Here is a list of the Shelby products made 1962-1970 at Barrett Jackson Scottsdale that go up for auction next week, March 20-27, 2021
Lot # Car VIN Link Results (w/buyer fees)
Friday March 26, 2021
989.1 - 1969 GT350 H 9F02M481896 - https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-SHELBY-GT350-H-244525 (https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-SHELBY-GT350-H-244525) $85,800.00
1038 - 1968 GT350 Conv 8T03J192414 - https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1968-SHELBY-GT350-CONVERTIBLE-244891 (https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1968-SHELBY-GT350-CONVERTIBLE-244891) $149,600.00
1111 - 1969 GT500 9F02R480142 - https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-SHELBY-GT500-245714 (https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-SHELBY-GT500-245714) $115,500.00
Saturday March 27, 2021
1282 - 1967 GT500 67412F8A00969 - https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1967-SHELBY-GT500-245712 (https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1967-SHELBY-GT500-245712) $165,000.00
1300 - 1970 GT500 0F02R482800 - https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1970-SHELBY-GT500-244583 (https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1970-SHELBY-GT500-244583) $217,800.00
1304.1 - 1966 GT350 SFM6S1765 - https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1966-SHELBY-GT350-244797 (https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1966-SHELBY-GT350-244797) $247,500.00
1331 - 1967 GT500 67400F2A01889 - https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1967-SHELBY-GT500-244319 (https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1967-SHELBY-GT500-244319) $214,500.00
1338 - 1968 GT500KR 8T02R21617604407 (?) - https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1968-SHELBY-GT500KR-244584 (https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1968-SHELBY-GT500KR-244584) $264,000.00
1368 - 1968 GT500KR Conv 8T03R206115 - https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1968-SHELBY-GT500KR-CONVERTIBLE-244655 (https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1968-SHELBY-GT500KR-CONVERTIBLE-244655) $220,000.00
1370 - 1968 GT500 Conv 8T03S169262 - https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1968-SHELBY-GT500-CONVERTIBLE-244952 (https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1968-SHELBY-GT500-CONVERTIBLE-244952) $143,000.00
1395 - 1965 GT350 SFM5S553 - https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1965-SHELBY-GT350-244434 (https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1965-SHELBY-GT350-244434) $962,500.00
1396 - 1966 Cobra 427 CSX3015 - https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1966-SHELBY-COBRA-427-SUPER-SNAKE-245431 (https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1966-SHELBY-COBRA-427-SUPER-SNAKE-245431) $5,500,000.00
1397 - 1968 GT500 EFI Prototype 8T02S113607-00101 - https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1968-SHELBY-GT500-EFI-PROTOTYPE-245468 (https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1968-SHELBY-GT500-EFI-PROTOTYPE-245468) $396,000.00
1429 - 1969 GT500 conv 9F03R480072 - https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-SHELBY-GT500-CONVERTIBLE-246130 (https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-SHELBY-GT500-CONVERTIBLE-246130) $242,000.00
1438 - 1967 GT500 67400F7A01589 - https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1967-SHELBY-GT500-245442 (https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1967-SHELBY-GT500-245442) $165,000.00
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Great Job..Brian !!
Thank you for this great information!
Thanks Brian for taking the time to do this. Gary
Excellent, thanks!
Thanks again Brian this helps big time.
very nice thanks
Great job Brian.It saves me hours.
Brad
Thank you for the kind words.
All prices from today are uploaded. Tomorrow will be the exciting day!
Thanks, Brian!
Side note: I cannot believe the recent prices for 68 GT350 convertibles. Great cars, and it's amazing how much they are bringing.
This is a nice recap of Friday's events and top sellers from BJ's website.
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Media/Home/Reader/2021-scottsdale-auction-day-seven-highlights (https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Media/Home/Reader/2021-scottsdale-auction-day-seven-highlights)
What is this about a Hemi Coronet going for $1.5 million?
Quote from: Bob Gaines on March 16, 2021, 09:21:39 PM
Thanks again Brian this helps big time.
+1 great help! Thanks!
Does this prove what direction things are going in? Put the one or two naysayers on here out to pasture... FANTASTIC, BJ AUCTIONS still king of the auctions. Like your favorite radio station... The hits just keep on coming. ;D
Thanks for compiling the list, Brian. I noted there isn't a single 1967 GT350 up for auction this time.
Will be interesting to see where prices of today's auctions end.
Quote from: Shelby_r_b on March 27, 2021, 08:57:39 AM
Thanks, Brian!
Side note: I cannot believe the recent prices for 68 GT350 convertibles. Great cars, and it's amazing how much they are bringing.
That red one was a color change (from Lime gold) with 25 year old paint and driver grade... ??? ???
CSX6124 https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1965-SHELBY-COBRA-CSX-6000-ROADSTER-245177 $217,800
CSX4031 https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1965-SHELBY-COBRA-CSX-4000-ROADSTER-245432 $209,000
Carroll's Personal Super Snake CSX3015 https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1966-SHELBY-COBRA-427-SUPER-SNAKE-245431 $5,500,000
This is the 3rd time Barrett Jackson is selling the car. They are the only ones to have sold it - since the IRS - and they have made far more money on each sale than the car's original build cost. A couple more auctions and Craig will have made enough money on commissions to buy it for zero out of pocket.
The nay sayer is here! 8)
These auction threads are becoming as predictable as the "where is the next SAAC convention?" threads.
Auction prices have historically been 30-40% over full retail. Subtract that from the numbers posted.
Time for a reality check - 1968 and 1969 convertibles were routinely selling at auctions for over $350,000.
The six digit numbers are attractive, but certainly not unheard of.
So far 68 and 69 selling pretty strong! Since last two auctions!
Sure,I want to sell my car at the lowest possible price......Sorry,I will go with best possible dollar amount. Sure,I could offer at local yard sale for best offer,but will take the BEST offer at best venue available to me. The market changes from month to month....coast to coast.....serious sellers will seek serious buyers. That is why the Conolec Shelby is at BJ,not BAT. LET THE HIGHEST BIDDER WIN........
Just what is "retail" ?
I missed out on the 68/69 verts over $350K damn it. When where was that? It is possible in the future.
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 27, 2021, 12:02:35 PM
The nay sayer is here! 8)
These auction threads are becoming as predictable as the "where is the next SAAC convention?" threads.
Auction prices have historically been 30-40% over full retail. Subtract that from the numbers posted.
Time for a reality check - 1968 and 1969 convertibles were routinely selling at auctions for over $350,000.
The six digit numbers are attractive, but certainly not unheard of.
Pete: Where are you getting all this private sale data that supports this? I think your nay sayer posts are also as predictable... ;D ;D
This is very easily explained and I will do that for you
I define full "retail" as the price you can buy one of these cars for any day of the week. You can find these cars at dealerships and with brokers.
Retail is above private sale prices. If a dealer sells a car they are marking the car up to make a profit and cover their expenses. That seems pretty straight forward to me.
I just watched a 1970 fastback sell for $198k. Sounds great! I have also been saying you can expect to pay plus 40% when they go to auction. My guides haven't changed from that statement in 20 years.
Lets see subtract 40% for 198k and you have full retail. Not a high price...an auction price.
I am not telling people how much to sell their cars for, quite the opposite. If you do your homework you wont spend $198k for a car you can buy for $140k.
Are there outcasts and strange things -absolutely.
Where are the private sales coming from? I have been watching the prices for 68/69 Shelbys for 35 years.
If you want to believe the hype, feel free. Maybe you have different observations. Doesn't bother me a bit.
Now on to something more important. Where is next year's convention?
I really hope its the track closest to my house.
😀
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 27, 2021, 06:11:27 PM
Now on to something more important. Where is next year's convention?
I really hope its the track closest to my house.
😀
You may have to move every year to make that happen.
In the late model auto business dealers many times buy their inventory at auctions (for dealers only,not street people) and then mark the price up to meet market price. I wholesaled cars for years and could watch market change from area to area. Mega dealers like Carmax still rely on auctions to fill their lots. Weekly reports (Black book,etc) list sale price averages at many levels. Retail is highest,not lowest. Retail takes into account warranties,etc. I believe the Mecum/BJ auctions are still wholesale as most cars are resold again (retail) Hagerty and similar companies track prices to be accurate in many ways. Documenting sales that "happen" between individuals is not considered reliable. We might see anothe '68 Shelby fb break the $200K again tonight. Should that be included in the mix? Every car has a story. Selling the "story" has become the most profitable twist to "value". 2021 will be very interesting.
Quote from: CharlesTurner on March 27, 2021, 05:31:28 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 27, 2021, 12:02:35 PM
The nay sayer is here! 8)
These auction threads are becoming as predictable as the "where is the next SAAC convention?" threads.
Auction prices have historically been 30-40% over full retail. Subtract that from the numbers posted.
Time for a reality check - 1968 and 1969 convertibles were routinely selling at auctions for over $350,000.
The six digit numbers are attractive, but certainly not unheard of.
Pete: Where are you getting all this private sale data that supports this? I think your nay sayer posts are also as predictable... ;D ;D
I think The Q got to Pete too? All is lost!
Quote from: CharlesTurner on March 27, 2021, 11:32:09 AM
Quote from: Shelby_r_b on March 27, 2021, 08:57:39 AM
Thanks, Brian!
Side note: I cannot believe the recent prices for 68 GT350 convertibles. Great cars, and it's amazing how much they are bringing.
That red one was a color change (from Lime gold) with 25 year old paint and driver grade... ??? ???
...wow. Unbelievable. Thanks for the additional insight, Charles!
If someone didnt believe the hype why choose BJ as a venue to sell the car, Why hype the car on here that it is at the biggest auction of them all ... Scottsdale! Put it in the typical places, penny saver, auto trader, Hemmings and wait and see what happens for that face to face sales pitch. The reason is the price, that the car could possibly attain. The way classic cars change hands today is a lot different then the old fashioned way of making an add and hope someone calls. Best of luck with the sale.
All big new numbers! They're on the rise. Stock market down, car market up
Quote from: shelbydoug on March 27, 2021, 06:55:53 PM
I think The Q got to Pete too? All is lost!
Well, I guess you didn't call him a racist. (Directly)
Quote from: sfm5s081 on March 27, 2021, 10:52:04 PM
All big new numbers! They're on the rise. Stock market down, car market up
Stock market down...where've you been?
Quote from: Hockeylife on March 28, 2021, 01:09:04 AM
Quote from: sfm5s081 on March 27, 2021, 10:52:04 PM
All big new numbers! They're on the rise. Stock market down, car market up
Stock market down...where've you been?
No kidding! Hell of a year for me last year... actually contemplating retirement sooner than originally planned! 8)
Quote from: 2112 on March 27, 2021, 11:15:02 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on March 27, 2021, 06:55:53 PM
I think The Q got to Pete too? All is lost!
Well, I guess you didn't call him a racist. (Directly)
Well it is conspiratorial in a sense that more and more cars seemingly are only getting sold at BJ for the big money and less on Craiglist with a lawn mower as a possible trade in?
Of course a person can only be proven wrong if they give their opinion so many unlike Pete prefer to take the safe position and not. Some like the resulting banter others deflect that into conspiracy theory? Kudos to Pete for stirring the pot and taking the heat for it. ;)
I wouldn't call him a racist although he does have a tendency of preferring certain colors on cars.
Thank you all. I am once again reminded why professionals should not play with amateurs.
Barrett-Jackson wholesale? Good one. You guys had me going for a second.
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 28, 2021, 08:34:58 AM
Thank you all. I am once again reminded why professionals should not play with amateurs.
Barrett-Jackson wholesale? Good one. You guys had me going for a second.
We don't get many CEO's openly posting here even so, I'd think that they all had hedged positions to defend?
Anyone on here have a clue who bought Craig Jackson's 65 GT350 and the Super Snake ?... ???
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 27, 2021, 06:11:27 PM
This is very easily explained and I will do that for you
I define full "retail" as the price you can buy one of these cars for any day of the week. You can find these cars at dealerships and with brokers.
Retail is above private sale prices. If a dealer sells a car they are marking the car up to make a profit and cover their expenses. That seems pretty straight forward to me.
I just watched a 1970 fastback sell for $198k. Sounds great! I have also been saying you can expect to pay plus 40% when they go to auction. My guides haven't changed from that statement in 20 years.
Lets see subtract 40% for 198k and you have full retail. Not a high price...an auction price.
I am not telling people how much to sell their cars for, quite the opposite. If you do your homework you wont spend $198k for a car you can buy for $140k.
Are there outcasts and strange things -absolutely.
Where are the private sales coming from? I have been watching the prices for 68/69 Shelbys for 35 years.
If you want to believe the hype, feel free. Maybe you have different observations. Doesn't bother me a bit.
Now on to something more important. Where is next year's convention?
I really hope its the track closest to my house.
😀
Agree, there will be many ebay "re-list'villes" happening now that BJ upped the "values" LOL. We got one now, the red 66, "wasted away again in re-list-ville" I offered 170K and that might be too much. But I know that car and how the "original owner" took care of it.
Quote from: Rukiddin on March 27, 2021, 06:55:27 PM
In the late model auto business dealers many times buy their inventory at auctions (for dealers only,not street people) and then mark the price up to meet market price. I wholesaled cars for years and could watch market change from area to area. Mega dealers like Carmax still rely on auctions to fill their lots. Weekly reports (Black book,etc) list sale price averages at many levels. Retail is highest,not lowest. Retail takes into account warranties,etc. I believe the Mecum/BJ auctions are still wholesale as most cars are resold again (retail) Hagerty and similar companies track prices to be accurate in many ways. Documenting sales that "happen" between individuals is not considered reliable. We might see anothe '68 Shelby fb break the $200K again tonight. Should that be included in the mix? Every car has a story. Selling the "story" has become the most profitable twist to "value". 2021 will be very interesting.
And many have bought into the hype only a few years later, to sell at the same place for a lot less. The auctioneer with a happy voice says something like, this it the way to buy a car after some guy overspent on it and brings same car back and is now selling at a loss......yes!! BJ makes their good ole money every time! Cha-Ching.
Personally I never watch it and unless I want to overspend, I won't.
Quote from: Wedgeman on March 28, 2021, 11:00:19 AM
Anyone on here have a clue who bought Craig Jackson's 65 GT350 and the Super Snake ?... ???
C'mon we all saw Wicks buy the Super Snake. Those retired postal employees all have 5 mil of disposable cash lying around. Doesn't really matter they will both get hidden away in private collections for 4-5 years. Then they will be dragged out and hit 2 or 3 shows just before the new owners sell them to the next private collection
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 28, 2021, 08:34:58 AM
Thank you all. I am once again reminded why professionals should not play with amateurs.
Barrett-Jackson wholesale? Good one. You guys had me going for a second.
A+ LOL BJ wholesale auction house.....LOL Drunk Suckers auction!
962 500 $ for a regular 1965 GT350 , i can't believe this is a true sale .... ::)
@chrisnos, it's such a ridiculous number- it most likely has to be true. If it was $600k, I'd probably start to wonder
Quote from: chris NOS on March 28, 2021, 01:40:20 PM
962 500 $ for a regular 1965 GT350 , i can't believe this is a true sale .... ::)
Before he owned Little Red he tried to get a million for the Green Hornet. He pulled it when it didn't make his reserve. I wonder how much he'll want for the pair? I predict they'll be on the block together as a package next year.
ya gotta wonder.. anyone there on the block or watching it on FYI ? The bidding was jumping in 25K increments...see anyone in the crowd that was an actual bidder?... :-\
I do know that if I sell my 67 GT350
it won't be where I can't put a reserve on it.
Thats the scary part right there! Holding back many people to go forward with an auction. :-\
Quote from: shelbyhertz66 on March 29, 2021, 10:09:46 AM
I do know that if I sell my 67 GT350
it won't be where I can't put a reserve on it.
Oh come on. You might be on TV for 20 seconds and Craig Jackson wins.
Isn't that enough?
I don't think auctions can be used to set values, cars tend to be individual because of things like condition, originality, numbers matching, owner history etc. I believe that the bottom line take away from the auctions is that the interest continues in Shelby cars from the era.
Look at Mopar they had their day in the sun, now other then Cuda's, 68/69 chargers, and wing cars their is little interest in them. As a whole fully restored correct cars are trading for less then 50% of their value from the mid 2000's.
Shelby even in death continues to draw a crowd.
Quote from: 427hunter on March 29, 2021, 11:31:57 AM
I don't think auctions can be used to set values, cars tend to be individual because of things like condition, originality, numbers matching, owner history etc. I believe that the bottom line take away from the auctions is that the interest continues in Shelby cars from the era.
Look at Mopar they had their day in the sun, now other then Cuda's, 68/69 chargers, and wing cars their is little interest in them. As a whole fully restored correct cars are trading for less then 50% of their value from the mid 2000's.
Shelby even in death continues to draw a crowd.
There are still fewer Shelbys than buyers. That is what drives the price. As you pointed out rare Mopars are also still bringing money. A few years ago there were a lot of restored Model As on the market cheap. Those collectors had aged out and no one was buying. Restored muscle seems to be in the same place right now and being taken over by resto mods. Most of Barrett Jackson's buyers want to drive these cars not stick them away. A 60s performance car without power steering, air conditioning, decent radio and comfortable seats is not what they are looking for. Resto mods bring big money because it took big money to build a good one. I'd say Day 1 BJ sales have some good bargains.
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Quote from: Wedgeman on March 28, 2021, 06:23:27 PM
ya gotta wonder.. anyone there on the block or watching it on FYI ? The bidding was jumping in 25K increments...see anyone in the crowd that was an actual bidder?... :-\
At different levels bids have to be of a certain amount. It's also a trick to show the other bidder you are serious and try to scare him off.
Quote from: chris NOS on March 28, 2021, 01:40:20 PM
962 500 $ for a regular 1965 GT350 , i can't believe this is a true sale .... ::)
I'd like to know what the deal is with that as well. If you know something and you don't want to post it publicly send me a DM.
Even if I don't like you I'll read it.......