So I am cleaning out my storage locker and my neighbor is cleaning out his locker as well, I look down and see a complete c7zx dual quad intake set up and ask if he wants to sell it and he said he would. I ask if he has anymore STUFF he might sell and said how about some tunnel port 427 engine parts, I said yes I would be interested, we make a deal on price and mention to him it sure would be nice if he new where the rest of the car that the intake manifold came off of, he says he does know where it is and proceeds to take me to it and one thing leads to another and now the Big-Bad-Blue Shelby is headed to my shop. The car was taken off the road in 1971 due to a mishap while street racing. Fast forward 47 years and the Beauty and the beast is now running around on its own power with a 427 medium riser and the goal is to run 176 mph to be the fastest day 2 street Shelby on the planet, using 50 year old technology. It was mentioned before but all was lost to cyber space... Still will need some help finishing my project, Thanks to all who have helped to this point and welcome more assistance in attaining my goal.
After 47 years since someone has driven my car as a complete car, it soon will have all its interior work done to make it whole again. I received the upholstery for it and will soon be getting it back together. It will have parchment comfort weave to compliment its Nightmist blue with white stripes theme. Hope to have some pictures of it going back together as some of you know I'm not too good with taking pics. To those not knowing the story line it was a street racer long before street racing became popular with shows like Street Outlaws. It was the king of the streets around New York-Jersey-Philly areas with Blue Cheer painted on its sides. This is what apparently the owner was on ( BLUE CHEER ) when he took an off road excursion with the tunnel port outfitted 427 and has sat for the last 47 years as an incomplete Bad Boy Big Block. Soon to completed, hope to have some pics showing its progress!
Great story! Nice to hear that one more Shelby is going to be resurrected after so many years. Can't wait to see some of your pictures. Keep us posted and congrats on your found treasure.
Craig R
The car does have an interesting story line to it and am lucky enough to bring it back to its glory days. This car embodies the 1960s early 70s burn your draft cards burn your bras. lets go party, race, get in trouble, drive fast , have fun and rebel against the machine. It was a sign of the times and what everyone was doin at the time , even the music at the time was in favor of these activities. So to relive some of these memories many of us choose cars of this era and music to go along with it. WHAT A LONG STRANGE TRIP ITS BEEN! ;)
Question regarding the chrome buttons on the deluxe seats-My seat kit did not come with this pieces but since I got the last parchment seat kit in the US I didn't want to complain. Are these pieces available by themselves and if they are do they look correct for the application. Are they glued or screwed on? A 2 month waiting period seemed like a long wait to make some more seat covers. They didn't make very many back then and I guess that holds true today.Thanks in advance...
Quote from: 427heaven on February 14, 2018, 07:02:04 AM
Question regarding the chrome buttons on the deluxe seats-My seat kit did not come with this pieces but since I got the last parchment seat kit in the US I didn't want to complain. Are these pieces available by themselves and if they are do they look correct for the application. Are they glued or screwed on? A 2 month waiting period seemed like a long wait to make some more seat covers. They didn't make very many back then and I guess that holds true today.Thanks in advance...
I have always had a upholstery shop make the seats up from scratch. The repro seats use the wrong comfort weave and piping around the edges . Both things stand out to my eye (especialy in concours ;) ) .NPD sells the metal inserts. They look fine. They also sell the metal backing that holds them in from the backside.
Plus one on the repop upholstery covers...Material is too grey and texture is wrong..sticks out like a sore thumb..I actually had my upholstery guy use new comfortweave material he got by the yard to make my drivers seat as it will see more wear...For the passenger side I had him sew in the original comfortweave insert....They are not identical but very,very close..Also as an ace up my sleeve I retained my drivers side insert (which still looks good) in case I ever go the full resto. route...Good Luck! Trent
Thanks guys for the reply on the upholstery since I'm committed with my seat kit we will see how they turn out. If the general consensus is ooh that looks like sh.. than a custom fabricated set will be on the agenda. Pictures to follow
Upholstery shops making covers on site from raw materials?
That has to be something we won't be seeing much longer.
Quote from: 2112 on February 17, 2018, 11:28:19 AM
Upholstery shops making covers on site from raw materials?
That has to be something we won't be seeing much longer.
. Oh my guy will be going for quite some time...Actually ran into him yesterday while riding my bike...Looks healthy as a horse!!! ;D
Quote from: 427heaven on February 02, 2018, 10:56:13 PM
The car does have an interesting story line to it and am lucky enough to bring it back to its glory days. This car embodies the 1960s early 70s burn your draft cards burn your bras. lets go party, race, get in trouble, drive fast , have fun and rebel against the machine. It was a sign of the times and what everyone was doin at the time , even the music at the time was in favor of these activities. So to relive some of these memories many of us choose cars of this era and music to go along with it. WHAT A LONG STRANGE TRIP ITS BEEN! ;)
All that pales by comparison to owning the latest iPhone, right. I can see it now as the aged Millennial tells his grandkids about how he owned the best iPhone in the neighborhood and how he could text faster than anyone else. And that is how he won over your grand ma ma.
When I take my cars out for a little personal time the neighbors can here me coming from many blocks away. When I get close to home I usually see a few millennials that are neighbors kids and ask them if they want to go for a trophy run and burn the tires off and the answer is why do you want to ruin a perfectly good set of tires... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D If ya have to explain it they would never get it! Different times for sure.
Yeah well my car is kinda loud too...Guy across the street has a2015 vette,guy behind me has a driveway full of bow tie products,so that works out nicely...//
As some of you know I am completing my interior of my car that has taken an almost 50 year nap. The question is are the interior panels such as kick panels and deluxe seat back panels finished in a flat -semi gloss- or gloss finish? Thanks in advance.
Quote from: 427heaven on February 26, 2018, 09:55:56 AM
As some of you know I am completing my interior of my car that has taken an almost 50 year nap. The question is are the interior panels such as kick panels and deluxe seat back panels finished in a flat -semi gloss- or gloss finish? Thanks in advance.
The kick panels ,lower seat trim and hard backs are more of a semigloss then a flat.
Quote from: 427heaven on February 26, 2018, 09:55:56 AM
As some of you know I am completing my interior of my car that has taken an almost 50 year nap. The question is are the interior panels such as kick panels and deluxe seat back panels finished in a flat -semi gloss- or gloss finish? Thanks in advance.
Since these were molded in the color rather than painted they have a different look than many of the other surfaces around the interior and IMHO likely most of a shine (still being a semi-gloss) than the other surfaces especially originally fresh out of the molds
Quote from: 427heaven on February 19, 2018, 12:30:57 AM
When I take my cars out for a little personal time the neighbors can here me coming from many blocks away. When I get close to home I usually see a few millennials that are neighbors kids and ask them if they want to go for a trophy run and burn the tires off and the answer is why do you want to ruin a perfectly good set of tires... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D If ya have to explain it they would never get it! Different times for sure.
That's crazy 😜
Quote from: 557 on February 19, 2018, 02:36:04 AM
Yeah well my car is kinda loud too...
I got one of dem things......
In fact I think it's my first street car where I need ear protection....
Oh yea? Did your 'terrible 20's sons say, "hey Dad, that's a little loud, don't you think"? 'Big Brother is taking over. I'm afraid they are going to turn me in? :o
Parchment interior pieces are very hard to find both the originals and replacement items. Since I didn't want to wait months for some pieces to be made I went with the last parchment kit That was available at the time. This car will have a complete fresh interior installed so I wanted to get the color,texture,shine etc right. Thanks to all that have gotten me this far it has been a long road but it seems like its almost there. The list of guys is getting longer that want to drive it for its record run of 176 mph but for now its still going to be me!!! :)
Good grief I just found out one of the spring clips on the deluxe seat backs is missing, broken off. Does any one know of a source where I could purchase one and how does one fix that situation? :-\
Quote from: 427heaven on March 08, 2018, 06:33:02 PM
Good grief I just found out one of the spring clips on the deluxe seat backs is missing, broken off. Does any one know of a source where I could purchase one and how does one fix that situation? :-\
They are missing on at least half of all 67 deluxe hardbacks on Ebay. They are out there . I mostly see them coming up on ebay. You might ask one of the vendors what people do who buy the cr@#py repro ones. I can't imagine there being enough original loose clips out there to supply all of the repro hard backs sold. There was a guy that seemed to adv them on ebay about every 3 or 4 months. You might have to step up and by a really bad broken one to get the hardware. Or you might have to buy a pair when you only need one. You might even have to buy another complete nice hard back and sell the one you have . Just trying to give you the lay of the land. They are out there but very hard to find when you need one so if you are lucky enough to come across one don't let it get away . It might be a long time coming to find another.
Thanks BOB as usual- My eyes and ears are peeled for one or more of these UNICORNS.
While the interior is gutted and ready for an install I located my original gauge pod and was wondering if the factory wiring harness had pigtails added for the install of the gauge pod, or was the loom cut and spliced at SHELBY AMERICAN.
Quote from: 427heaven on March 20, 2018, 06:50:55 PM
While the interior is gutted and ready for an install I located my original gauge pod and was wondering if the factory wiring harness had pigtails added for the install of the gauge pod, or was the loom cut and spliced at SHELBY AMERICAN.
If you are referring to power for lights the power was tapped off the instrument light (radio is closest) using the white Scotch Locs like what is used at on the headlight harness.
Thanking everyone along the way who have helped me get my project, Beauty - Beast back together. The interior is taking baby steps and now has the seats recovered. I wasn't sure if I was going to make the tow, to Nor-Cal this summer but is looking better everyday. Do we need to get sign up info thru the club or just show up to the event? Thanks in advance-
I knew I would have to cross this bridge sooner or later so the time has come to find a person or company that can get my steering wheel correct for my 67, so what color,texture,finish am I looking for?
PM sent
Jeff Stephens is the wheel restoration guy-
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Sorry, can't seem to get that file any smaller- tried the 999 thing and it didn't work
Like billboard, lol.
Jeff did 2 wheels for me and he did a great job-
Thanks for the info guys, Holding on at 177 mph means everything to get it right, plus an accurate,correct,finish. :)
Did the attachment feature get revived? Did I miss this?
Couldn't quite make SAAC 43 this year,hope all are having a great time. Making slow but steady progress,its a bitch getting old :-\
Did all 67s get the 2 1/2 wide sintered rear brake shoes, and if so what was the special front brake pads used? :-[
Anyone with an assist with the brake pad situation. Trying to see if the original stuff will stop as well as the modern pads.
Quote from: 427heaven on September 18, 2018, 04:36:06 PM
Anyone with an assist with the brake pad situation. Trying to see if the original stuff will stop as well as the modern pads.
Yes 2 1/2 was common on all 67 Shelby's. The attitude on brake shoes and pads changed to the less aggressive after the 66 Hertz Mico fiasco. I am not aware of a different front pad for 67 Shelby. The front calipers were different in some way according to the engineering number but I can not figure out why. I bet Cobra Automotive would have a handle on a aggressive front and rear shoes and pads depending on your expectations.
Thanks Bob- You know the goal is the fastest day 2 SHELBY on the planet. So some of the areas of concern is to build it the way they were back in the day but keep things safe as possible. 177mph is really moving and the original Super Snake didn't have modern Brembo 6 piston calipers so mine will not have these as well. I will have to give Curt a call and see what his awesome machines run on. :)
Quote from: 427heaven on September 18, 2018, 06:22:39 PM
Thanks Bob- You know the goal is the fastest day 2 SHELBY on the planet. So some of the areas of concern is to build it the way they were back in the day but keep things safe as possible. 177mph is really moving and the original Super Snake didn't have modern Brembo 6 piston calipers so mine will not have these as well. I will have to give Curt a call and see what his awesome machines run on.
I suppose you could get some of Curt's caliper adapters (look comparable to stock) that bolt on the larger 67 T Bird calipers (also need a different rotor). That is what the later TA cars ran . It could conceivably be a day 2 mod given the parts were available back in the day. That would really help stop it. They look identical to the stock calipers just larger. They will not work with magstars however. Anyway just a thought.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on September 18, 2018, 08:40:11 PM
Quote from: 427heaven on September 18, 2018, 06:22:39 PM
Thanks Bob- You know the goal is the fastest day 2 SHELBY on the planet. So some of the areas of concern is to build it the way they were back in the day but keep things safe as possible. 177mph is really moving and the original Super Snake didn't have modern Brembo 6 piston calipers so mine will not have these as well. I will have to give Curt a call and see what his awesome machines run on.
I suppose you could get some of Curt's caliper adapters (look comparable to stock) that bolt on the larger 67 T Bird calipers (also need a different rotor). That is what the later TA cars ran . It could conceivably be a day 2 mod given the parts were available back in the day. That would really help stop it. They look identical to the stock calipers just larger. They will not work with magstars however. Anyway just a thought.
I did this mod and would recommend it. How fast do I need to be to beat you? Only 177? :)
The Super Snake supposedly ran 175 mph with a then day 2, modded high riser. My goal has always been to get there with a medium riser because that's what all the Cobra guys and racers preferred. I know anyone can drop in a modern bullet that could easily reach that number,so the goal was to get there with 50 year old technology. There is not much info out there that describes the car in detail so basically stock with some muscle under the hood is the premise im going off of. Doug I guess 178 is the number you need to be at. ;)
You may want to strive for 183+mph as that has been done on a bicycle, with a tow then released for the mile behind a blocker vehicle :o ;D
https://www.facebook.com/FireCycle/videos/670357570017769/
I don't have big enough HUEVOS, she doesn't need to worry about that situation. ;D
Quote from: 427heaven on September 18, 2018, 10:10:46 PM
The Super Snake supposedly ran 175 mph with a then day 2, modded high riser. My goal has always been to get there with a medium riser because that's what all the Cobra guys and racers preferred. I know anyone can drop in a modern bullet that could easily reach that number,so the goal was to get there with 50 year old technology. There is not much info out there that describes the car in detail so basically stock with some muscle under the hood is the premise im going off of. Doug I guess 178 is the number you need to be at. ;)
I remember being on the track at Pocono. The Speedo showed roughly 176. it was blurry because looking down the track was more important. Dick Smith in his Cobra came blasting by. Perogie was running down the straits in his red 500 with the nose up in the air.
You would think that the air was rare up there?
Doug- How did the speedo read 176 when it only goes to 140? ;D
It goes around 2-1/2 times. ;D
Smiths gauge. Cobra.
The drive gear was wrong. Actually 183 or so. 8,300 +/- rpm.
Fuel pressure gauge going 0 to 7 like a clock ticking...tick, tock, tick, tock.
ZOOM! There goes Smith zooming by, hunkered down under the windshield (no helmet either). ;)
Dick Smith was quite a guy. Didn't he have the worlds fastest street driven Cobra? At 199 mph it wouldn't matter if he had a helmet or not if things went bad. :(
Make sure ur wearing one My Friend!
10-4 Biggie..... Safety first time, and every time!
After the turkey overload and pre Christmas cheer I was able to spend a little more time on said project. Some fine tuning on the (twins) 750 cfm carbs, seems to be happy with some more cfm. Power output is in line with the SUPER SNAKES, after reading the recent hoopla of the SS it has got me more motivated to finally finish things up. I am curious about the ss gear ratio, anyone know if it was a standard 2.80 ratio or a custom gear set built for the test runs?
+1 good to hear you are making progress
Quote from: 427heaven on November 25, 2018, 09:13:22 AM
After the turkey overload and pre Christmas cheer I was able to spend a little more time on said project. Some fine tuning on the (twins) 750 cfm carbs, seems to be happy with some more cfm. Power output is in line with the SUPER SNAKES, after reading the recent hoopla of the SS it has got me more motivated to finally finish things up. I am curious about the ss gear ratio, anyone know if it was a standard 2.80 ratio or a custom gear set built for the test runs?
Quote from: 427heaven on November 25, 2018, 09:13:22 AM
After the turkey overload and pre Christmas cheer I was able to spend a little more time on said project. Some fine tuning on the (twins) 750 cfm carbs, seems to be happy with some more cfm. Power output is in line with the SUPER SNAKES, after reading the recent hoopla of the SS it has got me more motivated to finally finish things up. I am curious about the ss gear ratio, anyone know if it was a standard 2.80 ratio or a custom gear set built for the test runs?
It was a 2 something. 2.50's are the lowest I've ever heard of. The 427 GT40's at Lemans had such a lower gear that they needed a push start to get going.
Considering that the limiting factor then was lack of high rpm valve spring technology and 7,000 rpm was the absolute limit, find a gear calculator, factor in the rpm and see what that would suggest. I'd think that the 2.50's were is order?
I have a little experience with the lightweight 427 components. The heads are a 50/50 proposition with not breaking, holding head gaskets and the sodium filled exhaust valves liked to snap the valve stems. ESPECIALLY with headers.
The scavenging effect they create permits "cold" are from hitting the valve stems which makes them brittle.
It was not what anyone would consider a reliable engine.
Quote from: shelbydoug on November 25, 2018, 09:52:16 AM
Quote from: 427heaven on November 25, 2018, 09:13:22 AM
After the turkey overload and pre Christmas cheer I was able to spend a little more time on said project. Some fine tuning on the (twins) 750 cfm carbs, seems to be happy with some more cfm. Power output is in line with the SUPER SNAKES, after reading the recent hoopla of the SS it has got me more motivated to finally finish things up. I am curious about the ss gear ratio, anyone know if it was a standard 2.80 ratio or a custom gear set built for the test runs?
It was a 2 something. 2.50's are the lowest I've ever heard of. The 427 GT40's at Lemans had such a lower gear that they needed a push start to get going.
Considering that the limiting factor then was lack of high rpm valve spring technology and 7,000 rpm was the absolute limit, find a gear calculator, factor in the rpm and see what that would suggest. I'd think that the 2.50's were is order?
I have a little experience with the lightweight 427 components. The heads are a 50/50 proposition with not breaking, holding head gaskets and the sodium filled exhaust valves liked to snap the valve stems. ESPECIALLY with headers.
The scavenging effect they create permits "cold" are from hitting the valve stems which makes them brittle.
It was not what anyone would consider a reliable engine.
I think it was a reliable engine if you consider the context of how the lightweight engine was used. It was very reliable in the context of how it was used which apparently was one time on a rebuild. Otherwise the GT40 program wouldn't have been so successful . Heads and valves were reported to have been replaced after every race. That coupled with the relatively low compression of around 10.2 to 1 made for a very reliable long distance race engine in the context of how it was used. I think anything longer term then one race or heaven forbid more compression like 427's like it then it was a ticking time bomb given the head and valve train IMO.
Hum? If one considers it a race engine, reliable for only one race, I would agree that it was successful considering it's race history, yes. I would also agree that is the context of which it was intended.
The sodium filled exhaust valves however were standard equipment in 427MR's as well and certainly weren't changed after every run around the block.
In the days when I was actively seeking a 427 Cobra (the early to mid '70s), I couldn't understand why so many cars with under 8,000 miles had failed engines or had replacement engines.
In the context of a street engine, from what I saw, even the MR could not accurately be described as reliable, but then I think a reliable engine should last at least 50,000 miles. I guess then that a 100,000 mile engine is a miracle engine?
You and I just have a different definition of reliable I suspect? That's ok though. The most desirable cars from the '60s now were some of the most impracticable for every day use then. Terms change. ;)
Quote from: shelbydoug on November 25, 2018, 02:45:24 PM
Hum? If one considers it a race engine, reliable for only one race, I would agree that it was successful considering it's race history, yes. I would also agree that is the context of which it was intended.
The sodium filled exhaust valves however were standard equipment in 427MR's as well and certainly weren't changed after every run around the block.
In the days when I was actively seeking a 427 Cobra (the early to mid '70s), I couldn't understand why so many cars with under 8,000 miles had failed engines or had replacement engines.
In the context of a street engine, from what I saw, even the MR could not accurately be described as reliable, but then I think a reliable engine should last at least 50,000 miles. I guess then that a 100,000 mile engine is a miracle engine?
You and I just have a different definition of reliable I suspect? That's ok though. The most desirable cars from the '60s now were some of the most impracticable for every day use then. Terms change. ;)
Doug,I am skeptical that the sodium filled valves were standard equipment on the typical factory 427 MR. You do have me second guessing what I remember. I understood The hollow stem and sodium filled valves to be a high performance extra. I pulled out the 1966 Ford High Performance guide to double check and under 427 engine specs it list forged steel-chrome plated stem. In 66 I can only assume it is the medium riser. You can understand why I am skeptical. Respectfully help me understand your point of view with further documentation .
Quote from: Bob Gaines on November 25, 2018, 06:12:32 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on November 25, 2018, 02:45:24 PM
Hum? If one considers it a race engine, reliable for only one race, I would agree that it was successful considering it's race history, yes. I would also agree that is the context of which it was intended.
The sodium filled exhaust valves however were standard equipment in 427MR's as well and certainly weren't changed after every run around the block.
In the days when I was actively seeking a 427 Cobra (the early to mid '70s), I couldn't understand why so many cars with under 8,000 miles had failed engines or had replacement engines.
In the context of a street engine, from what I saw, even the MR could not accurately be described as reliable, but then I think a reliable engine should last at least 50,000 miles. I guess then that a 100,000 mile engine is a miracle engine?
You and I just have a different definition of reliable I suspect? That's ok though. The most desirable cars from the '60s now were some of the most impracticable for every day use then. Terms change. ;)
Doug,I am skeptical that the sodium filled valves were standard equipment on the typical factory 427 MR. You do have me second guessing what I remember. I understood The hollow stem and sodium filled valves to be a high performance extra. I pulled out the 1966 Ford High Performance guide to double check and under 427 engine specs it list forged steel-chrome plated stem. In 66 I can only assume it is the medium riser. You can understand why I am skeptical. Respectfully help me understand your point of view with further documentation .
I guess this is just the difference with comparing eye witness testimony with printed data? In my case, I just talked to about a dozen owners and the discussion was why there were so many engine failures. I interpreted that there was a consensus blaming the sodium filled exhaust valves.
Continuing that train of thought, I remember written discussions, or maybe mentions of that in past posts going back to the Cobra Club. I never cross examined those testimonies.
Unfortunately, I don't have a library of printed documentation here and wouldn't know if there was an early engine version and a running change version? Some people to this day, still quote early printed versions of the SAAC Registry of the number of Dealer installed 427's as fact?
When people ask me a specific question I always tell them to ask you. "Ask Bob. He'll know".
I remember that when the Warren Commission released it's report on the Kennedy assassination, they had received testimony from 5,000 or so eye witnesses. The problem was that much of the testimony directly contradicted others. So they had to make a decision on what testimony to accept and what to deny.
Not being an attorney, I'd pick a simpler explanation/solution. Groucho Marx once said, "who you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?" ;D
Since the question was brought up if sodium valves were original equipment for 427s I felt the need to ask around. Since my love of these engines occurred after the originals were thoroughly used and abused asking those that were around then and built many of them, their answer is it was not customary to run them on the street, and were ordered typically from racers of that era and not hot street performance engines.
With some talk about having a new place to post on here for Day 2 cars, I would like to submit my entry into this category.....
Can't wait to see some pics !!.... 8)
Anyone headed to the Scottsdale auctions, thinking about taking Sleeping Beauty to the events surrounding the Auctions. Should be a wail of a good time and record numbers on the block. Good luck to all those attending, and either buying or selling. :)
No pictures?
I will try to post some pictures this week- :)
Still have no help posting pictures, but been way to cold to do anything. Did these cars have a prop rod for the rear escape hatch panel?
Quote from: 427heaven on February 24, 2019, 02:06:27 PM
Still have no help posting pictures, but been way to cold to do anything. Did these cars have a prop rod for the rear escape hatch panel?
All 67 Fastbacks with trap door regardless of if Mustang or Shelby.
Thanks Bob as usual, didn't want to chase down a golden unicorn or the equivalent.
Escape hatch? Are you a Coyote? ;D ;D
Yes, there is a prop handle handle for the trap door. Here is a link if you're interested.
https://www.npdlink.com/search/products?search_terms=45734-2B&top_parent=200001&year=1967
Thanks guys for the assist... Still looking thru boxes of stuff to get my baby back together. Years of hoarding and multiple projects just complicate matters. :-[
This is a question for the do it yourselfers..... What is the process to paint interior panels without filling in the grain or texture to all the interior pieces. I do realize there are people that do this work for a living but I wanted to do this myself without sending panels every which way for painting.
Quote from: 427heaven on March 16, 2019, 08:43:48 PM
This is a question for the do it yourselfers..... What is the process to paint interior panels without filling in the grain or texture to all the interior pieces. I do realize there are people that do this work for a living but I wanted to do this myself without sending panels every which way for painting.
Strip all of the paint off of the panels first . I use easy off oven cleaner in the yellow can (Lye is one of the ingredients). It may take one or more applications depending on how much paint. The oven cleaner does not hurt the grain. After it sits for 30 minutes or so and the paint wrinkles up wash it down with water and a stiff PLASTIC scrub brush to get all loose paint off. Dry and repeat until all of the paint is off . After paint is off and panels are dry make sure it is sanitary clean . Use a plastic prep like SEMS for best results or at least go over with lacquer thinner before painting. For black interiors it is recommended to start with a black base coat . I use semigloss black. Krylon will work. After the black base coat you can paint with the (typically lacquer) dark charcoal metallic top coat. The dark charcoal metallic goes on thin and doesn't typically cover well which is why the base coat . Of course use a professional paint product in a spray gun. I would highly recommend staying away from spray cans /rattle cans of charcoal grey metallic that are sold from the Mustang vendors . That is if you want the best results.You want as few coats as possible so as not to fill in the grain. That is what works for me . Others may do it differently.
Thanks again BOB for the reply... Would a paint product called adhesion promoter be good for this process or not. I want it to look as natural as possible without filling in the grain. Multiple light coats?
Quote from: 427heaven on March 17, 2019, 10:30:53 AM
Thanks again BOB for the reply... Would a paint product called adhesion promoter be good for this process or not. I want it to look as natural as possible without filling in the grain. Multiple light coats?
Did not find it necessary, clean and dry surface was all that was needed - one persons experience. I used flat black or hot rod gray primer as a base before the charcoal gray metallic.
Quote from: JD on March 17, 2019, 10:49:52 AM
Quote from: 427heaven on March 17, 2019, 10:30:53 AM
Thanks again BOB for the reply... Would a paint product called adhesion promoter be good for this process or not. I want it to look as natural as possible without filling in the grain. Multiple light coats?
Did not find it necessary, clean and dry surface was all that was needed - one persons experience. I used flat black or hot rod gray primer as a base before the charcoal gray metallic.
I've had issues with the
paint re-paint flaking off.
JD... Thanks for the reply as well, good to hear you pop in once in awhile. Doug thanks for the reply also, so what do you recommend for this? I cringe not knowing how you might respond, but always love the banter. ;D
Paint is a strange medium. You can do everything right and it fails. All you can do is go through the procedure again.
Personally I'd feel better if there was a hardener used with it but that stuff fails too...and when it does, it's harder to get off.
I have no recommendations for you. Go the Gaines route. It's the best procedure. If it doesn't work, then... ;D
Slow and steady wins the race... Most of the time probably not , but it does help get a very long project together. Thanks to all with the interior advice, it is making progress. Driving the car without interior sounds like sitting in a tin can with a rocket attached. One day hopefully sooner than later it will be completed. :-[
Quote from: 427heaven on April 11, 2019, 11:53:49 PM
Slow and steady wins the race... Most of the time probably not , but it does help get a very long project together. Thanks to all with the interior advice, it is making progress. Driving the car without interior sounds like sitting in a tin can with a rocket attached. One day hopefully sooner than later it will be completed. :-[
+ 1 you can do it !
Anthony-Keith... Thank you for posting the article about the SUPER SNAKE it allows me to compare the original car to mine which seems to have most similarities covered. I got the top end speed figured out, I need to be around 177 mph flat out, but do we know the quarter mile time slips? ;D
Anyone know what the Super Snakes quarter mile time slips were ?
With or without the super-tall rear axle ratio?
(I don't know either...)
One of the most iconic SHELBYS of all time and no one knows what it ran at the strip? It seems to be shrouded in secrecy, and what exactly was changed to run top end speed tests vs drag strip numbers. Really would like to know, might try to best... its best numbers.
I wouldn't be surprised if they never ran it for time at a drag strip. When developing a top speed car, there's often little concern for a 0-60 or 1/4 mile time.
There's a rumor the "Super Snake's" first two owners drag raced it in Texas.
It may have had the name 'EL JEFE' painted on the side in red
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I was thinking about the initial development by Shelby. Not the car's afterlife. But that would count too!
Thanks Rich,
Van
Quote from: 427heaven on May 14, 2019, 12:25:41 PM
One of the most iconic SHELBYS of all time and no one knows what it ran at the strip? It seems to be shrouded in secrecy, and what exactly was changed to run top end speed tests vs drag strip numbers. Really would like to know, might try to best... its best numbers.
It's no faster then a stock GT500 before they popped in the 2.75's. After that you had to push start it.
Quote from: shelbydoug on May 14, 2019, 04:30:07 PM
Quote from: 427heaven on May 14, 2019, 12:25:41 PM
One of the most iconic SHELBYS of all time and no one knows what it ran at the strip? It seems to be shrouded in secrecy, and what exactly was changed to run top end speed tests vs drag strip numbers. Really would like to know, might try to best... its best numbers.
It's no faster then a stock GT500 before they popped in the 2.75's. After that you had to push start it.
Maybe just a little bit faster?... ;D
Quote from: 427heaven on May 14, 2019, 04:37:16 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on May 14, 2019, 04:30:07 PM
Quote from: 427heaven on May 14, 2019, 12:25:41 PM
One of the most iconic SHELBYS of all time and no one knows what it ran at the strip? It seems to be shrouded in secrecy, and what exactly was changed to run top end speed tests vs drag strip numbers. Really would like to know, might try to best... its best numbers.
It's no faster then a stock GT500 before they popped in the 2.75's. After that you had to push start it.
Maybe just a little bit faster?... ;D
OK, but just a LITTLE faster. ;)
My upholstery is finally going in and I need to find the correct seat belt bolts. What type of finish did these have ,gold iridate, chrome, zinc plated? I take it the shoulder belts need longer bolts for the roll bar? I have boxes of stuff to pilfer thru, thanks again for the assist.
Quote from: 427heaven on July 26, 2019, 01:12:40 PM
My upholstery is finally going in and I need to find the correct seat belt bolts. What type of finish did these have ,gold iridate, chrome, zinc plated? I take it the shoulder belts need longer bolts for the roll bar? I have boxes of stuff to pilfer thru, thanks again for the assist.
The seat bolts finish is called zinc dichromate. It comes out gold in color. Be careful installing the rollbar bolt to the headliner //roof structure . If you use one too long it will pit a dent in your roof. FYI that bolt gets a silver washer underneath so as to keep the bolt head from digging into the rubber covering of the roll bar.
Much thanks Bob... I will be cautious when I find and install these bolts. :)
64 pages later.............. Still no pictures.
Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on July 29, 2019, 03:47:09 PM
64 pages later.............. Still no pictures.
What? Still no pics? Gee-se! ;D
OK... how do I do these pictures on here, anyone willing to PM me on how to do it and I will post some. :-[
Another question from the photo challenged one. I found a box of goodies for my car and in it are the original COBRA seat belts but I don't know where some thick washers and long bolts go , are they for the overhead roll bar mounting points it doesn't look like really long bolts are necessary? :-\
Quote from: 427heaven on September 22, 2019, 12:16:03 PM
Another question from the photo challenged one. I found a box of goodies for my car and in it are the original COBRA seat belts but I don't know where some thick washers and long bolts go , are they for the overhead roll bar mounting points it doesn't look like really long bolts are necessary? :-\
I assume you mean Shelby Mustang belts given your talking about the roll bar. Shelby Cobra belts are typically a different looking animal. If you use too long of a bolt in the upper roll bar mounting point it will make contact with the roof sheet metal and poke a dent upward as seen from the topside.Sorry that I don't have one out to measure .Maybe another? From the factory there was no washer between the roll bar and headliner and there was a thin flat washer under the head of the bolt so as not to tear into the rubber coating when it was tightened up.
or are you asking about the lap belt bolts?
Bob and JD... I am putting my 67 together and to clarify it literally came home in 100s of boxes. So with so much stuff to pick thru I found the seat belt box of stuff and had to blow off almost 50 years of dust off of them, at least they are in exceptional condition. There are a few seat belt bolts in there that seem quite a bit longer then the normal looking bolts, and a few very thick looking washers also? I was referencing the Cobra logo on the push button part of the belts, sorry no real Cobra here at least not yet. ;D
Be careful of that roof sheet metal as Bob said. I really like 67s and at one point almost had one but it wasn't meant to be. Fun stuff going through the car and breathing life back into the chassis. In a way, they are almost living organisms with machine internals.
Quote from: 427heaven on September 22, 2019, 05:15:02 PM
Bob and JD... I am putting my 67 together and to clarify it literally came home in 100s of boxes. So with so much stuff to pick thru I found the seat belt box of stuff and had to blow off almost 50 years of dust off of them, at least they are in exceptional condition. There are a few seat belt bolts in there that seem quite a bit longer then the normal looking bolts, and a few very thick looking washers also? I was referencing the Cobra logo on the push button part of the belts, sorry no real Cobra here at least not yet. ;D
The tunnel belts are typically installed bolt, washer, front belt,spacer, shoulder harness,washer ,floor . Rocker belt are typically installed bolt,washer, front belt ,spacer ,shoulder harness ,washer ,rocker . The spacer could be what you are referring to as the thick washer.
Thanks BOB..JD and others for the help getting my baby back together. That's the parts I do have and now can move forward again. Most grateful. :)
After installing what appears to have been the STANDARD type seat belt bolts I found some DIFFERENT type seat belt bolts in the boxes of stuff and found what appears to be gold iridate bolts with a 6 point interior of the head bolt and round exterior of the bolts. Correct or not?
Quote from: 427heaven on October 17, 2019, 04:17:16 PM
After installing what appears to have been the STANDARD type seat belt bolts I found some DIFFERENT type seat belt bolts in the boxes of stuff and found what appears to be gold iridate bolts with a 6 point interior of the head bolt and round exterior of the bolts. Correct or not?
I believe "not" - Bob G or Jeff S would know better...
Thanks JD, for the help thru the years as well! ;)
Quote from: JD on October 17, 2019, 04:24:03 PM
Quote from: 427heaven on October 17, 2019, 04:17:16 PM
After installing what appears to have been the STANDARD type seat belt bolts I found some DIFFERENT type seat belt bolts in the boxes of stuff and found what appears to be gold iridate bolts with a 6 point interior of the head bolt and round exterior of the bolts. Correct or not?
I believe "not" - Bob G or Jeff S would know better...
+1 on not.
Quote from: JD on October 17, 2019, 04:24:03 PM
I believe "not" - Bob G or Jeff S would know better...
Guess we have three "nots" And no not going there :)
In my car, those bolts that you describe are for the front bolt on flange of the roll bar, not the seat belts.
Quote from: shelbydoug on October 18, 2019, 11:02:33 AM
In my car, those bolts that you describe are for the front bolt on flange of the roll bar, not the seat belts.
The outside appearance of the bolt should be hex on the roll bar bolt if it was factory installed.
Happy Holidays to all! I have a little time to work on my car and was wondering about my exhaust. I have the exhaust running out the rear valance about 2 inches. Since it is built using a few upgraded pieces for performance the question is how far is the correct tips to stick out the rear valance ? Did the original cars have the polished trim to go around the surround or did that get added by many owners for a little extra bling. My car is running 2. 5 exhaust does anyone make tips for that size pipe? Be safe and enjoy your rides- :)
See attached, stick-out on a stock car with factory parts, note this is a later car with the "GT" rear valance.
Regarding the "bright" trim, there were a couple types used BUT those were only used on the early cars that rear valance that did/does not have any exhaust cut-outs and the workers at Shelby American hand cut them and then added the (one of the types of) trim pieces. So if your car has the GT valance no trim rings, but if you wanted to add some you'll have to fabricate some to match the wide opening as the were never any made for those.
If you did the early version and hand cut openings you can use some '66 GT exhaust trim rings and cut some of the bottoms off like most of the early cars got. There were two versions of "flat" trim also used but those you'd have to make from scratch.
(I think there are cars up and into the 14XX's with the early style rear valance - the valance was installed by Ford at San Jose. I would guess the change to the GT valance was to simplify and speed-up completion of the cars and reduce costs)
Quote from: 427heaven on December 15, 2019, 09:31:15 AM
Happy Holidays to all! I have a little time to work on my car and was wondering about my exhaust. I have the exhaust running out the rear valance about 2 inches. Since it is built using a few upgraded pieces for performance the question is how far is the correct tips to stick out the rear valance ? Did the original cars have the polished trim to go around the surround or did that get added by many owners for a little extra bling. My car is running 2. 5 exhaust does anyone make tips for that size pipe? Be safe and enjoy your rides- :)
Years ago I had a 2.5 exhaust on one of my 67 GT500's . I had my Muffler shop swedge down a 3 in pipe to 2.5 and then chop to end at the same angle and the same length as the stock tip. I took the tip and then had it chrome plated. That was the best way for me to have a exact looking tip to fit the 2.5 exhaust.
Thanks JD- BOB for the great pics and explanation of things. I have the wide cut out with no bright work but would like some trim to clean things up down there. It looks like it is incomplete without the trim to me. Any ideas what people are using to modify that, a standard GT trim maybe?
Quote from: 427heaven on December 16, 2019, 10:33:11 PM
Thanks JD- BOB for the great pics and explanation of things. I have the wide cut out with no bright work but would like some trim to clean things up down there. It looks like it is incomplete without the trim to me. Any ideas what people are using to modify that, a standard GT trim maybe?
To each their own but it was only used on the early 67 Shelby's from SA for good reason. Do you realize that ether style trim was used on the plain rear valance after notches were cut out of the sheet metal. SA cut out openings in the plain valance for the duel exhaust tips and the trim hid the rough edges. Nether of the factory trim pieces will work if you have the factory Ford duel exhaust valance. I have a extra pr of the die cast trim for the rear valance used on early 67 Shelby's and GTE's. The other style is made from modifying the 66 duel exhaust bezels.
After a lot of thought I will keep the exterior as built, even the exhaust system looks. Merry Christmas everyone! :)
And still not a single picture...
Can someone please PM me with simple picture posting procedures... For someone that's a little (TARDY TO THE PARTY) That's one of my new years resolutions. Thanks-
The SCOTTSDALE party has begun.. Going to try and get there for some of the activities... Don't want to be tardy to this party, World record prices are in the air, we shall see. ;)
Another BJ in the books... Had a great time meeting up with old friends and meeting a few new ones, including our own ''Special Ed". I wont reference that anymore, but it was great exchanging automotive pleasantries, and kind words about Sleeping Beauty. Hope all had a great time and have a safe trip back to many of those frozen locales. Until next time be safe and enjoy your rides! :)
I think you mean the Cougar XR7-G, not GT-E. The GT-E never used a cutout in the valance nor any sort of exhaust trim.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on December 16, 2019, 11:07:14 PM
Quote from: 427heaven on December 16, 2019, 10:33:11 PM
Thanks JD- BOB for the great pics and explanation of things. I have the wide cut out with no bright work but would like some trim to clean things up down there. It looks like it is incomplete without the trim to me. Any ideas what people are using to modify that, a standard GT trim maybe?
To each their own but it was only used on the early 67 Shelby's from SA for good reason. Do you realize that ether style trim was used on the plain rear valance after notches were cut out of the sheet metal. SA cut out openings in the plain valance for the duel exhaust tips and the trim hid the rough edges. Nether of the factory trim pieces will work if you have the factory Ford duel exhaust valance. I have a extra pr of the die cast trim for the rear valance used on early 67 Shelby's and GTE's. The other style is made from modifying the 66 duel exhaust bezels.
Thanks Royce for an update on those pieces. I have a bit of a conundrum my car was built in the latter part of the first 1/3 of production. So its not real early and doesn't have factory tin snip cut outs :-[ and its a later version of the rear valance so the shape of the trim to surround the cut out, really doesn't exist as a factory piece off of anything else?
Well in light of the crisis mode the country is in, I decided to take my car out for some personal time and burn a few fossils. The streets in the western hemisphere are all but deserted which allowed some spirited driving that has not been seen in decades. As it was a very good time it was very sobering looking around like an APACALYPSE moment. May it return to some resemblance of what we used to call normal. Enjoy your rides and not worry about values too much.
+1 like a fine bottle of wine, smell it, savour it and then slurp it up and enjoy life is short
Quote from: 427heaven on March 18, 2020, 02:58:58 PM
Well in light of the crisis mode the country is in, I decided to take my car out for some personal time and burn a few fossils. The streets in the western hemisphere are all but deserted which allowed some spirited driving that has not been seen in decades. As it was a very good time it was very sobering looking around like an APACALYPSE moment. May it return to some resemblance of what we used to call normal. Enjoy your rides and not worry about values too much.
That's funny Tony- As much as I like a smoke show, I prefer more forward motion with a haze of smoke trailing behind. :)
Quote from: 427heaven on March 19, 2020, 09:57:35 PM
That's funny Tony- As much as I like a smoke show, I prefer more forward motion with a haze of smoke trailing behind. :)
That was a $2,000+ burn out. Took the fan, fan shroud, radiator, belts, motor mount, one ujoint and tore one tire off the rim.
Could have been a lot worse....
I'll bet the interior still smells like victory, however. Burned rubber is a fine odor, IMO.
Intact, no issues still in car as we speak
Quote from: Side-Oilers on March 19, 2020, 10:47:09 PM
The clutch survived?
Sleeping beauty a Ghost?
No its real, and has been caught on camera a few times. Trying to capture those images and post here is seemingly like me trying to learn Chinese. :-[
Pronounced in this manner Shine-Ah !
Quote from: 427heaven on March 20, 2020, 02:34:45 PM
No its real, and has been caught on camera a few times. Trying to capture those images and post here is seemingly like me trying to learn Chinese. :-[
Quote from: Side-Oilers on March 19, 2020, 10:47:09 PM
I'll bet the interior still smells like victory, however. Burned rubber is a fine odor, IMO.
Do we need a cologne for men called 'Burnt Rubber'?
QuoteDo we need a cologne for men called 'Burnt Rubber'?
You would probably sell quite a bit until the ladies got a whiff... ;D
TOB
I got to hand it to Tony- I have never done a burn out that looked like that, I cant tell if its burning out or blowing up. ;D
Working on the canned vintage air for the concours crowd.
Ince done will start on Burnt Rubber Cologne as THEY will never experience that smell. It impossible by pushing a car on off a trailer. Closest smell to THEM would be burnt croissants...lmao !
Quote from: The Going Thing on March 20, 2020, 02:59:27 PM
Quote from: Side-Oilers on March 19, 2020, 10:47:09 PM
I'll bet the interior still smells like victory, however. Burned rubber is a fine odor, IMO.
Do we need a cologne for men called 'Burnt Rubber'?
That was a very memorable burn out...to this day it is known by all as the $2,000 burn out....ask me why...
Quote from: 427heaven on March 20, 2020, 06:18:25 PM
I got to hand it to Tony- I have never done a burn out that looked like that, I cant tell if its burning out or blowing up. ;D
Took my car car out to possibly dust off some viruses, streets are very empty so are the freeways.A special shoutout to our military on this special holiday remembering their courage,bravery, and the willingness to lay it all on the line. Same can be said for all those front liners helping keep some form of normalcy for the 10s of millions hunkered down hoping we can get some resolution to this world wide problem. Strange when you take your pride and joy for a spin in the middle of a pandemic and a sacred holiday for those that gave all, what thoughts cross your mind. Stay safe, keep your distance from other people and other cars as you pass them like they are tied to a tree stump. Still not finished with it, but at least it moves down the road like a land locked missile. :)
Here we go again, the left coast is being battered by the virus, have friends layed up in skilled nursing homes set up just to handle the cases that are choking our hospital systems. Doesnt seem so fun to take my ride out for a spin or tinker around on it when others are laid up with moon suits on. Anyways back to the cars, Did ANY of the 67s get deluxe wheel well trim from the factory or is that an owner installed (extra).
Quote from: 427heaven on July 24, 2020, 08:54:15 AM
Here we go again, the left coast is being battered by the virus, have friends layed up in skilled nursing homes set up just to handle the cases that are choking our hospital systems. Doesnt seem so fun to take my ride out for a spin or tinker around on it when others are laid up with moon suits on. Anyways back to the cars, Did ANY of the 67s get deluxe wheel well trim from the factory or is that an owner installed (extra).
To my understanding - none of the production run Shelby's. (might have been on development/prototypes)
Just go out and blow off some steam
Tomorrow is not promised
Quote from: 427heaven on July 24, 2020, 08:54:15 AM
Here we go again, the left coast is being battered by the virus, have friends layed up in skilled nursing homes set up just to handle the cases that are choking our hospital systems. Doesnt seem so fun to take my ride out for a spin or tinker around on it when others are laid up with moon suits on. Anyways back to the cars, Did ANY of the 67s get deluxe wheel well trim from the factory or is that an owner installed (extra).
Hold on Tony!>>>>> Not only is Florida not listening to safety guidelines and having outa control virus spikes , now you need to worry about a mega hurricane barreling down on you. BE SAFE!!!
The rioting left are responsible for the spike, not opening businesses who follow guidelines. Everyone who is susceptible is going to get this. It's certainly not the killer they claimed and most who contract it are asymptomatic.
Commies!
Quote from: The Going Thing on August 01, 2020, 02:17:52 AM
The rioting left are responsible for the spike, not opening businesses who follow guidelines. Everyone who is susceptible is going to get this. It's certainly not the killer they claimed and most who contract it are asymptomatic.
Buenos Dias Señor
We have saying when facing trouble :
¡que Dios nos coja confesados!
Quote from: 427heaven on July 31, 2020, 10:20:28 PM
Hold on Tony!>>>>> Not only is Florida not listening to safety guidelines and having outa control virus spikes , now you need to worry about a mega hurricane barreling down on you. BE SAFE!!!
Back to the topic at hand....have you hit 176 MPH ?????
Quote from: The Going Thing on August 01, 2020, 02:17:52 AM
The rioting left are responsible for the spike, not opening businesses who follow guidelines. Everyone who is susceptible is going to get this. It's certainly not the killer they claimed and most who contract it are asymptomatic.
Try telling that minimize observation to the family's of the people who have died because of Covid 19 and see how you feel about it then .
Quote from: Bob Gaines on August 01, 2020, 01:17:31 PM
Quote from: The Going Thing on August 01, 2020, 02:17:52 AM
The rioting left are responsible for the spike, not opening businesses who follow guidelines. Everyone who is susceptible is going to get this. It's certainly not the killer they claimed and most who contract it are asymptomatic.
Try telling that minimize observation to the family's of the people who have died because of Covid 19 and see how you feel about it then .
Well, are you up in arms because Pneumonia and the common flu far exceeded Covid?
Every life matters to me. However, I am not going to cower at home. I am not minimizing any death. I feel for those that lost loved ones.
The numbers are inflated, and the gloom and doom is not what they scared the hell out of people with. Of course the only family member I lost was in NY and because that Idiot Cuomo put prisoners in elderly homes to recover.
You know what I was saying, and I am thankful it wasn't what they predicted. Remember, I served this nation and I love her more than anything.
I'm not out trying to destroy our heritage and institute socialism like these worthless anarchist. They want to jail people for not wearing mask but if you're Antifa or a rioter the Dems give you free rein with their blessing. By all means lets let them act out like spoiled hateful children while those in the age groups. Rioting is not protected under the 1st amendment.
Sorry you read something into what I said that wasn't there. There's no one that will be more enthralled when the world returns to some semblance of normality. God speed.
Since the entire planet is dealing with a pandemic. it might be better to have its own thread for such topic... Not my car thread. Thanks in advance!
You mean the "ghost car" ? This thread was about 65 pages long on the old forum. If you can use a cell phone you can sure the hell post pictures. It's really not that hard.
Quote from: FL SAAC on August 01, 2020, 08:19:53 AM
Back to the topic at hand....have you hit 176 MPH ?????
My car gets to about 140 - 145mph quickly and easily but I have nothing else to go buy except the speedo, which maxes out in that range. It is in street trim- Tires, gearing, stance, NO REAL roll bar , drive shaft safety loop, original wheels etc. I dont feel with this set up it would be wise to push it much further until more safety enhancements are installed. I am making progress, albeit slow progress. :)
Since you had initially stated in your original mission statement "goal 176 MPHs" Inquiring minds wanted to know.
It is achievable with the proper combination.
Not that we support or condone (We have never ever broken the posted speed limit and we have Mrs Cleaver as our witness) anyone to exceed any posted speed limits
But if it should happen be aware of all the grannies, pansies, Sunday drivers, the occasional trailer queens out on the roads being loaded into trailers (lmao)
Wishing you much success on your project and remember....like John says be happy !
Quote from: 427heaven on August 05, 2020, 11:02:40 AM
Quote from: FL SAAC on August 01, 2020, 08:19:53 AM
Back to the topic at hand....have you hit 176 MPH ?????
My car gets to about 140 - 145mph quickly and easily but I have nothing else to go buy except the speedo, which maxes out in that range. It is in street trim- Tires, gearing, stance, NO REAL roll bar , drive shaft safety loop, original wheels etc. I dont feel with this set up it would be wise to push it much further until more safety enhancements are installed. I am making progress, albeit slow progress. :)
No Children, Grandmas, Household pets, or Men with underdeveloped sacs were any where near us at the time of testing. ;D No laws were broken it was a dedicated stretch of land for testing performance vehicles. 176 MPH is the number I want to achieve, now its a matter of how the ORIGINAL car was set up to replicate that, but if I need to to upgrade safety equipment to get there I see that as no harm no foul. I am not a young dude anymore... Safety First!
Follow your dreams, life is short and we have no do overs
Quote from: 427heaven on August 05, 2020, 01:35:57 PM
No Children, Grandmas, Household pets, or Men with underdeveloped sacs were any where near us at the time of testing. ;D No laws were broken it was a dedicated stretch of land for testing performance vehicles. 176 MPH is the number I want to achieve, now its a matter of how the ORIGINAL car was set up to replicate that, but if I need to to upgrade safety equipment to get there I see that as no harm no foul. I am not a young dude anymore... Safety First!
Your right Tony we all need to follow our dreams. At least a few of us actually drive or race our automotive dreams, using them as they were intended to be used. Viruses or not its great to get out and listen and feel how things were 50 plus years ago, where you could feel, smell, listen to automotive nirvana. If your feeling depressed just slip in behind the wheel and go for a spin you will be feeling better in no time. These cars are not todays marsh mellow cars that isolate you from the driving experience, but enhance every aspect of driving including money flying out your wallet for gas station visits.
+ 1 let me share with you something, people ask me how many m.p.g. do our 69 shelbys get?
Truthfully I don't know, but I can tell you that every 1/2 hour they drink 1/4 of a tank of premium and supplements. Oh and it doesnt matter if they are idling still or going 70 m.p.h.
1/4 of a tank every half hour, always looking at my watch as I mark it once they start...welcome to America the greatest country in this world !
Quote from: 427heaven on August 19, 2020, 05:59:13 PM
Your right Tony we all need to follow our dreams. At least a few of us actually drive or race our automotive dreams, using them as they were intended to be used. Viruses or not its great to get out and listen and feel how things were 50 plus years ago, where you could feel, smell, listen to automotive nirvana. If your feeling depressed just slip in behind the wheel and go for a spin you will be feeling better in no time. These cars are not todays marsh mellow cars that isolate you from the driving experience, but enhance every aspect of driving including money flying out your wallet for gas station visits.
Tell them it doesn't matter the miles per gallon but the fun per gallon... :)
TOB
+1 it's a land yacht
Quote from: TOBKOB on August 20, 2020, 08:49:05 AM
Tell them it doesn't matter the miles per gallon but the fun per gallon... :)
TOB
Reminds me of my friends offshore race boat, I said, oh my gawd how much hi test are you putting in? He said 250 gallons :o I said Daaamn... He just smiled and said that's part of owning one of these things. More smiles per gallon then you can shake a stick at. ;)
Anyone have any experience with 200 mph tires? Ultra high performance tires seem to be rated at 149 mph. Maybe some have a Ferrari-Porsche or some other car that has been better then 149mph? Any real life experiences would be appreciated- Thanks in advance...
11 pages not one photo - ::)
They were lost to 1.0, there were pictures posted and dont know how to easily post them. Maybe a little tutorial ?
Quote from: 427heaven on November 14, 2020, 09:43:26 AM
Anyone have any experience with 200 mph tires? Ultra high performance tires seem to be rated at 149 mph. Maybe some have a Ferrari-Porsche or some other car that has been better then 149mph? Any real life experiences would be appreciated- Thanks in advance...
I just did over dozen passes at over 170 mph this weekend in my 911 turbo Porsche on Toyo R888's at a 1/2 mile event ,it's the tire of choice here & plenty of guys doing over 200 mph ,this poor cammed Camaro didn't no what hit him 😂
https://youtu.be/j3tjphdAvN8
Thanks for the real world experience with those tires at that speed. That was a thrill watching the telemetry and driver... and car, going thru its paces. Much appreciated-
Quote from: 427heaven on November 16, 2020, 07:18:21 PM
Thanks for the real world experience with those tires at that speed. That was a thrill watching the telemetry and driver... and car, going thru its paces. Much appreciated-
If you can go that fast you should be able to use the "attachments and other options" icon in the post reply box to post photo's of your Shelby.
Quote from: 427hunter on November 16, 2020, 10:09:23 PM
If you can go that fast you should be able to use the "attachments and other options" icon in the post reply box to post photo's of your Shelby.
See 1st attached image, red arrow - click on this to expand an reveal more tools
2nd attachment green arrow is where you go to navigate to where in your computer the images that you want to attach.
Purple arrow is where you click to add a second, third or fourth image. You can only attach 1-4 image per reply, more than that you need to do another reply and add the additional image(s) to that post.
Once you have attached the image(s) click on the "POST" button at the lower right - orange arrow.
Hope this helps...
Thanks JD... You are always a positive influence on here. Much appreciated- :)
As of recent discussion it has been mentioned that my car was NEVER the BLUE LADY! I concur it has always been BLUE CHEER! :-[ Well its a cheery enough name just not sure I like it. After nearly taking a 47 year nap it is almost ready to have some pictures taken of it. I am not too good with taking pics and I was not really proud to show how it looked when I got it, but soon enough I will get some help posting pics of a completed car. My vision is to bring it back to nearly the way the car ran in its first couple of years of life... That was basically looking original with a shot of testosterone under the hood. Currently I seem to have the mechanical things taken care of with the 500+ HP FE but need little detail items to be taken care of. Not holding out on pics just want to present it as a completed car. Again many thanks to all that have helped, with the transformation of a forgotten Beauty! :)
Looking forward to its unveiling.
Can't want to see it, I think that you live in my city, if you need help with photo's let me know.
Cheers, Doug
It's your show and you run it on your schedule
When you are ready, you shoot
Quote from: 427heaven on February 10, 2021, 09:21:24 AM
As of recent discussion it has been mentioned that my car was NEVER the BLUE LADY! I concur it has always been BLUE CHEER! :-[ Well its a cheery enough name just not sure I like it. After nearly taking a 47 year nap it is almost ready to have some pictures taken of it. I am not too good with taking pics and I was not really proud to show how it looked when I got it, but soon enough I will get some help posting pics of a completed car. My vision is to bring it back to nearly the way the car ran in its first couple of years of life... That was basically looking original with a shot of testosterone under the hood. Currently I seem to have the mechanical things taken care of with the 500+ HP FE but need little detail items to be taken care of. Not holding out on pics just want to present it as a completed car. Again many thanks to all that have helped, with the transformation of a forgotten Beauty! :)
Thanks guys for the positivity... Doug I will ask you for some help when I get there, much appreciated, yes at the top of Copper Hill ;) Tony- you are an inspiration- Keep up the great life style down in Margaritaville, and to all the others that have helped me with my land locked rocket there will be a round of libations for all! Hope to see you guys soon as when we get past the worst pandemic of our lifetime. BE SAFE!
A little update from today, I took it out to a little cars and coffee event, seems America is open for business again. Out of approx. 500 people I was the only one wearing a mask, oh well when you loose some family and friends to something like a virus one tends to err on the side of caution. Been a strange year and a half or so but good to see people I had not seen in a very long time. It was mentioned a couple of times looks like you have a few things to finish? That I do ...but glad I was able to see some new things besides the same old same old, be safe and get em out and enjoy them!
so it was you....
Quote from: 427heaven on May 23, 2021, 08:54:52 PM
A little update from today, I took it out to a little cars and coffee event, seems America is open for business again. Out of approx. 500 people I was the only one wearing a mask, oh well when you loose some family and friends to something like a virus one tends to err on the side of caution. Been a strange year and a half or so but good to see people I had not seen in a very long time. It was mentioned a couple of times looks like you have a few things to finish? That I do ...but glad I was able to see some new things besides the same old same old, be safe and get em out and enjoy them!
Well it has been a long while to post any new news on my project, but the upholstery is now nearing completion and should be ready for some completed car type cruising. Something that has taken the better part of 50 years from its glory days, a few items here and there and it will be ready for its coming out party! No not that kind... the other kind. Keep you posted.
Never give up, little by little does the trick
Thanks Tony- How are things in Margaritaville? Hospital beds in the ICU are full again, out on the left coast. Be safe out there! Like the keepin it positive posts, and pics... keep them coming.
I located my oil pressure and amp gauges that had been misplaced, but are now reunited and hanging under the dash again since being removed in 1971. :-\ Question I have is where are the 2 heavy gauge wires connect to? The alternator or the solenoid? Also do those 2 wires hide under the cowl brace or route around the shock tower? Thanks in advance-
Quote from: 427heaven on October 16, 2021, 09:34:21 PM
I located my oil pressure and amp gauges that had been misplaced, but are now reunited and hanging under the dash again since being removed in 1971. :-\ Question I have is where are the 2 heavy gauge wires connect to? The alternator or the solenoid? Also do those 2 wires hide under the cowl brace or route around the shock tower? Thanks in advance-
It has been a while since you asked about a factory restoration question.Glad to help. The 10 gauge red wire goes on the positive battery cable side of the solenoid. The black wire goes to the terminal block. The two wires route along and under the export brace then into the firewall.
Bob- As always it is much appreciated for a correct or original type answer. Got the hot lead but the black lead, terminal block? - Fuse block? Please advise.
Quote from: 427heaven on October 16, 2021, 10:01:41 PM
Bob- As always it is much appreciated for a correct or original type answer. Got the hot lead but the black lead, terminal block? - Fuse block? Please advise.
Here is a picture from Brandas website . They carry a pretty exact replca in case yours is missing.
I am pretty sure I have one in a box somewhere, I didnt know what it was for. :-[
There should be two holes in the apron where it was mounted between the solenoid and the battery. it was in a place that was easily bumped when moving a battery so many of them are broken or replaced with a different looking service version.
Thats a VERY tight fit on a Big Block car, right there! . I see where it goes, as always Thanks for the correct placement of things. ;)
Here is a useful illustration that Branda has posted on their website.
Quote from: 427heaven on September 30, 2021, 08:43:58 PM
Thanks Tony- How are things in Margaritaville? Hospital beds in the ICU are full again, out on the left coast. Be safe out there! Like the keepin it positive posts, and pics... keep them coming.
See you and sleeping beauty are progressing, doing well. Keep plugging away !
Thanks guys for the assistance with correctness, and the positive influence over the last couple of years, which have been very difficult on many of us and loved ones. Getting pretty damn close now ... One more question do the shoulder harness ends fit in the main seat belts or am I missing some parts?
Quote from: 427heaven on October 18, 2021, 06:13:23 PM
Thanks guys for the assistance with correctness, and the positive influence over the last couple of years, which have been very difficult on many of us and loved ones. Getting pretty damn close now ... One more question do the shoulder harness ends fit in the main seat belts or am I missing some parts?
The 67 Shelby shoulder harness does not fit in a buckle. The harness is secured to the floor on both sides in the same place as the front lap belts. Your arms fit through each right and left loop. The inertia reel keeps you from leaning forward in a quick stop by the mechanism latching at anything more then a slow deliberate pull of the harness.
That was the only place I could mount them, seemed wrong, but my race car belts have the shoulder harness, regular center belt, and the submarine belt all joint in the middle with a cam lock. Seemed weird that a customer back then would have to kinda wind into them, guess thats just the way it was. Thanks again for your guidance.
A couple more original technical questions because I would like it to appear correct. Did the ground block require a ground strap to the block for the gauges to work properly or did the block ground itself to the chassis thru the mounting bolts.? Also what connection was used to mount the copper oil pressure tubing to the top of the oil filter housing something special or a standard brass T fitting? Lastly the gauges were illuminated with a nasty looking green painted bulbs, would a newer version of an LED bulb illuminate better and look better so one would not have to squint to read the gauges? Getting oooh so close now after sitting 51 years, all the boxes and containers that the car came home in are just about empty!!! THANKS TO ALL FOR THE HELP. :D
Quote from: 427heaven on October 24, 2021, 11:00:34 AM
A couple more original technical questions because I would like it to appear correct. Did the ground block require a ground strap to the block for the gauges to work properly or did the block ground itself to the chassis thru the mounting bolts.? Also what connection was used to mount the copper oil pressure tubing to the top of the oil filter housing something special or a standard brass T fitting? Lastly the gauges were illuminated with a nasty looking green painted bulbs, would a newer version of an LED bulb illuminate better and look better so one would not have to squint to read the gauges? Getting oooh so close now after sitting 51 years, all the boxes and containers that the car came home in are just about empty!!! THANKS TO ALL FOR THE HELP. :D
There are two cabled grounds to the block. The negative battery cable is bolted along with a star washer into the threaded boss on the front passenger side of the block below the head . Another smaller gauge cable is bolted to the rear of the passenger side head and on to the firewall with a small sheet metal screw like what holds the regulator . The screw uses a small star washer for better contact. No copper line was used from the factory only nylon. The copper is your choice but will look like a modification. From the factory a special steel compression fitting plated silver was used to mount the nylon tube to the top of the oil filter adapter. The same will work with copper. Your choice to change out the factory green bulbs with brighter.
Thanks Bob for that info... So the oil line fitting was a Shelby looking part, or was an auto part sourced item?
Quote from: 427heaven on October 24, 2021, 02:59:49 PM
Thanks Bob for that info... So the oil line fitting was a Shelby looking part, or was an auto part sourced item?
It was a Stewart Warner item that came with the gauges Shelby bought for the cars.
Just plate the brass one silver and be done with it. I don't think anyone except a well informed enthusiast will know the difference.
Wishing everyone a Happy Holidays ,- Merry Christmas and be safe out there. My car is finally nearing completion so I would like to offer a very big Thank You to all that have offered a helping hand in many different ways! Could someone PM me on how to post pictures for someone that doesnt do that stuff too often.
Quote from: 427heaven on December 05, 2021, 07:48:55 PM
Wishing everyone a Happy Holidays ,- Merry Christmas and be safe out there. My car is finally nearing completion so I would like to offer a very big Thank You to all that have offered a helping hand in many different ways! Could someone PM me on how to post pictures for someone that doesnt do that stuff too often.
Look back at page 11, post #162 and click on the images, that steps you through one of the ways to post images...
Thanks JD your always helpful... ;)
Back at ya !
Quote from: 427heaven on December 05, 2021, 07:48:55 PM
Wishing everyone a Happy Holidays ,- Merry Christmas and be safe out there. My car is finally nearing completion so I would like to offer a very big Thank You to all that have offered a helping hand in many different ways! Could someone PM me on how to post pictures for someone that doesnt do that stuff too often.
So it's 2022, any updates ?
Thanks for asking Tony, it should be 100% assembled in a couple of weeks with pictures to follow. It has been a very long road, and am grateful for all the camaraderie from both the purists and the day 2 guys. It wont have the exhaust note of a motor boat, but one from FORDS finest, from back in the day.
Can't wait to see photos of your efforts.
Dave
Thanks Dave to you as well, cant wait to actually have a car to show worthy of some pictures. 1971 until the present is a long time to finally be whole again. Then to fine tune the combo for that 177 mph runs. :)
For some finishing touches... What color is the bottom Dust/ flywheel cover, on a 67 4 speed?
Bare... hope this image attaches
(https://www.saac.com/forum/gallery/29-260222204738.jpeg)
Beautiful picture, Thanks JD. ;)
I wanted to post some pics and talked to my computer privy friends and their statement was, that is the longest most difficult process they had ever heard of to post pictures. I dont know, there are some things I let more knowledgeable people look at for me. The more advanced computer folks say it should be a 1-2 send process, have a few watching the whole process to see if it can be made easier for those of us that have difficulty with modern things! Thanks from the few... that need a little simpler process for these things.- :-[
Quote from: 427heaven on March 12, 2022, 10:17:27 AM
I wanted to post some pics and talked to my computer privy friends and their statement was, that is the longest most difficult process they had ever heard of to post pictures. I dont know, there are some things I let more knowledgeable people look at for me. The more advanced computer folks say it should be a 1-2 send process, have a few watching the whole process to see if it can be made easier for those of us that have difficulty with modern things! Thanks from the few... that need a little simpler process for these things.- :-[
Thanks for this thread and updates on your car !
Not to side track this, but are you referring to posting a photo on the forum ? It was a one step process to attach an image to a
post, others have given instructions to post through the gallery, but I and others agree there are too many steps. there are a
couple of threads concerning the "upload folder is full" thing, the problem has been with us since the end of February, Patience
is a virtue, I guess ::)
Mike
Does anyone know if someone is making an accurate reproduction of the original or close in appearance exhaust tips for the 67s that are using larger tubing like 2 1/4 or 2 1/2 as always grateful for the help.
Quote from: 427heaven on April 11, 2022, 09:33:51 PM
Does anyone know if someone is making an accurate reproduction of the original or close in appearance exhaust tips for the 67s that are using larger tubing like 2 1/4 or 2 1/2 as always grateful for the help.
As far as I know you have to make them yourself. I did some about 15 years ago and it wasn't that hard .Of course you use a original to go by. I gave the dimensions to the muffler shop and they swedged the pipe down from 3 inch to 2 1/2 . That is not a drastic reduction. They cut the angle and I took the pipe to the chromer.
Thanks BOB, those were some of my concerns. :-\
427heaven. Our cars have been Sleeping for nearly the same amount of time. Since 1971 for me. Into the exhaust shop on Wednesday. 3 inch all the way with Shelby like tips. We'll see how it comes out. Will try to share photos.
482 tunnelport 4 speed. 😀
Love to see some pictures of it... Best of luck!
See if this works!(//)
I guess the OLD DOG can still learn some new tricks!!! :)
Superb keep up the great work !
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Thanks Tony, to you and yours- ;)
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So are we seeing actual images of the "Sleeping Beauty" ??
Congrat's 427Heaven!
Well looks good whatever car it is!
Yes, very nice!
Dave
Thanks JD-DAVE... and others for the well wishes on this long journey. I finally learned how to post pictures so I am kinda Happy about that. It took a nap back in 1971 because of a street racing incident, during the Nixon era and became whole again 50 years later during the Biden era. I will try to post some pics of some of its journey but a few pictures were posted on 1.0 and were lost. When I first took ownership it had Black interior, but smelled like Bong water, cigarettes, found some roach clips, roaches- not the bug variety, womens panties and a few other interesting items. So I said self AHHH Hell No, that was from its previous life it now has fresh parchment interior and smells like a new car. I saved the Original interior for those who would cry foul. Oh if that car could talk of where it had been and what they were doing in its brief 5 year life. ;D Anyways thats the updates for now, and for some that thought it was a Unicorn- Pictures will prove its back together again!
She looks great. Hope you have many years of great drives.
Greek
Thanks Greek... The pictures are kinda skattered so here is a little newer[img pic. Here goes-
That is one fantastic Shelby! And yes, the cars do carry a collection of memories held in their chassis metaphorically speaking of course.
Sled- Thanks for the compliment... When it came home in crates and boxes I could envision its completed looks but didnt really know hoe long it would be before I wasnt embarrassed to bring it out. Finally I can post some pictures and updates.
It takes time, 427. My Hertz as I am want to say a little too often, survived three marriages. In 2012 I finally got my act together after the great restoration that Klutt did at Legendary and had the rest of the car put together, some of it by my own hands for better or worse. So I've made some of my own road memories with the car though on the odd night, when the moon is full and I am sitting behind the wheel alone in my garage with the engine off, I can hear the Pacific Ocean calling. The old Dorian Gray needs to revisit the Pacific One some day. I can imagine renting a trailer and getting her out there to drive the road. And the various canyon ways.
Great job on Sleeping Beauty! I didn't find anything more interesting in my KR than a #2 pencil and an old candy wrapper.
Looking good there. Might consider posting a "before picture" since it might motivate others and remind you even how far you've gotten.
Just a thought :)
Hello Jeff- I wanted to extend a VERY special shout out and THANK YOU, for when you first laid eyes on my bucket O bolts so many years ago! It really was because of your input that helped me set this whole thing in motion. Thanks my friend... Hope all is well with you and yours!!! ;)
Can anyone of the rotor heads in the forum identify what appears to be Hiller12E copter in the background of answer #219 pic?
Paul L
That Bubble Copter was /is apparently like the one in MASH I was told. Thats some scary machinery, I would not want to be more then 10 feet off the ground in that contraption. :-\
Thanks, just ask the military wounded if they enjoyed the helicopter ride to the field hospital. They provide a lot of necessary uses that can only be done them. When your Shelby leaves the road and rolls up into a ball, the helicopter ride with the EMTs to medical help will seem heavenly
Paul L
You've went ALot more on your sleeping Beauty than I did on mine. (Sleeping since 70 71)
Still, I think it would be great for them to meet someday!
You did a great job.
Looking Good!
Is that a slanted grille on your car '427Heaven'?
It seems a bit late for you VIN number.
Any engine photos?
Beautiful car, awesome job, congrats!!
Thanks to all that have helped me along the way, the compliments, well wishes, and the few that had some not so positive things to say in its looong journey back again. I have a soft spot for cars/people that have been neglected, overlooked, and kicked to the curb, I just cant help myself, There is an accomplishment that many overlook as a real P O S, even the wife has told me over the years..... OH no not another one, :-[ then when they begin to be whole again I get that OH thats Beautiful was that the one you brought home in boxes? ;D. More pictures to follow.
^^^ I like your philosophy and taste in cars.
Thanks Van..... Well wishes to you and yours, may you have some smoother roads to travel on in the future. If it gets bumpy hold on tight and pull the belts even tighter! Many thanks on our banter / conversations over the years... Best wishes ALWAYS!
It has been a little while since anything to post about SHELBYS. So now that the weather has cooled off and the Holidays are upon us it is time to turn some attention to our love of cars and leave some of lifes problems behind. It has been 51 years since my car was a running, driving, complete car that someone could be proud to say thats my car. Many dont mind the patina look and thats ok, but I prefer the shiny finished look. Most ALL of my storage boxes and containers are empty now with all the parts put back on the car, which I am so happy about... Taking small bites and baby steps over the last few years to get it back together. Now its time to get the little bugs and details worked out to get to the original goal of 177 mph besting the Super Snakes 175mph with OL SHELL driving. The SS had 427 HR power I think I can get there with 427 MR power. Looking forward to being the Fastest Original 1967. Thank You to all that have helped me along the way it is getting pretty close to trying out some top speed runs! :D
First let me congratulate you on your consistency and perseverance. Job well done (although you and I know it's never done) you deserve a lot of merit. Keep up the good work and congratulations !
Quote from: 427heaven on November 30, 2022, 09:37:17 AM
It has been a little while since anything to post about SHELBYS. So now that the weather has cooled off and the Holidays are upon us it is time to turn some attention to our love of cars and leave some of lifes problems behind. It has been 51 years since my car was a running, driving, complete car that someone could be proud to say thats my car. Many dont mind the patina look and thats ok, but I prefer the shiny finished look. Most ALL of my storage boxes and containers are empty now with all the parts put back on the car, which I am so happy about... Taking small bites and baby steps over the last few years to get it back together. Now its time to get the little bugs and details worked out to get to the original goal of 177 mph besting the Super Snakes 175mph with OL SHELL driving. The SS had 427 HR power I think I can get there with 427 MR power. Looking forward to being the Fastest Original 1967. Thank You to all that have helped me along the way it is getting pretty close to trying out some top speed runs! :D
Bitchin car, and a big congrats on persevering and getting 'er done!
Let us know how the top speed test runs go. And how she feels at those speeds.
What wheels and tires are you planning to use?
Roy
Will you be using a front spoiler? If so, is it the Boss 302 style?
Thanks Tony, Van, Roy, for the support..... The next items will be to make sure a wheel doesnt come apart, or blow a tire, or install a drive shaft safety loop, and cage, and a whole bunch of other stuff just to do it one time or maybe a couple times. Getting older now and am not Mario Andretti so need to do it properly. Will probably run steel wheels and race tires like the NASCAR boys run, rated at 200 mph plus.
I am going to try to go to some of the larger gatherings around the BJ auctions. Hope to see a few of you and enjoy the general good vibe of auction week!
Since I am not too good with picture taking, photos were lost to the 1.0 version of this site. Here is a picture of its last outing and hope to have some more... as summer arrives. Life has gotten in the way of car related items but at least it is a complete car as I write this. Had a clutch leg operation that prevents driving the car but hope to be able to drive it soon. It is streetable and will try to ease into making it safe for some of those much faster speeds as intended. Be well!
Quote from: 427heaven on May 10, 2023, 11:02:23 AM
Since I am not too good with picture taking, photos were lost to the 1.0 version of this site. Here is a picture of its last outing and hope to have some more... as summer arrives. Life has gotten in the way of car related items but at least it is a complete car as I write this. Had a clutch leg operation that prevents driving the car but hope to be able to drive it soon. It is streetable and will try to ease into making it safe for some of those much faster speeds as intended. Be well!
Very nice keep them coming, !
Quote from: 427heaven on May 10, 2023, 11:02:23 AM
Since I am not too good with picture taking, photos were lost to the 1.0 version of this site. Here is a picture of its last outing and hope to have some more... as summer arrives. Life has gotten in the way of car related items but at least it is a complete car as I write this. Had a clutch leg operation that prevents driving the car but hope to be able to drive it soon. It is streetable and will try to ease into making it safe for some of those much faster speeds as intended. Be well!
Car's looking really good, get the left leg up to speed and have at it ;-)
I know if a gentleman and his son that have been working on a 1967 GT500 since 1978....still going at it
"slow and steady wins the race"
Did ANY 1967 SHELBYS come from Shelby American with factory tinted SUN X glass, depending on where they were to be shipped to?
Quote from: 427heaven on August 25, 2023, 11:24:50 AM
Did ANY 1967 SHELBYS come from Shelby American with factory tinted SUN X glass, depending on where they were to be shipped to?
Rear window on all fastbacks were tinted, Ford Factory A/C optioned cars (and Shelby's with A/C) got tinted windows.
Not sure if there was an option to get factory tinted without A/C - but that would not likely to have been on a car that was ordered from Ford to be a Shelby.
Quote from: JD on August 25, 2023, 11:51:28 AM
Quote from: 427heaven on August 25, 2023, 11:24:50 AM
Did ANY 1967 SHELBYS come from Shelby American with factory tinted SUN X glass, depending on where they were to be shipped to?
Rear window on all fastbacks were tinted, Ford Factory A/C optioned cars (and Shelby's with A/C) got tinted windows.
Not sure if there was an option to get factory tinted without A/C - but that would not likely to have been on a car that was ordered from Ford to be a Shelby.
Yes there was a option to get tinted even if no A/C but I'm about 99% sure no 67 Shelby's came that way given it would have required a extra special order . Dave Mathews would know for sure .
Thanks JD- BOB for the answers. So I will figure that the 1967 Shelbys that have this elusive sun x glass was owner additions. No dealer added or any other BS stories?
Quote from: 427heaven on September 01, 2023, 08:55:30 PM
Thanks JD- BOB for the answers. So I will figure that the 1967 Shelbys that have this elusive sun x glass was owner additions. No dealer added or any other BS stories?
It is common for a replacement windshield to be tinted as most replacement only come that way or at least not much difference in price that made it a common choice. Date codes in glass can maybe help explain circumstance. Of course all windows would be tinted on a tinted window car not just front and rear glass (rear always tinted).
The front and rear glass have always been tinted I believe as standard wasnt it?, I am more interested in, if the side glass sun x was an option or not...
'67 Shelby's without A/C (to my understanding) did not have any kind of front tint, also no tint (dazzle) strip across the top - clear glass top to bottom, left to right.
I took tinted windshield (replacement) that also had a tint strip across the top out of the car I had and installed the "correct" clear glass.
Quote from: 427heaven on September 01, 2023, 09:35:52 PM
The front and rear glass have always been tinted I believe as standard wasnt it?, I am more interested in, if the side glass sun x was an option or not...
Front windshield side glass were typically clear on a 67 Shelby . My point was that when a clear front windshield is replaced that the replacement is typically tinted , The back glass is always tinted regardless. Is your side glass tinted?
No, mine are clear and original to the car but I have some sun x glass that a few buddies want for their cars. I like the tinted look of them, and wondered if ANY came that way from back in the day, and possibly install them?
Quote from: 427heaven on September 01, 2023, 11:22:40 PM
No, mine are clear and original to the car but I have some sun x glass that a few buddies want for their cars. I like the tinted look of them, and wondered if ANY came that way from back in the day, and possibly install them?
I would stay with clear which is factory original if it were my car but It's not. It's your car so do what you want .
Thanks BOB... I will put them in one of my other cars. They are not seen very often so thought they might be a cool thing,,, Then again maybe not- :-[
Here we are Halloween 2023..... After a long slumber decided to take it out and stretch its legs today. I was looking for more of a treat, and other then a dead battery that was my sort of trick for the day. As the Hot summer winds down and leads into beautiful winter days out west a more focused driving enjoyment can be had. A few more things to assemble but mostly complete car, to relive the way it was back in the day! ;)
Quote from: 427heaven on October 31, 2023, 07:29:04 PM
Here we are Halloween 2023..... After a long slumber decided to take it out and stretch its legs today. I was looking for more of a treat, and other then a dead battery that was my sort of trick for the day. As the Hot summer winds down and leads into beautiful winter days out west a more focused driving enjoyment can be had. A few more things to assemble but mostly complete car, to relive the way it was back in the day! ;)
Certainly a treat, happy Halloween
Thanks Tony well wishes to you and yours... Heard the news, you guys got the 66 you were wanting, enjoy it like they were meant to be enjoyed!!! ;)
Quote from: 427heaven on October 31, 2023, 07:48:13 PM
Thanks Tony well wishes to you and yours... Heard the news, you guys got the 66 you were wanting, enjoy it like they were meant to be enjoyed!!! ;)
Thank you Sir !
Meant to be driven and it will be , shame about those low miles......
I was thinking about bringing in the new year with a late night dust off and tire tread reduction, around the neighborhood. Drive em and enjoy em as they were intended. Happy New Year Everyone!!!!! ;D
Quote from: 427heaven on December 28, 2023, 09:18:50 AM
I was thinking about bringing in the new year with a late night dust off and tire tread reduction, around the neighborhood. Drive em and enjoy em as they were intended. Happy New Year Everyone!!!!! ;D
Now that's a great idea !
And may I be the first to wish you a year of good health, lots of love, and plenty of laughter 2024
Quote from: 427heaven on December 28, 2023, 09:18:50 AM
I was thinking about bringing in the new year with a late night dust off and tire tread reduction, around the neighborhood. Drive em and enjoy em as they were intended. Happy New Year Everyone!!!!! ;D
I love that! From now on, when someone asks me what business I was in, before I retired, I'm going to say "I was a professional tire tread reducer." Now, it's just a hobby.
Thanks Tony-Van May the New Year bring in many Happy Times that our cars were a part of. As we get older enjoying every day is more and more important. Happy New Years to ALL!!! :)
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Quote from: 427heaven on October 31, 2023, 07:48:13 PM
Thanks Tony well wishes to you and yours... Heard the news, you guys got the 66 you were wanting, enjoy it like they were meant to be enjoyed!!! ;)
Thank you Sir !
Meant to be driven and it will be , shame about those low miles......
You can cure low miles! More Gas needed! Go drive.
John
I feel like Scotty telling Capt. Kirk...... I am giving her all I got CAPT. Maybe a little more 112 leaded to wake up the neighborhood.
Tires only have a certain life expectancy. You may as well get what you can out of them while you can.
You need to be all you can be. Make those pansies squeal.
Quote from: 427heaven on December 28, 2023, 04:24:44 PM
I feel like Scotty telling Capt. Kirk...... I am giving her all I got CAPT. Maybe a little more 112 leaded to wake up the neighborhood.
Sounds like you're just the guy to do it ;-) Bring in the new year!!
Thanks guys for the positive encouragement, Maybe we can start a sub catagory and have full patched members with the title T T R Tire tread reducers..... ;D
Quote from: 427heaven on December 29, 2023, 05:04:31 PM
Thanks guys for the positive encouragement, Maybe we can start a sub catagory and have full patched members with the title T T R Tire tread reducers..... ;D
and thank you for your positive and encouraging words, always makes me smile
here is me with a new found ( not kidding met him in N Florida, my wife thinks I'm nuts because I'm always starting conversations with strangers ) friend
I'm the slim ( 255 lbs ) one on the left with the big smile.....happiest of new years !
I was going thru some of my parts the other day and found a trap door/escape hatch bar pusher thingy, which mounts to the back of the seat. Was this an early late thing or did all Mustangs/Shelbys get those parts? Also did the 68s get the same thing?
believe it was only offered on secret agent cars....bond ...james...bond....
Take care !
Quote from: 427heaven on February 22, 2024, 05:52:29 PM
I was going thru some of my parts the other day and found a trap door/escape hatch bar pusher thingy, which mounts to the back of the seat. Was this an early late thing or did all Mustangs/Shelbys get those parts? Also did the 68s get the same thing?
it sounds like you are referring to the trap door rod that hooks to bracket attached to trunk inner structure meant to hold up the trap door. Yes it is typical for fastback with trap door.
Thanks BOB as always- Were the 67-68s the same part or did they differ... I want to have the correct one for my application. Secret agent man Antonio- Thanks for the laugh! ;)
Quote from: 427heaven on February 22, 2024, 07:39:32 PM
Thanks BOB as always- Were the 67-68s the same part or did they differ... I want to have the correct one for my application. Secret agent man Antonio- Thanks for the laugh! ;)
Same for 67/68 . 69/70 is different. Here is a link to NPD. https://www.npdlink.com/product/hinge-lock-trunk-access-door/152161? The original was zinc phosphate.
Goes on the right side there is a notch for it to fit in to hold the panel in the up position.
Thanks guys... That is the part I found in the bottom of a box, I thought what is this? I can adapt it for a cell phone holder possibly? Didnt know it is called a fold down seat kick stand, Good to know! ;D
Any new news about your top speed attempts?
Roy
Thanks for the question Roy... The car has been tucked away in the corner of the shop just waiting for some forward momentum. I had a leg surgery and some life items that seemed to get in the way, of getting things moving forward in a positive direction. It has been such a long arduous slog of getting this car back to where it is today that maybe I needed an automotive time out ...to get my MOJO back! Thanks again to everyone that has helped me on this car.