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Title: mounting period correct tires
Post by: shelbymann1970 on June 09, 2021, 08:24:16 AM
Well it appears corporate America is getting more stupid by the year. No chain tire stores in the Detroit area will mount a 1970s tire on a rim. It doesn't matter your intention as they cannot mount a tire over 10 years old. Safety issue. I asked have they ever mounted an old "good" tire and have it blow up? I told them to mount it and I'd fill it at home. Its a spare that will never hit the ground. So where are people going to mount their tires? Gary
Title: Re: mounting period correct tires
Post by: 67 GT350 on June 09, 2021, 10:13:06 AM
Stupidity of American people has led to the stupidity of American Companies. I bet you can get any person in China to mount it.

On a serious note, with care and common sense you might be able to do it yourself, with a pry bar and some muscle?
Title: Re: mounting period correct tires
Post by: davez on June 09, 2021, 10:16:48 AM
How about a local gas station repair shop for cash?
Title: Re: mounting period correct tires
Post by: KR Convertible on June 09, 2021, 10:20:52 AM
I got tired of the BS and bought my own tire machine, balancer and brake lathe.  I don't depend on nobody for nuthin'!

Title: Re: mounting period correct tires
Post by: shelbymann1970 on June 09, 2021, 10:25:14 AM
Quote from: davez on June 09, 2021, 10:16:48 AM
How about a local gas station repair shop for cash?
There is one that works on new and old cars in Northville by my friend's house(if you are familiar with this area) . Old school 2 bay no gas shop. I was thinking of checking with them. Another shop many miles away just sold a set of 3 date coded 1970 F-60-15 tires. I never got over there and thought my friend would buy them. The owner found them stashed in his attic. Small tire shop. I wonder if he mounted those 50 year old tires?
Title: Re: mounting period correct tires
Post by: pbf777 on June 09, 2021, 10:52:14 AM
     The stupid is everywhere, I have experienced the same difficulties when attempting to have old tires mounted, if only to just hold vehicles up off the ground; the result is that I have realized I must mount them myself.  I even have purchased a tire mounding-dismounting machine, particularly for my truck tires, as they really are a little much to do by hand.     8)

     Also many establishments will not mount a tire size not listed (in their computer   ::)  ) for a particular chassis by the O.E.; nor will some sell and mount tires on wheels unless the vehicle is present, this in order to establish proper application of the product.  So I guess with these policies in place, you'll get a big no!, if you ask them to mount your Polyglass  N50's on your 10" rims for '70 Camaro?   :o

     And good luck, at getting anyone these days to get near the 'split-ring' rims (sometimes, but improperly referred to as "split-rims", though there is such, and I have some vehicles with such, but that's different, but they won't touch them either!) on the older trucks.     ???

     Thanks, to the greedy self important P.I. Attorneys and the greedy low-rent clients that they attract, they have corrupted this portion of the judicial system into a money-making revolving door industry that just nullifies the righteous instances that deserve attention, and as presented by the O.P., but not limited to, interferes with the common function of our society.      >:(

     Scott.
Title: Re: mounting period correct tires
Post by: shelbymann1970 on June 09, 2021, 11:05:11 AM
Quote from: pbf777 on June 09, 2021, 10:52:14 AM
     The stupid is everywhere, I have experienced the same difficulties when attempting to have old tires mounted, if only to just hold vehicles up off the ground; the result is that I have realized I must mount them myself.  I even have purchased a tire mounding-dismounting machine, particularly for my truck tires, as they really are a little much to do by hand.     8)

     Also many establishments will not mount a tire size not listed (in their computer   ::)  ) for a particular chassis by the O.E.; nor will some sell and mount tires on wheels unless the vehicle is present, this in order to establish proper application of the product.  So I guess with these policies in place, you'll get a big no!, if you ask them to mount your Polyglass  N50's on your 10" rims for '70 Camaro?   :o

     And good luck, at getting anyone these days to get near the 'split-ring' rims (sometimes, but improperly referred to as "split-rims", though there is such, and I have some vehicles with such, but that's different, but they won't touch them either!) on the older trucks.     ???

     Thanks, to the greedy self important P.I. Attorneys and the greedy low-rent clients that they attract, they have corrupted this portion of the judicial system into a money-making revolving door industry that just nullifies the righteous instances that deserve attention, and as presented by the O.P., but not limited to, interferes with the common function of our society.      >:(

     Scott.
Belle and Discount tire said it was a liability to their workers if the old tire blew up. I told them to mount and I would fill. Nope, they wouldn't even do that. Corp policy is 10 years old and they will not mount. I don't buy that crap that 10 year old tires are dangerous. My guy at Belle said they don't even use rubber in the tires anymore  :o Gary
Title: Re: mounting period correct tires
Post by: pbf777 on June 09, 2021, 11:36:30 AM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on June 09, 2021, 11:05:11 AM
I don't buy that crap that 10 year old tires are dangerous.


     Well I'll tell you that old tires can surely be unreliable!    ;)   But with reasonable assessment of the condition and consideration for intended use often older tires can still be of use. 

     Besides, I'm trying to reduce my carbon footprint, I'll run'em down to the cord, and be disappointed if I have to throw out any tire with tread on it, no matter its' age!     ::)

     Scott.
Title: Re: mounting period correct tires
Post by: shelbymann1970 on June 09, 2021, 12:06:25 PM
Quote from: pbf777 on June 09, 2021, 11:36:30 AM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on June 09, 2021, 11:05:11 AM
I don't buy that crap that 10 year old tires are dangerous.


     Well I'll tell you that old tires can surely be unreliable!    ;)   But with reasonable assessment of the condition and consideration for intended use often older tires can still be of use. 

     Besides, I'm trying to reduce my carbon footprint, I'll run'em down to the cord, and be disappointed if I have to throw out any tire with tread on it, no matter its' age!     ::)

     Scott.
I should have said all old tires. New tires can be dangerous also. This tire has no dry rot. Looks perfect inside and out with ZERO tire wear. Gary
Title: Re: mounting period correct tires
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on June 09, 2021, 04:58:22 PM
Forget the tire stores.  Find a race shop. They're used to mounting some seriously wide tires on exotic, lightweight wheels.  Your job will be a piece of cake and they'll appreciate what the tire and wheel are for.
Title: Re: mounting period correct tires
Post by: CharlesTurner on June 09, 2021, 05:15:30 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on June 09, 2021, 12:06:25 PM
I should have said all old tires. New tires can be dangerous also. This tire has no dry rot. Looks perfect inside and out with ZERO tire wear. Gary

I've had tires like that, they look perfect until mounted and aired up... small surface cracks appear.  Not always, maybe you'll get lucky.
Title: Re: mounting period correct tires
Post by: Poor Ron on June 09, 2021, 06:16:18 PM
Gary;
Check with Jeff James up by Frankenmuth, or Nyle Wing in Ionia.
Title: Re: mounting period correct tires
Post by: shelbymann1970 on June 10, 2021, 07:34:52 AM
Quote from: Poor Ron on June 09, 2021, 06:16:18 PM
Gary;
Check with Jeff James up by Frankenmuth, or Nyle Wing in Ionia.
I have heard that Jeff was closing up shop. Actually he isn't that far from me when I'm at work in Flint.  Gary
Title: Re: mounting period correct tires
Post by: shelbymann1970 on June 10, 2021, 07:39:54 AM
Quote from: CharlesTurner on June 09, 2021, 05:15:30 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on June 09, 2021, 12:06:25 PM
I should have said all old tires. New tires can be dangerous also. This tire has no dry rot. Looks perfect inside and out with ZERO tire wear. Gary

I've had tires like that, they look perfect until mounted and aired up... small surface cracks appear.  Not always, maybe you'll get lucky.
I only plan to have enough air in the tire so it doesn't look flat. I cleaned the tire with the old formula Wesley's bleach white and the tire inside and out does look really nice. I have had my late model cars have little side wall cracks. Major tire store told me those were normal and don't worry about them. Ran another 30K on one set up to 88K miles from new and had them replaced only because it was winter time and wanted full tread. Bought the same tires.  Charles, hopefully my friend will call you soon on the parts. I told him last night not to procrastinate(he missed out on a fuel pump here on the forum by a day). Gary
Title: Re: mounting period correct tires
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on June 10, 2021, 06:26:07 PM
Quote from: 67 GT350 on June 09, 2021, 10:13:06 AM
Lawyers of American people has led to the stupidity of suing American Companies for anything.
Fixed it - It's easier to say no than actually do a little work and maybe get sued if that 1 in a billion thing happens

Quote from: Poor Ron on June 09, 2021, 06:16:18 PMup by Frankenmuth
Reminds me - we need to plan a MI trip for the grandson to see a 7+ acre Xmas store in July. Lunch at Zehnder's anyone?

Title: Re: mounting period correct tires
Post by: shelbymann1970 on June 11, 2021, 06:17:02 AM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on June 10, 2021, 06:26:07 PM
Quote from: 67 GT350 on June 09, 2021, 10:13:06 AM
Lawyers of American people has led to the stupidity of suing American Companies for anything.
Fixed it - It's easier to say no than actually do a little work and maybe get sued if that 1 in a billion thing happens

Quote from: Poor Ron on June 09, 2021, 06:16:18 PMup by Frankenmuth
Reminds me - we need to plan a MI trip for the grandson to see a 7+ acre Xmas store in July. Lunch at Zehnder's anyone?
Have you ever been to the Autofest at Frankenmuth the weekend after Labor day? Friday night they shut down main street and angle park the cars from 1 end to the other so to speak. Then the show Sat and Sun. We eat at Zehnders a few times a year and usually most other times Tiffanys which is a few buildings down to the north Gary
Title: Re: mounting period correct tires
Post by: csheff on December 28, 2022, 07:53:18 AM
Gary,
A lot of older tire stores that have been around will mount that tire. I had my original 67 tire done at a place on M59. I had the same problem with Discount tire. I went down the street to a local tire shop and had it done.
Title: Re: mounting period correct tires
Post by: csxsfm on December 28, 2022, 10:05:08 AM
Wetmore's on Woodward.