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Title: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: wcampbell on November 27, 2021, 10:06:32 PM
I love the look of the old Goodyear Bluestreak tires and my car raced a lot with them through the 60's and 70's, but I understand the road use of them is less than desirable over the gold standard DOT approved AVON CR6ZZ's. My question is does anyone have pics of AVON's being painted up to look like vintage Goodyears with the blue lines on them? I'm toying with the idea, but not sure how they might might look...Any insight and photos would be much appreciated!
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: Bob Gaines on November 28, 2021, 01:28:10 AM
Quote from: wcampbell on November 27, 2021, 10:06:32 PM
I love the look of the old Goodyear Bluestreak tires and my car raced a lot with them through the 60's and 70's, but I understand the road use of them is less than desirable over the gold standard DOT approved AVON CR6ZZ's. My question is does anyone have pics of AVON's being painted up to look like vintage Goodyears with the blue lines on them? I'm toying with the idea, but not sure how they might might look...Any insight and photos would be much appreciated!
I sounds like you already know this but to make crystal clear the 66 GT350's that came with the Bluestreak street tires from the factory did not have the blue lines around the tire. The vintage race bluestreak tires did have the blue line .
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: CSX2259 on November 28, 2021, 03:09:56 AM
Here are some that we have done, the single on the wheel is a Avon CR6ZZ which we highly recommend and the set and single without the wheel are are Dunlop's that we did for Legendary's Flip Top for the Pebble Beach Tour.
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: shelbydoug on November 28, 2021, 09:46:12 AM
Those are beyond just nice. They are just outrageous (with an accent heavily on the  extreme positive).  8)
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: wcampbell on November 28, 2021, 12:17:31 PM
The single AVON painted on the rim is exactly like the original Goodyears my car was raced with for 2-3 decades. I want to drive it on the street, yet show it like this as well. PM Sent.
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: CSX2259 on November 28, 2021, 07:21:45 PM
Thank you for the positive responses guys.
We did a set for a 1967 GT350 owner...This shows the progression of the process.....
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: CSX 4133 on November 28, 2021, 08:50:41 PM
Quote from: CSX2259 on November 28, 2021, 07:21:45 PM
Thank you for the positive responses guys.
We did a set for a 1967 GT350 owner...This shows the progression of the process.....

CSX2259, Are those 215/70-15's or 215/60-15's ?
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: CSX2259 on November 29, 2021, 01:10:03 AM
Quote from: CSX 4133 on November 28, 2021, 08:50:41 PM
Quote from: CSX2259 on November 28, 2021, 07:21:45 PM
Thank you for the positive responses guys.
We did a set for a 1967 GT350 owner...This shows the progression of the process.....

CSX2259, Are those 215/70-15's or 215/60-15's ?

I'll look at the file tomorrow.
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: CSX2259 on November 29, 2021, 05:54:39 PM


The tire size is 225 60 15
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: CSX 4133 on November 29, 2021, 07:21:03 PM
Quote from: CSX2259 on November 29, 2021, 05:54:39 PM


The tire size is 225 60 15

Thanks, do you know of any clearance issues based on that size, especially the front on a GT350? 
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: shelbydoug on November 29, 2021, 08:02:41 PM
If it matters I've got a 235-60-15 on the front with no issues. Lowered a-arms.

Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: Wedgeman on November 29, 2021, 10:27:22 PM
I also have 235/60 15 TA's on front of my 67 GT500..lowered A arms...no issues
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: CSX2259 on November 30, 2021, 02:28:39 AM

I don't believe there were any issues, the GT350 is a two digit 1967.
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: ALF on November 30, 2021, 10:27:25 AM
Quote from: CSX2259 on November 28, 2021, 03:09:56 AM
Here are some that we have done, the single on the wheel is a Avon CR6ZZ which we highly recommend and the set and single without the wheel are are Dunlop's that we did for Legendary's Flip Top for the Pebble Beach Tour.
Hi John
Great work, but at one point I'm struggling.
Do I need to  take off socks and shoes If I would do the same work on my Avons.  ;D

Would it be OK for you to share some details on the steps you did and the sticker sizes you did select? (via PM if you prefer)
-Grinder information
-Cleaning
-Decal size GoodYear
-Decal size ring

I would like to try what you did, hoping to get the same nice result.

MANY THANKS

Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: csheff on November 30, 2021, 11:03:53 AM
U did an awesome job n those. Yes any info on how u did them would be greatly appreciated. Where did u source your Avon's from?
Craig
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: CSX2259 on November 30, 2021, 12:42:26 PM
Sort of a proprietary process. It involves shaving the sidewall, degreasing the sidewall cutting the virgin white rubber lettering and then vulcanizing the lettering to the tire. A blue pin stripe is then added. The lettering can be to any dimension the customer asks for. The GT350 tires were done to a specific size that mimicked the GOODYEAR lettering on the originally supplied tires when the car was new.
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: tesgt350 on November 30, 2021, 03:10:21 PM
That is very cool. 

I was wondering.  Watching the TV Show "Counting Cars" the guys went to a Shop to check out their Laser Engraver set up.  It actually did a 3D image of the Metal Plate and then it engraved the inputted design into the metal plate and the guy said it could Engrave just about anything.  It didn't even heat up the metal plate at all and it was super fast.  Could that work on your Tires?  The Laser would outline the Letters and Emblem then engrave everything around them basically shaving the tire sidewall down a little at a time leaving the Letters and Emblems at factory height so all you would have to do is paint them, add the Pin Stripe to the design so it to has the Embossed effect.  You might even be able to do it with the Tire inflated on the Wheel.
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: CSX2259 on November 30, 2021, 05:46:20 PM
I'm not sure about the laxer thing, reminds me of a movie where a person orders a package of body modifications gets on the operating table and the laxer goes nuts.

The way we got started in the sidewall business was when a friend ordered a printer where you could print onto the sidewall of the tire. I think we printed one set, then the machine went KAPUT.
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: csheff on January 08, 2022, 11:46:34 AM
What's the width of the blue stripe? If doing for a Cobra?
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: mlplunkett on February 19, 2022, 07:16:27 PM
Quote from: Wedgeman on November 29, 2021, 10:27:22 PM
I also have 235/60 15 TA's on front of my 67 GT500..lowered A arms...no issues

Just curious, do you think you could get away with a 245-60 in the T/As on a 67?
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: mlplunkett on February 19, 2022, 07:20:14 PM
Quote from: CSX2259 on November 29, 2021, 05:54:39 PM


The tire size is 225 60 15

I see that Avon jumps from 225-60 to 245-60. Is that a bridge too far? I'm building a 65 R-Model tribute and wondering if I can go up to 8" wide wheels and wider tires.
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: S7MS427 on February 19, 2022, 09:21:02 PM
Quote from: mlplunkett on February 19, 2022, 07:16:27 PM
Quote from: Wedgeman on November 29, 2021, 10:27:22 PM
I also have 235/60 15 TA's on front of my 67 GT500..lowered A arms...no issues

Just curious, do you think you could get away with a 245-60 in the T/As on a 67?
From personal experience, the widest tire I could getaway with on my '67 was 235R60-15 (Radial T/A and Eagle GT IIs) on MagStars.  And even then I had to roll the fender lips.  Others may differ in opinion.
Title: Re: Painting AVON CR6ZZ's
Post by: shlby66 on February 19, 2022, 11:06:05 PM

I see that Avon jumps from 225-60 to 245-60. Is that a bridge too far? I'm building a 65 R-Model tribute and wondering if I can go up to 8" wide wheels and wider tires.
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      I have 8"x15" PS ENG. wheels, mounted, with AVON 225x65R15's, at all 4 corners, on my '66 Shelby.

      The fenders are rolled, as I like a crisp, aggressive, wheel/tire combination and I have no rubbing.

      Doug C.