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Title: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: DC-DD on January 24, 2022, 12:57:15 PM

Look what we now have .
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: JD on January 24, 2022, 02:09:09 PM
Yes, truly a sad day :0(

Hope they didn't release this on his birthday earlier this month!
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: 427street on January 24, 2022, 02:18:51 PM
Is it April Fool's Day already????????

Cheers
Greg
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 24, 2022, 02:29:33 PM
Where have you been? They introed it at SEMA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88q1JUKzCHw
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: Don Johnston on January 24, 2022, 02:51:03 PM
Yup,  al the concept car info:
https://www.shelby.com/Vehicles/Shelby-Mustang-Mach-E-GT



Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: 427heaven on January 24, 2022, 03:02:15 PM
Looks like a Prius  with a ZORO stripe. :-[
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: 68countrysedan on January 24, 2022, 03:51:52 PM
Ugh.

Begin with EVs are an answer to a misunderstood question.

In profile, the Mach-E could be a Telsa, Honda, or Buick. IMHO car has no styling identity other than a generic CUV.

The video was borderline lame-o. There could have been more drive-by scenes, not to mention longer tracking shots to show the car exterior. Plus I would be curious to see interior features. Instead, it mainly consists of two old guys talking about it while puttering down the road. Not only that, but the driver sure liked to leave his hands off the wheel while on the road. Can a autonomous driving Shelby be far behind?

Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 24, 2022, 04:43:10 PM
Quote from: 68countrysedan on January 24, 2022, 03:51:52 PM
The video was borderline lame-o. There could have been more drive-by scenes, not to mention longer tracking shots to show the car exterior. Plus I would be curious to see interior features. Instead, it mainly consists of two old guys talking about it while puttering down the road. Not only that, but the driver sure liked to leave his hands off the wheel while on the road. Can a autonomous driving Shelby be far behind?
That was the first public drive of the prototype - the day after SEMA. I linked it because it had reference to CS and his powertrain thoughts. A lot of things are still evolving as he mentioned it's still a year away. They also talked about having to add a bodyline to the blob.
I'm a V8 guy who has owned an EV. While I'll never own another. It is where the future is headed due to .gov intervention in the auto industry and the bogus global warming agenda that EVs actually contribute to far more than they will admit.

PS: Electric cars are a 100+ year old idea. In 1902 Studebaker realized the market was dying for it's Conestoga and Prairie Schooner wagon business so they started building an electric car.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studebaker_Electric
Electric actually made more sense at the time. There were a lot more places with electricity than gas pumps. That is again starting to be the case as gas stations are closing and you can charge you car at home. 

PS - I feel safe with either of those 2 old guys (Rick Titus or Gary Paterson) taking their hands off the steering wheel. In my old age I've become picky of who I ride with, particularly in a fast car. I've been well over 160 with Rick in his Ford GT and everything was fine. While Vince does most of the testing and development driving at SA Gary is no slouch behind the wheel.
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: FL SAAC on January 24, 2022, 05:37:41 PM
Another  3 - H award candidate
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: Grumpy on January 24, 2022, 08:17:41 PM
Do I dare ask ...How much HP ???  :o
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: 68stangcjfb on January 24, 2022, 08:38:14 PM
Who started the black wheel thing? I Hate Black Wheels! Chrome Baby! At least they weren't dumb enough to call it the EV500!
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: FL SAAC on January 24, 2022, 08:40:13 PM
They don't call it horsepower,  they call it kilowatts

358 KW



Quote from: Grumpy on January 24, 2022, 08:17:41 PM
Do I dare ask ...How much HP ???  :o
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: trotrof1 on January 24, 2022, 09:05:48 PM
Someday a future SAAC member will lovingly recall this car as being the apex of performance and styling. Let us hope that date never arrives in our lifetimes.
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: QuickSilverShelby on January 24, 2022, 09:41:51 PM
I saw it at SEMA and I just blew right past it. Sorry to say but it was seriously laughable. What can Shelby offer for a performance upgrade to this car other then exterior emblems, strips and a big mark up for the name. 
There is nothing remotely "Shelby" about this car.  Nothing.

QSS
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 24, 2022, 11:12:07 PM
Quote from: QuickSilverShelby on January 24, 2022, 09:41:51 PM
I saw it at SEMA and I just blew right past it. Sorry to say but it was seriously laughable. What can Shelby offer for a performance upgrade to this car other then exterior emblems, strips and a big mark up for the name. 
There is nothing remotely "Shelby" about this car.  Nothing.

QSS
Different acceleration curve. Bigger motors. More HP. Better handling. There is a lot of performance that Ford has left on the table for the controllers and motors with a large safety margin. The reason for the big vent in the hood is to get the extra temp out of the radiator from cooling the motors and controllers.
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: QuickSilverShelby on January 25, 2022, 10:45:49 AM
If it helps keep the lights on at Shelby Vegas then fine.  I still like going to the production facility/museum so fair enough.  "More Horse Power"..... it should be more kilowatts but you know that old saying "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance then baffle them with bullshit" so let's bring on that extra Shelby horsepower in your "Mustang"  ::)!

QSS
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 25, 2022, 12:06:00 PM
Quote from: QuickSilverShelby on January 25, 2022, 10:45:49 AM"More Horse Power"..... it should be more kilowatts
Electric motors are rated in horsepower. Battery capacity is rated in kilowatts. At higher output (HP), speeds and load electric motors use more current (Kilowatts).

PS - quit calling that engine in your ICE car a motor.......

Electric horsepower is equal to 0.746 kilowatts, the formula to find electric horsepower is the power in kilowatts divided by 0.746.

Europe uses kilowatt to measure all engines and motors: Though it's still commonly used by carmakers, PS or Pferdestärke (horse-strength in German) was actually replaced by kW as the EU's 'legal' measurement of horsepower.
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: Jim Herrud on January 25, 2022, 02:12:22 PM

"PS - quit calling that engine in your ICE car a motor......."

I laughed when I saw this. Back in my school days, my ancient crotchety Electric Power professor said he'd flunk anyone who referred to an ICE as a "motor".
Seems that GM never got the memo.
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: FL SAAC on January 25, 2022, 02:38:06 PM
GMs target is 2035 for all "ELIKTRIK"


Quote from: Jim Herrud on January 25, 2022, 02:12:22 PM

"PS - quit calling that engine in your ICE car a motor......."

I laughed when I saw this. Back in my school days, my ancient crotchety Electric Power professor said he'd flunk anyone who referred to an ICE as a "motor".
Seems that GM never got the memo.
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: Bigfoot on January 25, 2022, 02:48:08 PM
Just mine more Cobalt for EV batteries and call it progress.....
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: 6s1802 on January 25, 2022, 02:49:43 PM
Remember kids they will market douche to keep the brand alive
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: FL SAAC on January 25, 2022, 02:57:44 PM
You pick the title.....

" Cobalt or bust" or "Ghost town comes back to life" or "Here we go again "

The winning team gets an all expense paid trip to this town, NOT !

Up for grabs: A California mining ghost town – and more
https://www.proactiveinvestors.com/companies/news/198732/up-for-grabs-a-california-mining-ghost-town-and-more-198732.html


Quote from: Bigfoot on January 25, 2022, 02:48:08 PM
Just mine more Cobalt for EV batteries and call it progress.....
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: vtgt500 on January 25, 2022, 03:41:17 PM
Quote from: QuickSilverShelby on January 24, 2022, 09:41:51 PM
I saw it at SEMA and I just blew right past it. Sorry to say but it was seriously laughable. What can Shelby offer for a performance upgrade to this car other then exterior emblems, strips and a big mark up for the name. 
There is nothing remotely "Shelby" about this car.  Nothing.

QSS

Just yesterday received a new, Summit catalog.  Full page of Tesla "performance" parts.  Essentially, just steering wheels and replacement, coil springs.

I was also at SEMA last fall.  No one boke stride when walking past the electric mustang.  The drifting course only appealed to 14 year olds.
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 25, 2022, 04:17:39 PM
Quote from: vtgt500 on January 25, 2022, 03:41:17 PMI was also at SEMA last fall.  No one boke stride when walking past the electric mustang. 
How many stopped and looked at the LS powered Tesla?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KmsVytiMDg

I may have to find some dead EV to stick a hot rod V8 in so I can bypass the CA biannual smog hassle.

Quote from: FL SAAC on January 25, 2022, 02:57:44 PM
" Cobalt or bust" or "Ghost town comes back to life" or "Here we go again "

Canada doesn't care what damage they do by mining - they still one of the biggest miners/users of asbestos.
Title: Re: This is a sad day for Shelby owners
Post by: oldcanuck on January 30, 2022, 07:12:37 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 25, 2022, 04:17:39 PM
Canada doesn't care what damage they do by mining - they still one of the biggest miners/users of asbestos.

Uh.... no, not for many years.