let's bow our heads in prayer...
NYT story from which the photo was lifted:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/09/us/california-fires.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
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Love that they saved the car.
How long till we read "firefighters save toy of 1%er while the earth burns due to climate change "?
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Glad they saved the car.....However if my house burned down while precious resources were allocated this way I might feel differently....I love my car ,but if it came down to my family home or my toy I think the choice would be pretty simple....I REALLY would miss the car though....
Quote from: 557 on November 10, 2018, 03:50:19 PM
Glad they saved the car.....However if my house burned down while precious resources were allocated this way I might feel differently....I love my car ,but if it came down to my family home or my toy I think the choice would be pretty simple....I REALLY would miss the car though....
Unfortunately there are/were likely other cars in the garages but the more modern cars would have key interlocks that would not allow them to be put into neutral and rolled out. Had to tell from the angle but the car in that location may not have remained untouched from the fire as it took all of the hose. They were likely having issues with the water supply or getting water (resources being what they often are in these situations) to the home so they were just confirming people were out and letting them burn.
if the crew is taking the time to roll a car away from the main structure it wasn't a choice between one or the other I'm pretty certain.
It's not a Shelby. Glad the car is still in one piece though.
Quote from: pchmotoho on November 11, 2018, 08:04:13 PM
It's not a Shelby. Glad the car is still in one piece though.
How do you know it's not real ?
(aside from a good guess because 9 out of 10 65/66 "shelby's" you see are fake)
Quote from: 427hunter on November 13, 2018, 10:04:43 AM
Quote from: pchmotoho on November 11, 2018, 08:04:13 PM
It's not a Shelby. Glad the car is still in one piece though.
How do you know it's not real ?
(aside from a good guess because 9 out of 10 65/66 "shelby's" you see are fake)
I saw it in person two days ago. Nice car but a its a C code fastback.
Quote from: pchmotoho on November 13, 2018, 10:17:31 AM
Quote from: 427hunter on November 13, 2018, 10:04:43 AM
Quote from: pchmotoho on November 11, 2018, 08:04:13 PM
It's not a Shelby. Glad the car is still in one piece though.
How do you know it's not real ?
(aside from a good guess because 9 out of 10 65/66 "shelby's" you see are fake)
I saw it in person two days ago. Nice car but a its a C code fastback.
Got it, glad it survived, did the guys house burn down?
The house burned. Small world, the closest fireman in the picture I went to high school with. J Speegle nailed it with his guess. Yes they were low on water and it was most assuredly not a choice between the house or the car. They couldn't do anything to save the house. Even if they had a full tank by the time they arrived the house was on it was on its deathbed.
For the fireman it was a choice of either turning around and dealing with the next problem or taking 30 seconds and saving the car. I'd say it was a good 30 seconds spent!!
Quote from: pchmotoho on November 13, 2018, 11:24:45 AM
The house burned. Small world, the closest fireman in the picture I went to high school with. J Speegle nailed it with his guess. Yes they were low on water and it was most assuredly not a choice between the house or the car. They couldn't do anything to save the house. Even if they had a full tank by the time they arrived the house was on it was on its deathbed.
Wasn't much of a guess - 32 years in the business helps ;) Over the years did a number of strike teams as part of the state OES
Considering most cars would have gas in the tanks, would it be protocol to try and extract them from a building to avoid an explosion?
The FAKE tag on that car is only two numbers away from my legitimate one so I guess you know what my opinion is.
Quote from: CharlesTurner on November 13, 2018, 01:41:04 PM
Considering most cars would have gas in the tanks, would it be protocol to try and extract them from a building to avoid an explosion?
Just depends on the situation (time, access, what else is going on - all that are consently changing all the time) in general they don't "explode" like you see on TV and in movies. In cases like this no it would be standard that efforts be taken since you have other buildings and possibly lives that might be saved where it one appears to be a write off from the time of arrival.
Interesting read;
https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2018/11/19/planning-fire-protection-for-your-collector-car/?refer=news
Install a n overhead fire sprinkler system in the garage. Cars don't mind getting wet.
Quote from: 2112 on November 20, 2018, 11:36:33 AM
Interesting read;
https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2018/11/19/planning-fire-protection-for-your-collector-car/?refer=news
Yes one has to consider if there is more of a possibility of thief or fire and plan accordingly. Every neighbor that knows you have cars tells another and another so each owner has to choose, as best possible, their exposure risk.
Of course the examples discussed right now are very unusual and are not your typical fires - doubt a fire sprinkler system would be effective for the owners who experienced the recent fire's. Much of those systems are plumbed with plastic or q plastic like product and its not unusual, after a fire, to have running/flowing water pipes around the house and home. One fo the reasons the utilities are one of the first things disconnected/shut off by one of the crewman
CPVC pipe is commonly used in fire protection sprinkler systems orange color is common and typically if it has water in it and is exposed it will only char, pipe being above sheetrock is preferred. There not designed to extinguish but to send an alarm and control a fire until the fire department can arrive. As Jeff stated the fires in this thread are not typical.
Quote from: 2112 on November 20, 2018, 11:36:33 AM
Interesting read;
https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2018/11/19/planning-fire-protection-for-your-collector-car/?refer=news
I like step #8 - Take your neighbors for rides & let them drive your car, so they can move it if you can't get there in time. Essentially, have fun sharing your car while also preparing ahead for a possible emergency.
Steve
I saw video from the first week and as they were slowly panning around, I saw the burnt-out hulk of '56 Chevy 2-door. No doubt, someone's pride and joy and most likely in very good-excellent condition. I have an ex-acquaintance that bought a flooded-out '70 440 six-pack, 4-speed Charger that was hit by Katrina. It was going to get fixed-up or restored. He and his brother are big Mopar freaks and they are the ones who introduced me to Mopars, back in '76.