I have only seen a couple of these in all my years documenting details . https://www.ebay.com/itm/427-Shelby-Cobra-intake-system/263755659305
Feel free to help with the work of posting pictures and copy. ;)
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Brand new in the original box and wrapper 427 Shelby Mustang intake system,two four barrel,intake with dual feed log .Never opened NOS very rare piece of Ford history,perfect for that Shelby restoration you NEED THISStill has original 1969 newspapers for packing included.Excellent condition-no disappointments-probably not another one in the nation.Feel free to contact me for more pictures or info
I thought those carbs used the early fuel valves with a nut, a projecting stud with a screwdriver slot?
That is NOT the color of the aluminum casting that I would expect from back then although it resembles the more recent Blue Thunder manifold color?
Is there a "Pookie swindle" going on here?
The most expensive item in that box is the box.
Quote from: shelbydoug on June 13, 2018, 06:20:55 PM
I thought those carbs used the early fuel valves with a nut, a projecting stud with a screwdriver slot?
That is NOT the color of the aluminum casting that I would expect from back then although it resembles the more recent Blue Thunder manifold color?
Is there a "Pookie swindle" going on here?
The most expensive item in that box is the box.
I respectfully disagree on the color of the aluminum. It is as I have seen them . I haven't seen many NOS sets like this but the ones I have looked like the picture. Blue thunder intake will not have a FOMOCO trademark. The float valves are as they should be based on historic photos IMO. There are other details that are different then current reissue carbs and accessories . There are some correct details that varied during production also. It looks legit to me.
I would have thought there would have been better packaging, this one must have "walked off".....
As the paper is from 69 I would be curious to know what the dates codes on the carbs are.
I sent the seller an email requesting pics of the carb tags and air horns so I could see what the date codes are. I'll update this post as soon as they respond.
...you mean Brian Glover didn't find this first???
Brian - you're slack'n!!! ;D
Ha, I saw it Ruben, but way too rich for my blood even if I had the need for such a rare item!
Quote from: Shelby_0022 on June 14, 2018, 12:17:55 AM
...you mean Brian Glover didn't find this first???
Brian - you're slack'n!!! ;D
Exactly what I was thinking :)
Quote from: shelbydoug on June 13, 2018, 06:20:55 PM
I thought those carbs used the early fuel valves with a nut, a projecting stud with a screwdriver slot?
That is NOT the color of the aluminum casting that I would expect from back then although it resembles the more recent Blue Thunder manifold color?
I would not find this coloration to be incorrect, as other components appear consistent with the claims made. The color of the aluminum, is based on the alloy itself of course, but influenced by the blasting media utilized post the casting process. The alloy & the blasting media utilized may remain constant, but the condition and purity of the media varies as the media is utilized in its' function of casting surface blending and general "clean-up"; this causing some minor variations in surface texture and color tint or shade presentation of the finished product.
Also for consideration, this unit appears to have been protected from other environmental contaminants, such fuels, oils, greases, dirt, water & just plain oxidation, all of which decades later will influence the appearance, if only gradually, but will change ones impression of what may be "correct".
And, as far as the "fuel valves", I am assuming you are referring to the needle & seat assy.? I believe you are referencing what is a two-part (stem w/ flat screwdriver slot & 9/16" wrenching brass hex-nut) product which is not of Holley production, but rather a "Jiffy" repair product (aka. after-market), and does seem to appear throughout the 1960's applications.
Scott.
BTW. Is that a Ford "SK" number reference on the box? :o Hey Randy, isn't this your department? ;D
Quote from: BGlover67 on June 14, 2018, 02:14:14 AM
Ha, I saw it Ruben, but way too rich for my blood even if I had the need for such a rare item!
Brian, why do we have a "need" for these things, they serve a "need" they serve a "want"
It's really just a museum piece now. To valuable and too expensive to put it into use.
I think the problem here is that although the NOS condition is rare, the actual parts aren't. IMHO the seller is going to have a very hard time commanding the money they are looking for. Don't get me wrong, a premium for sure but you would still have to break it apart and go through it.
This reminds me of an instance several years ago when a gun collector was exhibiting a Smith & Wesson Model 1955 (25-2) with wood presentation case, still in the sealed at the factory brown cardboard shipping box. Never opened! All one observed was a brown cardboard box, w/ brown paper tape sealing it shut, some printed nomenclature and exhibiting some weight in excess of that seen. And, the statement made was that the increased value implied would be lost if ever opened. :o
Just seemed to me, to be to much to pay, for the opportunity to stare at brown cardboard! ::)
Scott.
I sent 2 emails to the seller, one yesterday and one today, asking the date code on the carbs...No response. If the carb dates are later than what would have come on some of the last produced '67 GT500's, the carbs in the auction would be incorrect for a Thoroughbred or Concours restoration. The carbs would have the value of an aftermarket over the counter replacement set of carbs, no where near what the seller is asking for them. My guess is, the carb tags and dates are likely '68-'69 production (going by the photo of the 1969 dated newspaper) and not pictured for this reason. It's still a cool nos piece, but as someone stated "as a nice display item".
Didn't you guys notice the SK number on the box? Now before your minds begin to wander , it is likely the number was simply to denote the "complete assembly" . The late Don Sullivan (rip) pulled several SK numbers that detailed "induction kits" and what generic parts were used to make them.
I agree this all looks legit except the angle on the heater hose fitting. I assume it is still loosely installed. Carb dates would be interesting .
Randy
The seller got back to me and only gave the info off the carb tags, "the rear carb with choke C3AFBK A 7CD and the front carb no choke is C3AFBJ A 7CC". He stated he did not want to give info off the carb air horns because he doesn't want to disturb the packaging.
Quote from: George Schalk on June 15, 2018, 01:09:27 PM
The seller got back to me and only gave the info off the carb tags, "the rear carb with choke C3AFBK A 7CD and the front carb no choke is C3AFBJ A 7CC". He stated he did not want to give info off the carb air horns because he doesn't want to disturb the packaging.
He better disturb the packaging if he wants the premium price ;)
Quote from: George Schalk on June 15, 2018, 01:09:27 PM
The seller got back to me and only gave the info off the carb tags, "the rear carb with choke C3AFBK A 7CD and the front carb no choke is C3AFBJ A 7CC". He stated he did not want to give info off the carb air horns because he doesn't want to disturb the packaging.
Wow ,
If you have a car built in April , May , June , that would be an awesome addition. A Perkins territory item ! LOL Thanks for asking the dates George.
Randy
Quote from: gt350hr on June 15, 2018, 05:04:19 PM
Quote from: George Schalk on June 15, 2018, 01:09:27 PM
The seller got back to me and only gave the info off the carb tags, "the rear carb with choke C3AFBK A 7CD and the front carb no choke is C3AFBJ A 7CC". He stated he did not want to give info off the carb air horns because he doesn't want to disturb the packaging.
Wow ,
If you have a car built in April , May , June , that would be an awesome addition. A Perkins territory item ! LOL Thanks for asking the dates George.
Randy
My car qualifies. The price disqualifies it. If it is worth that kind of money, it is MUCH to valuable to unpack and use and now belongs only in a museum where it can be displayed as THE documentation of what the original induction system was.
Quote from: shelbydoug on June 15, 2018, 09:12:57 PM
My car qualifies. The price disqualifies it. If it is worth that kind of money, it is MUCH to valuable to unpack and use and now belongs only in a museum where it can be displayed as THE documentation of what the original induction system was.
Exactly