and come in by way of Hwy 880/80 through Vallejo (over the bridge) and west bound on Hwy 37. Outside of 10a-2p you don't want to take the Richmond San Rafael bridge to 101 towards the track eastbound on 37. Even early afternoon traffic is a mess leading up 37 to the turn onto 121 and can back up easily a mile+ before the intersection. Westbound should be better. Especially on Friday as all of 37 eastbound is bad from 101 east well past the turn.
Quote from: TA Coupe on April 28, 2021, 05:11:57 PM
Traffic from Oakland airport is Going to depend upon what time and what day. Traffic should not be too bad between about 10:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m. on the 3rd Tuesday following a full moon but very much either side of that can be a real bear.
Fixed it. Bay area traffic sucks 24/7. His 10a-2p tip just means a 20 minute trip will only take an hour during that time rather than the usual 2 hours.
What is the 580N and San Rafael Bridge like during the same hours? We are coming up from south of SFO and last time took forever to go north through San Francisco via Golden Gate. Scenic but a crawl through south SF roadwork. Thinking going 101N to 80 over Bay Bridge to to 580N.
Depending on the time, it can be good or horrible. I come up from the bottom of the south bay and always go up 880. I look At the maps and before committing to the Richmond bridge I look at 37 @ 121 traffic. If the trip puts me at 121 after 2p, I go through Vallejo. If it's before about 1:30 I stay w Richmond- 101n - 37E.
There are a number of times I first ventured south and went east over San Mateo, then north and it was fairly quick at midday. After 3 PM it is starting to get s=nasty on 101S and 880N.
I once met a guy for some sales calls in the Bay area and every time I talked to him, he stressed we could only travel between 10:00 and 2:00. Outside of that, traffic would be SO bad, we wouldn't make the appointments. He built it up to the point that I felt there was no way it could be that bad. It was TWO TIMES worse!
Reading the previous posts and the local knowledge, it is advisable to fly into Sacramento and stay north of S.F? Or are those roads going to be a parking lot also?
If you use Google maps it will generally get you there the quickest. If something happens along the way it will reroute you around the problems and save you a bunch of time. I have left San Francisco Airport and gone South and across the San Mateo bridge and back up North and that has saved me a lot of time sometimes.
Roy
Naah. Sac is too far away. Oakland first- San Jose second.
Lots of toll bridges in the bay area. Figure out how you want to pay before you go. Look for the car pool lanes too.
https://www.bayareafastrak.org/en/about/pay-tolls-violations.shtml
On the SAAC homepage ( http://www.saac.com (http://www.saac.com) ), the "SAAC Convention" side navigation points to a dead link at ( http://www.saac45.com (http://www.saac45.com) ). That website should redirect at a minimum.
Not sure who to tell except here.
Hi I would like to share one of the 2 place garage spots for the SAAC National event. Anyone want to buy half of a garage or let me buy one space in yours? Looking to garage my GT40.
Hi Rex, I have a garage reserved and no roommate. PM me to work out the details.
Totally new to the conventions. I know there is still lots of coordination taking place. However, I have a few questions regarding hauling a car trailer from out of state to this event.
Is there parking for it?
The car, is there secure parking for it? either host hotel or track?
Looking forward to this!
thx
The host hotel is the same as it was for the 2018 convention. Unless something changes for this event you'll be parking alongside other hotel guests. There was not a secure designated spot where convention cars parked together. Am hoping it changes this time around as I would like to drive my car to the event, if not will probably only plan on a day trip for the parade lap. I did notice a few trailers parked on the street and back parking lot areas of the host hotel last time. You'll want to get to the track early as there is limited amount of parking in the paved area and fills up fast. A large section of the paved area is for those who have rented out space.
We are planning A long trip from North Idaho in our coach towing an enclosed trailer . and after talking to Howard , is he right there will be parking at the track in a lot there ? as we can stay overnight and dry camp in our coach ? Thanks Jim
You can usually stay on a Hill overlooking the track. It's a few minutes walk from there down to the track.
Roy
Is anyone besides me not getting a warm and fuzzy feeling yet as far as trailer / secure car parking? Or am I being too paranoid... again , my first convention...
I know I will get a bunch of smart arss response's, but, I have not heard any response besides rent a garage... I would like to understand if there is a place to park your car/trailer that is somewhat secure?
Until you go to leave leave the trailer at the track. Very secure.
I am sure there are lots of details to work out. I appreciate those efforts! Its not like my car is worth a ton, but, they are our cars. Looking forward to it.
Cal,
Your trailer & car will be one of many at the track. The track is usually very secure, and they have thier own staff to patrol and man the gates. It's very rare there is ever a problem at this or any large marque gathering, as we are all looking out for each other. I have left mine at many, never an issue.
Best advice? The track is good and safe, relax, enjoy the weekend. It's your first, you will overload on all things Shelby, Mustang, Racing. Have a cold beverage and enjoy!
Thanks for tips-looking forward to this!
NASCAR is playing at Sonoma Raceway this Sunday. Good chance, especially for first timers, to get a view of the track and facilities. 8)
Vintage Trans Am cars will also be running this weekend.
Roy
Vintage cars might be worth watching but not nascar
SAAC Vintage races are this decades "Roaring' 20's". 8)
Quote from: TA Coupe on June 02, 2021, 01:45:38 AM
Vintage Trans Am cars will also be running this weekend.
Roy
I saw somewhere that ESPN Commentator Mike Joy runs a Vintage T/A car?
Quote from: Cobrask8 on June 07, 2021, 11:47:52 AM
Quote from: TA Coupe on June 02, 2021, 01:45:38 AM
Vintage Trans Am cars will also be running this weekend.
Roy
I saw somewhere that ESPN Commentator Mike Joy runs a Vintage T/A car?
It's the black #89 with gold stripes 65/66 A/S coupe??
https://youtu.be/PdqKEs18WuI (https://youtu.be/PdqKEs18WuI)
jim p
That car belongs to Kenny Epsman who frequently provides one of his "stable" for Mike to drive when he is out here on the west coast. They are long time friends.
2018 GT1 runoffs at Sonoma lots of track views. The Gulf Mustang body got robbed off my car to fix that one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaI0_O_PCyQ
His original body took a hit earlier - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbvS-FnTizY
My 2016 Shelby GT350R Does not have tow hooks in the front or the rear and I'm getting some information that ZL one makes a good tow hook for the front, does this track require a front tow hook to run open track?
Didn't last time we ran there
Can't find when and where the Black Shirt Gathering is on the schedule.
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/187-080721154336.jpeg)
I'm driving my '68 Shelby from Sacramento area (no trailer) to the event and am looking for details on secured overnight parking. From what I'm reading on the forum the best place to leave your car overnight is at the track. It is hard to find parking in the paved area (I believe this is referred to as the paddock area) during the daytime and was wondering if one were to leave their car over night do you have to have a space rented or make prior arrangements to ensure a spot? Then there is the issue of getting from the track to the Host hotel. Does anyone know if Uber runs out there? A lot has changed since SAAC-13
I would love to go to the convention as a spectator. I have never been, and I don't own a Shelby. Would love to see some track action and the car shows. Is it possible just to go and hang out? Do I need to buy tickets? Or register?
Quote from: Dkutz on July 11, 2021, 09:50:11 PM
I would love to go to the convention as a spectator. I have never been, and I don't own a Shelby. Would love to see some track action and the car shows. Is it possible just to go and hang out? Do I need to buy tickets? Or register?
The club's moto is ownership not required only enthusiasm . ;)
Quote from: Bob Gaines on July 11, 2021, 11:01:47 PM
Quote from: Dkutz on July 11, 2021, 09:50:11 PM
I would love to go to the convention as a spectator. I have never been, and I don't own a Shelby. Would love to see some track action and the car shows. Is it possible just to go and hang out? Do I need to buy tickets? Or register?
The club's moto is ownership not required only enthusiasm . ;)
That's great, but do I need to pay full registration just to come watch/look?
NO
BRING YOUR CASH on Friday. I'm bringing my Bill Neale and SAAC art collection. All rolled and never displayed. I've got a PDF if anyone wants to reserve some of them. Also some diecasts and even Hey Little Cobra - the LP not one of those little 45s.
Please send pdf to eb847@yahoo.com
Still looking for a Blue/Gold and a White/Gold 1966 Hertz cars to fill out the 2021 MCACN Hertz Invitational
If anyone sees one of these unicorns at the SAAC Convention please have them contact me for information
Participants will receive "Gifts of Unspeakable Value" ( @i.e. "A goodie bag") unique items not to ever be repeated
Reward for any leads that pan out
Contact
Steve.w.mcdonald@juno.com
What and where is SAAC 46 check in?
Quote from: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on July 19, 2021, 04:34:07 PM
Still looking for a Blue/Gold and a White/Gold 1966 Hertz cars to fill out the 2021 MCACN Hertz Invitational
If anyone sees one of these unicorns at the SAAC Convention please have them contact me for information
Participants will receive "Gifts of Unspeakable Value" ( @i.e. "A goodie bag") unique items not to ever be repeated
Reward for any leads that pan out
Contact
Steve.w.mcdonald@juno.com
Hope someone finds one of these and gives me a call
Responding in general, are Autokraft Mk4 welcome at the convention. Thanks in advance
Quote from: JCBFFF on July 26, 2021, 12:07:16 AM
Responding in general, are Autokraft Mk4 welcome at the convention. Thanks in advance
Yes ,just like other Ford powered Products.
I'll be in a Hertz Rent a Van. Race car didn't get finished.
Drag race participants , non mandatory meeting at my swap meet space "around" 1PM on Friday for Q and A if needed. First timers are encouraged to be there. "Veterans" , you know the drill. Don't speed on the "return road" , Be polite to ALL track personal. Part of the reason we can do this IS because of the courtesy we display as a group. I receive compliments from the tract every time we do this part of the event. Safety check your car to avoid mishaps that could end up causing you harm!!!!!!!
Randy
Where do I register online for the event? I have gone to the mail page of the Convention and there is no registration form.
I registered through MotorsportsReg.com. I believe registration is closed but if memory serves me right tickets can be purchased at the gate for around $10 more than if you'd gone through the registration.
https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/saac-46-national-convention-sonoma-raceway-shelby-american-automobile-club-184989
Has anyone received the full schedule for the weekend?
Quote from: john777 on July 27, 2021, 07:28:54 PM
Has anyone received the full schedule for the weekend?
http://saac46.com/schedule/
The schedule on the website doesn't mention the vintage race.
What about the Bay area toll bridges. I understand that they no longer take cash???? 8)
They will send a nice letter after you go across, with convenient ways to pay their fee... 8)
So they do that for rental cars and out of state plates?
Quote from: Don Johnston on July 28, 2021, 01:48:58 PM
So they do that for rental cars and out of state plates?
They send it to the registered owner and the rental company will charge your credit card after they get the bill.
I've been cleaning out stuff to bring and sell at the convention - I figure I can bring about 1/4 of it. I did come across this - are we going to have neat name tags at 46?
(https://i.imgur.com/toxx250m.jpg)
Certified or is it certifiable packrat
In reference to the writing below the image above !
Packrat ! I get that from my other half all the time !
I prefer this cartoon ;)
Mike
Hope you guys all have a great time at Sonoma, I really enjoyed Charlotte in '87 & Elkhart Lake in '97.
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on July 28, 2021, 02:12:59 PM
Quote from: Don Johnston on July 28, 2021, 01:48:58 PM
So they do that for rental cars and out of state plates?
They send it to the registered owner and the rental company will charge your credit card after they get the bill.
I've been cleaning out stuff to bring and sell at the convention - I figure I can bring about 1/4 of it. I did come across this - are we going to have neat name tags at 46?
(https://i.imgur.com/toxx250m.jpg)
Certified or is it certifiable packrat
I have always liked the idea of name tags to help identify people that you know a name/online avatar but not the face that goes with it or know a face but forgot the name.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on July 28, 2021, 06:08:45 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on July 28, 2021, 02:12:59 PM
Quote from: Don Johnston on July 28, 2021, 01:48:58 PM
So they do that for rental cars and out of state plates?
They send it to the registered owner and the rental company will charge your credit card after they get the bill.
I've been cleaning out stuff to bring and sell at the convention - I figure I can bring about 1/4 of it. I did come across this - are we going to have neat name tags at 46?
(https://i.imgur.com/toxx250m.jpg)
Certified or is it certifiable packrat
I have always liked the idea of name tags to help identify people that you know a name/online avatar but not the face that goes with it or know a face but forgot the name.
Me too.
Initial prep...
1st image rotated...;-)
(looks like Brittany with Parchment?)
Thanks for rotating that first pic...yes it's Brittany with parchment.
More from NorCal...
For trucks/trailers that aren't racing, are we parking at the hotel? Also, is check in at the hotel?
Convention check in is at the track. 8)
Quote from: JD on July 29, 2021, 04:45:19 PM
1st image rotated...;-)
(looks like Brittany with Parchment?)
That '67 appears to be #01331 a BB/Parchment GT500 (not confirmed)
Oh wow have fun guys ,wish i could've made it
Quote from: Richstang on July 29, 2021, 10:23:19 PM
Quote from: JD on July 29, 2021, 04:45:19 PM
1st image rotated...;-)
(looks like Brittany with Parchment?)
That '67 appears to be #01331 a BB/Parchment GT500 (not confirmed)
Yes this is car #1331 :)
Everyone is reved up to get reved up on the track tomorrow. Let the fun begin! 8)
Planning to come up Saturday and unfortunately I missed registration.
What is the price to get in at the gate? Thanks
Made it up from San Diego. Looking forward to meeting everyone.
Beautiful car and trailer, congratulations and have fun!
Quote from: 6s341 on July 29, 2021, 07:12:55 PM
More from NorCal...
That looks like Leno's Ford GT
There are not many Burnt Amber 1967 Shelby's running around making the appearance of this car one of the highlights of SAAC 46. And it is a very early car #85. There was a second car at Sonoma that was originally Burnt Amber but is painted red now. There was discussion that some Burnt Amber cars came with white rocker stripes while this one received black. Personally, I like the black and also no LeMans stripes over the top.
Pics from today.
Cheers
Wow wow wow! Thanks for the photos. I'm missing out on all the fun.
Quote from: JWH on July 31, 2021, 10:53:14 PM
There are not many Burnt Amber 1967 Shelby's running around making it one of the highlights of SAAC 46. This is car #85. There was a second car that was originally Burnt Amber but is painted red now.
Thanks for posting these photos.
The owner of the '67 #0085 likes SAAC conventions at Sonoma, CA (but not Fontana).
That car has been at the last three (35, 43, and now 46)
Those are terrific garage photos
Anyone know if the Yellow MKIV is an original (J6) or another continuation?
Please keep the photos coming. :)
Thank you so much to everyone for the pictures
I really appreciate it
My 67 is located in the Bay Area but could not make it
Father duty calls and I am caddy for my son in a golf tournament in Dominican Republic
Hopefully next time
Take care everyone
I believe the yellow Mk4 is the original '67 Sebring winner but not 100%
Here are a few more from yesterday.
Did anyone announce the location of the next convention
Quote from: CSX2601 on August 01, 2021, 03:47:36 PM
I believe the yellow Mk4 is the original '67 Sebring winner but not 100%
Here are a few more from yesterday.
Those are very focused on center photos! Nice!
Thanks again
The yellow Sebring car didn't run those side reverse C-stripes...it just had a rocker stripe.
(not that the owner couldn't add them, but as the Sebring winner it's doubtful)
Happened to catch the spin at the beginning of the Vintage Race.
https://youtu.be/QCawCMJaork
The rest of the 3 min just shows the lead cars coming by. The two red cars at the front swapped places a couple times.
The race was entertaining! Thanks to SAAC and NorCal SAAC for another great convention!
Hey 6s341 ... I'm guessing that was you in the car marked 341? You two in the lead were certainly going at it! Was fun to watch, too!
This car would be a beast to spend a couple of hours in the drivers seat. Note the open exhaust pipes right behind your helmet. And interesting the coil is just over the drivers shoulder inside the car.
I had the good fortune to ride down the elevator at the hotel Saturday morning on the way to breakfast with Ken Mann. The elevator ride is kinda quiet and so I asked Ken if he brought a car to the convention. He said he did not but that he restored a Carryover that would be judged on Saturday. Ken owns Pacific Pony Cars in Oregon. Here Ken is prepping #242 for judging including installing correct spark plugs in addition to cleaning. Very nice guy and a beautiful car. I hope it did well in the judging.
Edit - I am told that #242 earned Gold in the judging. Congrats!
$9.99 a gallon for Sunoco 100 octane right at the track
There were so many impressive vehicles at the convention, but special mention for this rig. The front hauler is towing the rear trailer - both equipped with awnings - carrying cars and what looked like a pretty complete shop.
The BRDC crest in the middle of the door is the British Racing Drivers Club crest according to the poster along side #98. Great Ken Miles history. And this car was run on the track and was very, very quick.
I believe someone has posted videos of the Vintage Race Saturday afternoon. Two red GT350s, one wearing the number 314 on its door and one wearing 341 on the door were bumper-to-bumper nearly the entire race with at least 3 lead changes. GREAT racing.
The drag racing on Friday was fun to watch also. There was a '71-''73 Ranchero (not sure of the year but think Starsky & Hutch front end painted brown with a pickup bed in back) and also a turd brown Station Wagon that not only ran well on the drag strip but threw down some nice laps during the open track session. Surprisingly, I did not see a Tesla line up for a pass. BUT! there was a Tesla model S running open track. "Hello Elon, uh yeah, I need a new set of brakes. I know the car is only two months old but these just didn't wear well."
A huge thank you to everyone who organized and volunteered to make this a most enjoyable weekend! And to everyone who was able and willing to bring a car.
Thank you for posting. The fastest Ford was a newer GT500 that ran 6 10 second passes with the fastest being 10.113@142+ MPH . This was on DOT tires!!!! The group of cars was excellent and the drivers were EXCELLENT!!!!! ZERO problems , no loss of run time and an excellent commendation from the track officials AGAIN. We are THE BEST group that they have had. Car preparation , respectful drivers , and enthusiastic as well.
THANK YOU to ALL participants and all those who made it happen!
Ranfy Gillis , Drag Race Coordinator.
Ken Miles son Peter rode with Rex Myers AM gt40 around the track an d i got photos but dont know how to post them anybody else got photos they could post of this as i think Peters ride in a real gt40 was very KOOL!
Ed if you send them to me via email I will post them
Another fabulous event. Thanks to all the SAAC and NorCal workers and voulnteers, planners and coordinators that made this so enjoyable. And thank you for all of those who so many amazing vehicles to show and to go. I just love tis track and hotel location. Great evening program as well. 8)
Reality check
1967 vs 2020 GT500
My 67 ran 14.5
His 20 ran 10.0
Super fun!!
Photo of Peter Miles and Rex Myers.
Quote from: 1331 on August 02, 2021, 11:11:18 AM
Reality check
1967 vs 2020 GT500
My 67 ran 14.5
His 20 ran 10.0
Super fun!!
But looks to me like you got the jump on him. Certainly a better hole shot.
66 GT350 2020 Heritage 350R and 2011 Shelby GT350. Parking lot at the host hotel.
Any t-shirts remaining???
Steve
How was the attendance?
I went to SAAC Fontana with my kid and Kiwi and the number of people was low by any standard.
what were the awards given for 1966gt350 entrants?
some very nice cars
Yes to T-Bone68...thanks for posting the videos! 8)
Just a couple of photos from SAAC 46. One from the Friday night social, one from the Sunday Car show. Thanks to Jay Talbott, Ron Richards and the rest of the SAAC team for great event.
More photos...
A few more...
I have the 1:18 model of that red Hertz racecar. I take it that it won the race?
One of the highlights of the weekend was my son meeting Chuck Cantwell and Peter Miles.
Thank you everyone for the pictures and the video.
A great weekend! A great event! We had a lot of fun!
Thank you to everyone that helped put on this event! All of the different activities were great! Putting on this event is not an easy task and it is obvious how much hard work is put into it to make everything work. Amazing job! Well done!
I met a ton of people. It was a great time. I think the name tags were a good idea. Peter Miles was right.... this group is made of great people. Life long friendships were made and I am looking forward to that.
Quote from: JWH on July 31, 2021, 10:53:14 PM
There are not many Burnt Amber 1967 Shelby's running around making the appearance of this car one of the highlights of SAAC 46. And it is a very early car #85. There was a second car at Sonoma that was originally Burnt Amber but is painted red now. There was discussion that some Burnt Amber cars came with white rocker stripes while this one received black. Personally, I like the black and also no LeMans stripes over the top.
FYI; the black side stripes were not SAI factory applied on any '67's and are not in the correct location on the fender. There were no black stripes availible on any '67's. They were all factory applied as white except on white cars which received blue side stripes.
Other personalized owner added items include the wheel lip moldings, chrome headlight trim rings, monte carlo bar, and GT500 style air cleaner. Despite the deviations from factory details, it is a sharp color and very nice looking car. It is a treat to see it at the Sonoma SAAC conventions. Thanks again for sharing the photos.
Quote from: CharlesTurner on August 03, 2021, 10:36:06 AM
One of the highlights of the weekend was my son meeting Chuck Cantwell and Peter Miles.
That's pretty cool. My son met Pete Brock at Fontana 8 years ago so I know the feeling. Good times.
Another excellent video of SAAC 46 - This one by Casey Hudson
https://youtu.be/eqiJDbunQHY (https://youtu.be/eqiJDbunQHY)
Quote from: silverton_ford on August 03, 2021, 07:17:44 PM
Another excellent video of SAAC 46 - This one by Casey Hudson
https://youtu.be/eqiJDbunQHY (https://youtu.be/eqiJDbunQHY)
Whose was the SN95 GT1 car @ 1:42 in the video?
I decided not to finish and bring mine due to noise limits
(https://i.imgur.com/EzZhq0zl.jpg)
We're anxious to see more pictures! any photo album links?
Any popular vote pics ('67 Shelby's ;D)
How about some concours photos?
PLEASE
Quote from: Doug B on August 03, 2021, 02:09:58 AM
Just a couple of photos from SAAC 46. One from the Friday night social, one from the Sunday Car show. Thanks to Jay Talbott, Ron Richards and the rest of the SAAC team for great event.
How many vintage cars showed up approximately. Car show had 30 cars?
A few more...
more great photos - thanks!
(any one know the number of the early '67 with the supercharger?)
JD I believe it was #83
Craig, Thanks!
Quote from: csheff on August 06, 2021, 12:29:37 PM
JD I believe it was #83
I don't believe that is #0083. Yes it was supposedly at SAAC 46 but, there are too many details that are different.
Yes the new owner could have changed many things, but I don't think that is the case here...such as;
-white shocks vs red
-no shroud vs shroud with the dreaded Mustang caution fan sticker
-both had the Monte Carlo bar removed, but the photos of #0083 show normal bolts vs flat plugs on the SAAC 46 car
-wiring on the RT tower of SAAC 46 car and #0083 has none
I could go on but will leave it there. We will need some evidence to change my mind.
To help with questions...Paxton powered! It was a great looking '67 pitted near us, but I didn't get the number...
More photos...
Had a great time at the convention. Job well done by all.
Great vintage race Saturday! The two leaders put on a great show!
Greek
Quote from: 6s341 on August 06, 2021, 03:54:20 PM
To help with questions...Paxton powered! It was a great looking '67 pitted near us, but I didn't get the number...
Thanks - she's looking good! (Whatever number she is)
Quote from: JD on August 06, 2021, 11:08:33 PM
Quote from: 6s341 on August 06, 2021, 03:54:20 PM
To help with questions...Paxton powered! It was a great looking '67 pitted near us, but I didn't get the number...
Thanks - she's looking good! (Whatever number she is)
#33
^^^Thanks Jon ;-)
(Car #33 was originally a Black car, maybe it's been repainted and had some "updates" over the years, not much in the Registry on it)
Quote from: 6s341 on August 06, 2021, 04:02:16 PM
More photos...
Didn't know the Essex Wire was there. Nice! I had a ride in the Wire in 1993 back at SAAC in Watkins Glen. It really rekindled my desire for Shelby's cars (that had gone dormant during university).
Quote from: deathsled on August 07, 2021, 12:29:21 PM
Quote from: 6s341 on August 06, 2021, 04:02:16 PM
More photos...
Didn't know the Essex Wire was there. Nice! I had a ride in the Wire in 1993 back at SAAC in Watkins Glen. It really rekindled my desire for Shelby's cars (that had gone dormant during university).
I had Kopec sign my grandsons Lane Detail model of his R Model. He now has a Cantwell signed 001 model and this one.
Quote from: JD on August 07, 2021, 11:58:58 AM
^^^Thanks Jon ;-)
(Car #33 was originally a Black car, maybe it's been repainted and had some "updates" over the years, not much in the Registry on it)
The Paxton '67 is #0083 as Craig mentioned previously. He confirmed that with a few more photos by email.
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on August 07, 2021, 04:07:18 PM
Quote from: deathsled on August 07, 2021, 12:29:21 PM
Quote from: 6s341 on August 06, 2021, 04:02:16 PM
More photos...
Didn't know the Essex Wire was there. Nice! I had a ride in the Wire in 1993 back at SAAC in Watkins Glen. It really rekindled my desire for Shelby's cars (that had gone dormant during university).
I had Kopec sign my grandsons Lane Detail model of his R Model. He now has a Cantwell signed 001 model and this one.
Way cool!
Quote from: Richstang on August 07, 2021, 06:11:24 PM
Quote from: JD on August 07, 2021, 11:58:58 AM
^^^Thanks Jon ;-)
(Car #33 was originally a Black car, maybe it's been repainted and had some "updates" over the years, not much in the Registry on it)
The Paxton '67 is #0083 as Craig mentioned previously. He confirmed that with a few more photos by email.
Gentlemen:
I must apologize for making such a grievous error. It is #83, I looked too quickly at the photo. This is how wrong information gets spread. Enhanced the lighting.
Thanks guys!
JD, I'm populating a list of all the '67 in attendance...around 11 cars.
Help from 'csheff' put me very close to getting this all done.
I'll need to see more photos to confirm the details on a few and maybe help on the others.
This very small overhead photo is helpful, but hopefully we can get a better image of it too.
Great- thanks you two.
Could someone please enlighten me on what's correct for the shocks and also the "dreaded Mustang caution fan sticker?" Sounds like I have some simple fixes to make...
Despite best intentions we never did get a picture of the three early cars together, but #0078, #0083, and #0085 were in attendance.
The professional photographer got some terrific shots of #0083 on the track, and see the first link for a good video of the drag race. I drove the hell out of that car!
A few more shots, and Chuck Cantwell signed my car!
some great shots 83
Now we know the Red one was 78
That's correct. #0078 was originally a rare Bronze Metallic car, just like #0085!
Quote from: 67#0083 on August 08, 2021, 02:27:25 PM
Could someone please enlighten me on what's correct for the shocks and also the "dreaded Mustang caution fan sticker?" Sounds like I have some simple fixes to make...
Shocks would have been (for your car's production period at San Jose - where they were installed) FoMoCo marked adjustable Gabriel shocks front and rear painted semi-gloss black.
Fronts have a distinctive "washer" with a series of holes and a notch that is welded just below the top attachment point that is visible in the engine compartment.
Some more info found in a thread specific topic is available found it using the search engine
http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=7058.0 (http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=7058.0)
The CAUTION FAN sticker was a safety campaign in the early 70's where Ford was concerned about the hazard a spinning fan could be - for one reason or another. To address they they sent out 100's of thousands of these stickers to ever registered Ford owner they had or could get records of, inserted one in each of the service replacement radiator shroud being made and tons of them to the dealerships with instructions to place one on every car in inventory and those coming in for servicing. The original design and application before this time was limited to a handful of specific Ford models where they only has a partial shroud
Because every original owner of a Ford at the time got one many of them installed them on their car only to be found decade or more later on an other wise unrestored car lead many people who saw or bought those cars to assume that the sticker was original since so many had them in place, In the 80-90's at shows they were expected until we learned the whole history
Interesting- thanks for the info!!
Yes, it was a great convention and my first showing #78. Let's get those early cars together for a photo shoot!!
Kevin, let's do it!
Ryan, I am in!!
some pictures from SAAC 46 -
Dave
a few more
more
last ones
Quote from: J_Speegle on August 08, 2021, 06:44:38 PM
Fronts have a distinctive "washer" with a series of holes and a notch that is welded just below the top attachment point that is visible in the engine compartment.
Are you talking about the washers welded to the shock mount itself? If I remember they were part of the Ford export package - brace, stiffener on cowl and shock mounts.
(https://i.imgur.com/BH4GWjtm.jpg)
No it is on the shock shaft just below the mounting eyelet. Sort of like a thin disc with some holes in it. Unique to Gabriel brand shocks , but not "all" of them , mainly adjustables , even later drag shocks.
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on August 11, 2021, 02:52:31 PM
Are you talking about the washers welded to the shock mount itself? If I remember they were part of the Ford export package - brace, stiffener on cowl and shock mounts.
No the washers as described has four holes in each and a "notch" to help with adjusting the shock. In the picture this "notch" is indicated by the red line. These "washers" are attached to the top section of the shock. Top end of the moving shaft
Colors differ period when they were produced
This details is shared by original FRONT ONLY shocks. Did see one confused owner once make and install them on the rear ones also ::)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/15/6-110821171212-15837269.jpeg)
Hope this helps
^^^ Jeff already posted, but here's another...
Can anyone offer some more information on these extraordinarily beautiful wheels:
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/52-130821073544.jpeg)
I could hardly believe my eyes!
Has someone actually had CNC machined billet aluminum wheels made that look like 1967 Shelby hubcaps??
OUTSTANDING if so!!!
Thanks,
Kieth
Quote from: SFM66H on August 13, 2021, 07:44:25 AM
Can anyone offer some more information on these extraordinarily beautiful wheels:
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/52-130821073544.jpeg)
I could hardly believe my eyes!
Has someone actually had CNC machined billet aluminum wheels made that look like 1967 Shelby hubcaps??
OUTSTANDING if so!!!
Thanks,
Kieth
I saw them as well. Has to do a double-take because I thought my eyes were deceiving me. Very interesting to say the least.
They look like they are a larger diameter than 15", tire sidewalls are not tall ... maybe 17"?
Yes, they did look larger than 15" and wider.
I talked to the guy for a while. He gave me one of his stickers. He was there for a while on Sat.
so is the car a clone?
yes JD, I forgot the name of the company that made it. It looked nice. If u go to the info on the sticker his site, may be able to ask him
Quote from: 427heaven on August 05, 2021, 04:30:22 PM
Quote from: Doug B on August 03, 2021, 02:09:58 AM
Just a couple of photos from SAAC 46. One from the Friday night social, one from the Sunday Car show. Thanks to Jay Talbott, Ron Richards and the rest of the SAAC team for great event.
How many vintage cars showed up approximately. Car show had 30 cars?
Can anyone verify this? Car show only had 30 cars?
Quote from: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on August 16, 2021, 05:12:32 PM
Quote from: 427heaven on August 05, 2021, 04:30:22 PM
Quote from: Doug B on August 03, 2021, 02:09:58 AM
Just a couple of photos from SAAC 46. One from the Friday night social, one from the Sunday Car show. Thanks to Jay Talbott, Ron Richards and the rest of the SAAC team for great event.
How many vintage cars showed up approximately. Car show had 30 cars?
Can anyone verify this? Car show only had 30 cars?
The overhead photos shared with me show at least 70+ cars (and they appear to be in the early morning)
I took the overhead picture just before the parade laps started. There were 70+ cars at the car show - several had left the show field for the parade laps by the time I snapped the photo. There were also a ton of cars in the paddock and garages that didn't park in the car show.
Count them for yourself.
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/187-170821091920.jpeg)
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/187-170821092105.jpeg)
I should have been more specific, how many VINTAGE cars, there seems to be many non vintage cars present in the show picture. Thanks for the reply.
Looks nice I was afraid the number 30 was accurate. Seems like less and less are the cars are being shown.
I see some really nice cars in the pics
Thanks to all for posting them
I think we set the all-time high mark for the Popular Ballot car show at SAAC-44 at Pitt Race.
Having worked the registration desk at Pittsburg id say you were right. We were making registration forms as we ran out of the 150 they had printed.
It looks like some real nice cars were at the car shoe. Pictures anyone?
Sometimes when you here crickets after a question was asked, it speaks volumes. Doesnt have to be exact, just curious?
Quote from: 427heaven on August 22, 2021, 11:30:06 AM
Sometimes when you here crickets after a question was asked, it speaks volumes. Doesn't have to be exact, just curious?
My first thought is, if you can't pick out vintage cars in the reasonably good quality picture, how important can it be to you. But that's being kind of snarky. Perhaps you have poor eyesight. So to give you a polite answer, about 50 vintage cars. I didn't verify every Cobra, but my guess is more replicas than originals. Two Ford GTs, at least another three in the garages. Probably another 50 vintage cars in the paddock. Hard to keep up with track cars as they come and go. I know I didn't see the '68 engineering car, but was told it was there, but wouldn't start.
I had three days of enjoyment there.
Quote from: jguyer on August 22, 2021, 04:10:30 PM..... about 50 vintage cars. I didn't verify every Cobra, but my guess is more replicas than originals. Two Ford GTs, at least another three in the garages. Probably another 50 vintage cars in the paddock.
How many of the Ford GT were "replicas"? There was even a Daytona
Clone er Coupe. We are seeing fewer and fewer "real" cars at conventions. It's all just a matter of value. You see some fresh restorations because the owners need to bring them and have them judged for that value adding trophy. You won't see them next year unless they have corrected problems and want a higher rating to make it worth more.
More and more cars are disappearing into multi Shelby collections with owners who are not into the club scene or interested in driving their "artwork" or much less in flogging it on the track. Heck some of those owners have other brands and just bought a SA car for it's investment value.
As far as track time goes the newer cars (even a base Mustang GT) will lay down much better lap times and take a far lesser skill level to do it so there is no reason to risk the value of a classic. OK rant over. I don't even want to go into how many trailers that were at SAAC1 vs 46.
Quote from: jguyer on August 22, 2021, 04:10:30 PM
Quote from: 427heaven on August 22, 2021, 11:30:06 AM
Sometimes when you here crickets after a question was asked, it speaks volumes. Doesn't have to be exact, just curious?
My first thought is, if you can't pick out vintage cars in the reasonably good quality picture, how important can it be to you. But that's being kind of snarky. Perhaps you have poor eyesight. So to give you a polite answer, about 50 vintage cars. I didn't verify every Cobra, but my guess is more replicas than originals. Two Ford GTs, at least another three in the garages. Probably another 50 vintage cars in the paddock. Hard to keep up with track cars as they come and go. I know I didn't see the '68 engineering car, but was told it was there, but wouldn't start.
I had three days of enjoyment there.
Since we asked a very simple question of how many vintage cars showed up I was just looking for a simple number, thats all, no more or no less. I was not there and dont know how many tents, parking lots, storage areas where cars might be positioned. Now to get to your statement, yes I could see the picture very well, and was not looking for a snarky answer so a polite answer was well received. Nobody cares if you had a good time, and no one asked that question of you, so simple questions just require simple answers. Thanks!
Next time I will let the crickets reply.
https://sportscardigest.com/saac-46-shelby-cars-converge-on-sears-point/?mc_cid=6e5b5c0534&mc_eid=0c5af60236 (https://sportscardigest.com/saac-46-shelby-cars-converge-on-sears-point/?mc_cid=6e5b5c0534&mc_eid=0c5af60236)