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On the Virginia Mustang Site they posted pictures from SAAC 41 Mid Ohio. One picture in particular shows a green 1966 GT350 with 10 spokes and California plates. Does anyone know the VIN for this car and can it be confirmed that they are original issue? I want to include in my data base.

Since I don't know how to post pictures, and there seems to be some problem at the present, here is a link that will include the picture:

http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2016/06/recap-saac-41-part-1.html

Just scroll down and you will see the picture.

Thanks,

Dennis

I can't read the number on the site. What is it?

UAH063   This would be a stretch for me but it is "possible". "Most '66's were R & S for the first letter. I think this was a plate issued in '67 or possibly '68. The switch to blue was done in '69 so it has to be in that range.
    Randy

Randy:

Thanks for posting the number. That is the number I see it as well.

I have 1966 plates (only 4 recorded so far) that begin with the letter U that range from UIR through UNN.
 
The 1967 plate numbers I currently have (11 so far) that begin with the letter U range from UIF through UZF.

I believe that the UAH could fit within the period these cars were sold.

Hopefully someone will know the owner who could validate with historic documents.
Appreciate your input.

Dennis

Quote from: gt350cs on April 13, 2018, 01:19:38 PM
On the Virginia Mustang Site they posted pictures from SAAC 41 Mid Ohio. One picture in particular shows a green 1966 GT350 with 10 spokes and California plates. Does anyone know the VIN for this car and can it be confirmed that they are original issue? I want to include in my data base.

Since I don't know how to post pictures, and there seems to be some problem at the present, here is a link that will include the picture:

http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2016/06/recap-saac-41-part-1.html

Just scroll down and you will see the picture.

Thanks,

Dennis

Dennis,

I just went through my pictures. Randy is correct, the number is "UAH 063".

Unfortunately, I do not have the serial number of the car. Apparently, I never caught it with the hood up, because I always take a picture of the serial number plate also.

The only additional information that I can provide is that it had a 1966 Ohio license plate on the back.

-Brant

 I am a California native besides Shelby owner. It takes allot of the guess work out of the equation. Happy to help when I have something to add.
      Randy

Brant:

Based upon your reply, and the 1966 Ohio plate this car could have an original Ohio registration, which would be just as important to document for the records. Hope others will respond as well. I am not looking for "JUST" California plates, but all other states as well. All GT350 and GT500. I will also begin Cobras as well, if anyone wants to contribute information.

Thanks,

Dennis

I agree it could be possible if the car was sold in the Los Angeles or other large city in California, but think it is a stretch as well.  My car is an April 1966 sale out of San Luis Obispo, CA and starts with SAL.  Also, a possibility the car was first sold in 1967, as it might have languished on a dealer's lot for a while.

Greek

Quote from: gt350hr on April 13, 2018, 01:49:01 PM
UAH063   This would be a stretch for me but it is "possible". "Most '66's were R & S for the first letter. ...............

Agree that even a car sold in LA area (where they went through the assigned plates quicker than elsewhere  it would be a stretch unless the car sat on the lot for a long time - into 67.  Other possibility as mentioned would be an out of state transfer after the car was new but the registry would give you the original dealership that would provide the insight on that possibility

If your looking for something to use as a reference for hunting some plates for a car you have than was originally sold in Cal I suggest you look for help/examples elsewhere

As a follow up.  IDed the car and it (according to the Registry) was not sold until almost have way through the 67 production year (Dec 66) explaining the unusual Calif license plate number sequence as we suspected. Just sat around SAI for a long time in the back lot it seems. 

" ....Picked up by the original owner Jim Marxxxx (San Francisco, CA) 12/8/66 at Hi-Performance Motors, Inc (El Segundo, CA) but sold through Hayward Motors (Hayward, CA) 12/5/66......"

Car is 6S1727 from my records and pictures. Hope this settles the mystery ;)

Quote from: greekz on April 13, 2018, 04:18:48 PM
I agree it could be possible if the car was sold in the Los Angeles or other large city in California, but think it is a stretch as well.  My car is an April 1966 sale out of San Luis Obispo, CA and starts with SAL. 

My Feb 66 LA Hertz delivery from HiPerf Motors was SRL. CA plates of the era are all over the place. When a DMV office needed more plates the prison just punched out the next series and sent them off. Smaller DMVs got early numbered plates but ran through them at a slower rate San Luis Obispo at the time was still sparsly populated so those were sitting on the shelf for some time before they were delivered.

   Jeff,
    Odds are he got the plates later in the mail from Sacramento. Makes more sense now .

6S2020 original plates TWR 172 still on the car
6S2082 original plates TWR 171 still on the car
Both went to HI-PO Motors

Quote from: greekz on April 13, 2018, 04:18:48 PM
I agree it could be possible if the car was sold in the Los Angeles or other large city in California, but think it is a stretch as well.  My car is an April 1966 sale out of San Luis Obispo, CA and starts with SAL.  Also, a possibility the car was first sold in 1967, as it might have languished on a dealer's lot for a while.

Greek

Greek ,
    I had a 66 coupe with SAL plates. Also sold in April. Those plates came from Sacramento not the dealer as happened in many cases.
    Randy

   My Feb '66 delivered Hertz ( LAX) was RZP as was a group of cars in my vin range. Those probably came from the local DMV. Some Hertz cars ( in California) did not get their plates immediately. I have a blue "suspense receipt" that was in one of those cheap leather , spring clip holders attached to the steering column for a car in the 800s. It would not be used/needed if the plates were on the car initially.
    Randy

Randy,

I am aware the plates did not come from the dealer, but as you stated, sometimes from local DMV Offices.  I also have the steering column spring holder as used by the original owner.

Greek

6S1802 sold new at Hayward Ford still has it's original issue California plates SPX 722

Jeff,

Thanks for providing the requested information. Another plated added.

Also thanks to those listing 6S1820, 6S2020 and 6S2082. I already had these in my records.

Randy as well for his input as well as previous help.

If anyone else has something regarding other original issue plates, please let me know.

Thanks,

Dennis

I cannot guarantee the information I have is for the original plates for 6S1575 sold by Fellini-Mayfield Ford in Springfield Missouri June of '66, but I have the original bill of sale from the 1st owner who lived in Springfield, to the second owner here in Ontario Canada.  $1,900 in October of 1971 BTW).  On the receipt it lists the license plate as 522-87A.  That number / letter combination is not consistent with Ontario plates that were issued back then, and it looks like Missouri plates in 1966 did have a combination of 6 numbers and letters, so I expect there is a reasonable chance that 522-87A was the original plate as it appears Missouri used stickers to update their plates after issuing them back then.  Up to you Dennis if you want to add that info to your database.  John

John:

Thanks for the information. I have added this information noted as you have stated as may or may not be correct. I could not find the number letter sequence on any Missouri plates. Are the plates black letters on white background with MO left top and 66 right top?

Thanks,

Dennis

The only info I have is the plate number as mentioned on the bill of sale.  No idea what the plates looked like.  I believe the period correct plates were maroon with with white letters from samples I have seen online.

Quote from: J_Speegle on April 13, 2018, 04:31:39 PM
As a follow up.  IDed the car and it (according to the Registry) was not sold until almost have way through the 67 production year (Dec 66) explaining the unusual Calif license plate number sequence as we suspected. Just sat around SAI for a long time in the back lot it seems. 

" ....Picked up by the original owner Jim Marxxxx (San Francisco, CA) 12/8/66 at Hi-Performance Motors, Inc (El Segundo, CA) but sold through Hayward Motors (Hayward, CA) 12/5/66......"

Car is 6S1727 from my records and pictures. Hope this settles the mystery ;)

Thanks, Jeff. Armed with "6S1727", I found that I did have the car labeled!

Most CA dealers picked up their plates from DMV then called the owner to come in and have them installed. The Hertz cars may be different. Randy's car was delivered to Hertz at LAX in February as was 843. Hi Performance Motors was the dealer for 843 but there is a big difference in license numbers his RZP. 843 was SRL it was delivered mid month if I remember. Deathsled has the invoice now.
My sister bought her 68 GT/CS well after the 69s were out in March or April it was ZAZ near the end of the Black plates.

  477s plate was RZP968.

Randy,

I have all the plates in the group LA brake test cars (all received RZP) except I am missing the numbers for 6S446, 6S449 and 6S463.

Can anyone help out with these three?

Dennis

  Dennis ,
       I have the actual "suspense receipt" for 841 and the plate number is SRM 340 dated Feb 17 1966. Hertz LA "Avenue of the stars" address. I would like to reunite it with the current owner of 841.
    Randy

Randy,

That is one that I did Not have - number is consistent with others during that period. Could you send me a copy of the "Suspense receipt"? You can PM if you like.

Great gesture on your part to reunite with current owner.

Thanks,

Dennis

  It may not come out of the holder in one piece. I don't want to destroy it for a copy.

Thanks Randy.

Sportyworty,

Thanks for that add of 6S2299, I did not have yours recorded.

Randy,

In reviewing my picture files I came across the following Mustang 360 article:

http://www.mustangandfords.com/featured-vehicles/1703-test-driving-revology-cars-shelby-g-t-350-replica/

I had asked on the old forums if anyone knew the VIN matching this plate and there was no response.

Perhaps you can locate Mark Pietloch through Revology. I am sure he would appreciate the document.

Good luck,

Dennis

I have a pic of 6S2268, original owner car (per the placard) and CA plate shows UAL 854.     Picture came from Brant, so you might have
this info already.  Hope this helps.

Quote from: gjz30075 on April 18, 2018, 08:41:13 PM
I have a pic of 6S2268, original owner car (per the placard) and CA plate shows UAL 854.    .....

Yes that Bill's car and he is the original owner of that red no stripe Paxton car.

Greg,

Thanks for adding to the list. I was missing this one.

I have three Hertz car plates that I am attempting to associate with the VINs.

The plates are (California):

SKV 957 - Black
SRK 334 - Green
SVS 723 - Black

Can anyone help out with these?

Thanks

Dennis

I may have furnished this info on the lost forum but will offer it again:
6S1467 was purchased in December 1966 and was issued TVZ059.  I have the registration slip but sure wish I had the original plates.

I did not have the information for 6S1467, but it is now recorded.

California is now reissuing the black plates, but I doubt that you would want to register your car in CA just to get plates. I am pretty sure that there are places that can create plates very similar for show only. Even a plastic insert would work.

You may want to search the Internet.

Thanks,

Dennis

Another one added, much appreciated. Let's keep this up.

66 car 2170

Ca plate, SPY....Gotta find the plate for the rest

     When i bought 6S240 in '72 , the plate  was UAM692 , a much later plate than was original issue in '66 when it first sold.

any idea for my 66 1122? sold 3/66 Webster ford, caurthers ca. black plate. I still think I have it somewhere, maybe. phred

My 66 GT 350 had plates of   TQK--- still have them somewhere. Ca black plates car sold in Riverside Ca. :)

Quote from: 427heaven on April 19, 2018, 10:04:10 PM
My 66 GT 350 had plates of   TQK--- still have them somewhere. Ca black plates car sold in Riverside Ca. :)

They were from 6S 409

Prefix on my early 67s cali. Plate is ujd.....

My late 65 5S426 was sent to Hayward and still has the original RKA plates. The original owner purchased the car from Concord Ford in late 65. Have some pictures of the car when it is a few month old.

Peter,

6S2170 was assigned California plate SPY 885.

Dennis

Randy,

I have added 6S240 as receiving California plate UAM692. According to the Registry other 1966 cars received the U series plates.

I cannot see any reason that DMV would have replaced the plates from 1966 to 1972.

Unless some additional information comes along, I assume the plate to be the first issued to that car.

Thanks again for all you help.

Dennis

I checked the following in my records and found:

papa scoops – I do not have a record for 6S122.
427 – I do not have a record for your car. Can you get the information for me?
557 – I have your plate number recorded.
PaulD – I have your plate number recorded.

Thanks again to all who have contributed to this effort.

Dennis

Quote from: gt350cs on April 20, 2018, 10:46:47 AM
Randy,

I have added 6S240 as receiving California plate UAM692. According to the Registry other 1966 cars received the U series plates.

I cannot see any reason that DMV would have replaced the plates from 1966 to 1972.

Unless some additional information comes along, I assume the plate to be the first issued to that car.

People/owners just need to realize that often the reason for these sequences of letters relate to a car sitting or being used for some purpose that delayed them receiving the plates until. This is often indicated in the registry

Jeff,

I agree completely.

Dennis,  this correct, found my plates SPY885

One of the big reasons I bought my car was it having those orignal plates

Quote from: gt350cs on April 19, 2018, 12:48:17 PM
California is now reissuing the black plates, ....

The new plates use a smaller font to make room for 7 rather than the old style 6 digits. They also consider it a vanity plate and charge you an extra $40 a year to have them.

It's good that they will be easily identified as reissue, making it easier to determine if plates are as issued when these cars were new.

Keep in mind that I am researching all states; not just California.

Just a shameless bump to see if anyone may have something new to add. Keep in mind this is for ALL years, every state and all cars including Cobras.

Any leads much appreciated.

Dennis

I recently acquired 6S1291. The car still retains its original California black plates, SRA 970.

Malcolm

Thanks Malcolm that is one that I did not have recorded. I very much appreciate your adding it to our list.

The number of confirmed plates is growing slowly. Everyone please keep in mind this is not just "California". We do have some from other states as well. I would especially like to add to the Hertz cars out there.

Thanks again,

Dennis

Just another shameless bump to see if anyone may have something new to add. Many of you have said you would get back to me on some of the cars that I am looking for I do hope you find your records.

I am also beginning to add more Cobra plates as well.

Any will be very leads much appreciated. Thanks to all who have already helped.

Dennis

1966 hertz car black orig ca plates SVS 724.  Car is #1867. I can't remember if I saw this in your list or not. I think your research is very interesting.

I do already have 6S1867 in my database along with a footnote stating that it now has a 4 speed transmission installed. It was delivered to Hertz Los Angeles the same day as my car.

I also came across some information from a car Bill Collins used to own, 6s1695 plate was SVR 415.

6S1695 is also in the database. It was in the same group of cars delivered to Hertz Los Angeles.

Thanks for sharing.