I want to be the first to congratulate bob And Vern for the sale of bob's 1967 Shelby GT350 vin #0001. It is an amazing car to say the least.
I'm surprised the sale wasn't announced here first on the SAAC Forum. I wonder if it was a new record price for a '67 Shelby. Anyway, good job guys!! 👍
Quote from: Shelby Narcissist on September 15, 2021, 11:39:27 AM
I'm surprised the sale wasn't announced here first on the SAAC Forum.
Rarely do I see offline sales posted here unless it is with the permission of the buyer. In those cases, it's usually the excitement of the purchase that drives such a post. Rarer yet is to know the actual sales price of such a private, offline transaction.
My question back to you, why even bother with such a post, yes, it does seem rather narcissist in nature, but then again, a secondary account on the saac forum does as well.
Bill
Bill,
I find this to be noteworthy news to Shelby enthusiasts and to this Forum, no different than any other historical, well known Shelby that's been sold in the market.
Again, congrats to all involved in the sale.
Congratulations to the seller and buyer !
Quick question, although the vin has 1 on it isn't the red convertible owned by B Styles the first 1967 Shelby produced?
Brian Styles would be happy to answer that question if he was not removed from this forum some years ago - He is a huge wealth of knowledge that is sorely missed from this venue.
Who ever took him off should be removed themselves!
Stephen Becker
I wonder if it is going into the Segerstrom Collection. They have gathered many #1 cars. We're still waiting for the announcement of the grand opening.
https://segerstromshelbyeventcenter.com/
I plan on going to that event - Ted and his wife are great folks and I have sold a car (or two.....or three) into his vast collection over the decades - Great supporter & ambassador of the Shelby brand!
Hey Guys,
Yes, I did help Bob sell his #0001 car. Bob enjoyed the car for a long time and now it is with a new owner who will no doubt enjoy the car just the same.
In general, I don't go out of my way to air out every car that sells through me and the website is almost never updated. Last time I put a car on the website was probably over a year ago. Most all the good cars anymore are selling privately without need for public advertising and updating the site with sold inventory cost time that I don't tend to have as a true "one man show" type of business. I could spend time updating the website with sold cars or trying to buy more cars...maybe one day I'll turn into a real business with a couple employees but, until then, I'd rather spend any extra time I have playing with my kids at home.
Anyway, in terms of price, details like that are never disclosed in private dealings out of respect for the buyers as well as the sellers. It's really nobody's business what the car went for outside of the buyer, seller, and myself. In terms of whether it was a world record, I would say the car certainly would deserve such a price.
Kind regards,
Vern
PS- in response to questions about Ted..no, Ted was not the buyer. The car is going to the opposite end of the country. The buyer has not specifically asked for discretion but discretion is always my default. If he wishes to publicly proclaim ownership, he is welcome to do that however he pleases.
Quote from: FL SAAC on September 15, 2021, 12:41:27 PM
Congratulations to the seller and buyer !
Quick question, although the vin has 1 on it isn't the red convertible owned by B Styles the first 1967 Shelby produced?
Maybe he should have said "First Shelby produced for Public Purchase"? I don't know if that Shelby GT 500 Convertible was built before the First 1967 Shelby though since the GT 500 didn't come out until #100 I believe.
Additionally, no Brian's convertible is not the first 67 Shelby although it is special for a myriad of reasons. Bob's car would have been the first production car serialized, some other early GT350s were completed prior to Bob's car. Regardless, the 0001 designation, like it or not, carries with it a significant cache in the eyes of a high end collector and the car itself was restored to beautiful condition- sporting original tires, group 22 battery etc etc..
Kind regards,
Vern
Gotcha first to be serialized not produced, understood
Thank you sir
Quote from: Vernon Estes on September 15, 2021, 01:17:11 PM
Additionally, no Brian's convertible is not the first 67 Shelby although it is special for a myriad of reasons. Bob's car would have been the first production car serialized, some other early GT350s were completed prior to Bob's car. Regardless, the 0001 designation, like it or not, carries with it a significant cache in the eyes of a high end collector and the car itself was restored to beautiful condition- sporting original tires, group 22 battery etc etc..
Kind regards,
Vern
Quote from: Vernon Estes on September 15, 2021, 01:10:54 PMThe buyer has not specifically asked for discretion but discretion is always my default. If he wishes to publicly proclaim ownership, he is welcome to do that however he pleases.
As it should be.
What a great car,
I have also read on this site that some early 67's
had hand written numbers in the shelby tag
Being no car early than #1 I would of thought it would also get a hand scratched number
Always keen to learn more on the 67's
Cheers Gregg
I thought Brian Styles was invited to come back on the SAAC Forum, it seems he chooses not to.
It seems the '67's completed before November of '66 had the hand-etched VIN tags (the reason to my knowledge has not been defined). Car #001 being completed November 4th, the same day as few other cars, were among the first to have the stamped VIN tags.
You mean like these tags ?
Autographed by Zorro who at the time was employed by Ford... Z...
Quote from: acapulco350 on September 15, 2021, 07:33:02 PM
What a great car,
I have also read on this site that some early 67's
had hand written numbers in the shelby tag
Being no car early than #1 I would of thought it would also get a hand scratched number
Always keen to learn more on the 67's
Cheers Gregg
"Z" stamped '67 VIN tags is a different, much later, issue/occurrence.
Brian Styles was never invited back -
See below and link...note reply #6
https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=2762.msg24276#msg24276
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on September 15, 2021, 12:46:04 PM
I wonder if it is going into the Segerstrom Collection. They have gathered many #1 cars. We're still waiting for the announcement of the grand opening.
https://segerstromshelbyeventcenter.com/
Oh wow & thanks for the heads up on this ,thats great to have something like this in my back yard.
You are correct
" It's well-established that the earliest cars had hand-engraved VINs. Then evolving to stamped. Then the late-completed cars (theorized to be an indication of being a Ford asset after May 1) had an oversized "Z" prefix added to the VIN plate. Well, almost nothing in the completion of '67 Shelbys is binary... Here's a few *special* "Z" prefix VINs of cars completed on the same day in late May. Was the Z stamping tool misplaced? Did it break? Is there another reason? I'm sure we'll know more as we collect, identify and compare additional Z-VIN plates from this time period "
Quote from: JD on September 15, 2021, 10:18:28 PM
"Z" stamped '67 VIN tags is a different, much later, issue/occurrence.
We've also been told some early cars had there hand engraved tags replaced with stamped tags.
Where and when that happened is anybody's guess.
Also, at least one early car has been found with a hand engraved tag that was completed after October 1966.
All this tells us is the tags may have been added before the cars were completed by SAI.
I'm sure Bob already misses that car. Congratulations on the sale. And if you have a car that nice, private sale is the way to go.
Quote from: roddster on September 16, 2021, 10:15:14 AM
I'm sure Bob already misses that car. Congratulations on the sale. And if you have a car that nice, private sale is the way to go.
I would venture to say that a lot of us are curious as to what the value of something like this car is though. There are very few others to compare it with.
Quote from: CharlesTurner on September 16, 2021, 11:52:35 AM
Quote from: roddster on September 16, 2021, 10:15:14 AM
I'm sure Bob already misses that car. Congratulations on the sale. And if you have a car that nice, private sale is the way to go.
I would venture to say that a lot of us are curious as to what the value of something like this car is though. There are very few others to compare it with.
Me too but it is kind of unique and the buyer is less likely to put a dollar amount on it rather then just go out and get it, whatever it costs.
And that's fine because many of these cars have just entered into a state where they are unique museum pieces and probably should be on display like a Renoir painting is, for all to see and enjoy.
Translate that into "expensive".
early cars had something like this tag hand engraved
Quote from: Richstang on September 16, 2021, 08:58:06 AM
We've also been told some early cars had there hand engraved tags replaced with stamped tags.
Where and when that happened is anybody's guess.
Also, at least one early car has been found with a hand engraved tag that was completed after October 1966.
All this tells us is the tags may have been added before the cars were completed by SAI.
Bob purchased number #1 from a seller in Albuquerque New Mexico, I had a chance to buy the car for $8000 in the early 80s. I recall my Shelby buddies and I at the time trying to decide if a car with
Vin # 1 number would be worth more money than any other 67 Shelby at the time. Who knew?