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Title: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: BGlover67 on July 12, 2018, 12:54:07 PM
I have a friend who is interested.  Does anyone know the Shelby number, or have any info about it?  Comments welcome.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/PA0818-330531/1967-shelby-gt500-fastback/

LOT S135  HARRISBURG 2018  AUG 2-4
1967 SHELBY GT500 FASTBACK
428 CI, 4-Speed STAR

HIGHLIGHTS
Original rebuilt matching numbers 428 CI engine with original heads
Original redone 4-speed transmission, vin stamp present and factory ID tag
Rebuilt shifter
29,398 documented miles
Factory Nightmist Blue with Black Deluxe interior with original comfort weave seat and upholstery
Factory inboard lights and functional scoops
Marti report and copies of original Shelby paperwork
Rotisserie restored to concours condition by a marque expert
Rare thermactor restored using original and NOS parts
The body is highly original with inner fenders with factory ford vin stamps present on both sides as well as the Shelby factory Stamp number
The original Shelby tag is still on the inner fender
Original floors and doors
Restored trim, original wood wheel, seat belts and original gauges
Rebuilt original fuel pump, alternator, intake, BJ-BK carburetors, radiator, engine pulleys and brackets, fan, air cleaner, valve covers, battery tray, fan motor and power brake booster
The correct SPEC rear redone with new gears, bearings
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: 2112 on July 12, 2018, 01:11:15 PM
For the Experts, does the Thermactor System look close to correct?
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: Bob Gaines on July 12, 2018, 01:31:01 PM
Quote from: 2112 on July 12, 2018, 01:11:15 PM
For the Experts, does the Thermactor System look close to correct?
It does meet your close to correct criteria IMO. There are other original assemblyline detailing attempts that are incorrect but you probably saw all of those .
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: Richstang on July 12, 2018, 02:54:53 PM
The listing notes a Marti Report and original Shelby Paperwork.
You could call them or send an email to ask for copies in advance of the auction.

I tried to figure out the Shelby ID, but there's not enough info in the ad.
It can be narrowed down to about 51 Nightmist Blue cars with a 4spd, Thermactor, & black interior.
Somewhere in the VIN range of #0450 - #1350 by those options, assuming all are factory installed.

If you get info from please let us know.
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: gt350cs on July 12, 2018, 03:30:47 PM
Rich,

Too bad that the wheels look to be aftermarket. If the wheels were original you could narrow it down to less than a dozen cars.

Dennis
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: CharlesTurner on July 12, 2018, 03:32:06 PM
From the auction listing:

"Rotisserie restored to concours condition by a marque expert"


:-X  :-X
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: BGlover67 on July 12, 2018, 03:58:13 PM
Quote from: caspian65 on July 12, 2018, 03:32:06 PM
From the auction listing:

"Rotisserie restored to concours condition by a marque expert"


:-X  :-X

Rotisserie restored to concours condition by a marque expert Who likes LeMans stripes. (I'm not dissing stripes, I swear.  But 'concours', 'expert' and 'stripes' don't usually go together)
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: KR Convertible on July 12, 2018, 04:36:33 PM
I tried to get info out of Mecum a few years ago.  Never received a call back or email.  Where's the damned "head-knock" emoji when you need it!! Maybe things have changed.  Good luck.
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: Hockeylife on July 12, 2018, 06:00:09 PM
I'm new here, hoping to learn after a number of old Mustangs. Finally, need to fulfill a Shelby itch I've had for 40 plus years. Anyway, I did see the Mecum listing and emailed for the Shelby vin. I did receive an answer - 67402F2A01284.
So, I'm curious, what is wrong to the trained eye of this group? Thanks
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: acman63 on July 12, 2018, 06:19:04 PM
Quote from: Hockeylife on July 12, 2018, 06:00:09 PM
I'm new here, hoping to learn after a number of old Mustangs. Finally, need to fulfill a Shelby itch I've had for 40 plus years. Anyway, I did see the Mecum listing and emailed for the Shelby vin. I did receive an answer - 67402F2A01284.
So, I'm curious, what is wrong to the trained eye of this group? Thanks

now that you have this answer,  also ask who the restorer is
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: capecodmustang.com on July 12, 2018, 07:00:18 PM
I use to own this car....

bret@capecodmustang.com



Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: 2112 on July 12, 2018, 07:14:16 PM
Quote from: acman63 on July 12, 2018, 06:19:04 PM
  also ask who the restorer is

+1
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: capecodmustang.com on July 12, 2018, 07:25:26 PM
I know who I sold the car too...

....and I know who restored it...

Bret
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: Richstang on July 12, 2018, 07:59:25 PM
Bret like to tease us...


Here's a before photo

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=eGC7z%2fXi&id=25ED14946DCBE8BBDB075AD3F94D4124F29B7177&thid=OIP.eGC7z_Xih6kDcfRP-2j24AHaFj&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fassets.hemmings.com%2fuimage%2f57731766-500-0.jpg&exph=375&expw=500&q=Hemmings+1967+shelby+GT500&simid=608010953149974538&selectedIndex=27&ajaxhist=0
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: capecodmustang.com on July 12, 2018, 08:08:26 PM
I do remember this car for a particular reason.
It was originally shipped to Massachusetts and had a thermactor system.

Funny story...
About three months after I purchased this automobile a gentleman called me about a 66 GT 350 he was selling.
It was a project and he gave me directions to his location.
It was 4 houses away from # 1284...
And the 66 was a carryover...

I had driven by it 2-3 times and it was under a car cover in the guy's yard...
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: Shelby_r_b on July 12, 2018, 08:39:46 PM
Quote from: capecodmustang.com on July 12, 2018, 08:08:26 PM
I do remember this car for a particular reason.
It was originally shipped to Massachusetts and had a thermactor system.

Funny story...
About three months after I purchased this automobile a gentleman called me about a 66 GT 350 he was selling.
It was a project and he gave me directions to his location.
It was 4 houses away from # 1284...
And the 66 was a carryover...

I had driven by it 2-3 times and it was under a car cover in the guy's yard...

Seriously, who would have thought?!?
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: JD on July 12, 2018, 11:21:37 PM
Quote from: capecodmustang.com on July 12, 2018, 07:25:26 PM
I know who I sold the car too...

....and I know who restored it...

Bret

was it Emery?
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: capecodmustang.com on July 13, 2018, 06:37:38 AM
It was not...
I sold it to a gentleman in PA who restored it for his customer.....
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: BGlover67 on July 13, 2018, 09:35:30 AM
Is that pic really the car from when you owned it?  If so, quite a nice restoration considering.
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: capecodmustang.com on July 13, 2018, 09:57:29 AM
It was sitting in a gentleman's garage in that condition for 30-40 years....
And there was carryover 4 houses away and the owners didn't know each other...


I think the restoration is very nice..
I should point out that some restorers are following what the owner wants personally or what their budget is.





Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: Bob Gaines on July 13, 2018, 10:14:26 AM
Quote from: capecodmustang.com on July 13, 2018, 09:57:29 AM
It was sitting in a gentleman's garage in that condition for 30-40 years....
And there was carryover 4 houses away and the owners didn't know each other...


I think the restoration is very nice..
I should point out that some restorers are following what the owner wants personally or what their budget is.
Bret, I agree the restoration is very nice. With that said on this car given the detailing mistakes seen that don't cost anymore to get right as they do wrong budget would not be a factor. By your statement you are implying that all of the Shelby 101 detailing mistakes the restorer made in this case he did on purpose because the customer wanted them that way? Or were talking about cars in general?
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: capecodmustang.com on July 13, 2018, 10:47:52 AM
I can't speak for this restorer or his relationship with the owner.

However, many common mistakes are made by a restorer because he simply didn't know.
Most are honest and trivial.
Example:  Different colors on different parts under the hood depending when the car was built.
Colors of PS parts etc etc..
Things like that!

But also some restorers are pressed by the owners to watch budgets and time-lines.
Example:  Do you want original 10 spokes or reproduction..?
To save money some owners will settle on reproduction.

Bretski


Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: CharlesTurner on July 13, 2018, 12:59:00 PM
Sometimes trivial mistakes will bring up the question of whether or not other shortcuts were made or what might linger underneath paint.

Totally reasonable for shops to restore cars based on budgets and that sort of thing, it just comes with a bit of scrutiny when they eventually come up for sale.
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: Hockeylife on July 13, 2018, 04:33:24 PM
So what do you guys think this car, or a similar,  will sell for in today's market?
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: Hockeylife on July 16, 2018, 08:14:34 PM
What no thoughts/opinions on pricing? Do tell!
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: Richstang on July 16, 2018, 08:38:21 PM
Tough to guess, since it's in Harrisburg it should not have stupid money thrown at it like in Scottsdale or Vegas.

The added lemans stripes and large letter Goodyears' definitely will play up to the auction crowd.
I'd throw out a guess, but suspect it would offend some people.

Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: 2112 on July 16, 2018, 08:41:28 PM
Based on what was mentioned, I would want to see pictures/documentation how rust etc was handled during restoration.

I am not a expert, I think it is a great looking car. If every thing restored chassis/body wise to the highest standard, I would guess at least a buck fifty.
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: Richstang on July 16, 2018, 09:00:59 PM
Besides the lemans stripes, the red shocks and green battery top are signs the car was not restored to factory standards. That's just the obvious stuff, but will keep the purists away. It's a clean show car, just not SAAC / MCA standards. 150 or maybe a bit more was my guess too, it depends on when it crosses the block. Sat night prime time will help.
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: 2112 on July 16, 2018, 09:07:13 PM
If you need 100% assemblyline correct, parts can be swapped.

LeMans stripes? That's a $20,000+ correction in my neck of the woods.  :P
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: Hockeylife on July 16, 2018, 11:39:07 PM
There was, what seemed to me, a nice red 67 GT500 recently on eBay which did not meet reserve at $133k. So, in my limited knowledge, seems $150k could be ballpark. Though there have been recent auctions, talked about in other threads, suggest could be high. Who knows, worth what 1 will pay.
Sad to hear someone could be reluctant to voice an opinion for fear of offending others.
Another question I have as a newbie, is I plan to attend my first convention in a couple weeks, will there be cars there for sale? And will they all be to the highest standards? What prices will they likely command? Thanks
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: Richstang on July 17, 2018, 12:43:06 AM
Quote from: Hockeylife on July 16, 2018, 11:39:07 PM
There was, what seemed to me, a nice red 67 GT500 recently on eBay which did not meet reserve at $133k. So, in my limited knowledge, seems $150k could be ballpark. Though there have been recent auctions, talked about in other threads, suggest could be high. Who knows, worth what 1 will pay.
Sad to hear someone could be reluctant to voice an opinion for fear of offending others.
Another question I have as a newbie, is I plan to attend my first convention in a couple weeks, will there be cars there for sale? And will they all be to the highest standards? What prices will they likely command? Thanks

Not Sad...I didn't want to offend anyone who may own a '67 GT500 in similar condition. I was not fearful of repercussions. The market value for that area of the country is what it is, we will see what it's bid too soon enough.

You won't see any cars for sale in the concours judging area. These are expected to be the best of the best. Take lots of pictures.

The popular vote gathering should have very nice cars in all types of conditions, something for everyone. Maybe even a few of the concours cars from the day before.

There may be a car or two in the vendor area for sale. You're guess would be as good as mine on the type/ condition/ etc.
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: Shelby_r_b on August 05, 2018, 12:04:48 AM
Thanks to 2112 for pointing me back to this thread.  ;)

WOW! That was some serious coin for this car: $217,250 with buyer's premium.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/PA0818-330531/1967-shelby-gt500-fastback/

Truly, would've NEVER guessed it would sell for that much. We'll see what the DVR shows, as 2 or more people must've really wanted it.
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: BGlover67 on August 05, 2018, 05:13:59 AM
Congrats for the seller.  ;D
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: Wedgeman on August 05, 2018, 03:52:51 PM
anyone know the VIN # yet??
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: papa scoops on August 05, 2018, 04:23:48 PM
why would you need to restore a car with that low mileage unless it was a pile of dog stuff? phred
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: capecodmustang.com on August 05, 2018, 04:31:27 PM
The car was hit in the 1970's and was sitting for years.....
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: Richstang on August 05, 2018, 05:50:10 PM
Quote from: Wedgeman on August 05, 2018, 03:52:51 PM
anyone know the VIN # yet??

see reply #8

#1284
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: Wedgeman on August 06, 2018, 01:45:06 AM
Thanks Rich !!!..... 8)
Title: Re: 1967 Shelby GT500 Mecum
Post by: Grumpy on September 10, 2018, 07:17:34 PM
Quote from: capecodmustang.com on August 05, 2018, 04:31:27 PM
The car was hit in the 1970's and was sitting for years.....

I had lunch today with my old buddy who was also into the Shelbys like me back in the day. I brought up the cars we both had .. 67 GT500's in nightmist blue. Then he mentioned your name. You got it from Billy.. Damm if these cars could talk !!! Damm younger guy knew where are old cars are living now.. My brain isn't as good.  I just saw Billy this summer.