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Title: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: sfm5s081 on August 09, 2018, 07:41:11 PM
James Mangold is directing for Chernin Entertainment that is due to be released in 2019. Christian Bale is supposed to play Ken Miles. It sounds like that character will be getting equal screen time, which I think is an elevation of Miles' real life role I don't think he was Shelby's fellow strategy advisor but was a.)race driver and b.) a test driver but not necessarily working on the big picture. Matt Damon as "The King" Shooting will take place in California, New Orleans and Atlanta, with just over two months of the shoot taking place in and around Cali’s Kern, Orange, Santa Rosa and San Bernardino counties. Of course Willow Springs and LAX will have some scenes as well. Should be a good movie!
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: 68countrysedan on August 09, 2018, 09:25:47 PM
I have huge doubts about this film. Who is the screen writer? What source material has he consulted?

Since LeMans location filming wasn't mentioned, I presume this film time frame will be lead up preparation to LeMans. Will the cars be real or CGI?

Also, the comment, "....elevation of Miles' real life role. . . but not necessarily working on the big picture." concerns me. What was Miles' role at SA, besides the obvious. Was he Shelby's muse?  Miles had won Daytona and Sebring and knew he could be looking at a racing triple crown. Did it go to his head? What was Shelby's attitude toward Miles? In other words, will the dramatic conflict be accurate as to what it was like or will it be contrived?  Think Gas Monkey Garage with staff personality quirks and how they manage to over come huge problems and get race cars ready just in the nick of time.

For me, the jury will be out for some time.
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: trotrof1 on August 09, 2018, 10:11:22 PM
Be happy that the film is being produced finally sans Tom Cruise.  If they get the story close to accurate without too much fiction then Im good with it.
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: Don Johnston on August 10, 2018, 01:44:57 AM
Well, there is docu-drama and then there is Hollywood box office.  Be careful what you wish for in a Ken Miles/Carroll Shelby screenplay. 8)
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: JD on August 10, 2018, 07:15:31 AM
Phil Remington?
His part should be integral as well as many others
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: 6R07mi on August 10, 2018, 08:42:25 AM
I have huge doubts about this film. Who is the screen writer? What source material has he consulted?

Since LeMans location filming wasn't mentioned, I presume this film time frame will be lead up preparation to LeMans. Will the cars be real or CGI?


As reported in another thread, some key cars are supplied by RCR in Michigan who also provided the GT40 in Fast & Furious 5.

consultant is reportably A J Baime, author of “Go Like Hell” & involved in the video “24 Hour War”, which I thought was a fairly good depiction of the story

regards,
jim p
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: 68countrysedan on August 10, 2018, 11:34:01 AM
Thanks for the update. That's a positive consultant resume.

But I still don't trust that the screen writer/director/producers won't override Mr. Baime's suggestions to make things "more dramatic".  Like crashing a GT Mk. II the day before leaving for LeMans and they rebuild it in time at the local Ford dealer. 
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: sfm5s081 on August 10, 2018, 01:18:13 PM
I think there would be some buzz around the community. They would have to get original cars for the closeups and to document. I haven't heard anything. Rest assured, an open casting call near LAX and you can bet that I'll be there in my 65 GT350! At least this would be period correct
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: CSX 4133 on August 10, 2018, 04:10:05 PM

Matt Damon as CS is all I need to know that this will be a box office bust from La-La land.
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: trotrof1 on August 10, 2018, 05:25:06 PM
I was worried also until they hired Daryl Deino as the hot dog vendor.
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: Don Johnston on August 10, 2018, 06:01:17 PM
What, no role for George Clooney?   8)
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: Side-Oilers on August 10, 2018, 08:47:25 PM
I was worried also until they hired Daryl Deino as the hot dog vendor.

That made me laugh out loud!
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: trotrof1 on August 10, 2018, 09:15:22 PM
Word on the street is Clooney got bumped out of the vendor role when the production company rejected the accommodations necessary for Georges large head. His complicit role in the giant smug didnt help either. Not like San Fran didnt already have enough problems.
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: Fastback66 on August 10, 2018, 09:40:34 PM
There will be fictional drama and it won’t be historically accurate in many details. They aren’t making a documentary for Shelby owners, they’re making entertainment for the average movie goer and hoping to make money. They’ll take many liberties with the truth in order to make it entertaining for Joe Blow and his family.  If you keep this in mind and don’t let it bother you then you might actually enjoy the movie.
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: sfm5s081 on August 11, 2018, 12:44:48 AM
There will be fictional drama and it won’t be historically accurate in many details. They aren’t making a documentary for Shelby owners, they’re making entertainment for the average movie goer and hoping to make money. They’ll take many liberties with the truth in order to make it entertaining for Joe Blow and his family.  If you keep this in mind and don’t let it bother you then you might actually enjoy the movie.

Agreed! The documentary isn't for Ferrari owners either :(
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: mark p on August 11, 2018, 09:09:43 AM
There will be fictional drama and it won’t be historically accurate in many details. They aren’t making a documentary for Shelby owners, they’re making entertainment for the average movie goer and hoping to make money. They’ll take many liberties with the truth in order to make it entertaining for Joe Blow and his family.  If you keep this in mind and don’t let it bother you then you might actually enjoy the movie.

Agreed! The documentary isn't for Ferrari owners either :(

^^^ Yeah, how many of them bought "Go Like Hell"? ??? ::)
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: JD on August 12, 2018, 09:21:34 AM
^^^^ Good reading
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: sfm5s081 on August 20, 2018, 06:03:47 PM
https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2018/08/17/at-last-hollywood-goes-big-on-carroll-shelby/

At least Christian Bale is Ken Miles. They got that right and of course the accent
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: werthie on May 13, 2019, 10:33:58 PM
i saw the film this morning at a Fox screening . . .   very well done and very entertaining.  surprisingly (to me, anyway), it's more a movie about ken miles than about carroll shelby . . .  i can't speak to historical accuracy, but i think they got the big beats right, and you'll all be happy.  christian bale is a great ken miles.
alan
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Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: Side-Oilers on May 14, 2019, 12:20:25 AM
Thanks for the good news on the film.  Our cause didn't need another Days of Blunder.
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: JD on May 14, 2019, 08:10:09 AM
Thanks for the good news on the film.  Our cause didn't need another Days of Blunder.

+1
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: roddster on May 14, 2019, 09:50:30 AM
  Just tell me Danny DeVito is playing Enzo Ferrari
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: 6s1802 on May 14, 2019, 10:26:41 AM
I can vouch for Werthie. He has never been wrong on a film review.
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: werthie on May 14, 2019, 02:24:54 PM
for you purists, there are a few cringe-werthie moments . . .  like when the tach is at redline, and ken shifts into fourth gear, and the revs go UP . . .  but, hey, it's a movie and will hopefully be watched by more people than those of us on the SAAC Forum.
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: 6s1802 on May 14, 2019, 07:07:44 PM
Sat through a lot of movie screenings after I retired and started doing studio security work. I'm guessing continuity isn't important in the industry anymore.
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: sfm5s081 on May 14, 2019, 07:31:28 PM
Alan, you could have parked at my house across the street from Fox. And of course invited Steve and myself to the screening.
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: 68countrysedan on May 14, 2019, 07:40:43 PM
I'm sure there will be cringe worthy technical gaffes. 

However, if the movie is to be successful, it has to be about characters that the audience gets involved with. And per Mr. werthie's comment, the story is more about Ken Miles then Carroll Shelby, to which I don't doubt.

So as a heads up, how would the Shelby/ Miles relationship be characterized? And what about Miles' background that would make him dramatically interesting? Or did the screenwriter/producer utilize contrived character events and situations to drive dramatic conflict?
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: werthie on May 14, 2019, 09:48:45 PM
i'm reluctant to type any "spoilers," but there are many interesting relationships in the movie (e.g., Shelby with Miles, Miles with his wife and son, the Shelby team and the Ford bureaucracy, etc.) . . .  one of my favorite actors, Tracy Letts plays Henry Ford II ("Deuce"), and there's a great scene where Shelby takes him for a hot lap in a GT40.  did it ever happen?  who cares! . . .  the bad guy in the piece is Leo Beebe, Ford's right hand man who (supposedly) did everything he could to get Miles off the team, and who (this is true) masterminded the 1-2-3 photo finish of the race, thereby depriving Miles of the triple crown (Sebring, Daytona, LeMans).   OK, no more . . .  you guys will enjoy the film, i promise!!
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: 68countrysedan on May 14, 2019, 10:36:00 PM
Ok, you're on.

As they say in movie making, I'm willing to suspend disbelief.

P.S. I would like to know what really happened that June. 
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: sfm5s081 on May 15, 2019, 12:41:29 AM
Group viewing?
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: werthie on May 15, 2019, 01:31:59 AM
i'm working on it . . .  can you think of a good venue in So Cal where the parking lot is adjacent to the theater, so we can turn it into a combination movie-and-car-show event?  i'm pals with a marketing exec at Disney, who is working on this film, and she'll help us organize a word-of-mouth screening.
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: rkm on May 15, 2019, 07:53:44 AM
Group viewing at SAAC 44? THAT would be memorable!
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: sd427 on May 15, 2019, 08:58:42 AM
There are a few drive in movie theaters in the LA area.
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: Side-Oilers on May 15, 2019, 02:43:16 PM
Cool idea!!  We can honk our horns during the cringing moments.
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: shelbydoug on May 15, 2019, 02:49:57 PM
i'm working on it . . .  can you think of a good venue in So Cal where the parking lot is adjacent to the theater, so we can turn it into a combination movie-and-car-show event?  i'm pals with a marketing exec at Disney, who is working on this film, and she'll help us organize a word-of-mouth screening.

How about a Convention Premier in Pittsburgh? With advanced notification we can put up chicken wire in front of the screen. They do that in honky tonk bars to protect the band from beer bottles?
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: werthie on May 15, 2019, 04:44:30 PM
a premiere at the Convention would be amazing . . .   if anyone is in touch with the SAAC-44 organizer(s), please have him/them contact me at werthie "at" AOL, and i'll forward their contact info to Disney's marketing gurus. 

alan
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: shelbydoug on May 15, 2019, 05:02:54 PM
I wonder if there' a drive-in in the area? Now wouldn't that be interesting?
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: sfm5s081 on May 15, 2019, 06:36:22 PM
Century City Mall and theater? The parking structure connects to the movie theater. I mean they could also have a viewing at FOX.
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: CSX 4133 on May 27, 2019, 12:47:49 PM

Some examples of the faux GT40's used in the movie.

https://www.gt40s.com/threads/superformance-camera-cars-for-ford-vs-ferrari.52961/
Title: Re: LeMans 66 the movie coming soon!
Post by: sfm5s081 on June 06, 2019, 04:23:24 PM
https://youtu.be/6hWrPtUxO2M