http://www.fordmuscle.com/news/buy-a-shelby-cobra-daytona-coupe-from-its-original-designer/
It's not just "continuation" Cobras and Shelby Mustangs any more. 8)
Doesn't say what power plant it will have, but it does have power windows, locks and A/C!!
This article indicates 289's.
http://www.fordmuscle.com/news/daytona-coupe-replicas-for-vintage-racing-fia-approved/
greek
Mining history for a quick buck.....How original...... ::)
Quote from: greekz on June 11, 2018, 02:55:58 PM
This article indicates 289's.
http://www.fordmuscle.com/news/daytona-coupe-replicas-for-vintage-racing-fia-approved/
greek
Thank God! I was afraid they would put a "Bow Tie" in it!
Hey, but it is going to be in that mysterious "Shelby registry" promoted by Shelby Licensing(?). 8)
Quote from: greekz on June 11, 2018, 02:55:58 PM
This article indicates 289's.
http://www.fordmuscle.com/news/daytona-coupe-replicas-for-vintage-racing-fia-approved/
greek
Quote from: KR Convertible on June 11, 2018, 03:11:14 PM
Thank God! I was afraid they would put a "Bow Tie" in it!
Ask Brock what engine is in his car. ::)
Quote from: 2112 on June 11, 2018, 07:48:10 PM
Quote from: greekz on June 11, 2018, 02:55:58 PM
This article indicates 289's.
http://www.fordmuscle.com/news/daytona-coupe-replicas-for-vintage-racing-fia-approved/
greek
Quote from: KR Convertible on June 11, 2018, 03:11:14 PM
Thank God! I was afraid they would put a "Bow Tie" in it!
Ask Brock what engine is in his car. ::). Mazda rotary? :o
To receive FIA certification it would have to have a 289 engine.
Shelby Engines is producing an aluminum block 289 HIPO. Easier to stamp your VIN into it.
I asked what is in Brock's car.
Brock's car has an LS.
+ 1..... sure does...
Ford with a Chevy in it eh?Another real original move.I think I need to find a vette to put a boss motor in to start "evening" things up in the universe :o
Quote from: 557 on June 13, 2018, 04:01:32 PM
Ford with a Chevy in it eh?Another real original move.I think I need to find a vette to put a boss motor in to start "evening" things up in the universe :o
I've often thought, it would be fun, to install a Ford engine, in a Corvette, making it look as
Factory as possible ( orange paint and all ) and then drive it, to a Corvette meet. Pop the
hood and stand back, to watch the fireworks. ;D
Quote from: A-Snake on June 13, 2018, 03:27:35 PM
Brock's car has an LS.
Exactly.
I don't have any ill will towards Chevys. Love a lot of Corvettes. Using a GM motor in what is for all intents and purposes a Ford? >:(
There is a guy who put a Hemi in a Pantera and more recently a Chevy, whichever the 600hp supercharged one is, in a Pantera.
In both cases the modification is so extreme, it's difficult to recognize the car as a Pantera.
In any case, using the Chevy is like putting tits on the middle linebacker of the NY Giants. Basically, something you can show off in the locker room and take lots of pictures with but as far as function goes, you may as well race a donkey?
Brock's Superformance Coupes used the LS Chevy engines. His new venture is building exact copies of the 1960s SAI team Daytona Coupes. To comply with FIA certification the Daytona's have to be exact replicas of the original, engines, transmissions, differential, aluminum body, brakes and carburation. Basically the 1960s Daytona but built today.
Aerovault is part of the Deal. Tell me, why do I need an aero trailer when I would tow it with a Brick 2-Ton in front?
The "continuation" MkIV's from Holman I saw at SAAC 36 in VA, were going for $950,000 at the time.
I'm sure that has something to do with Brock's thought process on the "racing legal coupes".
I don't know what the price is on them but after experiencing the "you're not our kind of people" reaction from Holman I wondering what the Continuation Cobra Coupes are priced at? Do any of you know the price?
Maybe it isn't written down anywhere and they just whisper in your ear?
Quote from: CSX2259 on June 13, 2018, 07:17:26 PM
Brock's Superformance Coupes used the LS Chevy engines. His new venture is building exact copies of the 1960s SAI team Daytona Coupes. To comply with FIA certification the Daytona's have to be exact replicas of the original, engines, transmissions, differential, aluminum body, brakes and carburation. Basically the 1960s Daytona but built today.
. But leather seats,POWER steering,power windows ,etc. are o.k.?Interesting idea of a "replica"...Think I'll stick with my 67.It is EXACTLY what it looks like it is(and it's one hell of a lot cheaper!)
I would have voted for the Coupe to be the '68 Cobra rather then the Lone Star. It certainly is as good as the Viper Coupe and considering the influence that it has on that car, I'd think superior?
An aluminum skin is really impractical though but a/c, power everything and a/c would be just a plus in my book.
I had heard that Carroll didn't care for the car BUT the source of that might be Pete Brock? That if true kinda' puts a crimp the "visionary" compliment to CS?
Quote from: shelbydoug on June 14, 2018, 02:41:16 PM
I would have voted for the Coupe to be the '68 Cobra rather then the Lone Star. It certainly is as good as the Viper Coupe and considering the influence that it has on that car, I'd think superior?
An aluminum skin is really impractical though but a/c, power everything and a/c would be just a plus in my book.
I had heard that Carroll didn't care for the car BUT the source of that might be Pete Brock? That if true kinda' puts a crimp the "visionary" compliment to CS?
Yeah maybe if the a/c is on an electric compressor so as not to rob power but I think power steering would sacrifice road feel and probably overkill on a presumably light car(unless you plan to do a lot of parallel parking ,etc.)IMHO
Quote from: 557 on June 14, 2018, 03:57:14 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on June 14, 2018, 02:41:16 PM
I would have voted for the Coupe to be the '68 Cobra rather then the Lone Star. It certainly is as good as the Viper Coupe and considering the influence that it has on that car, I'd think superior?
An aluminum skin is really impractical though but a/c, power everything and a/c would be just a plus in my book.
I had heard that Carroll didn't care for the car BUT the source of that might be Pete Brock? That if true kinda' puts a crimp the "visionary" compliment to CS?
Yeah maybe if the a/c is on an electric compressor so as not to rob power but I think power steering would sacrifice road feel and probably overkill on a presumably light car(unless you plan to do a lot of parallel parking ,etc.)IMHO
Lots of race cars are using power steering now and an electric motor power steering is quite common.
Quote from: 557 on June 13, 2018, 04:01:32 PM
Ford with a Chevy in it eh?Another real original move.I think I need to find a vette to put a boss motor in to start "evening" things up in the universe :o
You mean AC with a Ford in it. 1st Coupe body was US built on English chassis next 5 were hammered out by Italians and had errors from Brock's original. Brock's current car is exactly how he wanted the originals. As far as the Chevy debate goes let's never forget that CS went to Chevy first and didn't consider Ford until GM quit taking his calls. SA has been offering the 9000 Series Coupe for some time now.
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on June 14, 2018, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: 557 on June 13, 2018, 04:01:32 PM
Ford with a Chevy in it eh?Another real original move.I think I need to find a vette to put a boss motor in to start "evening" things up in the universe :o
You mean AC with a Ford in it. 1st Coupe body was US built on English chassis next 5 were hammered out by Italians and had errors from Brock's original. Brock's current car is exactly how he wanted the originals. As far as the Chevy debate goes let's never forget that CS went to Chevy first and didn't consider Ford until GM quit taking his calls. SA has been offering the 9000 Series Coupe for some time now.
It was a ploy to get to Ioccoca. He heard Shelby was talking about Chevy's and when he heard that Carroll was talking to that Russian guy Duntov or Zuntov or WTF he called him self he told his aid, "we had better give that guy some engines before he comes around and bites us in the ass". ;)
Good thing to. I'd hate to see all of this aluminum turn into that crappy fiberglass toilet seat stuff GM used? :o
Quote from: shelbydoug on June 21, 2018, 06:40:52 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on June 14, 2018, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: 557 on June 13, 2018, 04:01:32 PM
Ford with a Chevy in it eh?Another real original move.I think I need to find a vette to put a boss motor in to start "evening" things up in the universe :o
You mean AC with a Ford in it. 1st Coupe body was US built on English chassis next 5 were hammered out by Italians and had errors from Brock's original. Brock's current car is exactly how he wanted the originals. As far as the Chevy debate goes let's never forget that CS went to Chevy first and didn't consider Ford until GM quit taking his calls. SA has been offering the 9000 Series Coupe for some time now.
It was a ploy to get to Ioccoca. He heard Shelby was talking about Chevy's and when he heard that Carroll was talking to that Russian guy Duntov or Zuntov or WTF he called him self he told his aid, "we had better give that guy some engines before he comes around and bites us in the ass". ;)
Good thing to. I'd hate to see all of this aluminum turn into that crappy fiberglass toilet seat stuff GM used? :o
I think Ioccoca's actual quote was "give that guy a couple engines and get him outta here."
I'm sure there's more than one official story/memory/urban legend, but CS said to me that Iacocca's remark was "Give him what he wants before he bites somebody."
Kopec should know for sure what the real deal was.
Quote from: shelbydoug on June 14, 2018, 02:41:16 PM
I would have voted for the Coupe to be the '68 Cobra rather then the Lone Star. It certainly is as good as the Viper Coupe and considering the influence that it has on that car, I'd think superior?
An aluminum skin is really impractical though but a/c, power everything and a/c would be just a plus in my book.
I had heard that Carroll didn't care for the car BUT the source of that might be Pete Brock? That if true kinda' puts a crimp the "visionary" compliment to CS?
Many years ago I drove Pete Brock to the Denver airport after one of the first Boulder museum Christmas party . Myself and a friend asked all kinds of questions given the celebrity we had in the car. Besides answering all of our questions he was excited to volunteer his new Coupe story. He did say not to mention it for the time being which had us busting at the seams to tell others because we didn't(we felt special ;D ). The Coupe was still in the design phase and not ready for sale yet but Pete Brock said CS was furious when he ran it by him what he was doing. CS felt that the design belonged to him and Shelby American Pete Brock said. Pete Brock said he was going to do it anyway.
After researching the background with the FIA Daytona Coupe team over here...the 2 projects shape up a bit more
- This linked one - just now published - for modernized versions by Legendary Supercars/BRE
http://performance.ford.com/enthusiasts/media-room/20180/06/new-shelby-daytona-coupes.html
- The other for FIA approved exact recreated copies with the few related required safety improvements like side impact protection - based on individually 3D-scanned recreations and made in Europe. PBX2299_01 was the first, PBX2287_1 is the next.
Article about these FIA racers soon to appear on Ford Performance as well.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on June 22, 2018, 12:03:03 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on June 14, 2018, 02:41:16 PM
I would have voted for the Coupe to be the '68 Cobra rather then the Lone Star. It certainly is as good as the Viper Coupe and considering the influence that it has on that car, I'd think superior?
An aluminum skin is really impractical though but a/c, power everything and a/c would be just a plus in my book.
I had heard that Carroll didn't care for the car BUT the source of that might be Pete Brock? That if true kinda' puts a crimp the "visionary" compliment to CS?
Many years ago I drove Pete Brock to the Denver airport after one of the first Boulder museum Christmas party . Myself and a friend asked all kinds of questions given the celebrity we had in the car. Besides answering all of our questions he was excited to volunteer his new Coupe story. He did say not to mention it for the time being which had us busting at the seams to tell others because we didn't(we felt special ;D ). The Coupe was still in the design phase and not ready for sale yet but Pete Brock said CS was furious when he ran it by him what he was doing. CS felt that the design belonged to him and Shelby American Pete Brock said. Pete Brock said he was going to do it anyway.
Sure. Everything was his intellectual property. Just like the "Registry". One of the lawyers must have introduced that term to him? I guess Brock just had his "thumbprints" all over it? Sounds familiar? He didn't even pay for the thing. Ford did.
Savvy businessman or shyster?Tomatoe/Tomato...
;D
When I win the lottery (never bought a ticket) I am going to put a SOHC 427 Ford motor in a 1963 Corvette Split window. Yes, I am tired of brand X motors in Fords.
Rob
^^^
or put a Coyote 5.0 motor in it...
That will really get the GM crowd worked up since all we hear about these days is the LS motor getting dropped into just about everything with 4 wheels.
Quote from: robert campbell on June 26, 2018, 08:38:23 PM
When I win the lottery (never bought a ticket) I am going to put a SOHC 427 Ford motor in a 1963 Corvette Split window. Yes, I am tired of brand X motors in Fords.
Rob
Better. Put it in a Grand Sport. ;)
Quote from: robert campbell on June 26, 2018, 08:38:23 PM
When I win the lottery (never bought a ticket) I am going to put a SOHC 427 Ford motor in a 1963 Corvette Split window. Yes, I am tired of brand X motors in Fords.
Rob
Quote from: Richstang on June 26, 2018, 08:45:58 PM
^^^
or put a Coyote 5.0 motor in it...
That will really get the GM crowd worked up since all we hear about these days is the LS motor getting dropped into just about everything with 4 wheels.
Quote from: shelbydoug on June 26, 2018, 08:53:17 PM
Better. Put it in a Grand Sport. ;)
Now we're talkin
Quote from: shelbydoug on June 14, 2018, 02:41:16 PM
I would have voted for the Coupe to be the '68 Cobra rather then the Lone Star. ........
I had heard that Carroll didn't care for the car ............
Ever sat in or driven one of the original coupes? Cramped/hot/noisy/etc not something you'd expect to sell many of for street use.
CS bad mouthed the Coupe ("damn thing didn't work") when he was trying to (sue?) get Pete Brock from making any money on the replicas so he could again line his pockets for someone else's work.
+1..... ;D
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on June 30, 2018, 02:00:39 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on June 14, 2018, 02:41:16 PM
I would have voted for the Coupe to be the '68 Cobra rather then the Lone Star. ........
I had heard that Carroll didn't care for the car ............
Ever sat in or driven one of the original coupes? Cramped/hot/noisy/etc not something you'd expect to sell many of for street use.
CS bad mouthed the Coupe ("damn thing didn't work") when he was trying to (sue?) get Pete Brock from making any money on the replicas so he could again line his pockets for someone else's work.
It's a Cobra with a roof. The criticism is redundent. Ever drive a "Shelby" without A/C? Very little difference. Want to talk about cramped? Ever sit in or drive a "40"?
My Pantera ain't exactly made for NBA or NFL players either. ;)
Everything was money for ole' Shel'. He didn't want to bring any of the Cobras back from Europe. They were just used race cars no one wanted.
Who exactly was the intended target for the Lone Star? Actor Michael Dunn?
Quote from: shelbydoug on June 30, 2018, 03:23:27 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on June 30, 2018, 02:00:39 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on June 14, 2018, 02:41:16 PM
I would have voted for the Coupe to be the '68 Cobra rather then the Lone Star. ........
I had heard that Carroll didn't care for the car ............
Ever sat in or driven one of the original coupes? Cramped/hot/noisy/etc not something you'd expect to sell many of for street use.
CS bad mouthed the Coupe ("damn thing didn't work") when he was trying to (sue?) get Pete Brock from making any money on the replicas so he could again line his pockets for someone else's work.
. ALL Shelby's have AC...They're called windows... ;D
It's a Cobra with a roof. The criticism is redundent. Ever drive a "Shelby" without A/C? Very little difference. Want to talk about cramped? Ever sit in or drive a "40"?
My Pantera ain't exactly made for NBA or NFL players either. ;)
Everything was money for ole' Shel'. He didn't want to bring any of the Cobras back from Europe. They were just used race cars no one wanted.
Who exactly was the intended target for the Lone Star? Actor Michael Dunn?