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Title: SAAC 44
Post by: Bigfoot on August 08, 2018, 09:22:29 PM
How about a show on the East Coast.....
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Ldouble619 on August 08, 2018, 09:33:02 PM
I say it ever year and I'll say it again...  Sebring!!
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Bill on August 08, 2018, 10:01:49 PM
How about a show on the East Coast.....

Where is SAAC 50 for $100 Alex  ;)
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on August 08, 2018, 10:26:14 PM
How about a show on the East Coast.....

Where is SAAC 50 for $100 Alex  ;)
Vegas
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: 67gt500 on August 08, 2018, 10:30:45 PM
Pittsburgh ;)
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Don Johnston on August 09, 2018, 12:43:23 AM
Announced at dinner: Beaver Run Raceway.  Hotels in Pittsburgh.  Should be in early to mid-July.  Details pending.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Coralsnake on August 09, 2018, 08:29:09 AM
Well, thanks for ruining the annual, “it should be close to my house” thread LOL

 ;D
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: kjspeed on August 09, 2018, 09:21:01 AM
I say it ever year and I'll say it again...  Sebring!!
Yes, closer to my house! I have noticed that the farthest south it's ever been is Atlanta. Do you guys have a problem coming to Florida in July/August when the temperature and humidity are both pegged out? And there is the potential for a hurricane? Where is your sense of adventure?  8)
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: QuickSilverShelby on August 09, 2018, 09:36:27 AM
How about a show on the East Coast.....

Where is SAAC 50 for $100 Alex  ;)
Vegas
I agree.  Vegas.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: tesgt350 on August 09, 2018, 09:47:02 AM
How about a show on the East Coast.....

They do a lot of Shows on the East Coast, the problem is, they are always up NORTH.  Do one at the Barber Motorsports Track in Birmingham Alabama.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: kingchief on August 09, 2018, 11:33:38 AM
I am SOOOO sad that the next one is no where near Florida!!!  :'(

All of us here will be GONE or unable to attend by the time one gets even close to here!!!  SOOOOO SAD!!!  :'( :'( :'(

Steve
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Richstang on August 09, 2018, 03:56:05 PM
I was thinking it would be somewhere in the south east next. Oh well, maybe 2020
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: shelbydoug on August 09, 2018, 04:38:47 PM
I guess I'm a little spoiled. I'm kinda' equidistant from Lime Rock, Pocono, Watkins Glenn.
Millville is a little further. Charlotte and Virginia are about 9 hours as is Pittsburg.

I wouldn't mind Lime Rock again. Crossing bridges to get out of this area with your Shelby is not only nerve racking, but dangerous too.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Shelby_r_b on August 09, 2018, 05:43:30 PM
How about a show on the East Coast.....

Where is SAAC 50 for $100 Alex  ;)
Vegas
I agree.  Vegas.

Yes, PLEASE Vegas!
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Don Johnston on August 09, 2018, 09:13:24 PM
LV gets my vote too but not fun in the triple degree mid to late summer. 8)
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Shelby_r_b on August 10, 2018, 12:08:33 AM
LV gets my vote too but not fun in the triple degree mid to late summer. 8)

...really great point.  I hadn't thought about that.

Maybe we could have it outside the summer months in Vegas?  ;D
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: J_Speegle on August 10, 2018, 12:45:36 AM
Maybe we could have it outside the summer months in Vegas?  ;D

Something to do in the dead of winter. Would be a great draw for those snowed in though it might cut down on the number of cars nad the location is not very central.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Don Johnston on August 10, 2018, 01:39:10 AM
Maybe we could have it outside the summer months in Vegas?  ;D

Something to do in the dead of winter. Would be a great draw for those snowed in though it might cut down on the number of cars nad the location is not very central.

The "SAAC Does Vegas" events were done initially over New Years in Las Vegas when the Vegas Raceway was new and a bit easier to secure with the Shelby American shop assistance.  Ah, the smokey lobby and long line buffets at the Imperial Palace memories.  Later the Orleans, Gold Coast, Cannery and other hotels were the anchor locations and the dates moved later into February.  But it was still winter cold.  I remember it hailed at the first mini-convention.  The Shelbys and Fox body Mustangs came in off the track, but the Cobra guys styed out saying that this is the way if=t was back in the old days.  You ran unless there was lightning.

Late May or early June would be okay in LV.  8)
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Bigfoot on August 10, 2018, 04:56:40 PM
Beaver Run was fun last time......
We should use the same host hotel.  It was far from the track but had great parking for all the cars.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: roddster on August 11, 2018, 07:45:06 AM
  Just choose some local Sonic.......
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on August 11, 2018, 10:14:50 PM
The "SAAC Does Vegas" events were done initially over New Years in Las Vegas
CS thought there was big money to be made hosting that event so he basically told SAAC to take a hike and he would take it over. It's become the annual Shelby Bash - for what $500-700? The guy that owned Ceasers bankrolled the speedway and it was run by his son-in-law who CS was friends with. CS borrowed a bunch of money from them the open the facility at the track - using his Coupe as collateral. Things went south when CS hadn't made payments and Ceasers owners daughter dumped the husband. He was out of work and CS had to scramble for a bunch of cash.
There aren't enough people/cars to rent LV Speedway for a "club" event. CS uses the track south of LV that offers houses by the track.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Don Johnston on August 11, 2018, 10:42:58 PM
Very true.  After the SA shop and Foundation(?) took it over, we stopped attending.  Prelude to coming battles was evident.  But we did enjoy being with SAAC friends and seeing the SA shop, the car shows and on track events.  After Team Shelby was formed, the Bash came about to promote the new factory toys.  They no longer use the LV Speedway but head over to Spring Mountain Raceway.

But LV at the right time, may still be a fairly good venue.  The casinos love the revenue from the members who have their own "system".   8)
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Cobrask8 on August 12, 2018, 08:31:17 AM
For everyone in the north East looking for a smaller and MUCH more fun Shelby event:

https://www.lvpasaac.com/

GREAT fun and informal event, lots to do! MOre fun stuff being added.

Host hotel is sold out.

Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on August 12, 2018, 08:50:31 AM
Great event with great people
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: 69gt500 on August 12, 2018, 12:51:01 PM
A return to VIR would be nice.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: CSX 4133 on August 12, 2018, 09:29:04 PM

So........ any hint as to next years location from the rumor mill?      ;D
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Coralsnake on August 12, 2018, 09:39:40 PM
Beaver Run in PA. It was announced at the convention
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: BGlover67 on August 12, 2018, 09:46:29 PM
Is that the earliest it has ever been announced?  Takes the whole fun away from the predictable 'Where will the next SAAC event be held' thread.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 12, 2018, 10:24:47 PM
Is that the earliest it has ever been announced?  Takes the whole fun away from the predictable 'Where will the next SAAC event be held' thread.
It used to be normal in the past for the next convention site and date to be announced at the banquet.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: CSX 4133 on August 13, 2018, 06:10:43 AM

Great! Time to start arranging my schedule so I can attend.   :)
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: shelbydoug on August 13, 2018, 07:52:56 AM

Great! Time to start arranging my schedule so I can attend.   :)

Another one I can't make.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on August 13, 2018, 12:23:59 PM
The Pittsburg Grand Prix runs July 12- 21. Maybe we can connect up with some of their events
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: gjz30075 on August 15, 2018, 10:56:25 AM
Were the dates announced, too?
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: 69 GT350 Vert on August 16, 2018, 05:36:07 PM
Announced at dinner: Beaver Run Raceway.  Hotels in Pittsburgh.  Should be in early to mid-July.  Details pending.

The BeaveRun race track changed their name to PittRace.  Here is the website.  http://pittrace.com/

I'm pretty sure the track has not changed.  I liked the old name and still have the plaque with the scared beaver sticking out of the Cobra from the last time it was there. 

Being from Pittsburgh, I will be there with my 69 GT350 convertible. 

I know one of the racing instructors at PittRace.  If anyone needs me to contact him to get track information or anything, let me know.  He is at the track daily. 

Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: acman63 on August 16, 2018, 05:39:32 PM

Great! Time to start arranging my schedule so I can attend.   :)

Another one I can't make.

why cant you make it>  not that far for you
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Bigfoot on August 16, 2018, 09:08:09 PM
Same Hotel as last time?
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Richstang on August 16, 2018, 09:15:25 PM
Announced at dinner: Beaver Run Raceway.  Hotels in Pittsburgh.  Should be in early to mid-July.  Details pending.

The BeaveRun race track changed their name to PittRace.  Here is the website.  http://pittrace.com/

I'm pretty sure the track has not changed.  I liked the old name and still have the plaque with the scared beaver sticking out of the Cobra from the last time it was there. 

Being from Pittsburgh, I will be there with my 69 GT350 convertible. 

I know one of the racing instructors at PittRace.  If anyone needs me to contact him to get track information or anything, let me know.  He is at the track daily.

Since your from the area...is there any other must see places while we're in the area? (Shelby / Mustang related)
If I can get out there, it would be my first stay on that side of the state. Might as well make more out of it if possible.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: shelbydoug on August 17, 2018, 03:26:59 PM

Great! Time to start arranging my schedule so I can attend.   :)

Another one I can't make.

why cant you make it>  not that far for you

9 hours. Over the limit for me. I need to take naps every 2.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Don Johnston on August 17, 2018, 05:51:59 PM
America has motels and hotels along every route. 
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: shelbydoug on August 17, 2018, 09:33:22 PM
America has motels and hotels along every route.

Nah, that's too much like Marco Polo leading an expedition?
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Don Johnston on August 17, 2018, 10:07:58 PM
Think of it as a mini-Gumball for older drivers.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: shelbydoug on August 18, 2018, 07:34:50 AM
Think of it as a mini-Gumball for older drivers.

What about older cars?
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: 69 GT350 Vert on August 18, 2018, 10:42:02 AM
Announced at dinner: Beaver Run Raceway.  Hotels in Pittsburgh.  Should be in early to mid-July.  Details pending.

The BeaveRun race track changed their name to PittRace.  Here is the website.  http://pittrace.com/

I'm pretty sure the track has not changed.  I liked the old name and still have the plaque with the scared beaver sticking out of the Cobra from the last time it was there. 

Being from Pittsburgh, I will be there with my 69 GT350 convertible. 

I know one of the racing instructors at PittRace.  If anyone needs me to contact him to get track information or anything, let me know.  He is at the track daily.

Since your from the area...is there any other must see places while we're in the area? (Shelby / Mustang related)
If I can get out there, it would be my first stay on that side of the state. Might as well make more out of it if possible.

Other than a few private collections I have seen, there really isn't any noteworthy shelby/mustang places to see here in Pittsburgh that I am aware of. 
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Richstang on August 18, 2018, 10:51:30 AM
Announced at dinner: Beaver Run Raceway.  Hotels in Pittsburgh.  Should be in early to mid-July.  Details pending.

The BeaveRun race track changed their name to PittRace.  Here is the website.  http://pittrace.com/

I'm pretty sure the track has not changed.  I liked the old name and still have the plaque with the scared beaver sticking out of the Cobra from the last time it was there. 

Being from Pittsburgh, I will be there with my 69 GT350 convertible. 

I know one of the racing instructors at PittRace.  If anyone needs me to contact him to get track information or anything, let me know.  He is at the track daily.

Since your from the area...is there any other must see places while we're in the area? (Shelby / Mustang related)
If I can get out there, it would be my first stay on that side of the state. Might as well make more out of it if possible.

Other than a few private collections I have seen, there really isn't any noteworthy shelby/mustang places to see here in Pittsburgh that I am aware of.

Thanks for the added info. I guess we'll have to get our fill at the convention. I'll have to take a look at any tourist traps / historical places too.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: shelbydoug on August 18, 2018, 12:35:43 PM
There's a neat "adult" store along "80" somewhere. Kopec and Pardee stopped there and the hostess was nude.

Someone should put that one on the list. Wait. That was 35 years ago. She's probably all wrinkled and sagging. Nix that.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: gt350man on September 10, 2018, 11:24:10 PM
Pitt Race has actually changed a lot since SAAC 34.  The owners of VIR have since purchased the track and invested a lot of money.  It is now approx 3 miles long, which is twice as long as it was for the last convention.  The Pittsburgh Vintage Grand will be going on at Pitt Race on July 13-14 for the big bore cars (i.e. Shelbys) culminating in the vintage races on July 20-21 at Schenley Park in downtown Pittsburgh near Pitt and Carnegie Mellon Universities.  It's there were over 1,000 volunteers put on the only vintage race in the country still run on city streets and where you will see 3,000 cars in the show on Saturday all over the golf course and 300,000 spectators.  A must see event.  Hope to see you there!
Jason
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on September 11, 2018, 08:39:45 AM
There's a neat "adult" store along "80" somewhere. Kopec and Pardee stopped there and the hostess was nude.

Someone should put that one on the list. Wait. That was 35 years ago. She's probably all wrinkled and sagging. Nix that.

Was it this place
https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/15326
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Cobrask8 on September 11, 2018, 09:27:19 AM
After missing SAAC-43 due to a family event planned much further in advance, I'm looking forwards to returning to Pittracce (BR) and SAAC-44 next year. I've driven the track, and it's alot of fun, many elements of other tracks, including Monticello and others.

Planning on being back in tech, car show, and making the event happen. Will have my noisy FFR out on track too!

Waiting to see how the details unfold.

Holiday Inn again as the host hotel?
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: 8T03S1425 on September 11, 2018, 01:25:11 PM
There's a neat "adult" store along "80" somewhere. Kopec and Pardee stopped there and the hostess was nude.

Someone should put that one on the list. Wait. That was 35 years ago. She's probably all wrinkled and sagging. Nix that.

Was it this place
https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/15326

Not to be confused with this Roadside America; a more family friendly roadside stop.

https://www.roadsideamerica.co/ (https://www.roadsideamerica.co/)

Steve
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Bigfoot on September 11, 2018, 01:38:16 PM
Host hotel announced?
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Cobrask8 on September 11, 2018, 01:55:04 PM
Host hotel announced?

No, just remembering the one SAAC used last time
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on September 11, 2018, 02:25:24 PM
There's a neat "adult" store along "80" somewhere. Kopec and Pardee stopped there and the hostess was nude.

Someone should put that one on the list. Wait. That was 35 years ago. She's probably all wrinkled and sagging. Nix that.

Was it this place
https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/15326



Not to be confused with this Roadside America; a more family friendly roadside stop.

https://www.roadsideamerica.co/ (https://www.roadsideamerica.co/)

Steve

Your's has the world's Best Advertising line

"Be Prepared To See More Than You Expect"
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Bigfoot on September 11, 2018, 03:33:39 PM
Host hotel announced?

No, just remembering the one SAAC used last time

Which was pretty good.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: 1109RWHP on October 07, 2018, 07:55:32 PM
Does anyone know the dates?
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on November 05, 2018, 04:25:19 PM
Any more info on this yet, I’m already getting ready for the drive, it’s only about 4-5 hours
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: gjz30075 on November 05, 2018, 07:31:09 PM
Almost time to put up a 'SAAC44' sub category under 'Events'.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: computerworks on November 05, 2018, 08:26:57 PM
Almost time to put up a 'SAAC44' sub category under 'Events'.

By golly...you are right....
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Don Johnston on November 10, 2018, 12:37:51 PM
And now we know that it will be July 11-13, 2019
From the email announcement:

Announcing...

SAAC-44 - July 11-13, 2019, Pittsburgh International Race Complex

We are excited to be the Featured Marque of the gala Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix.

Much more info about this event will be published over the next few months...

...you can learn about this great event here---> https://www.pvgp.org/

The SAAC-44 web site will be open by the end of November.

Online Registration should be ready by end of December.

Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: cj750 on November 19, 2018, 02:56:28 PM
I don't know if this is the place to ask this question, but is it written in the Club's bylaws that shows have to be on the coasts? There hasn't been a National in the middle of the country since, well, ever. No, Utah, Wisconsin and Indianapolis are not in the middle of the country. I'm talking about places like Dallas, Oklahoma City, Little Rock, Kansas City, Omaha. Even St. Louis or Denver would be more central than any place that's hosted a show so far.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: rkm on November 19, 2018, 04:35:09 PM
There are cities there?
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: roddster on November 19, 2018, 04:57:05 PM
  Ah, Mid-Ohio and Elkhart Lake Wisconsin, and Indianapolis IN not middle enough?
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: JD on November 19, 2018, 05:01:56 PM
  Ah, Mid-Ohio and Elkhart Lake Wisconsin, and Indianapolis IN not middle enough?

There was a SAAC in Utah at Miller Motorsports facility, don't remember the year but I remember the temperature!!

(Western PA is not exactly the coast)
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: cj750 on November 19, 2018, 05:15:16 PM
  Ah, Mid-Ohio and Elkhart Lake Wisconsin, and Indianapolis IN not middle enough?

Well, no. Of those, the most westerly would be Elkhart Lake. Which is still geographically closer to New York City than Oklahoma City. Mid-Ohio and Indianapolis aren't remotely close to the middle of the country.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: cj750 on November 19, 2018, 05:41:30 PM


There was a SAAC in Utah at Miller Motorsports facility, don't remember the year but I remember the temperature!!

(Western PA is not exactly the coast)

Not sure of the point. Tooele, Utah is a lot closer to San Francisco and L.A. than anywhere on the plains. And while western PA may not be exactly the coast, the coast is a mere 5 or 6 hour drive away. Pittsburgh is 16+ hours from, say, Wichita KS. So again, not remotely central.

Anyhow, my purpose is not to quibble about what is and isn't considered "east coast" or "west coast." My point is that every single SAAC convention has been somewhere in the eastern or western third of the country, and the occasional Ohio, Michigan or Utah event excepted, overwhelmingly in coastal states. Meanwhile, the entire middle third of the country has never had a SAAC convention. Not a single centrally located event in 44 years. That doesn't seem random, that seems like some sort of policy. So my real question is who sets it, and how does it get changed?
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: JD on November 19, 2018, 07:04:11 PM
The SAAC board members set it as far as I understand and if I remember correctly the majority of SAAC members are east of the Mississippi.  West coast events seem to have less attendance that eastern events.

There was a survey done that outlined your question but it was lost in the melt-down.  Perhaps they can repost the Cliff notes.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: shelbydoug on November 19, 2018, 07:06:02 PM
I don't know if this is the place to ask this question, but is it written in the Club's bylaws that shows have to be on the coasts? There hasn't been a National in the middle of the country since, well, ever. No, Utah, Wisconsin and Indianapolis are not in the middle of the country. I'm talking about places like Dallas, Oklahoma City, Little Rock, Kansas City, Omaha. Even St. Louis or Denver would be more central than any place that's hosted a show so far.

There is no convention location in the by-laws. There is a formula used to determine the likeliness of attendance according to location.

There WAS a convention in Wichita, Kansas. That's pretty much middle/middle.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: cj750 on November 19, 2018, 08:13:20 PM
Thanks for the replies. I missed the previous discussion. So yes, if anyone has it archived, or the Cliff Notes as you say, I'd be most interested. I'm sure it'd go a long way towards answering my questions.

Wichita Nationals? It's not on SAAC's list of conventions 1-39:
 http://saac.com/images/conventions/CONVENTION-1.pdf

and the more recent ones were:
40- Pocono
41- Mid Ohio
42- Indianapolis
43-Sonoma

So when exactly was the SAAC convention in Wichita?
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: shelbydoug on November 19, 2018, 08:58:59 PM
I think Witchita was in '75? Must have been a SOA event? The feeling was that it wasn't considered successful and that was because of the location being too far from any of the large portions of the membership. The reason I mentioned it is, it may be the example location to a large portion of the membership and of where the driving time for a large portion of the membership idea came from?


Rick could explain it better but his "studies/surveys" showed that membership was concentrated in certain areas. It also showed that people were only willing to drive a certain amount of hours to get there.

The timing as to what time of the year was also a consideration. People wanted it during their "vacation" time. That largely was in the summer time when school was out.

Anyone can (and they do) put in requests to SAAC HQ for a location for consideration. Not everywhere the cars were raced would be a serious consideration now. Some are too remote according to the formula. Sebring, Daytonna would be two examples of that.

I'm not sure at which point, having it at a race track became mandatory?



The largest ones I attended were both at Dearborn, and the first two used Ford's test grounds at Utica which is not quite a track.

I think that the driving maximum  is about 9 hours. Some tracks that have been right on the cusp have had very successful conventions. Charlotte comes to mind and more recently Millville and VIR.
Beaver Run is kind of in the "middle of SAAC nowhere" and doesn't fit the formula so there is hope that "you could" persuade the powers that be to take a look? I personally would have gone back to Pocono instead but that's just me.


I've been to 1/3 of the conventions. So I fit into the formula but now 9 hours of driving is over the limit for me. Considerably. Flying in is of little interest to me at this point.

I suppose it would be accurate to say that no matter where it is located, 2/3 of the membership is disappointed?


I can save you time and disappointment by telling you some places it won't ever be held. Canada. Mexico. Puerto Rico. Hawaii. Alaska. Europe. Africa. Australia.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Don Johnston on November 19, 2018, 09:41:48 PM
Yeah, no Hawaii conventions.  We have to travel 2500 miles just to get to the left coast and then pile on more miles, day and expenses to get to the conventions.  But we know the reallities as explained by Rick and the other planners as to participation, venue availability and costs.  So we go where the action is when as often as we can. As many of you know, we are nuts!   It would be nice to have on at Kansas Speedway if ever possible.  8)
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: cj750 on November 19, 2018, 10:01:10 PM
I appreciate the response.
Looking over the list of past events, there's never been one within 9 hours of my location, although Indy isn't much further than that. Pittsburgh, at 14.5 hours, will actually be one of the closer ones. Most have been 18-20 hours, or more.

Yes, Kansas Speedway would be great. Less than 5 hours.  Practically in my backyard.

It really would be nice if the club could do even one centrally located event before the 50th anniversary.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on November 19, 2018, 10:52:13 PM
How about a show on the East Coast.....

Where is SAAC 50 for $100 Alex  ;)
Parking lot at the rest home for us old timers.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Don Johnston on November 20, 2018, 12:08:53 AM
Shelby
American
Aging
Center

 ;)
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: shelbydoug on November 20, 2018, 06:43:00 AM
Well, there does seem to be a change in the selection process so maybe aging is part of the equation?
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: terlingua11 on November 20, 2018, 09:20:53 AM
What about the Mid America Ford and Shelby Nationals.

http://musclecarevents.org

That's pretty much right where you want a SAAC event isn't it. I have no prior knowledge, just a guess, that SAAC has never gone this central as this event appears to be right in the same wheelhouse. I have always wanted to put this on my bucket list as it looks to be like a very cool event. I would think if this was going on in June it would certainly compete with SAAC. I could see why SAAC doesn't go to this neck of the woods and try to compete for everyones $$ on a relatively similar event.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: roddster on November 20, 2018, 09:44:23 AM
  How about, instead of not being able to read the process from the old, now gone Forum 1, you might want to look up this information from The Shelby American that comes quarterly.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: CharlesTurner on November 20, 2018, 09:51:24 AM
I appreciate the response.
Looking over the list of past events, there's never been one within 9 hours of my location, although Indy isn't much further than that. Pittsburgh, at 14.5 hours, will actually be one of the closer ones. Most have been 18-20 hours, or more.

Yes, Kansas Speedway would be great. Less than 5 hours.  Practically in my backyard.

It really would be nice if the club could do even one centrally located event before the 50th anniversary.

There's nothing stopping your SAAC regional group from putting on a show/event that serves the members in your vicinity.  Just requires folks to do some work and get sponsorship $$.  Make it an annual thing and show the SAAC board that it's a viable location for a SAAC annual convention and maybe it can happen.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: shelbydoug on November 20, 2018, 10:18:25 AM
What about the Mid America Ford and Shelby Nationals.

http://musclecarevents.org

That's pretty much right where you want a SAAC event isn't it. I have no prior knowledge, just a guess, that SAAC has never gone this central as this event appears to be right in the same wheelhouse. I have always wanted to put this on my bucket list as it looks to be like a very cool event. I would think if this was going on in June it would certainly compete with SAAC. I could see why SAAC doesn't go to this neck of the woods and try to compete for everyones $$ on a relatively similar event.

I don't think that it was ever an intention of competing with another avent. It was providing one where there wasn't one with a reasonable chance of success.

If the Mid-America meet is successful, why does there have to be another?

Actually, this is and has been a sore point for quite some time in that in essence SAAC IS in competition with the NorCal Mini-nats.

Hey look, I'm not the arbitrator here. Send your opinion and requests to SAAChq. That's where the decisions are made.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: terlingua11 on November 20, 2018, 10:29:25 AM
What I meant by "competing" I was referring to making a decision. If I had limited travel time and had limited funds, I would have to pick which show I wanted to attend. If SAAC was in the same location as Mid America, but at different times of the year, I would most likely pick the show that had the more convenient time slot. This would in turn limit the success of one of the shows based on everyones selection.

I think if I lived a couple hours drive from such a large event that happens yearly in the same location, I would feel pretty good about it. As SAAC is a traveling caravan of sorts and Mid America is fixed.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: cj750 on November 20, 2018, 10:29:49 AM
What about the Mid America Ford and Shelby Nationals.

http://musclecarevents.org

That's pretty much right where you want a SAAC event isn't it. I have no prior knowledge, just a guess, that SAAC has never gone this central as this event appears to be right in the same wheelhouse. I have always wanted to put this on my bucket list as it looks to be like a very cool event. I would think if this was going on in June it would certainly compete with SAAC. I could see why SAAC doesn't go to this neck of the woods and try to compete for everyones $$ on a relatively similar event.

That's a good question. I've been a regular attendee of what used to be known simply as the Mid-America Shelby Meet for over 25 years. For a long time, it did offer a reasonable alternative to a SAAC meet. A gathering for owners and enthusiasts of Shelbys, Panteras, Bosses, Eliminators, and the rest of the Total Performance era family. Saleens and other late-model Ford performance cars were welcome, but not the focus. But since Ford took over primary sponsorship, (and the event became the Mid-America Ford and Shelby Nationals) it has evolved into a late-model Mustang convention with some old Fords thrown in for variety. The formerly huge swap meet has shrunk to almost nothing, and the general vibe has completely changed. Once, if you showed up with a '62-'70 Shelby product, you were part of a homecoming among friends. Now you're sort of a historical curiosity. Maybe SAAC has gone the same way, but from what I read in the magazine and online, it doesn't seem so.
I don't expect a SAAC meet in my neck of the woods very often. (Although once in 50 years doesn't seem like an unreasonable request.) But it'd be nice to occasionally be able to attend an event with the emphasis on Total Performance era Fords, not boosted Coyote motors, that doesn't require two days trailering to get there.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: terlingua11 on November 20, 2018, 10:37:22 AM
Thanks for the clarification of Mid America. As I mentioned I have never attended, but thought it was more like a SAAC event ( as you mentioned it used to be ). I can hear the disappointment of the event turning into boosted mustangs and late model cars. Not at all what a SAAC event is like. 60's era is the focus as wide as the eye can see. There are a few late model cars for the track, but the emphasis is the 60's era cars-

Sorry to hear about Mid America.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: terlingua11 on November 20, 2018, 12:31:18 PM
I did make the trip with truck and trailer from Milwaukee to the Poconos. 13 hours.... but had a hell of a time!
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: Bob Gaines on November 20, 2018, 04:57:09 PM
What about the Mid America Ford and Shelby Nationals.

http://musclecarevents.org

That's pretty much right where you want a SAAC event isn't it. I have no prior knowledge, just a guess, that SAAC has never gone this central as this event appears to be right in the same wheelhouse. I have always wanted to put this on my bucket list as it looks to be like a very cool event. I would think if this was going on in June it would certainly compete with SAAC. I could see why SAAC doesn't go to this neck of the woods and try to compete for everyones $$ on a relatively similar event.

I don't think that it was ever an intention of competing with another avent. It was providing one where there wasn't one with a reasonable chance of success.

If the Mid-America meet is successful, why does there have to be another?

Actually, this is and has been a sore point for quite some time in that in essence SAAC IS in competition with the NorCal Mini-nats.

Hey look, I'm not the arbitrator here. Send your opinion and requests to SAAChq. That's where the decisions are made.
I was always under the impression that the Nor Cal Mini nats evolved out of necessity for the Nor Cal and So Cal members to provide a event in their area given many were not able to make the typical eastern or Midwest area SAAC national conventions because of distance . Hence the name Mini Nats(nationals). I don't think there is competition there.
Title: Re: SAAC 44
Post by: gjz30075 on November 22, 2018, 02:28:23 PM
I don't care where it is held, I'll be there, schedule permitting.    Nothing a flight and a rental car can't solve.