FYI
https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/news/1804/ford-to-licence-official-continuations-of-boss-429-302-and-mach-1-mustangs
i can't wait to see the prices.....also what do they intend to do with the original VIN on the donor cars ?..... :o
That preposterous
Disgusting too.
I just threw-up in my mouth
SGB
May you live in interesting times. (And we do.)
" Greed is.....GOOD....?.... ::)
Only if you're a Gecko.
I have heard that the Edsel may be in the works as well.......
Where dies it end?
Quote from: Wedgeman on April 20, 2018, 01:05:38 PM
i can't wait to see the prices.....also what do they intend to do with the original VIN on the donor cars ?..... :o
"Owners can choose to start with an original body or a new recreation under official license by Ford." I'm thinking Danacorn Body for the "Recreation Body" I bet the Prices will be $175,000.00 and up.
just placed our order for a pinto.....
Quote from: tesgt350 on April 20, 2018, 04:39:55 PM
Quote from: Wedgeman on April 20, 2018, 01:05:38 PM
i can't wait to see the prices.....also what do they intend to do with the original VIN on the donor cars ?..... :o
"Owners can choose to start with an original body or a new recreation under official license by Ford." I'm thinking Danacorn Body for the "Recreation Body" I bet the Prices will be $175,000.00 and up.
They say 2,500 hours per car. Shop rate has to be at least $75 per hour plus the parts. I can't see anyone opting for a Mach 1 or Boss 302.
Ford will come to regret this decision, just as Shelby did with Unique
Its not news they have been doing it for years....apparently news to Australia is a little slow?
The way I read that, they are not destroying VINs, you can use you old body or get a new one.
That means you can have a "T" code Boss
Hmm, I don't know which one to choose. So difficult. Maybe an Ecoboost Mach 1. That sounds awesome.
What's next, a hybrid B9?
Let the car show stories begin! If it is a Shelby or Ford licensed vehicle, the "authentic continuation" (an oxymoron to me) debate will get very heated for many.
More amazing as that these "licensed" fabrication reproductions cost as much or more than many valued originals. But then movie cars, like Eleanor Mustangs, are still worshiped by many.
Bring back the EDSEL
At those prices I don't see where these cars will be a major issue. Not many are going to get built and sold.
FYI. more info
http://www.motortrend.com/news/classic-recreations-ford-mustang-boss-302-429-mach-1/
I can get a Pinto? cool... phred
Maybe soon I can get one of them magical Mustang II Cobras so I can show off all the cool stripes.
^^^ Some good out-of-the-box thinking here... Pintos, Eco-Boost Machs, mix-n-match vins ::)
Can Ford make enough $$ to offset the ridicule from actual enthusiasts?
Will buyers really want their names in some registry that could let others know about their purchase and subsequent ridicule?
I am curious about the statement that these cars will have ..."Shelby Serial Numbers & Recognized in the...Worldwide Shelby Registry".....what exactly does that translate into ?.... :o
Many of us are still trying to figure that one out.
Quote from: shelbydoug on April 21, 2018, 07:00:21 AM
At those prices I don't see where these cars will be a major issue. Not many are going to get built and sold.
+1. This has been tried various times before and the project usually quickly loses momentum after a initial few deep pocketed buyers are found. I recall a similar effort back around 1990 where a company acquired and rebuilt mid '60's GM intermediates (Chevelle, GTO. etc) with modern drivelines and amenities and sought to remarket them as "new" vehicles.
The cars were aimed at what I would refer to as pseudo enthusiasts who wanted the classic look but had minimal or no ability to build or even maintain such a car on their own. The venture ultimately failed because the intended market had problems getting the cars financed. Lenders were unwilling to risk the required money on what were essentially modified vehicles having an uncertain resale value, coming from an entity with no proven ability to provide post purchase support (i.e. warranties, service).
I expect the same thing will happen here, especially on examples built from aftermarket bodies with no VIN provenance. And unlike 1990, we now have a universe of fast, capable, interesting and well engineered vehicles to choose from among a variety of manufacturers. And as those cars age, many become performance bargains by comparison.
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I am curious about the statement that these cars will have ..."Shelby Serial Numbers & Recognized in the...Worldwide Shelby Registry".....what exactly does that translate into ?.... :o
Its been discussed several times. It is designed to sell cars, the registry they speak of is most likely the registry Shelby American is running, not the SAAC registry. The are fifty years behind and filling it with all this garbage.
This licensing silliness has another dark side. With all the auction frenzy over Shelby toys and wanna-bees, will the real Shelby Registry need to stand up? Saying a vehicle is in a registry which has no public access other than to verify a licensed product is too limiting. Many who are familiar with the SAAC Registries, which are available to the public, know of the intense research that is not available on the other World registry. It certainly can give a strong false impression, especially since new licensing of these reproductions emphasizes the statement about being in a registry. 8)
Will they weld up the rear quarter scoop for the 69 Boss 302?? Was that a solid one piece fender in 1969 for the Boss 302 cast without the hole for the scoop?
Quote from: Don Johnston on April 22, 2018, 06:28:46 PM
This licensing silliness has another dark side. With all the auction frenzy over Shelby toys and wanna-bees, will the real Shelby Registry need to stand up? Saying a vehicle is in a registry which has no public access other than to verify a licensed product is too limiting. Many who are familiar with the SAAC Registries, which are available to the public, know of the intense research that is not available on the other World registry. It certainly can give a strong false impression, especially since new licensing of these reproductions emphasizes the statement about being in a registry. 8)
Caution should prevail here. SA has a huge legal team on permanent retainer and tends to be trigger happy.
"Defaming" could be the complaint. If they know your name, that could be a problem.
Simply put, they don't care what you think. Let them make their own claims and the public in general continue to question exactly where they can buy a copy of their "Registry".
Be an educated buyer. You can't be sued for that.
"The Emperor has no clothes"? So far. ;)
Show me the book.
So I'll have a 65-68 BOSSxyz or a MACH1? And it's 'official' since Ford sold them the rights to use its name and a company that used to make continuation Cobras is gonna make it authentic by registering an old VIN has now been refreshed with badass new technology. That's ALMOST seems reasonable.
But to put on old VIN on a new (or old) body shell I thought was a crime.
Is if not?
Or is it merely pulling the wool over a buyers eyes if you can make him think that a Dynacorn body with a 'T' code VIN & a 'G' code engine makes its a BOSS 302?
What's next, cloning humans?
My question for those who believe in this "Shelby World Registry", is long term validation. The SWR is an unpublished, privately held data base by Shelby Licensing that will only verify a VIN belonging to a vehicle authorized by Shelby Licensing. It is not a published data base like that SAAC registry for verification.
Therefore, if years down the road, the Shelby related industies )LIcensing, Foundation, Shelby American, etc.) cease to exist, there goes the data base SWR with them, I would presume. 8)
Why doesn't Ford just set up a program so if you decide to purchase a set of officially licensed 1970 Boss 302 "Hockey Stripe" decals for $80K we will register your 1970 fastback as an officially licensed Boss 302! That's basically all they are doing-
Still throwing up over all this...
Pictures
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-1969-ford-mustang-boss-429-now-on-sale
It looks obviously like a restomod. I'm not sure why Ford just didn't call it the Boss 546. That way you don't sh%$ on the heritage and it's clear its a newer version of the old. Call it what it is- Just don't go there with the 429 engine option.
Ford execs only idolize these selected nameplates for financial gain, not their heritage.
Quote from: shelbydoug on April 23, 2018, 07:21:59 AM
Quote from: Don Johnston on April 22, 2018, 06:28:46 PM
This licensing silliness has another dark side. With all the auction frenzy over Shelby toys and wanna-bees, will the real Shelby Registry need to stand up? Saying a vehicle is in a registry which has no public access other than to verify a licensed product is too limiting. Many who are familiar with the SAAC Registries, which are available to the public, know of the intense research that is not available on the other World registry. It certainly can give a strong false impression, especially since new licensing of these reproductions emphasizes the statement about being in a registry. 8)
Caution should prevail here. SA has a huge legal team on permanent retainer and tends to be trigger happy.
"Defaming" could be the complaint. If they know your name, that could be a problem.
Simply put, they don't care what you think. Let them make their own claims and the public in general continue to question exactly where they can buy a copy of their "Registry".
Be an educated buyer. You can't be sued for that.
"The Emperor has no clothes"? So far. ;)
Show me the book.
I doubt they would sue. All one would have to do is subpeona the records and they would fold. No way they want people seeing they have built over 100,000 "rare collectible" cars since the SVT Mustang was rebadged as a GT500.