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Title: DRIVE SHAFT
Post by: johnzajc@gmail.com on June 09, 2018, 03:12:01 PM
Hi-- I have original 69 drive shaft painted fake color mimic bear metal, since than I walnut blasted to remove the paint , after blasting it just does not look the same---would it be better to change the tube and re weld ends or have original welds and tube that has been media cleaned---p.s. I am trying to keep car as original as possible---please do not hesitate call me nut case I know I should never used media blaster---thanks 
Title: Re: DRIVE SHAFT
Post by: J_Speegle on June 09, 2018, 04:31:45 PM
Maybe if you post a picture we would have a better idea of what your now starting with.

You can restore (refinish, replace the welds and the heat traces/blueing) many of these depending on the drivelines current condition

Walnut shell blasting should not have altered the exterior surface much compared to other choices but it also depends on the what you started with.

As stated above a picture or pictures would sure help

Title: Re: DRIVE SHAFT
Post by: BGlover67 on June 11, 2018, 07:17:52 PM
I just got these from John:


(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/196-110618191401.jpeg)


(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/196-110618191429.jpeg)


(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/196-110618191452.jpeg)


(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/196-110618191525.jpeg)
Title: Re: DRIVE SHAFT
Post by: johnzajc@gmail.com on June 11, 2018, 08:56:06 PM
Is possible to come to conclusion what is  original to 69 CJ not SCJ in respect to being considered correct--so far some of the biggest names in restoration have somewhat different version and to me everyone is right. Some feel that all automatic big block had tapered shaft, while others feel that only SCJ had tapered and than is me that only get headache out of it, and will gladly comply with what ever you specialist feel is correct, and than of course does anyone has one for sale.                                                 yours truly  John Zajc---please help me from going insane--thanks
Title: Re: DRIVE SHAFT
Post by: acman63 on June 11, 2018, 10:56:40 PM
Shelbys convert had a tapered driveshaft in it when we restored it ,  was a C6  car but not a super
Title: Re: DRIVE SHAFT
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 12, 2018, 12:04:15 AM
Quote from: johnzajc@gmail.com on June 11, 2018, 08:56:06 PM
Is possible to come to conclusion what is  original to 69 CJ not SCJ in respect to being considered correct--so far some of the biggest names in restoration have somewhat different version and to me everyone is right. Some feel that all automatic big block had tapered shaft, while others feel that only SCJ had tapered and than is me that only get headache out of it, and will gladly comply with what ever you specialist feel is correct, and than of course does anyone has one for sale.                                                 yours truly  John Zajc---please help me from going insane--thanks
I am one of the ones that feel that the BB automatic got the tapered driveshaft regardless of if SCJ or not.
Title: Re: DRIVE SHAFT
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 12, 2018, 12:24:38 AM
Quote from: johnzajc@gmail.com on June 12, 2018, 12:12:20 AM
Bob and you are also the one that deserves the most respect for trying to help when needed---thanks again, is just that I have no knowledge to make concrete decision, that why a lot of us are at mercy of you guys that obviously have skill needed. So if it was your car what would you do---thanks
First off you can't find one of those driveshafts easily if at all. Second only a tiny fraction of the Ford Mustang /Shelby enthusiast community even know that they exist let alone pick it out a show or cruise night. Given those two facts I would dress up the 4 speed driveshaft to a presentable condition based on your expectations and run that. You can always keep a eye out for the correct one. Don't hold your breath but keep a eye out . FYI there are quite a few people searching that I am aware of.     
Title: Re: DRIVE SHAFT
Post by: OldMil on June 13, 2018, 03:39:13 PM
Can anyone share a picture of the tapered shaft?
Title: Re: DRIVE SHAFT
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 13, 2018, 07:03:31 PM
Quote from: OldMil on June 13, 2018, 03:39:13 PM
Can anyone share a picture of the tapered shaft?
I'll give it a try.(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/66-130618185519.jpeg)
Title: Re: DRIVE SHAFT
Post by: KR Convertible on June 13, 2018, 09:51:31 PM
I thought old dogs couldn't learn new tricks!!   ;)
Title: Re: DRIVE SHAFT
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 13, 2018, 09:53:31 PM
Quote from: KR Convertible on June 13, 2018, 09:51:31 PM
I thought old dogs couldn't learn new tricks!!   ;)
I'm trying. Ed Meyer gave me computer lessons  ;) .
Title: Re: DRIVE SHAFT
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 14, 2018, 01:24:58 AM
Quote from: johnzajc@gmail.com on June 14, 2018, 01:11:33 AM
Hi -BOB we found in scrap pile on the back of hanger exactly the same shaft as you  show on your photo---however I do not seem to have enough clearance from exhaust--exhaust I have is from SCOTT FULLER. Drive shaft saga just does not go away, I am as confused as ever which shaft to use, the one I sent you photos is with Jack getting detailed, but know since I have tapered shaft do you suggest to get rid of straight shaft and use tapered---HEADACHE, thanks to put up with this. John
If there is not enough clearance maybe it is not exactly like the picture because it would normally fit otherwise.It is awfully coincidental that you would happen to have the correct hard to find driveshaft laying around the hanger. Excuse me for being skeptical but since the clearances are too tight given one of Scott's typical spot on exhaust it is more likely that it is not exactly the same CJ driveshaft . I hope I am mistaken. Ultimately the one like in the picture is assemblyline. Others that don't look like the picture being used on the 69/70 GT500 auto application would not be assemblyline. It is hard to know what you have,what is the problem and how to solve the problem on this side of the computer monitor.
Title: Re: DRIVE SHAFT
Post by: BGlover67 on June 14, 2018, 05:33:09 PM
Ok, more pics:

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/196-140618172905.jpeg)


(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/196-140618173007.jpeg)


(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/196-140618173120.jpeg)
Title: Re: DRIVE SHAFT
Post by: Special Ed on June 14, 2018, 06:52:11 PM
original U =joints still on driveshaft
Title: Re: DRIVE SHAFT
Post by: Tor on June 14, 2018, 07:45:08 PM
Hello
My 70 500 conv got the tapered driveshaft

Tor
Title: Re: DRIVE SHAFT
Post by: OldMil on June 15, 2018, 11:34:45 AM
Thanks for the pics, guys.  It appears from both pictures that a yellow/red/yellow marking paint was used, maybe some pink?  Can you determine the paint patterns?
Title: Re: DRIVE SHAFT
Post by: johnzajc@gmail.com on June 15, 2018, 06:38:37 PM
I will be back at the hanger on Monday an will check in what order was painted, although keep in min I have no concrete proof from which car it came from--CHEERS