Hi---if anyone has any good experience how to dye would you kindly share it with us that by virtue of our jobs and education know nothing or very little----I would like to restore original dash pad in very good condition, however it does have some blemishes---also it is possible that at some point it might be cleaned with wrong cleaner [should you have knowledge on subject and wish to share I would be very thankful-, but please do not take this as opportunity to insult me, and my lack of knowledge ---thanks again ---- P.S. HOWEVER I DO CONCEDE BY READING BLOGS I HAVE HAD COME ACROSS SOME OF THE NICEST AND MOST CENCIERE HUMANOIDS---thanks again
Hi John,
I am getting ready to try VHT Penetrating Vinyl Dye Part No. SP942. From the Summit site they claim:
VHT's Penetrating Color Dye is not paint, but a true dye that permanently changes or restores the original color. It's extremely resistant to cracking or fading and can be used on soft or hard vinyl, plastic, and leather. Existing colors can be dyed to a lighter or darker color in a one-step process that's easy to apply and dries extremely fast.
Best of luck
Cory
Quote from: 6s1640 on October 10, 2018, 01:44:29 AM
Hi John,
I am getting ready to try VHT Penetrating Vinyl Dye Part No. SP942. From the Summit site they claim:
VHT's Penetrating Color Dye is not paint, but a true dye that permanently changes or restores the original color. It's extremely resistant to cracking or fading and can be used on soft or hard vinyl, plastic, and leather. Existing colors can be dyed to a lighter or darker color in a one-step process that's easy to apply and dries extremely fast.
Best of luck
Cory
I have never heard of that product. It sounds interesting .I hope you have positive results. Please report back.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on October 10, 2018, 01:58:25 AM
Quote from: 6s1640 on October 10, 2018, 01:44:29 AM
Hi John,
I am getting ready to try VHT Penetrating Vinyl Dye Part No. SP942. From the Summit site they claim:
VHT's Penetrating Color Dye is not paint, but a true dye that permanently changes or restores the original color. It's extremely resistant to cracking or fading and can be used on soft or hard vinyl, plastic, and leather. Existing colors can be dyed to a lighter or darker color in a one-step process that's easy to apply and dries extremely fast.
Best of luck
Cory
I have never heard of that product. It sounds interesting .I hope you have positive results. Please report back.
Hi Bob, I will report back. The product is in the mail. I was not able to buy locally.
Cory
I would be concerned if the VHT product does not include the correct prep. cleaner and adhesion promoter. I've used the SEM products and have had good results which have held up very well. Below is a video of the SEM products and the preparation methods leading up to coloring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYPr7ea_NfY
Thanks for help----apparently if part being painted has ever been exposed to silicon based cleaners such as armorall the dye will not adhere---is that a fact or just myth ----thanks again---please keep me posted as to your success John
I have used SEM products and they are outstanding. The results are excellent and more importantly, they have held up on parts dyed 15 years ago **It is critical that you get the SEM Vinyl Prep which will work best for your dash. (SEM also offers a Plastic Prep, you will want the Vinyl Prep).
My process would be to spray the dash with Simple Green cleaner and using a new plastic brush (like you would use on dishes in the kitchen) scrub the dash. Rinse off, dry the dash and repeat. I would spray, scrub and rinse the dash with Simple Green at least three times. Allow the dash to thoroughly dry for at least a day.
On the day your are ready to apply the SEM, put on a pair of latex gloves to keep the oils from your hands off the dash. Apply the SEM Vinyl Prep per instructions. Wipe off with paper towel. If there are signs of any dirt on the paper towel, give another application of the Vinyl Prep. Once your are satisfied the dash is completely clean, apply the SEM dye in the color of your choice.
Check the SEM website for locations that sell their products. I found mine at the local auto paint supplier.
Best of luck with your project. If you get the dash spotlessly clean and use the Prep, you should have excellent results.
Jeff
Thanks---you sound like pro---I will copy your instructions
Quote from: JWH on October 10, 2018, 01:19:16 PM
I have used SEM products and they are outstanding. The results are excellent and more importantly, they have held up on parts dyed 15 years ago **It is critical that you get the SEM Vinyl Prep which will work best for your dash. (SEM also offers a Plastic Prep, you will want the Vinyl Prep).
My process would be to spray the dash with Simple Green cleaner and using a new plastic brush (like you would use on dishes in the kitchen) scrub the dash. Rinse off, dry the dash and repeat. I would spray, scrub and rinse the dash with Simple Green at least three times. Allow the dash to thoroughly dry for at least a day.
On the day your are ready to apply the SEM, put on a pair of latex gloves to keep the oils from your hands off the dash. Apply the SEM Vinyl Prep per instructions. Wipe off with paper towel. If there are signs of any dirt on the paper towel, give another application of the Vinyl Prep. Once your are satisfied the dash is completely clean, apply the SEM dye in the color of your choice.
Check the SEM website for locations that sell their products. I found mine at the local auto paint supplier.
Best of luck with your project. If you get the dash spotlessly clean and use the Prep, you should have excellent results.
Jeff
Great info
Cory, vht can be found at Wesco. a couple of blocks from the pizza joint. I think vht just purchaced sem. not sure thou. phred
I have used the VHT vynil prep and dye stuff 20 years ago on my console and it still adheres. Used washing detergent (we call it Waschbenzin) to clean the vynil. A green cleaner is for sure better.
Hi----how soon do you expect to dye----I am sort of sold on SEM--however open to listen to good advice--thanks
Some site on the net, listed red as a color for '69-'70 Shelby models, but I don't think that is correct.
Has anyone tried dyeing seat belts?
for safety reasons, they don't recommend doing belts. phred
Quote from: papa scoops on October 11, 2018, 07:39:15 PM
for safety reasons, they don't recommend doing belts. phred
Hi Phred, Who is they? I am not sure it really matters. If your car has a none collapsible steering column and no shoulder harness, the lap belt is mostly notional for safety anyhow. It is still a good idea to wear, but if you are worried about safety, driving these old cars in not the best idea. When I was a little lad, I remember my grandmother holding me in the passenger front seat while I stood and looked out the windows. I had no seat belt on at all. Now days that will get you a ticket if not child endangerment.
Cory
FWIW, I seem to recall many years ago, RIT dye was used to re-dye seat belts. You're not going to be able to change color but just get the original color looking more like new. After dyeing, I'd sure as H*&& rinse them a few times to be sure that all excess dye was removed.
QuoteSome site on the net, listed red as a color for '69-'70 Shelby models, but I don't think that is correct.
Huh????
Some 69/70 Shelbys did have red interiors ;)
TOB
TOPKOP, I'm sure that it was a misinformed website owner that didn't get their info straight before publishing their info on these Shelbys. I, personally, really like the white interiors with white tops. I'm going for a '70 GT350 'vert with the 351 and an auto w/ a/c, in my choice of either Grabber Green, Gulfstream Aqua or maybe Silver Jade. I also like Candy Apple Red and Competition Red and Grabber Blue.
Cory, they say it breaks down the material, same reason we can't (don't) paint air bags. How much does it break down? it's kinda like peeing in the ocean, and it warms it up. yes, it does, but I don't think anything measureable. all about the liability. phred
Old-style dyes that were caustic over time, like the kind that was used to dye wool and silk for oriental rugs before and around the turn of the last century, would deteriorate the material and once that was found out, it was banned from those countries for use in the industry. I'd have to have someone prove to me, that the material in those seat belts would have their integrity compromised from dying them. It's not right: you can use seatbelts in a car for the life of the car, but a racing harness is no good, after 5 years. Whatever.
The reason for not dyeing seatbelts has nothing to do with safety, but the material the belts are made of. It will not adhere and is stiff.
-Keith
It will not change the color of the belts and it will make them stiff? Ok.
Hi---I followed Jeffs instruction and so far is holding very well and 100% uniform---in addition on installing dashpad mechanic had dirty hands and it got wiped out completely with no trace of discoloring---thanks--John
Hi, I just want to throw my two cents in! Over 40 years experience in the automotive field, just to give you a little background. When it comes to dying vinyl, SEMs has always worked best for me, VHT in the past had problems with adhering, They may be better now? Silicon is not your friend, it must be cleaned off thoroughly. Simple Green works great for this, but you must make sure all the cleaner (dried soap film) is washed off too, I usually final rinse with plain water and a dry off with air, terry towels and fiber towels will work but leave lint behide, so be sure to blow it off and let the item dry completely. Most vinyl dyes will wear off in high wear areas, like seats, non wear surfaces surfaces like dash, kick panels, package trays, etc. are great canidates for dying, on plastics I've found that "Sand Free" applied to a clean surface promotes better adhesion for the dye. Seat belts on the other hand should be rewebbed if they are faded, because they are compromised
in stregth. Plus if you do dye them, you take the chance of color transfer to clothes and possible other interior pieces. Hope this helps!