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Title: New FIA COBRA DAYTONA exact Recreations (corrected)
Post by: TransamEd on June 10, 2018, 03:11:16 AM
Peter Brock will be showcasing the first with AMMAS/Germany at the Ring this next Friday.

http://www.fordmuscle.com/news/daytona-coupe-replicas-for-vintage-racing-fia-approved/
Title: Re: New FIA COBRA DAYTONA Replicas
Post by: Bill on June 10, 2018, 08:15:08 AM
Peter Brock will be showcasing the first with AMMAS/Germany at the Ring this next Friday.

http://www.fordmuscle.com/news/daytona-coupe-replicas-for-vintage-racing-fia-approved/

David Kirkham is now working on chassis #12 and #13  8)
Title: Re: New FIA COBRA DAYTONA Replicas
Post by: EdwardGT350 on June 10, 2018, 08:34:23 AM
price?
Title: Re: New FIA COBRA DAYTONA Replicas
Post by: TransamEd on June 16, 2018, 03:54:37 PM
(http://www.ponysite.de/BrockDaytona2018RINGweb.jpg)
Picture Tim O.Fuchs
Title: Re: New FIA COBRA DAYTONA Replicas
Post by: CSX2259 on June 16, 2018, 04:13:41 PM
Peter Brock will be showcasing the first with AMMAS/Germany at the Ring this next Friday.

http://www.fordmuscle.com/news/daytona-coupe-replicas-for-vintage-racing-fia-approved/

David Kirkham is now working on chassis #12 and #13  8)

I do not believe that this venture has anything to do with the Kirkhams version of the Daytona Coupe? According to the Brock released story the coupes that he is building are on digitally scanned copies of the original six. The article also said that the bodies would be hand formed, the Kirkhams use a mechanical stretching / forming method to produce their body panels. I could be wrong but I've heard nothing of any collusion between Kirkham and Brock on this project.
Title: Re: New FIA COBRA DAYTONA Replicas
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on June 16, 2018, 04:34:44 PM
price?
If you have to ask..................... but, I'd wager it's 3-4 times what the Old Venice guys are charging for an FIA approved GT350 R.
Title: Re: New FIA COBRA DAYTONA Replicas
Post by: TransamEd on June 16, 2018, 04:54:34 PM
I haven't got the full details of this or a general deal yet and involved people have not been very outspoken  ....working day and night to get it finished. This car in 1964 Le Mans dress is sold already to a european buyer.

I guess tomorrow there is more official information available, when the car can actually pace the field with Peter Brock driving (if it runs properly).

From what I heard CSX2287 is the base for the second "digital scan" project. But it may be built by others?




Title: Re: New FIA COBRA DAYTONA Replicas
Post by: TransamEd on June 17, 2018, 04:15:17 AM
It will pace today at 2.00 pm CET  the 3 hour Youngtimer trophy.
(http://www.ponysite.de/AMMAS_FIA_Daytona2018web.jpg)


Title: Re: New FIA COBRA DAYTONA Replicas
Post by: shelbydoug on June 17, 2018, 07:04:53 AM
Peter Brock will be showcasing the first with AMMAS/Germany at the Ring this next Friday.

http://www.fordmuscle.com/news/daytona-coupe-replicas-for-vintage-racing-fia-approved/

David Kirkham is now working on chassis #12 and #13  8)

I do not believe that this venture has anything to do with the Kirkhams version of the Daytona Coupe? According to the Brock released story the coupes that he is building are on digitally scanned copies of the original six. The article also said that the bodies would be hand formed, the Kirkhams use a mechanical stretching / forming method to produce their body panels. I could be wrong but I've heard nothing of any collusion between Kirkham and Brock on this project.

Collusion? Are you trying to suggest that only Russian oligarchs can afford one? That does make sense. I haven't seen any Saudi sheiks diving them.

"mechanical stretching/forming"? You mean they are stamping the panels? "Stamping them" by hand. Six guys need to come and stand on the lever handle to bend it?  :o

CSX2287 is the one the doctor has with the little wheel well lips pop riveted on? Lots of raw jagged sheet metal edges on that one on the doors.
Title: Re: New FIA COBRA DAYTONA Replicas
Post by: CSX2259 on June 17, 2018, 02:24:54 PM
Peter Brock will be showcasing the first with AMMAS/Germany at the Ring this next Friday.

http://www.fordmuscle.com/news/daytona-coupe-replicas-for-vintage-racing-fia-approved/

David Kirkham is now working on chassis #12 and #13  8)

I do not believe that this venture has anything to do with the Kirkhams version of the Daytona Coupe? According to the Brock released story the coupes that he is building are on digitally scanned copies of the original six. The article also said that the bodies would be hand formed, the Kirkhams use a mechanical stretching / forming method to produce their body panels. I could be wrong but I've heard nothing of any collusion between Kirkham and Brock on this project.

Collusion? Are you trying to suggest that only Russian oligarchs can afford one? That does make sense. I haven't seen any Saudi sheiks diving them.

"mechanical stretching/forming"? You mean they are stamping the panels? "Stamping them" by hand. Six guys need to come and stand on the lever handle to bend it?  :o

CSX2287 is the one the doctor has with the little wheel well lips pop riveted on? Lots of raw jagged sheet metal edges on that one on the doors.

Maybe not "stamping" them but stretching the aluminum sheet metal over a form.

https://youtu.be/G8S1TVomM0Q
Title: Re: New FIA COBRA DAYTONA Replicas
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on June 17, 2018, 09:00:17 PM
This is a better video on how the originals were done. It shows why there are variations between each car. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7B7lCDq7cY The Kirkham video shows what is todays production tooling. Produces the same shape every time.
Title: Re: New FIA COBRA DAYTONA Replicas
Post by: TransamEd on June 18, 2018, 02:01:03 AM
This FIA version officially called PBX2299-1 was "handmade" from scratch using a wooden bucket. They shared some pictures of the building on their below mentioned FB site in the past monthes.

Here is the proud AMMAS team yesterday at the RING and the car just staged for the Media in the Parc fermé
(http://www.ponysite.de/TheAMMASteam18web.jpg)
(http://www.ponysite.de/2018Brockmediaweb.jpg)
Pics from my mate Tim O.Fuchs

http://americanmuscleservice.com/
https://www.facebook.com/americanmuscleservice/

Title: Re: New FIA COBRA DAYTONA Replicas
Post by: CSX2259 on June 18, 2018, 02:06:35 AM
That's the point I was trying to make, the Kirkham built coupes are made using more modern methods.