I found this website today on Virginia Mustang's Facebook page of 5S558 being advertised for sale. Very nice photos. Nice car. I saw this car at Pebble Beach in 2015.
http://www.donlee.com/gt350 (http://www.donlee.com/gt350)
...a lotta coin...
I ran into this car in October 2016 at a La Jolla classic car dealer after it returned from Scotland. Dealer told me it sold at the time for $425k. Can't load any pics, folder is full
Yeah me either...
Here is the car in the 80's sitting in my neighbors front driveway. It is the car that got me hooked on mustangs, and specifically fastbacks. I stayed awake many nights thinking of how to restore that Shelby. I am so glad it is back to better than showroom condition. Now if only the lottery would hit, I would fulfill my dream...
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/258-160518113307.jpeg)
Since I can not attach a photo here is a link
https://flic.kr/p/2674Qjd
I wonder if those are repop black plates? The 2008 title shows a series that would be on the blue/yellow plates.
Notice...no side exhaust
I believe the plates are most likely authentic for two reasons.
First the picture of the 1973 Registration lists the plate number RRW 834 and it does not appear to be "doctored".
Second the car was delivered to Warren-Anderson Ford in Riverside along with three other cars and my license plate records shows that one of these cars received a plate with the RRW prefix.
Dennis
I can tell you that the original plates were still on the car when it was sold form the original owner. I can not find a period picture of the car that includes the plates... I will keep looking.
I have seen a couple of older pictures of the car but they are poor quality and do not clearly show the plates.
I hope you do find something in your files.
there was a whole thread on this car on the old forum, including pictures just after bought from original owner. But alas they are all gone.
I presume that this is a restored car rather than an original survivor?
Quote from: shelbydoug on May 16, 2018, 11:20:41 AM
I presume that this is a restored car rather than an original survivor?
Yes completely restored, although it was a very complete car when restored.
is the current owner on the forum?
shouldn't this chassis have white overspray? not just black?
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/258-160518165354.jpeg)
Quote from: Dkutz on May 16, 2018, 04:54:42 PM
shouldn't this chassis have white overspray? not just black?
I would think it should also.
Quote from: shelbydoug on May 16, 2018, 04:58:51 PM
Quote from: Dkutz on May 16, 2018, 04:54:42 PM
shouldn't this chassis have white overspray? not just black?
I would think it should also.
The pinch weld was painted last, so I would say the white is under the black.
^^
Would think that also
Quote from: Dkutz on May 15, 2018, 09:05:03 PM
Here is the car in the 80's sitting in my neighbors front driveway.
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/258-160518113307.jpeg)
Since I can not attach a photo here is a link
https://flic.kr/p/2674Qjd
What car?
5s444 was also sold by Warren Anderson Ford on Nov. 10 1965, and the original plates are still with the car. I guess the DMV handles both cars on the same day ? Original plate is RRW833. What a coincidence. I tried to upload the photo of my car with the original plate, but for some reason ( my file size is 449kb ) the upload folder is full. Mark
Not doubting that the number on the black plate is the same as originally issued but.....the 2008 title shows the car license was 2QHQ822. There are places you can buy repo CA plates that DMV will approve for use.
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on May 16, 2018, 08:14:05 PM
Not doubting that the number on the black plate is the same as originally issued but.....the 2008 title shows the car license was 2QHQ822. There are places you can buy repo CA plates that DMV will approve for use.
If you look closely at the current picture of the plate, it is an old plate that has been cleaned up. IMHO
Quote from: doublemyv on May 16, 2018, 08:00:24 PM
I tried to upload the photo of my car with the original plate, but for some reason ( my file size is 449kb ) the upload folder is full. Mark
It seems you now have to load your pictures in your photo gallery, and then link it in your post. No easy way anymore it seems.
Quote from: silverton_ford on May 16, 2018, 05:41:02 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on May 16, 2018, 04:58:51 PM
Quote from: Dkutz on May 16, 2018, 04:54:42 PM
shouldn't this chassis have white overspray? not just black?
I would think it should also.
The pinch weld was painted last, so I would say the white is under the black.
Here is 66 #033. Pics from Virginia classic mustang. I know they are not the same year or batch, but they don't look at all the same, so which is correct?
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/258-160518220541.jpeg)
Quote from: Dkutz on May 16, 2018, 04:54:42 PM
shouldn't this chassis have white overspray? not just black?
If there is some under the pinch weld black out it's not as much as typically applied by the factory given other original examples and factory pictures. Number of other details missing so the body color overspray is only one thing to take notice if you're looking at the car. As usual, just a general comment, don't use other restorations be your guide to how you car should be done
Quote from: Dkutz on May 16, 2018, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: silverton_ford on May 16, 2018, 05:41:02 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on May 16, 2018, 04:58:51 PM
Quote from: Dkutz on May 16, 2018, 04:54:42 PM
shouldn't this chassis have white overspray? not just black?
I would think it should also.
The pinch weld was painted last, so I would say the white is under the black.
Here is 66 #033. Pics from Virginia classic mustang. I know they are not the same year or batch, but they don't look at all the same, so which is correct?
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/258-160518220541.jpeg)
Red oxide underside with body color overspray from when getting full coverage of painting the rockers body color. It gets quite a bit of overspray. White especially shows up. On top of the body color overspray would be the black overspray from the process of doing the pinch weld blackout . That is what you see on a factory painted car of the year and from the plant being discussed. It varied from car to car sometimes with lessor amounts sometimes compared to the Virginia car but not dramatically IMO. The underside in the reply #14 picture has a lot of incorrect factory details . I would not suggest copying the details of the picture in reply #14 for many reasons not detailed here.
Quote from: Dkutz on May 16, 2018, 08:36:35 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on May 16, 2018, 08:14:05 PM
Not doubting that the number on the black plate is the same as originally issued but.....the 2008 title shows the car license was 2QHQ822. There are places you can buy repo CA plates that DMV will approve for use.
If you look closely at the current picture of the plate, it is an old plate that has been cleaned up. IMHO
When you got new plates you were to turn in the old ones to DMV.
Isn't the amount of black too much because the angle of the gun is from underneath and the factory shot it from the side in the case of the pinch weld and from the top in the case of the engine compartment?
I've seen lots of what I thought were original floor pans on white cars where the floor pans all the way up to the gear shift hole have like a batch mix of white and red oxide that makes them look pink.
That makes the entire underside very messy and unpredictable. The only place on those cars showing really red oxide is up in the tunnel and even there it is almost like a Rustoleum bronze-ish red because of a cloud of white overspray?
What I am saying is these undersides are WAY to CLEAN and detailed as compared to original "you figure out the mess" originals?
As mentioned, there are tons of variations in the over spray amounts, colors, over spray patterns, etc. depending upon when the car was produced, not to mention the plant. Since it's a Shelby forum, I guess we will just stick with San Jose here.
If at all possible, document and photograph the original finish before the car is stripped of that finish. There is absolutely no substitute to duplicating the original finish on the very car that is being restored! On some cars, this isn't possible. On most though, it is possible, but it usually takes a lot of patience and time.
Jeremy spent a tremendous amount of time duplicating the original underside finish on 6S033. The same was done for 6S933, and you can see how different it is from 6S033. Other than the fact that a totally different color was used, you will note that there was not near as much body color overspray.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/218yIU1szkS2mRCLF02U3gJY9FArKhnrtxzX2A4u-ykJZzTt8U11IfnU1jtVU7YltWQZ4hMGOVJXXWxkrxIt6VOeR16mf9qsA6nXplWb7suqW7jlH1QudwWNxX5-v2u4mFCiDksqOBFkVrgsPDhPJHcfdBwgwuB6WA7RQ8_8z1hbKUcWgJucq5jruf2__eUUEdm9tV8BZaGY2uoz-XX2ml5dXTjOld3Qw4lP6CjHwKij01cfUxRUgEZn1Ko7RcOYLCjdgh4jJP2wabiWddl0EqvaUzLIAUC2xzroLUm3mPo1CiuI5bWzsjkZxYDFE85m3N0_pic5j2THKwDC2hvQKq7LLYHIkGlG0cAzA8wU5hb-xwcD3mgM8ZEU7PkM2uq2gUx68ao5uPuW-wz1Qgu6p4ZMwjS2HAiC15uCQenCn_C3wJe2694iaJSmUZHj7KeIQALxvM81xXkJAksLV7KMRXgVmHCuARt4jA0NOwLg_RdBJddebsbe6f5AHmBCrwvsqbFBAaZqe_kEWEQXT_JUqSBNl-kE4abARE7zTC-iEuJpBGsrbIEkJRYZ7Z5dxeQqelmez6f4urjJAYhB1TJEom6AmLuW_t7AR0XSdO0SlsjQN3y5rmgRVrskCC0rX1DJ7fsIluzES6iD8H3WYxwAComW3kTiZBNBXQ=w800-no)
...and here is a sneak peak at a very early production/first batch '65 GT350. Over 8 hours was spent gently cleaning the underside of a previous owners black out "detail job". The original finish was beautifully preserved underneath and will be duplicated during the restoration. It's black with an absolute ton of body color (white) over spray.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uSqTGezciio-1lD0JhEYhwzjh5jBep1xlbsKlTLTxn-DUHc-7bY-mULUb7JhZgBGph2YyRlTSezBSiNTdH1CX6f3n9om7d_5YPiCyK1oFQQvTfPThXxlgJTrvEAiDQBrxzw96oTGWQeHAKndokTij0TI86W26tx_1QN310E1DUBvEiaSnNJPbhoaDiKoftkbS_bD2iYE-m42qkeznxDT9iJGPFr7atXKeC65pK_baYnTRoAjHyguLGMKays_azexM3xHlT1GkSVHvCzwmFMz9yGBbOaI4a5XxE8VPTMwaacLiNi7AAlSy_hegA1bdrKxou-Y1PjSZcnPREk5751YwQ3hiltHClDmQLirU49LapMio-Gkq6RltJ9lOqzCdPmMBt_m9rzMjluCY-L5spend1kVT8cuoGUUhwnnhbIRzPKKSLDlqz2mN_91bmNOJM15kSKK-9vwOoCVKq_rbi76XG5FxRrzLopZ0JQDOWjlVZgHjIXbA5IFLAk1w0zXn-iyFejMxQHYcCOrRbXtA8nwV5YlfhN6CGydDpI7IDfdPI6c_nJ9Sw4GLX7XlK10qYD8d5AiO73fuEsBNx2KfOvtCN7hJl8JCk_iOh89upgJK8DIJV4RL_dFQV12fK83a2TZcUBP0peKJ_4c_tWnGrxMTMfPn3fho_wvIg=w800-no)
That's so ugly, it's got to be original factory? ::)
From pictures that I have of the car from previous postings, I believe that the plates were first issue for this 5S444. Even if not so, they do appear to be original from 1965 series plates.
From the list of plates that I received from Howard he indicated that 5S444 received CA plates RPW 833 based upon a photo that he had. From early pictures of the car I could see where he could have seen it as RPW, but upon looking closer I was seeing RRW. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
Once again of others know of first issue plates for any cars, please let me know as the list continues to grow.
Thanks,
Dennis
I wish we could retrieve the info gathered on this car from the OLD forum... argh
My 66 GT 350 # 409 sold in So Cal had TQK 446, still have them... A piece of History they are. :)
Thanks for the information on 6S409. I did not have this one recorded. Much appreciated.
Do you know what dealership it was sold from? I don't have my Directory handy right now.
there was talk on here, and also from the original owners son, that 558 was not an original side exit exhaust car.
Quote from: shelbydoug on May 17, 2018, 07:26:19 AM
Isn't the amount of black too much because the angle of the gun is from underneath and the factory shot it from the side in the case of the pinch weld and from the top in the case of the engine compartment?
From the gun or mounting spray jets to apply the black
Quote from: shelbydoug on May 17, 2018, 07:26:19 AMI've seen lots of what I thought were original floor pans on white cars where the floor pans all the way up to the gear shift hole have like a batch mix of white and red oxide that makes them look pink.
Depends on the time period the car was produced. Some periods had a pinkish base (epoxy primer) while others a dark batch grey or muddy red oxide sort of base color
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/10/6-170518140835.jpeg)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/10/6-170518140905.jpeg)
This late example was very dark
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/10/6-170518141403.jpeg)
While this period - just a short time later was much different
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/10/6-170518141648.jpeg)
Won't, in this thread, get off topic and into 1966 colors and patterns. Sort of got off thread in anyway ;)
I have a couple pictures I have found of 558 before and during restoration, but they are not mine so I don't want to post them here without permission.
Hey everyone. I purchased 558 from the original owner, via Craig Conley, in 2008. I have a ton of pictures of the car in its original state before I sold it to Bobby. I can tell you with 100% certainty that the car is NOT originally a side pipe car. Also the car had both original plates on the car. One of the plates hangs on my office wall to this day and the other one went with the car when I sold it to Bobby. If there are two plates on the car now one is probably original and the other one is a repo.
Quote from: Chad on May 17, 2018, 03:45:07 PM
Hey everyone. I purchased 558 from the original owner, via Craig Conley, in 2008. I have a ton of pictures of the car in its original state before I sold it to Bobby. I can tell you with 100% certainty that the car is NOT originally a side pipe car. Also the car had both original plates on the car. One of the plates hangs on my office wall to this day and the other one went with the car when I sold it to Bobby. If there are two plates on the car now one is probably original and the other one is a repo.
Thanks for confirming. Pictures would be awesome...
in jeffs post #35, second picture, the trunk support brace shows a typical red oxide primer that is different from the underbody. i think its possible that the underbody red primer becomes much darker with age, road grime and oils.
Quote from: EdwardGT350 on May 17, 2018, 04:33:46 PM
in jeffs post #35, second picture, the trunk support brace shows a typical red oxide primer that is different from the underbody. i think its possible that the underbody red primer becomes much darker with age, road grime and oils.
Two issues come into play here. The exterior body, interior and so on was sprayed with a different red oxide (one that promoted attachment of the body color to the base metal) than what was used on the undercarriage - either front the firewall forward or rearward. Both being epoxy based. So they would not have originally been the same color, texture or look.
Also in the time period when that car was built the floor was covered with a batch very dark grey finish from the firewall rearward and a red oxide from firewall forward on the frame rails
Now in that particular picture it appears that the area your referencing was sprayed by the owner or builder more recently (someone did a small spot in the wheel well also over the factory sound deadener) for some reason. Often but not always the bottom of that panel below the rear window gets little or any direct paint or primer application since it required extra effort and would not normally be seen by an owner standing with the trunk opening. But of course the red primer would not be the color we would see there instead some body color overspray mixed with some direct application to the rear edge
Hope this explains what I'm trying to communicate :)
Quote from: EdwardGT350 on May 17, 2018, 04:33:46 PM
in jeffs post #35, second picture, the trunk support brace shows a typical red oxide primer that is different from the underbody. i think its possible that the underbody red primer becomes much darker with age, road grime and oils.
The underside of the front frame rails is often a different color than the floor pans. Sometimes same for the rear brace. This is missed on most restorations.
Definitely should start a new topic on a post that originally started out about a 65 GT350 for sale. :) :)
I saved Craig Conley's comments about 558 from the old SAAC forum with some pictures before the resto. Someone before the resto had called it a "barn find".
It was a driveway find
Quote from: Chad on May 17, 2018, 09:19:48 PM
It was a driveway find
:).
Again I have a few before pictures I got off Facebook, but they are not mine so I don't want to post.
Quote from: Chad on May 17, 2018, 03:45:07 PM
Hey everyone. I purchased 558 from the original owner, via Craig Conley, in 2008. I have a ton of pictures of the car in its original state before I sold it to Bobby. I can tell you with 100% certainty that the car is NOT originally a side pipe car. Also the car had both original plates on the car. One of the plates hangs on my office wall to this day and the other one went with the car when I sold it to Bobby. If there are two plates on the car now one is probably original and the other one is a repo.
What exhaust did it have originally? Did it have the '66 GT350 type exhaust on it? Full length with headers?
The last batch of cars were made that way?
Quote from: shelbydoug on May 18, 2018, 06:33:18 AM
Quote from: Chad on May 17, 2018, 03:45:07 PM
Hey everyone. I purchased 558 from the original owner, via Craig Conley, in 2008. I have a ton of pictures of the car in its original state before I sold it to Bobby. I can tell you with 100% certainty that the car is NOT originally a side pipe car. Also the car had both original plates on the car. One of the plates hangs on my office wall to this day and the other one went with the car when I sold it to Bobby. If there are two plates on the car now one is probably original and the other one is a repo.
What exhaust did it have originally? Did it have the '66 GT350 type exhaust on it? Full length with headers?
The last batch of cars were made that way?
Yes you are correct. 66 exhaust with headers. I assume that is Ford Factory GT exhaust, less the headers?
Interesting... I thought they all came with the side exiting exhaust. Is this the only '65 to come with rear exiting exhaust?
Quote from: sfm5 on May 18, 2018, 01:58:40 PM
Interesting... I thought they all came with the side exiting exhaust. Is this the only '65 to come with rear exiting exhaust?
There are other cars on record that had the rear exhaust . It had to do with the nose level being too high. In the states where SA was getting push back cars that had headers and factory Non GT exhaust (like 66) were delivered to solve the problem.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on May 18, 2018, 09:13:59 PM
Quote from: sfm5 on May 18, 2018, 01:58:40 PM
Interesting... I thought they all came with the side exiting exhaust. Is this the only '65 to come with rear exiting exhaust?
There are other cars on record that had the rear exhaust . It had to do with the nose level being too high. In the states where SA was getting push back cars that had headers and factory Non GT exhaust (like 66) were delivered to solve the problem.
Never knew that, thanks Bob. That makes sense, especially being a very late car, as I have read a number of accounts from original owners where they were getting hassled by the police over the noise levels.
Quote from: doublemyv on May 16, 2018, 08:00:24 PM
5s444 was also sold by Warren Anderson Ford on Nov. 10 1965, and the original plates are still with the car. I guess the DMV handles both cars on the same day ? Original plate is RRW833. What a coincidence. I tried to upload the photo of my car with the original plate, but for some reason ( my file size is 449kb ) the upload folder is full. Mark
Did 444 come with side exhaust or rear exhaust?
I have a late 65 delivered to Hayward Ford that was bought new with the rear exiting exhaust, according to the original owner. I have a picture of the car from early 66 showing the exhaust that I will attempt to post. I am pretty sure it is the standard 65 exhaust with glass packs just exiting the rear of the car, not a factory non GT exhaust. I believe the Shelby parts catalog shows a similar exhaust.
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/716-230518195647.jpeg)
Great picture!!
Quote from: PaulD on May 23, 2018, 07:46:22 PM
I have a late 65 delivered to Hayward Ford that was bought new with the rear exiting exhaust, according to the original owner. I have a picture of the car from early 66 showing the exhaust that I will attempt to post. I am pretty sure it is the standard 65 exhaust with glass packs just exiting the rear of the car, not a factory non GT exhaust. I believe the Shelby parts catalog shows a similar exhaust.
FYI the standard 65 exhaust and the non GT exhaust would be the same thing. There was no such thing as a 65 standard exhaust with glass packs. Other then the side exhaust a Glass pack system would be aftermarket.The system in the catalog had glass packs. Just in case you are not aware the GT exhaust has the tips coming out holes made into the rear valance .The non GT exhaust has turn down tips that end at the rear valance. Other then the tips the rest of the exhaust is the same between the two systems from the factory. The exhaust in the catalog would most likely be one that would be added after a side exhaust car was found to be too loud,police problems etc.after it was delivered. That is if the Dealer didn't just have a muffler shop weld one up like what came in the catalog which would most likely been cheaper and faster. Another possibility would be that the side exhaust car was modified beginning at where the side exhaust glass packs end and a over the rear axle pipe added. This would not be something that was added at SA. The factory non GT duel exhaust would be what was on the cars when they were delivered to SA. There would be no logical reason for SA to spend extra money on a different exhaust when a perfectly good one was already installed on the body when it came in. All bets are off after the car is delivered to the dealer however.
I should have said standard 65 GT350 exhaust with glass packs. My car has the holes in the floor pan for the glass pack mounts, but had no signs of any mounts at the leaf springs. So Hayward Ford must of replaced the side pipes with rear pipes keeping the glass packs forward. Seems a little strange, but I don't have anything other than the original owners statement that it had a rear exiting exhaust when he purchased it and a picture of the car a few month old still wearing the blue dots. :)
These are the cars that recieved special exhaust aka rear exit stock hipo exh. according to Shelby records
207
227
241
309
320
329
371
395
397
401
414
419
421
422
425
426
428
429
421
430
448
450
453
460
465
467
481
483
485
503
506
513
542
555
556
Here are the cars that were changed to rear exhaust due to state laws. The parts were furnished by SA and the warranty work was done by the dealer.
030
069
090
240
293
324
372
474
526
Quote from: acman63 on May 24, 2018, 02:07:01 PM
These are the cars that recieved special exhaust aka rear exit stock hipo exh. according to Shelby records
207
227
241
309
320
329
371
395
397
401
414
419
421
422
425
426
428
429
421
430
448
450
453
460
465
467
481
483
485
503
506
513
542
555
556
Funny I don't see 558 on that list. Although the early picture of the car shows no side exit, and Original owners son doesn't think it had side exhaust. Wierd. Maybe Lloyd switched it early in its life?
558 was not switch from side exhaust to rear exit exhaust because there were no holes in the floor pans for the side exhaust I would post pictures but I can not figure out how to do it. It says that something is full.
Quote from: Chad on May 24, 2018, 04:27:20 PM
I would post pictures but I can not figure out how to do it. It says that something is full.
PM sent...
Was the transmission crossmember and E-brake bar painted black from factory?
Quote from: Silver Bullitt on August 24, 2018, 07:09:48 PM
Was the transmission crossmember and E-brake bar painted black from factory?
Trans cross member - Yes
Ebrake "bar" (if I understand what your describing) - no
Quote from: Chad on May 24, 2018, 04:27:20 PM
558 was not switch from side exhaust to rear exit exhaust because there were no holes in the floor pans for the side exhaust I would post pictures but I can not figure out how to do it. It says that something is full.
Not all 65s with side exhaust had holes for hangers in the floor pan. The explanation I got from some of the SA employees were that since the mufflers were just clamped on at SA rather than welded , that once they were delivered they would start loosening up in use as there was only the bracket left on the leaf spring . They instructed the dealers to support the system with a strap bracket thus lots of dealers just drilled in to the floor pan tunnel
Quote from: PaulD on May 23, 2018, 07:59:41 PM
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/716-230518195647.jpeg)
What a cool period photo 8)
Quote from: acman63 on August 24, 2018, 10:15:59 PM
Quote from: Chad on May 24, 2018, 04:27:20 PM
558 was not switch from side exhaust to rear exit exhaust because there were no holes in the floor pans for the side exhaust I would post pictures but I can not figure out how to do it. It says that something is full.
Not all 65s with side exhaust had holes for hangers in the floor pan. The explanation I got from some of the SA employees were that since the mufflers were just clamped on at SA rather than welded , that once they were delivered they would start loosening up in use as there was only the bracket left on the leaf spring . They instructed the dealers to support the system with a strap bracket thus lots of dealers just drilled in to the floor pan tunnel
Early cars did not have the extra strap used to hold the pipe where it turns out. The later cars typically came with the extra hanger. I think it was the early cars that may have got converted by Dealers to include the extra hanger if it became a problem. The extra hanger is pictured and included in the 65 Shelby exhaust picture.
If the exhaust is not welded and is clamped like original, you will find that it's almost impossible to keep it in place without those "hangers" on the floor pan also.
If it's welded all up, just the hangers at the leaf springs bolts (at the rocker) work fine by themselves.
Did 558 sell? The website is not up anymore. Would love to know where it ended up.
Quote from: Dkutz on April 24, 2019, 12:23:52 PM
Did 558 sell? The website is not up anymore. Would love to know where it ended up.
+1
I just found a cool pic of 558 on the day it was bought by the original owner. Thought I would share here for future reference. Would love to know where 558 is today.
Thinking of the picture of the car and girl, my friend in Sweden was selling his 68 GT350 and he said to a prospective buyer
he wanted 100000 SEK for it but if the buyer was willing to take his wife with the car, he wanted 50000 SEK.
Texas Swede
Quote from: 69mach351w on August 24, 2018, 10:17:08 PM
Quote from: PaulD on May 23, 2018, 07:59:41 PM
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/716-230518195647.jpeg)
What a cool period photo 8)
Remember when putting a STP sticker on your car (or bicycle) instantly made it cooler?
Quote from: Side-Oilers on January 20, 2023, 03:49:09 PM
Quote from: 69mach351w on August 24, 2018, 10:17:08 PM
Quote from: PaulD on May 23, 2018, 07:59:41 PM
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/716-230518195647.jpeg)
What a cool period photo 8)
Remember when putting a STP sticker on your car (or bicycle) instantly made it cooler?
It also gave you another 10 HP too ;D . at least that was what we wanted to believe.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on January 20, 2023, 04:59:48 PM
It also gave you another 10 HP too ;D . at least that was what we wanted to believe.
I used have "part" ownership of a 1965 Dodge Dart, 273 2V, kind of a "community" car. We put every high performance sticker we could think of on the back side windows. The extra weight of the stickers made the car slower...