Can I ask, who makes the aluminum bodies for the Shelby CSX8000 series? Is it Kirkham, or someone else?
Thanks,
Brian
Quote from: BGlover67 on December 31, 2021, 11:03:02 PM
Can I ask, who makes the aluminum bodies for the Shelby CSX8000 series? Is it Kirkham, or someone else?
Thanks,
Brian
I believe Kirkham is still the main supplier for SAI's Aluminum body roadsters.
Bill
Quote from: Bill on January 01, 2022, 07:10:11 AM
Quote from: BGlover67 on December 31, 2021, 11:03:02 PM
Can I ask, who makes the aluminum bodies for the Shelby CSX8000 series? Is it Kirkham, or someone else?
Thanks,
Brian
I believe Kirkham is still the main supplier for SAI's Aluminum body roadsters.
Bill
Are the FIA 289 bodies aluminum of just fiberglass?
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 01, 2022, 08:50:16 AM
Are the FIA 289 bodies aluminum of just fiberglass?
They make an FIA style body also https://www.kirkhammotorsports.com/products289fia.shtml
Quote from: A-Snake on January 01, 2022, 10:51:23 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 01, 2022, 08:50:16 AM
Are the FIA 289 bodies aluminum of just fiberglass?
They make an FIA style body also https://www.kirkhammotorsports.com/products289fia.shtml
Hum! I thought so. Not to insult you 289 guys but I'd want that on a coil spring chassis like the COX/COB cars.
A nice 347 tucked in with either Webers or a 2x4?
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 01, 2022, 11:06:52 AM
Not to insult you 289 guys but I'd want that on a coil spring chassis like the COX/COB cars.
I knew Doug was smart, but I wasn't aware he was this much of a genius. :)
Quote from: Cobra Ned on January 01, 2022, 12:06:25 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 01, 2022, 11:06:52 AM
Not to insult you 289 guys but I'd want that on a coil spring chassis like the COX/COB cars.
I knew Doug was smart, but I wasn't aware he was this much of a genius. :)
You didn't get the company memo? ???
Maybe. But I don't read them anymore. It seems they all have to do with Howard's peccadilloes. I don't even want to ask what THOSE are.
Kirkham will put the 289 body on a 427 coil spring chassis, that's actually the cheapest route versus original style suspension.
Quote from: PrettyMuchAShelbyGuy on January 01, 2022, 01:39:11 PM
Kirkham will put the 289 body on a 427 coil spring chassis, that's actually the cheapest route versus original style suspension.
I actually haven't seen any at all with that combination. There was that run of "anniversary" 289 FIA cars but they were leaf spring chassis.
I just happen to like the look of the FiA/USSRC cars with the cut back doors, flared fenders and small 289 nose.
That has to be a nice package on a coil spring chassis.
ERA will make one as well.
Kirkham will als make a 289 street version with the 427 coil over chassis too.
Quote from: CSX2259 on January 01, 2022, 05:43:21 PM
Kirkham will als make a 289 street version with the 427 coil over chassis too.
They only show leaf spring for the 289 & the Coupe. It's the same width and WB as the 427 so you could probably custom order it with coils. They'd probably have do use the wider 427 wheels.
https://www.kirkhammotorsports.com/products.shtml
Quote from: CSX2259 on January 01, 2022, 05:43:21 PM
Kirkham will als make a 289 street version with the 427 coil over chassis too.
With a brass body if you like ;)
Quote from: Bill on January 01, 2022, 08:09:29 PM
Quote from: CSX2259 on January 01, 2022, 05:43:21 PM
Kirkham will als make a 289 street version with the 427 coil over chassis too.
With a brass body if you like ;)
Actually bronze or copper, they do not offer brass.
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 01, 2022, 06:25:39 PM
Quote from: CSX2259 on January 01, 2022, 05:43:21 PM
Kirkham will als make a 289 street version with the 427 coil over chassis too.
They only show leaf spring for the 289 & the Coupe. It's the same width and WB as the 427 so you could probably custom order it with coils. They'd probably have do use the wider 427 wheels.
https://www.kirkhammotorsports.com/products.shtml
Kirkham refers to the 289 (FIA or street) bodied 427 chassis cars as "Hybrids". They will also do the chassis in stainless steel.
Not mine, just putting it out there as an example of what the Kirkhams can do....
https://www.listedbuy.com/cars/classics/plymouth-mi/1965-shelby-cobra-kirkham-kirkham-hybrid-427-fia
Someone well known in the hobby just informed me that Kirkham had pretty much doubled their cost on the aluminum bodies this year, and the wait is long. I'm sure they must have gotten hit by the same material cost inflation increases as everyone else. Perhaps a used aluminum bodied car is the way to go? I have a recently rebuilt original 289 HIPO that I've been contemplating as to what to install it in, that's what got me started down this path. ;)
Quote from: CSX2259 on January 02, 2022, 03:56:07 AM
Not mine, just putting it out there as an example of what the Kirkhams can do....
https://www.listedbuy.com/cars/classics/plymouth-mi/1965-shelby-cobra-kirkham-kirkham-hybrid-427-fia
It doesn't reference the chassis type, i.e., leaf v. coil over.
I can do without the badging and a small block would be more to my liking.
199 for a Kirkham seems like close to doubling in price?
In reference to Brian's comment, yes, buying something you can have right now makes tremendous sense.
All I was saying is that the only FIA types that I had seen were fiberglass/leaf springs.
It makes me wonder why a used ERA only goes for around 50? Wasn't that the point of replicas to begin with?
Seemingly the only place we don't see this worldwide inflation occurring is from China. But that's a completely controlled by the government there. It's probably just a matter of time where they decide to take advantage just like everyone else is?
As far as a continuation Cobra for me, I doubt it. I have too many cars already and probably need to decide soon how to downsize? People keep asking me, "nice car, if you ever want to sell it, call me?" So far no cash offers. Strange era we are now in?
Quote from: BGlover67 on January 02, 2022, 05:30:43 AM
Someone well known in the hobby just informed me that Kirkham had pretty much doubled their cost on the aluminum bodies this year, and the wait is long. I'm sure they must have gotten hit by the same material cost inflation increases as everyone else. Perhaps a used aluminum bodied car is the way to go? I have a recently rebuilt original 289 HIPO that I've been contemplating as to what to install it in, that's what got me started down this path. ;)
That is correct, per David, cost of a shipping container alone went from under 10K to over 30K, not to mention material cost increases, delays in procuring and shipping of those materials, even his propane bill all factor in to their cost increases. As with their past, every increase has not slowed down orders for their products, you want a slot, better get your deposit in sooner, than later.
Bill S.
"It doesn't reference the chassis type, i.e., leaf v. coil over. "
You are correct it doesn't say which chassis is used. You pretty much have to read between the lines. In the description they state "billet upper and lower control arms", since 289 Cobras or Kirkhams don't utilize upper control arms you can only assume that it is a 427 chassis.
I know that Kirkham puts a premium on "original" style suspensions over the billet parts, last time I checked is was a $20K bump.
Quote from: CSX2259 on January 02, 2022, 03:39:06 AMKirkham refers to the 289 (FIA or street) bodied 427 chassis cars as "Hybrids". They will also do the chassis in stainless steel.
Remember the stainless cars Ford has done>
A stainless chassis & body on a Kirkham would be the ideal car for winter driving in the rust belt.
https://fordauthority.com/2020/05/incredibly-rare-stainless-steel-ford-collection-heads-to-auction-this-fall/
Which company made their aluminum cobras in poland? Maybe its cheaper to buy there?
Quote from: Kent on January 03, 2022, 05:46:29 AM
Which company made their aluminum cobras in poland? Maybe its cheaper to buy there?
That would be Kirkham, raw body and chassis only in Poland, everything else done in the states.
Bill
Quote from: BGlover67 on December 31, 2021, 11:03:02 PM
Can I ask, who makes the aluminum bodies for the Shelby CSX8000 series? Is it Kirkham, or someone else?
Thanks,
Brian
Kirkham supplies the bodys to SPF South Africa, they assemble then the CSX cars for SAI