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Title: Gabriel shocks
Post by: JohnB on March 28, 2022, 09:38:06 AM
I have located a dealer with a lot of (Several 1000) vintage Gabriel shocks with an ...interesting a$king figure!
What part#s would be smart to look for?

Thanks
John
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: Coralsnake on March 28, 2022, 09:49:58 AM
I have never seen the Gabriel part numbers, however Gabriel shocks that look like their original Ford counterparts were sold under the name "Strider" and "Red Rider"

The main thing would be to look for Mustang specific shocks that look like the original shocks they made for Ford.

It's unlikely you will find the Ford versions.
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: Coralsnake on March 28, 2022, 09:52:14 AM
(http://www.thecoralsnake.com/69shocks.JPG)
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: rhjanes on March 28, 2022, 10:07:58 AM
Mid to late 70's, I put myself thru college selling auto parts.  Gabriel were the main shocks we sold.  They were good products.  The Striders and Red Riders both.  But these were non-Ford, Aftermarket shocks.  I don't think in my 4+ years of selling them, we ever had one returned due to a failure.
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: gt350hr on March 28, 2022, 11:26:19 AM
  Adjustable E shocks for the Mustang are very good too.
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: JohnB on March 28, 2022, 11:29:00 AM
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 28, 2022, 09:49:58 AM
I have never seen the Gabriel part numbers, however Gabriel shocks that look like their original Ford counterparts were sold under the name "Strider" and "Red Rider"

The main thing would be to look for Mustang specific shocks that look like the original shocks they made for Ford.

It's unlikely you will find the Ford versions.

They have a lot of Striders! Do not think they have any Ford versions.

Thanks
John
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: JohnB on March 28, 2022, 11:30:06 AM
Quote from: gt350hr on March 28, 2022, 11:26:19 AM
  Adjustable E shocks for the Mustang are very good too.

Never heard about them! Any pics or part#s?

Thanks
John
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: Coralsnake on March 28, 2022, 12:04:04 PM
Gabriel was the original manufacturer of many Ford shocks

Their aftermarket lines carried similar looking shocks, but they could not sell the Autolite versions.
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: CharlesTurner on March 28, 2022, 12:20:13 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 28, 2022, 12:04:04 PM
Gabriel was the original manufacturer of many Ford shocks

Their aftermarket lines carried similar looking shocks, but they could not sell the Autolite versions.

+1... even some early Mustangs had a 'G' insignia on the front shocks, along with the normal Ford engineering number/date.
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: Jbarela on July 25, 2022, 06:34:09 PM
I have these rears as spares..if pics dont show I cN PM someone to post.
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: Bob Gaines on July 25, 2022, 07:01:31 PM
Quote from: Jbarela on July 25, 2022, 06:34:09 PM
I have these rears as spares..if pics dont show I cN PM someone to post.
With those date codes the adjustable Ford shocks would typically be painted a Blue. At least on all of the original Shelby examples that I have seen where they came standard. The lighter Ford engine blue is a very close match.
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: outlawincorporated on July 25, 2022, 11:46:42 PM
here is a blue Gabriel take from a 66 350H

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Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: Bob Gaines on July 26, 2022, 09:35:15 PM
Here is a good example of a original early unrestored 66 GT350 shock .The lighter Ford blue engine color is very close.
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: J_Speegle on July 26, 2022, 11:29:48 PM
From my experience the color used for the blue in 66 appears to vary a bit not sure if this is connected to batches (dates) or day to day and remember that pictures on the internet or from cameras can differ allot based on settings, lighting as other things. Exposure of one set verses is another reason for the differences in tint

Likely have a few dozen examples in pictures from that many cars

Here are a couple of examples of original paint front examples. Believe these two were slightly different colors though they look very different in the pictures

(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/11/6-270119161931.jpeg)


And I had some original color (after I removed the top layer of exposed paint) match. Same color two different lighting shots

(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/17/6-260722233223-177481901.jpeg)
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: J_Speegle on July 26, 2022, 11:37:03 PM
Quote from: JohnB on March 28, 2022, 09:38:06 AM
I have located a dealer with a lot of (Several 1000) vintage Gabriel shocks with an ...interesting a$king figure!
What part#s would be smart to look for?


John the challenge with what you have found is that the over the counter adjustable Gabriels went through at least 4-5 different changes including shape, washer size, markings and other details. If we provided a number then you would need to examine and compare to see how far off the what you found is from what the original your looking for was like. As for numbers you can make them out on many of the examples I posted below

As part of these changes the shocks were made in three (at least) different countries as I understand it. US, Mexico and Canada

Here are a number of examples (pictures) I have of the different  variations and in some cases part numbers being used during those periods


Believe this is a Stryder. Notice the much smaller (than for out shocks) upper washer on this example of a front shock

(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/17/6-260722234928-177501912.jpeg)


Stryders


Gabriel Adjustable "E" shocks

(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/17/6-260722234935-177522258.jpeg)


Styders Computer Tuned next to a 66 version. Easy to see just some of the differences

(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/17/6-260722234935-17752793.jpeg)

And a pair of rears
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/17/6-260722234924-177492224.jpeg)


Gabriel stamped large on the main body of cover
Front
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/17/6-260722234938-177541906.jpeg)

Rear
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/17/6-260722234940-177551528.jpeg)


Red Ryder with large Gabriel

(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/17/6-260722234941-17756648.jpeg)


And another version originally painted red so might be another Red Ryder with a slightly different set of markings

(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/17/6-260722234929-177511575.jpeg)
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: TA Coupe on July 27, 2022, 04:26:32 PM
Ford was still using adjustable Gabriel striders into the late seventies. Here's a couple of pics of one of my 1978 king Cobra ones.  I thought I read somewhere that they can be rebuilt. Does anyone know if this is true?

        Roy
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: Bob Gaines on July 27, 2022, 04:36:30 PM
Quote from: TA Coupe on July 27, 2022, 04:26:32 PM
Forward was still using adjustable Gabriel striders into the late seventies. Here's a couple of pics of one of my 1978 king Cobra ones.  I thought I read somewhere that they can be rebuilt. Does anyone know if this is true?

        Roy
Ebay seller Dan Patch used to . He is the only one currently offering that service who adv on ebay
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: TA Coupe on July 27, 2022, 09:27:39 PM
Thanks Bob!!

       Roy
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: TA Coupe on July 27, 2022, 09:33:35 PM
Found him Bob:
https://dansshocks.com/spiral-shocks/

       Roy
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: Royce Peterson on July 28, 2022, 11:44:12 AM
Hopefully it's a typo:

"I can also rebuild your Mustang shocks $275.00 each $3250.00 each for the Shelby adjustable"

https://dansshocks.com/mustang-shelby-and-boss/ (https://dansshocks.com/mustang-shelby-and-boss/)
Title: Re: Gabriel shocks
Post by: SCJSTU on August 04, 2022, 10:15:05 AM
Quote from: TA Coupe on July 27, 2022, 09:33:35 PM
Found him Bob:
https://dansshocks.com/spiral-shocks/

       Roy

just got a set from Dan for my 69 GT350.......had to wait 14 months......he only works a couple days a week now.........they look great but trust they look orig as my current ones are aftermarket