Here we go! Fill'er up!
California I presume.
Yep,today 2-13-22
My F 150 tank is 36 gallons
$204.84 to fill with REGULAR
Carton of smokes,large coffee and apple fritter pretty close to $300. Ready for a week.
Pikers
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Filling the Excursion would run me $266 or 51 cents a mile for gas.
What will it be next week?
Hang in there buddy, Larry Kudlow says the calvary is on the way.
Ouch! And I thought 4.899 a gallon for premium yesterday was bad.
Looks like the west coast and some other areas are catching up to us out in the middle of the Pacific. Normally our prices about 30 to 40 percent higher per gallon, but now we are lower than CA. Premium 92 running 4.95 to 5.29/gal. here. I don't mention regular gas prices because few in this forum use 87 octane it in their toys. 8)
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Quote from: Don Johnston on February 14, 2022, 12:07:07 AM
Loooks like the west coast and some other areas are catching up to us out in the midddle of the Pacific. Normally our prices about 30 to 40 percent higher per gallon, but now we are lower than CA. Premium 92 running 4.95 to 5.29/gal. here. I don't mention regular gas prices because few in this forum use 87 octane it in their toys. 8)
A couple of my cars run 19.00 dollars a gallon race gas... 190.00 for ten gallons gets me about half hour of fun.
Not to divert this thread, but what fuel did competition Shelby and Cobra races use back in the 1960's? Was high octane race fuel available or was 93 premium the standard? I know the octane rating formula changed to the (R+M)/2 calculation, so maybe we had different octane ratings. 8)
At one time, I planned to use my '65 Mustang for Vintage Racing. That ship sailed long-ago, but from my research at that time, I remember the fuel requirements for my Vintage class said that the fuel must be "Pump gas, defined as fuel commonly available at roadside gas stations".
I don't know if that was the requirement for the Shelby cars back in the day. The SCCA class fuel requirements may have been different than that allowed in European-based competition.
Though the information below is 6 months out of date, I thought it might be interesting to see how fuel prices vary in this corner of the country.
After visiting SAAC-46 last summer, we continued to drive our '19 GT350 on what became a 4100 mile road trip. The goal was to minimize the time on freeways and prioritize two-lane twisty back roads. We started here in Idaho, drove the scenic route to Sonoma, north up Highway 1 to the Washington Peninsula, to Seattle for a visit with my daughter, then east along the "High Line", including a Columbia River crossing on the Inchelium-Gifford Ferry, across to North Dakota to celebrate my nephew's 20-year Air Force retirement at Minot AFB and finally back home.
We typically stop at brand-name stations and always use Premium fuel. I routinely track my fuel stats, so I summed them up for this trip:
Location Avg. Max Min
Overall $4.34 $5.20 $3.60
California $4.89 $5.20 $4.70
Wash $4.51 $5.07 $4.30
Oregon $4.23 $4.36 $4.00
Montana $3.92 $4.59 $3.60
ND $3.75 $3.75 $3.75 (Only 1 fuel stop in North Dakota)
Idaho $4.05 $4.57 $3.70
Quote from: Don Johnston on February 14, 2022, 12:07:07 AM
Looks like the west coast and some other areas are catching up to us out in the middle of the Pacific. Normally our prices about 30 to 40 percent higher per gallon, but now we are lower than CA. Premium 92 running 4.95 to 5.29/gal. here. I don't mention regular gas prices because few in this forum use 87 octane it in their toys. 8)
I think sunoco had their street blend a pump up to 104 octane ( don't know if it was measured by the current RM method ) but I think the key was that the fuel was LEADED
You mean our muscle cars ran that fast with all that lead in them? 8)
Quote from: Don Johnston on February 17, 2022, 12:51:00 AM
You mean our muscle cars ran that fast with all that lead in them? 8)
We thought they did.....now that's heavy
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LMAO but true
Quote from: 67 GT350 on February 17, 2022, 10:35:36 AM
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$3.74 at the pumps today. Mystifying how we got here, ain't it? Wasn't like that a year ago based upon my recollection and I deem my recollection to be quite good particularly on the aforesaid subject matter.
Same increase in prices in Canada, European countries etc. Not sure any Pres / leader in any country can be that influential, but that's just me. World increases in the price of oil is driving the majority of increases from what I've seen.
global events, unrest in Kazakhstan, instability potentially in Libya, and Russia targeting Ukraine, all are oil producing nations
Covid less people driving, less demand, oil companies cut back on their production levels
Certain "mandates" like close those evil pipelines
But the current concern is Russia that imports into the USA 12 to 26 million barrels of crude / petroleum monthly may be cut off soon
As the great Bachman Turner Overdrive sang "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet ! "
We were fully covered in our gasoline and natural gas needs.
That is a fact.
We were actually exporting some.
We are not like most other countries, we are actually oil rich.
Shutting the pipeline down did nothing but create the need to import crude/fuel. 2=2 = 4
I was buying gas at 1.94 over 15 months ago in Mo, not Illinois, we have two idiots here, Gov Pissker and Dick Durdumb, sorry just the facts please.
Was almost 3.00 gal yesterday in Mo, Illinois was 69 cents more.
Talk on the street over here, Bidumb is best taken with a shot of Kalua, ?sp.
I hope I have not offended anyone here ?
John
In South Fl this is what gas prices look like today
Unleaded 3.49
Midgrade. 3.75
Premium 4.00
Might have something to do with shutting down pipelines and making us foreign oil dependent yet again. My reason for shutting down the pipeline would be to use up the foreign oil and save our own reserves so that when foreign oil ran low or became outrageously expensive, then we would have our own. Somehow, I do not believe that this is the reason for the decision in DC. I would not attribute that level of intelligence or strategy to the individual or individuals responsible. It is merely the serendipity of an otherwise inane decision in bad economic times.
Well since we the people are powerless to in act change, here are some helpful tips to conserve fuel:
Don't start your car
Make sure tires are maintained and properly inflated.
Avoid "jackrabbit" starts and accelerations.
Use cruise control on the highway but not when the road is wet because then you could lose control of your car if you skid.
Avoid extending idling to warm up the engine or in drive-throughs.
One minute of idling maximum is what is recommended.
Lower your vehicle's weight by removing unnecessary bulky items and roof racks.
But the best one is don't start your car
Read this on the Business News Network this morning:
The Texas wildcatters that ushered in America's shale revolution are resisting the temptation to pump more oil as the market rallies, signaling higher gasoline prices for consumers already battered by the worst inflation in a generation.
Crude prices hurtling toward US$100 a barrel typically would spark a frenzy of new drilling by independent explorers in shale fields from the desert Southwest to the Upper Great Plains -- but not this year. Influential players like Pioneer Natural Resources Co., Devon Energy Corp. and Harold Hamm's Continental Resources Inc. just pledged to limit 2022 production increases to no more than 5 per cent, a fraction of the 20 per cent or higher annual growth rates meted out in the pre-pandemic era.
The timing couldn't be worse for consumers. Outside of OPEC, which has rejected U.S. President Joe Biden's pleas to accelerate production increases, domestic shale fields are the only other source of crude that can quickly respond to supply shortfalls. Together with fast-rising global consumption, American drillers' conservatism is likely to keep oil prices elevated for some time to come.
"Whether it's US$150 oil, US$200 oil, or US$100 oil, we're not going to change our growth plans,'' Pioneer Chief Executive Officer Scott Sheffield said during a Bloomberg Television interview. "If the president wants us to grow, I just don't think the industry can grow anyway.''
To be sure, U.S. oil output will rise substantially this year and is forecast to return to pre-pandemic levels by 2023. But it probably won't be enough to knock oil prices off their upward trajectory any time soon.
I dont understand any of this. Biden stops the completion of a pipe line from western canada, but wants to import oil from the middle east. as for canada they dont want oil from western canada but import from united states and middle east.??Politics. What happened to whats good for the people?
Ladies and Gentlemen
bottom line we are screwed (unknown victim with a very big screw)$5+ regular gas here we come !
My solution as I have stated before: Eat less food; by more gas. Triple win because 1. You look better; 2. Become healthier and possibly live longer; 3. Reduce the weight of your car while driving which in turn makes you faster and gets better gas mileage.
Quote from: deathsled on February 18, 2022, 11:12:58 AM
My solution as I have stated before: Eat less food; by more gas. Triple win because 1. You look better; 2. Become healthier and possibly live longer; 3. Reduce the weight of your car while driving which in turn makes you faster and gets better gas mileage.
Just today I took one of my critters out for lunch at 3.99 a gallon of delicious 93 octane
Once I started pumping, I felt cheated and disenfranchised as MY PUMP did not have one of those special stickers.
I immediately went inside and demanded to see management. Boy did i set him straight and he assured me next time he would have a sticker up on MY PUMP !
Thank you very much
The real sad thing is everything pretty much is transported; trains, jets/planes, barges, big and little trucks.
Food prices are going to get even more stupid.
Let alone the heavy equipment like tractors etc that are needed to produce the food.
Big oil companies seemed to be happy selling surplus to other countries at good profit.
Are the leftist that dumb that they do not know it takes underground equipment to mine, equipment to bring to the surface, and then the transport as mentioned above.
Let alone coal & oil to produce the steel and plastic to produce the wind mills and solar panels?
There again, seems the old solar panels and batteries are extremely toxic, go figure.
Hey, I am for solar, wind and other power sources, but lets get real so we do not wreck entire economies ! Balance is the key.
I read an article from the ministry in Australia about solar and wind power, said that the so called advanced systems and storage>> could not even supply enough power to run an average A/C system to cool a normal house everyday >>> that is crazy >>>>>>
Ca got a rude awakening with rolling power outages, not good !
Oil/petroleum is in soooooo many daily products >> it is next to impossible to run a country / economy without it, let alone cosmetics that contain the same to keep our women beautiful .
John
THIS JUST IN : car see's gas prices and comits suicide !
service station changes i.d. sign
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The truckers seem to be fed up.
Can you even remotely imagine what it costs to fill the rigs up?
Inflation is at a 40 year high, it will get worse.
trickle down effect, plain and simple.
The convoy to Capitol may help, as it did in Canada.
But geez, this has to stop, whats the answer?
Respectfully,
John
Ladies and Gentlemen
You know you are in trouble when they replace the I.D. Sign and now they put up a new Price Sign only accepting Gold bars as payment.
Hay caramba !
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Just reporting that in my area gas jumped up from yesterday night to today in the morning a + 20 cents per gallon
Hawaii is seeing prices at the pump running at $5-$5.50/gal. And our wonderful two refineries (Texas owned) out in the middle of Pacific Ocean get their oil from: Libya 57%, Russia 34%, South Sudan 5%, Argentina 4%. And you have issues? 8)
Quote from: Don Johnston on February 24, 2022, 08:28:17 PM
Hawaii is seeing prices at the pump running at $5-$5.50/gal. And our wonderful two refineries (Texas owned) out in the middle of Pacific Ocean get their oil from: Libya 57%, Russia 34%, South Sudan 5%, Argentina 4%. And you have issues? 8)
Bachman Turner Overdrive
"You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet
B-b-b-baby, you just ain't seen n-n-n-nothin' yet
Here's something that you're never gonna forget"
I'm going to keep it short:
THANKS JOE! >:(
Scott.
Looking to invest in a good pair of walking shoes. And walking sticks.
Come on guys, 81,000,000 can't be wrong!
Let's go Brandon!
Quote from: FL SAAC on February 25, 2022, 07:43:54 AM
Quote from: Don Johnston on February 24, 2022, 08:28:17 PM
Hawaii is seeing prices at the pump running at $5-$5.50/gal. And our wonderful two refineries (Texas owned) out in the middle of Pacific Ocean get their oil from: Libya 57%, Russia 34%, South Sudan 5%, Argentina 4%. And you have issues? 8)
Bachman Turner Overdrive
"You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet
B-b-b-baby, you just ain't seen n-n-n-nothin' yet
Here's something that you're never gonna forget"
. "You ain't been around"....... 8)
67 gt350
It still puzzles me and the 81,000,000 million others how:
133,000,000 million voters were documented, no excuses or changing that.
Dems documented that Trump did get roughly 78,000 million votes.
How did Joe Bidumb get 81 million votes then ?
New leftist counting system from Kalua or AOC ?
I get mail from 3 over seas countries, they even ask how that happened.
Car guys seem to stick together, even from around the world !
respectfully,
John
Quote from: deathsled on February 25, 2022, 11:04:33 AM
Looking to invest in a good pair of walking shoes. And walking sticks.
Boy are you in luck, ThomMcan is running a sale on their Job sneakers
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Part correction and force coming ?
Sounds like there is a big push coming from both parties to force BIDUMB to open the gas valves he turned off?
We shall see ?
John
Quote from: Don Johnston on February 15, 2022, 02:50:19 PM
Not to divert this thread, but what fuel did competition Shelby and Cobra races use back in the 1960's? Was high octane race fuel available or was 93 premium the standard? I know the octane rating formula changed to the (R+M)/2 calculation, so maybe we had different octane ratings. 8)
I would imagine SA had their own race fuel stock for going to test at Willow since their ability to supply race fuel wasn't always reliable. If it was an "event" there would always be a race fuel truck you could buy gas from.
At Riverside they had a 76 gas station with race fuel in the pits. It's worth going through all the photos to see the 67 GT 350/500? in the parade laps.
https://www.motortrend.com/features/nascar-vintage-photos-riverside-raceway-motortrend-500
The highest rating sold at local stations was 103 at the Standard Oil White pump. There was a 76 station near me that sold race gas up until about 5 years ago when they redid the station and took out the extra pump and tank.
When I lived in Long Beach, CA there was a Gulf station near Mustangs Plus on Lakewood that sold race gas (out of a 55 gallon drum) by the gallon and also had a pump with Super Unleaded 100 octane that was street legal. The leaded race gas was 110 octane, so I usually got that. Very little price difference between the 110 Leaded and the 100 octane unleaded. It was around $5 a gallon for either one around 2000.
I recently bought 5 gallons of 110 octane leaded VP and it was $95.
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on February 26, 2022, 03:36:39 PM
Quote from: Don Johnston on February 15, 2022, 02:50:19 PM
Not to divert this thread, but what fuel did competition Shelby and Cobra races use back in the 1960's? Was high octane race fuel available or was 93 premium the standard? I know the octane rating formula changed to the (R+M)/2 calculation, so maybe we had different octane ratings. 8)
I would imagine SA had their own race fuel stock for going to test at Willow since their ability to supply race fuel wasn't always reliable. If it was an "event" there would always be a race fuel truck you could buy gas from.
At Riverside they had a 76 gas station with race fuel in the pits. It's worth going through all the photos to see the 67 GT 350/500? in the parade laps.
https://www.motortrend.com/features/nascar-vintage-photos-riverside-raceway-motortrend-500
The highest rating sold at local stations was 103 at the Standard Oil White pump. There was a 76 station near me that sold race gas up until about 5 years ago when they redid the station and took out the extra pump and tank.
Royce,
We were at the September SVRA races at the Glen.
We were shell shocked at the price of the race fuel ourselves.
Did get to see the GT 40 Black # 2 that my friend George Stauffer once owned.
Also did get to see the pre war Alfa that had one of Enzo's first Ferrari engines.
we were racing SVRA under special provision from Tony, which owns the SVRA/ long cool story.
tried to find Curt a few times, but always missed, 530 came through me from George.
Most bad ass car that took top dog awards was an old Dave Allison Bird I believe, that screamed, owner is a SAAC member.
Harris, in ceremony, was being Inducted into the Walk of Fame with his Granite block making our journey two fold. Joins Gurney, Penski, Shelby, Hill, fangio, Colllier, and many other legends.
back to topic, I hope the movement that is currently going on to turn the gas valves back on, and finish the pipelines that is crucial to our country becomes reality.I used to buy from Sunoco when I ran at the drags, and common street racing at Hall Street in St Louis.
I thought it was horrible when gas went to 28 cents a gallon in Belleville Illinois. 1967-1968 and sunoco was around 40 cents a gallon.
Respectfully,
John aka from Utah >>> as Big Jim used to call me.
An Old Dog
The U.S. lives on wheels and most of them burn fossil fuel. This is a temporary (but nevertheless painful) situation. Anyone who lived through the '74 gas crisis knows that you just have to be patient. It will get better because the current administration must either change direction or suffer the consequences in November. No, I'm not making a political statement...Just a fact.
The '74 crisis was when gas went from 25 cents a gallon to maybe 45 cents a gallon. It was brief. What we have today is more like the gas crisis of 1976 - 80 when gas went from 50 cents a gallon to $2.00 a gallon. Back then I was starving. I had the choice of buying gas to go to work or buying food. Budgeting didn't help in the face of runaway inflation like then or now.
Quote from: NC TRACKRAT on February 27, 2022, 09:28:54 AM
The U.S. lives on wheels and most of them burn fossil fuel. This is a temporary (but nevertheless painful) situation. Anyone who lived through the '74 gas crisis knows that you just have to be patient. It will get better because the current administration must either change direction or suffer the consequences in November. No, I'm not making a political statement...Just a fact.
Quote from: Royce Peterson on February 27, 2022, 01:59:44 PM
The '74 crisis was when gas went from 25 cents a gallon to maybe 45 cents a gallon.
The first gas crisis was when Jimmy Carter got the price to $1. It's been creeping up ever since until they decided an energy independent US wasn't fitting their agenda and killed exploration and the pipeline. Which has more than doubled the price (pre war). Soon the Ruskies will shut off natural gas to the Germans and we will step in and supply them. This will make ours double in price (just like gasoline - again) due to a short supply.
I checked race gas today. 55 gallon drum of Sonoco 112 octane is about $10 a gallon. 5 gallon lots are $90. I may go back to aviation 100 octane low lead it's under $5 still around here.
Nixon was president in '74 when the first one happened. In 1979 I was paying $2 a gallon for premium in Dallas, TX. My hourly wages were $5.50. Shortly thereafter leaded premium was illegal to make or sell and I got used to paying the same price for 92 octane unleaded.
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on February 27, 2022, 06:41:17 PM
Quote from: Royce Peterson on February 27, 2022, 01:59:44 PM
The '74 crisis was when gas went from 25 cents a gallon to maybe 45 cents a gallon.
The first gas crisis was when Jimmy Carter got the price to $1. It's been creeping up ever since until they decided an energy independent US wasn't fitting their agenda and killed exploration and the pipeline. Which has more than doubled the price (pre war). Soon the Ruskies will shut off natural gas to the Germans and we will step in and supply them. This will make ours double in price (just like gasoline - again) due to a short supply.
I checked race gas today. 55 gallon drum of Sonoco 112 octane is about $10 a gallon. 5 gallon lots are $90. I may go back to aviation 100 octane low lead it's under $5 still around here.
Quote from: Royce Peterson on February 27, 2022, 07:57:33 PM
Nixon was president in '74 when the first one happened. In 1979 I was paying $2 a gallon for premium in Dallas, TX. My hourly wages were $5.50. Shortly thereafter leaded premium was illegal to make or sell and I got used to paying the same price for 92 octane unleaded.
73 was the perfect storm of 1950s policies running head on into OPEC who decided to exercise their clout on the world oil market for political reasons.
Actually it was caused by the Eisenhower policy and an embago by OPEC of those who supported Israel in their 1973 war. OPEC had also tried it during the 1967 war but it fell flat on it's face when some members still wanted the cash. It was a mere hic-up compared to recent events.
A big problem has been the middle east dumping cheap oil on the world market. They were happy to let foreign companies do all the work and just rake in the free money. With all the cheap oil it didn't make sense for companies to drill in the US where it cost $4 a barrel to produce when they could buy on the open market for $3. Ike tried to keep US production up but that didn't work.
In 1973, US production had declined to 16% of global output. Eisenhower imposed quotas on foreign oil that would stay in place between 1959 and 1973.
......committee recommended that the quotas be abolished and replaced with tariffs but Nixon decided to keep the quotas due to vigorous political opposition. Nixon imposed a price ceiling on oil in 1971 as demand for oil was increasing and production was declining, which increased dependence on foreign oil imports as consumption was bolstered by low prices. In 1973, Nixon announced the end of the quota system. Between 1970 and 1973 US imports of crude oil had nearly doubled, reaching 6.2 million barrels per day in 1973. Until 1973, an abundance of oil supply had kept the market price of oil lower than the posted price.
The 1973 oil crisis or first oil crisis began in October 1973 when the members of the Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries led by Saudi Arabia proclaimed an oil embargo. The embargo was targeted at nations that had supported Israel during the Yom Kippur War. By the end of the embargo in March 1974, the price of oil had risen nearly 300%, from US$3 per barrel ($19/m3) to nearly $12 per barrel ($75/m3) globally
Did not know about the Eisenhower connection. Interesting.
Quote from: Royce Peterson on February 27, 2022, 10:52:24 PM
Did not know about the Eisenhower connection. Interesting.
When SHTF you always need to look at previous administrations. A lot of times you'll find BS they enacted that doesn't take effect until just before or just after they leave office.
Going through my photo gallery found this picture of a Costco gas price sign circa November 2020
Unleaded 1.77
Premium. 2.02
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A new high experienced by me today - not a good high. I'm with the family on a ski trip on the mountains of British Columbia, Canada. I paid $2.02 Cdn a litre for 91 octane for my daughter's car this morning. If my math is correct, that adjusted for the # of litres in the US gallon and converted to $US = $6.03 US per US gallon !!
Does anybody here think that Bidumb will change directions from the left, and ALLOW our crude to flow and be processed?
This is a total wipe out for huge numbers of small businesses and consumers, 60% of undesirables are going down
This is pure insanity.
Respectfully,
John
Another question...will Bidumb stop supporting Putin by importing Russian oil to replace U.S. oil that he stopped from being pumped??? ::) >:(
TOB
Quote from: TOBKOB on March 03, 2022, 08:56:11 AM
Another question...will Bidumb stop supporting Putin by importing Russian oil to replace U.S. oil that he stopped from being pumped??? ::) >:(
TOB
Probably NO, this would raise prices at the pump. One has to think of the elections his and others in his party.
All but 4 countries in the world have cut banking and trade deals with Russia.
TOBCOB
Shear reckless and wanton policy >> buying oil/gas from Russia, >>>> literally helping Putin in Ukraine
Killing jobs here, and soon to be doubled pricing on every consumer good you can possibly think of
It has to stop.
Respectfully
John
That's not the case this time. The current White House resident is entirely responsible for the runaway inflation we are experiencing.
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on March 01, 2022, 10:24:46 PM
Quote from: Royce Peterson on February 27, 2022, 10:52:24 PM
Did not know about the Eisenhower connection. Interesting.
When SHTF you always need to look at previous administrations. A lot of times you'll find BS they enacted that doesn't take effect until just before or just after they leave office.
Today I'm thankful ::) for the announcement about the release of Oil from various strategic reserves, as announced during the speech on Tuesday. The price at the pump here (pretty much dead center of where there were 6 or 8 refineries a few years back) jumped "just" [another] 40 cents within the last week... one can only imagine what it would have done otherwise?
I'd have to double-check my old records, but am sure that this is the highest prices ever seen in this area. ouch.
Yup I heard that also, but unfortunately it takes time for refineries to convert crude oil into gasoline, diesel fuel and other petroleum products and more time for those fuels to reach consumers. In the meantime, experts say, it's likely that the average price of gasoline in the U.S. will continue to climb.
I paid $4.49 per gallon for diesel yesterday...up 45 cents in 1 day... >:(
Look out for steep price increases on everything... :)
TOB
Queen Pelosi and the wrecking crew bowed down yesterday and waved her hand to agree to produce oil, gas etc, ?
Going against Bidumb to open the pipeline?
Needless to say, our commander in Chief and AOC will decide.
If I have read correctly, strategic reserves are for emergency and National Security , NOT for abusive policies creating shortages killing our economy and the middle class down to deplorable' s. That is one B---- that should be in prison.
.
Seems some house members, senate members, both parties, joined together to push the common sense plan.
I sure hope there plan prevails.
Respectfully,
John
UPDATE, I guess AOC said no !!!!!!!!!!
QuoteIf I have read correctly, strategic reserves are for emergency and National Security , NOT for abusive policies creating shortages.
That's what I always thought, but obviously our government knows best. 1 or 2 days supply isn't going to make a lot of difference. Better pray that a real emergency doesn't happen.
TOB
Quote from: TOBKOB on March 04, 2022, 01:30:58 PM
QuoteIf I have read correctly, strategic reserves are for emergency and National Security , NOT for abusive policies creating shortages.
That's what I always thought, but obviously "our government knows best". 1 or 2 days supply isn't going to make a lot of difference. Better pray that a real emergency doesn't happen.
TOB
^^^ Right.
I once won a radio contest for the "Best Lie" with the old one, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help" ::)
I figured that the "announcement" about releasing from the Reserve was intended to make "Bidumb" (thanks to John for the naming!) look good to the legions of liberals.
Went out this morning premium was 3.99
Just got home from Fort Lauderdale premium up to 4.49
Thank you !
Diesel is $5.25 per gallon here today.
In an effort to justify their high gas prices, the entrepreneurs have relabeled their pumps.
Has anyone tried either blend and which one is recommended for our cars?
I highly recommend the GREEN stuff... The yellow is for cheap BBQ parties. with your buddies. ;)
When I am pouring in 19.00 dollar a gallon high test, I often think my baby is swilling CRYSTAL to get its groove on. ;D
Quote from: Harris Speedster on March 04, 2022, 10:44:19 AMIf I have read correctly, strategic reserves are for emergency and National Security ,
True and as we get nearer to WWIII our military will need the fuel. The Japanese screwed up at Pearl Harbor. They didn't hit the oil storage areas. If they had it would have taken us at least 6 months to get enough fuel in the area to mount a counter attack. I'll wager none of our enemies would make the same mistake today.
If everyone in the USA would stop driving for one day nothing would happen and we all know that not everyone will stop driving.
A one day drop in demand would have zero effect overall. Well, maybe the stock market would freak out for a day but only if media made a big deal out of it.
But they won't because the news will pick up and know that petitions are being signed to promote a one day stop, so it's going to be just one day.
The US consumes about 3.3 billion barrels per year. One day would equal a drop in the bucket.
What would cause some concern is if everybody started buy EV's instead of gas burning cars.
Just like electric companies are starting to worry about solar panels and trying to discourage their use, oil companies would probably drop the price of gas to 30 - 50 cents a gallon to discourage people buying electric.
FL SAAC
Therein lies the problem.
Even if we could stop the use of fossil fuel for a few days as you mentioned, the companies that would freak would be electric companies and us, being the consumers.
How does one produce the electricity then?
Even dams use fossil fuel, let alone fossil fuel to build the parts for the massive generators used in all dams.
Smelting copper, steel etc would stop.
That is a Stale mate my friends, fossil fuel wins out though !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Power outages is what will make the difference and shutting down food processing lines of all types , trucks, cars and smelter plants?
I wonder, after consumers boiled like a lobster in their home's with no A/C, how well that would work, oh boy !
John
Quote from: Harris Speedster on March 24, 2022, 08:11:48 AM
FL SAAC
Therein lies the problem.
Even if we could stop the use of fossil fuel for a few days as you mentored, the companies that would freak would be electric companies and us, being the consumers.
How does one produce the electricity then?
Even dams use fossil fuel, let alone fossil fuel to build the parts for the massive generators used in all dams.
Smelting copper, steel etc would stop.
That is a Stale mate my friends, fossil fuel wins out though !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Power outages is what will make the difference and shutting down food assembly lines of all types , trucks, cars and smelter plants?
I wonder, after consumers boiled like a lobster in their home's with no A/C, how well that would work, oh boy !
John
+ 1 exactly my point, there is NO WAY to stop for one day
New high in gas prices today in northern California.
Roy
Being as old as I am, I never thought I'd say this but, like Christmas, I can't wait for November to get here...I'm just sayin'.
Quote from: NC TRACKRAT on June 04, 2022, 06:53:17 AM
Being as old as I am, I never thought I'd say this but, like Christmas, I can't wait for November to get here...I'm just sayin'.
I agree, but having said that
When life gives you lemons, make lemonade
Still not to late to buy oil stocks and dump them before they crash again chevron, exxonmobil
$5.01 a gallon today ( 6-4-22 ) in Central Illinois.
Get ready for the farmers growing a large part of our crops in the US to drastically raise commodity prices.
Not there fault !
Is it PUKEN as BIDUMB says ????
California aka Kommifornia gas prices have reached $6.80, $7+ and in some areas $9 bucks a gallon. Don't worry, all of the idiots there will still vote Democrat. Here in Vegas, gas is on average between $4.94-$5.25.
93 octane at $5 .19 in S Fl