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CSX2541 in 2001

CSX2361

CSX2122 waiting for the drive into Elkhart Lake

CSX2310 during its 2011 Tail of The Dragon ride.
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CSX2551 at the end of summer in 2017
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CSX2367 in my garage being serviced.

Car #2082, my dad (in the car) circa 1978.  Saw part of it in the scrap pile at a Auto Body shop and ended up buying the car, what was left it had been wrecked and bought buy the body shop owner with another wrecked Cobra that had already been redone, and the title and getting it made back into a car.  Yes, side vents were added at that time but the roll-hoop was not. Currently back in England and being redone...

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You didn't list the CSX # ;)

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CSX2321 also on the Dragon

SAAC 52

CSX2563 on the 2010 Cobra 1000 Tour through Wyoming, Idaho and Montana

Quote from: werthie on January 28, 2018, 01:35:37 AM
CSX2563 on the 2010 Cobra 1000 Tour through Wyoming, Idaho and Montana

Looks like you got cheated out of a snow ride like the 2017 tour.

Quote from: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on January 27, 2018, 03:39:28 AM
SAAC 52

52?

Was Marty McFly the co-pilot?

This one was owned by Dwight Dehne, from the Toronto, Canada area. pic is about 1984. any idea on the CSX #  ?

Mike

managed to post this image   :)  but when I tried to add another "the upload folder is full"   :( ???

Quote from: honker on April 14, 2018, 10:51:23 AM
This one was owned by Dwight Dehne, from the Toronto, Canada area. pic is about 1984. any idea on the CSX #  ?

Mike

CSX3270

A-Snake, thanks for the ID on that Cobra, I guess it should be in the "let's post some CSX 3000 Pictures" thread, I don't know how to move it, and I'm having the issue with posting, but some how lucked out to get that pic up.

Mike

so, i parked in a random reserved spot in a Century City (LA) office building over the weekend. 
i look up, and the spot belongs to . . . .

a better shot . . . .

Quite the coincidence.  :)

Very cool.  I hope you set fast lap time around the parking structure. 

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CSX 2300 Winner  TT Goodwood 2011

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CSX 2444  tour auto 2018

This photo is from 1977, taken at a Vincent motorcycle club gathering at Shadow Lake, Ontario.  I believe this is CSX2460, owned at the time by Phil Ramey.  The gentleman on the Moto Guzzi is Rollie Free, the man that rode a Vincent at 150 MPH at Bonneville, in bathing trunks, in that famous picture.

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^^^^^^^

Excellent, Love that famous Vincent photo.

A couple pictures of our old cobras black car is csx2444  when it had webers, hood scoop,roll bar and side exhaust. Red car is csx2236 . These were my dad's cars and I got to drive them when I was in high school in the mid 80s.
Scott B

Great pictures, I imagine you have very fond memories of those cars.

Quote from: Scott b on July 22, 2018, 01:02:41 AM
A couple pictures of our old cobras black car is csx2444  when it had webers, hood scoop,roll bar and side exhaust. Red car is csx2236 . These were my dad's cars and I got to drive them when I was in high school in the mid 80s.
Scott B

I can't imagine how awesome it was to not only have (through your Dad), but also drive 2 real cobras!!

Quote from: werthie on April 30, 2018, 03:31:07 PM
so, i parked in a random reserved spot in a Century City (LA) office building over the weekend. 
i look up, and the spot belongs to . . . .

The spot belongs to bandleader Ray Coniff's former car, CSX 2563.

Dig the sign!

(from the previous forum)

miami's old serpentarium displaying a cobra...

Here's 2287 during the "re-enactment" of the 12-hour record-setting events at Bonneville during the Simeone Museum's Demonstration Day on 7-28-18.
Pit stops for Driver change and fueling were included, they announced the individual records as the [simulated] times progressed. Fun times  8)
(full disclosure - the 12 hours was condensed to 12 minutes  ::) ???)

Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on July 26, 2018, 11:22:32 PM
miami's old serpentarium displaying a cobra...

Good friend of mine knew Bill Haast really well.

I posted these on the old forum, so re-upping for posterity's sake.

^^

Thanks Brian,

I have those noted as Mid-Ohio 8/30/64; #33 csx2189 and #99 csx2494.
Don't think anyone was able to ID the red street Cobra.

Quote from: sd427 on July 10, 2018, 02:28:52 AM
This photo is from 1977, taken at a Vincent motorcycle club gathering at Shadow Lake, Ontario.  I believe this is CSX2460, owned at the time by Phil Ramey.  The gentleman on the Moto Guzzi is Rollie Free, the man that rode a Vincent at 150 MPH at Bonneville, in bathing trunks, in that famous picture.

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Hey sd427,

Nice picture. I own 2460. Would you mind emailing me a copy of this picture?  Thsnks Chad
Chad.odom@encorecontainer.com

Chad, email sent.

Quote from: sd427 on July 10, 2018, 02:28:52 AM
This photo is from 1977, taken at a Vincent motorcycle club gathering at Shadow Lake, Ontario.  I believe this is CSX2460, owned at the time by Phil Ramey.  The gentleman on the Moto Guzzi is Rollie Free, the man that rode a Vincent at 150 MPH at Bonneville, in bathing trunks, in that famous picture.

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Now, THERE'S a man who looks like he lived life to the fullest.  Honestly, that's how I want to be / look when I'm his age.

Quote from: Shelby_0022 on August 20, 2018, 12:03:01 AM

Quote from: sd427 on July 10, 2018, 02:28:52 AM
This photo is from 1977, taken at a Vincent motorcycle club gathering at Shadow Lake, Ontario.  I believe this is CSX2460, owned at the time by Phil Ramey.  The gentleman on the Moto Guzzi is Rollie Free, the man that rode a Vincent at 150 MPH at Bonneville, in bathing trunks, in that famous picture.

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Now, THERE'S a man who looks like he lived life to the fullest.  Honestly, that's how I want to be / look when I'm his age.

What if he is 52?

Quote from: Bob Gaines on August 20, 2018, 12:28:36 AM

Quote from: Shelby_0022 on August 20, 2018, 12:03:01 AM

Quote from: sd427 on July 10, 2018, 02:28:52 AM
This photo is from 1977, taken at a Vincent motorcycle club gathering at Shadow Lake, Ontario.  I believe this is CSX2460, owned at the time by Phil Ramey.  The gentleman on the Moto Guzzi is Rollie Free, the man that rode a Vincent at 150 MPH at Bonneville, in bathing trunks, in that famous picture.

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Now, THERE'S a man who looks like he lived life to the fullest.  Honestly, that's how I want to be / look when I'm his age.

What if he is 52?

LOL!  In that case, he's still lived life to the fullest...albeit...maybe too full!  ;D

Rollie was 77 years old in that picture, lived to almost 84.

Photos noted as 1963 British Auto Show, a Cobra & the  RHD display chassis.

source: George Phillips Photograph Collection, Revs Institute.

regards,
jim p

They don't have to be old pictures, do they?

CSX2553 at SAAC43

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1962
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Great pictures, love the detail shots especially. Thanks for posting.

Ok,  Cobra experts, I posted pics of one of my favorite 2000 series cars, thinking it was CSX2196 the "Flip Top" cobra. It has the nose section and exhaust that seems to match what I believe is the CSX2196.  But now I am wondering if I have the right car.  Can someone confirm for me that it is that car being unloaded at the SA race shop. Also, all the current pics of this car shows a different nose / front fender configurations than the pics i posted. Are the ones I posted early or prototype or what. Personally , I like this version. Thanks for some help.
Also, what is the story behind the use of the "special aluminum" 390ci FE. Why not go straight to the 427. Was the decision based on class engine size rules? 

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Quote from: A1965GT350 on August 22, 2018, 03:39:15 PM
Ok,  Cobra experts, I posted pics of one of my favorite 2000 series cars, thinking it was CSX2196 the "Flip Top" cobra. It has the nose section and exhaust that seems to match what I believe is the CSX2196.  But now I am wondering if I have the right car.  Can someone confirm for me that it is that car being unloaded at the SA race shop. Also, all the current pics of this car shows a different nose / front fender configurations than the pics i posted. Are the ones I posted early or prototype or what. Personally , I like this version. Thanks for some help.
Also, what is the story behind the use of the "special aluminum" 390ci FE. Why not go straight to the 427. Was the decision based on class engine size rules? 

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That's still csx2196... I believe at that point the car was ready to ship out to the Nassua for the Speed Week in November '64.

By the way great photos and thank you for posting them!

Thanks Richstang for the reply. I guess this nose configuration was "Pre" crash haha.

I'm not sure what you mean by pre-crash. That is definitely the post crash version in November '64.

The earliest photos in my file of csx2196 is in the typical body configuration at Sebring in March 64. That's where the big wreck happed during the practice session. They worked through the night to make repairs and raced the next day in the 12hr event. Later in September '64 the flip nose version appeared unpainted at Riverside for testing.

Sorry, my bad for the pre / post timeline mix up and thanks for sharing the early pics too.

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CSX # ? ?   This might have been on forum 1.0 ? My note says Cumberland '68, but the CSX # I have with the photo, doesn't jive with the history in my 4th edition of the registry. Some one must know this car with that huge roll bar, and the extra light below the bumper ?

here is 3

CSX2557 at Northwoods Invitational  Road America

This is the front and back of the post card that came with the 1/16 427 Cobra model issued by MPC back in the '80s.

Scanned by me from my collection. In fact, I've got several of these models that I will be selling soon.

- Phillip

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previous photos of CSX2196 "Flip Top "Turd" motivated me to post these photos from Nassau Speed Week showing it with the nose & tail body sections removed, I had not seen the "bare bones" revealed before of the "Flip Top" chassis.

regards,
jim p

CSX 2252 in 2006

What's the trick for posting pics?  I have a few but something isn't working.

try checking this out:
http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=206.0

you can also copy and past links from 3rd party hosts (I use IMGUR, there are others as well)
Good luck.

Thanks Mark P.

Quote from: csxsfm on December 24, 2019, 10:49:47 PM
Thanks Mark P.

Glad [to at least try] to help. i was fortunate to have a teen aged tech-happy son around the house when I first tried to do this stuff  ;D

What's the story on this pic of Carroll with a red Cobra, looks a bit like Masten Gregory to me ? Is it Riverside ?

Kranky ? ?

Mike

...does look like Masten Gregory they were friends, drove and traveled around the European race circuits in the mid-to-late 50's together.

It's hard to say to who is exactly driving the Cobra....it does look like Masten G. as mentioned by JD (possibly with a borrowed helmet, since most photos seem to show Masten G. with a silver helmet/white visor).  The Cobra is 2002....this might be part of a photo shoot and there was a color Magazine article out there showing a road test of this Cobra (2002) in period at Riverside.

Kranky

The location appears more like Pomona Raceway which used the parking lots and drag strip in the layout.

Quote from: CSX 4133 on February 13, 2020, 03:25:13 PM

The location appears more like Pomona Raceway which used the parking lots and drag strip in the layout.

IMO this is RIR.  The camera angle may be deceiving.  Note the banked turn (9) in the background. And the half-buried white tires that's one of RIR's trademarks. 

I wonder who the photog was? Doesn't look like Friedman.

Were there trees at Riverside?

There were several streets of old rural-type houses with tall trees (lots of eucalyptus and cottonwoods) to the far rear of Turn Nine, outside of track property, as can be seen (I'm pretty sure that's RIR) in the photo.

But, I was too young to have been at RIR when that photo was taken (1963?) so I can't swear to it.

Mr. "98 SVT - was 06 GT" might be able to help us here.

I wrote on the map of RIR where the houses and trees were.  The small red dot is approximately where the Cobra was, but you will need to adjust your mind's compass to look from the north toward the south...the opposite of the map's orientation.

Ok, so I snatched these from FB, so I can't attribute the author/owner  :-\

All appear to be from 1965 Road America 500 June 1965.
CSX2430, CSX2494, CSX2558, CSX3009 & P1010

jim p

more,

September 1965 for the 500.  June 1965 for the Sprints.  Great photos by the way.

I'll add this video of the 1963 Road America, not the best film quality but worthwhile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYEZS1Dbw8s

Here's an angle of CSX2128 I've not seen before. I wonder where this is, I'm looking at the Concrete pour, airport circuit ? does the

guy pushing on the roll bar have an Airforce logo on his shoulder ?

Mike

Allen Grant on the roll bar.  George Lucas on the nose.

Is this a 2000 series car ? I think this is at Kent ?

Mike

Dick Smith's car??

Can't tell 100%, but that looks like a 1983 year sticker on the CA plate.   

Might help i.d. the time-frame of the car and owner.

That is Dick's car confirmed by the license plate number. That is Dick in the picture.

Me coming back from taking CSX2079 for a short spin.

Cheers,
~Earl J

^^ what wheels are those??

Quote from: JD on March 28, 2020, 07:21:37 PM
^^ what wheels are those??

JD,

The wheels on 2079 are Borrani's. The same ones found on vintage Ferrari's (with alloy rims)

Cheers,
~Earl J

Thanks Earl (that's what I was thinking they looked like) - some of THE best looking they really stand out.

Very nice car too! (do you mind if I photoshop my head in place of yours - a dark green SB Cobra with Borrani's is a top 5 dream car)

Sweet car. Love the Borranis!

Here's one from 3-Dog Garage:
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this special guest was at the Ford v Ferrari exhibit at the Simeone Museum:
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Great pictures - thanks to all for posting!

Sebring 1965

^^^ Got Flares? ;D

For anyone keeping track, that's CSX 2565 in post #86 and CSX 2539 in #87.

Any info on this car ? I looked in my 4th edition registry, I most likely missed it  ::)

Is it is still owned by Gerald Scheberies ? the info I found says it was sold new to Johannesberg ?? came back to England ?? and I

think Rod Leach had it at some point ? Don't know how correct this is ? ?

(NOTE ! ! all the question marks, don't want some one reading this and then it becomes gospel  ;)

Mike

Quote from: Cobra Ned on March 31, 2020, 02:34:17 PM
For anyone keeping track, that's CSX 2565 in post #86 and CSX 2539 in #87.

Thanks Ned, I wasn't exactly sure of the protocol for the numbers, even though the cars were [more or less] on public display.

2106

Picture taken in the early '80s at the Mid-America Shelby meet in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

All the best,

Steve

Here's one from today, of CSX2367.  I've been struggling with brake pedal firmness, and normal bleeding didn't help.
If you look at my list of non-Cobra's you have to figure I've bled plenty of Girling brakes. A Series one Etype is always a challenge and don't ask about 1971 Mercedes systems.  While my wife Lori is an experienced brake pedal pumper, I've always done well with a pressure bleeder (my Motive Power Bleed canister  and my fabricated Master Cyl cap are in these pictures) , but always with some concern about a fitting blowing loose and spraying brake fluid all over...
So....it's now working great.   Spring is coming in Michigan, now we just need to get this virus stuff behind us.
As tends to happen, I probably caused this brake bleed problem myself.   I had replaced the plated caps on the reservoirs and left the seals in them as-received.  The rubber seals weren't vented.  They are now.   Dave

For Honker: (Post #92) The car pictured is COB 6113, a right-hand-drive "AC 289 Sports." And yes, it is still owned by Gerry Scheberies. You'll find data for it and every other coil-spring Cobra, as well as photos for almost all of them, in SAAC's soon-to-be-released Coil Spring Cobra Registry.

Cobra Ned, thanks for the info Scheberies Car, and I now found it in my 4th edition registry  ::) duh ! ! mind you I was looking by

name and  he isn't listed.

I was looking originally on line  for info on the A.C. Mongoose (also a Scheberies car) and the info in the link came up, which put

me on another search  ;)

Mike

https://www.sfgate.com/cars/myride/article/AC-Cobra-takes-international-journey-6877472.php

Another one I found from a later Mid-America meet in Tulsa...circa 2011.

Cheers,

Steve

AGP 2012 Historics

AC Ace-Zephyr, not Cobra

Quote from: 6s2020 on April 04, 2020, 06:23:35 PM
AGP 2012 Historics

Quote from: SunDude on April 04, 2020, 07:34:07 PM
AC Ace-Zephyr, not Cobra

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Thanks, Was wondering that.

CSX2557 at Elkhart Lake, June '66. I'm not sure about the engine shot, but it was in the same set of photos.

How many other Cobras had the double exhaust ? Was it like that on both sides ? What was the advantage to that set up ?

Mike

That was the only one with that particular exhaust setup. And it was on both sides.

At the Bridgehampton Double 500 on September 20, 1964....several Cobras sprouted the "double exhaust" configuration: 2513, 2290, 2558 and 2557.  2430, Tom Payne's Cobra, ran the same exhaust in 1965....at least during the Mosport Players 200.  The reasoning behind the dual side exhaust (just a guess here)...might of had to do with what Shelby American had learned from testing the Daytona Coupe and it's version of the dual exhaust as in relation to high speed tracks (better breathing at higher RPM's?).  Unfortunately, I don't have any under hood shots of the headers, but I could guess that the double side exhaust featured 2-1 split headers (Daytona Coupe style) instead of the standard 4-1 headers that were used on most competition Cobras.

kranky, thanks for that extra info on the double exhaust, I thought it might have to do with better breathing.

How many years have I looked at Daytona coupe pics, and not twigged to the fact they had that exhaust set up   ::)

Mike

CSX2327 which is being offered at Mecum Indianapolis this week

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CSX2137 or CSX2142 at the 1963 Tour de Corse Rally, driven by Jo Schlesser/Patrick Vanson.

Kranky's race record and the latest SAAC Registry disagree on which car it is. Based on the material I have, I'm leaning towards it being 2137, but does anyone here know for sure?

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It is my belief that 2137 remained in the U.S. in 9/63, while 2142 was in France. Additionally, there are photos of 2142 with the same flares as in your photo, while those of 2137 are different.

Ned is incorrect....this particular Cobra was discussed, backed up with several photos in the original SAAC Forum before it crashed....and we all agreed to the fact that the #85 Cobra at the November 1963 Tour de Course in Corsica and #84 Cobra at the November 1963 Criterium des Cevennes is CSX2137, not CSX2142.

I'm not going to go through the process of posting all of the old photos again but I'll present all of the facts known about both Cobras (2137 and 2142) during a specific time period (September 1963-December 1963).

2137: owned and raced by Shelby American Inc., Le Mans spec bodywork (FIA hood scoop, enlarged side vents, rear hinged shortened trunk lid), standard front fender flares with side spats, rear enlarged fender flares, 6 1/2" and 7 1/2" Halibrand Kidney Bean magnesium wheels, 3" full length side exhausts on both sides, Raydyot side rear view mirror, center support for the windshield (attaches to the top of the cowl and to the top of the windshield), single hoop roll bar mounted through the rear bodywork, exterior color black at last race under SAI (October 13, 1963-LA Times GP-Bob Bondurant at the wheel....sustained damage to the driver's side rear fender flare).

2142: run under the John Willment Autos Ltd. banner, Le Mans spec bodywork (FIA hood scoop, enlarged side vents, rear hinged shortened trunk lid), standard front fender flares with a thin aluminum fender lip extensions attached to the lower trailing edge of the fender lips (these were added at Le Mans to cover the wheel offsets not fitting under the stock flares-a rules infraction), rear fender flares were unmodified and stock in profile and shape with thin aluminum fender lip extensions attached to the lower leading edge of the fender lips (also a necessary modification done at Le Mans to cover the wheel offsets not fitting under the stock flares), 6 1/2" Dunlop magnesium front and rear wheels, dual non-full length exhausts on both sides (Willment Team modification done after Le Mans), no rear view side mirrors, no center support for the windshield, no roll bar or holes cut in the bodywork for one, number lights located on the sides of the front fenders on both sides for night time racing and identification, a bug deflector mounted across the top of the hood and hood scoop, exterior color of white with two thin dark blue stripes front to back at Le Mans (June 1963).  Once the ownership changed from Ed Hugus/SAI to John Willment the front of the nose stripes changed to the traditional Willment stripes (triple and color change to red instead of the dark blue).  2142's last race in England was the Snetterton 3-Hour enduro at the end of September of 1963 before it was to be readied and shipped off to South African Springbok races (November 1963-early January 1964).

October 1963 Ford of France had no Cobras in their stable and the Tour de Course and the Criterium des Cevennes were just around the corner (late October through mid-November).  So SAI had just finished the Riverside LA Times GP (mid-October 1963) and they were planning to attend the Hawaii races at the end of October 1963...the problem was which cars would we take for the two drivers that we have in our stable (Ken and Dave)?  The possibilities were 2127, 2136 and 2137....2127 (Gurney's Cobra) escaped the Riverside races fairly clean, 2136 (Spencer's Cobra) had a fair amount of damage to the front grill area and the driver's front fender and headlight area were crushed and 2136 (Bondurant's Cobra) had some damage to the driver's side rear fender.  This is just a guess....but Ford of France got in contact with SAI inquiring about a Cobra during this lull between upcoming races.  How they picked which cars were to be fixed and for which drivers is something I don't know about, but there was a color change in the works for the Cobras (2127 and 2136) that were scheduled to be readied for the Hawaiian races....and since they were to be repainted "Princess Blue" what would stop them from fixing the damaged bodywork on 2137 and also painting it "Princess Blue"?   All of this work and planning must have been competed in the first week after the Riverside LA Times GP so both sets of Cobras could be air freighted to their destinations in time (Hawaii and Paris, France) for the upcoming races.    The latest edition of the leaf spring Cobra Registry also notes that 2137 was lent to Ford of France for a short period of time.  Here is also some interesting news that was in Motorsport magazine covering the November 1963 Tour de Course race: J. Schlesser "only had a limited number of wheels, after his spares were held up in a Paris airport by a customs strike."  Schlesser went through all of the set of wheels and had to change tires on a few of the wheels since he didn't have extras (lost lots of time on the race due to tire issues).  Later one of the wheels got loose and while he was fixing it, the jack slipped and went through the bodywork.  Now during this time the Ford of France Cobra was Princess blue and 2142 was racing in South Africa and was still white.  (You can't be on two different Continents racing the same Cobra in different colors at the same time?  2142 still had the same Le Mans bodywork and white exterior paint (#6) at it's first South African race at Kyalami at the end of October 1963 through early November.  2142's next several races in South Africa during November and December it sprouted "modified" rear fender flares to now cover the 8 1/2" Halibrand FIA mags and an opening cut in to the front lower valance for more cooling and it was still painted white.  The fender flares that Ned keeps talking about and showing in the same photos didn't happen until later in 1964/1965 when the ownership of 2142 was transferred from John Willment to Ford of France.   

SunDude's photo of the Ford of France Cobra (October 1963) in what looks to be a black and white version of "Princess Blue" (I did post color photos on the old SAAC Forum showing that this particular Cobra was blue), Raydyot side mirror, Le Mans hood scoop and side vents, front fender spats, flared rear fenders, 3" full length side exhaust, center windshield support, single hoop roll  bar and Kidney Bean wheels looks to be suspiciously like 2137 not like 2142, which was still white during this time and under John Willments stewardship?

Quote from: kranky on July 17, 2020, 04:40:52 AM... looks to be suspiciously like 2136 not like 2142, which was still white during this time and under John Willments stewardship?

Did you mean 2136, or 2137...?

Here's another webfind B&W photo of the #85 car in Corsica, in case it helps with IDing the car. The coolant hose looks like how it was on 2137 in period photos.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/68/4f/48/684f48adc53f9bb3455953e098266203.jpg)

Correct Sundude (2137, not 2136)....it was late last night...and I fixed it.

Another photo from the Hazan Cobra book, the above pic of Schlesser/Vanson is also in there.
(http://www.ponysite.de/85_schlesser_tdc63_hazan.jpg)
The author Hazan also writes that Henri Chemin ordered the car from SAI and it disembarqued in Orly/France November 2nd.

Another pic in a Henri Chemin interview (Echappement Classique). In which he confirms the order of 2 Cobras for Jo Schlesser/Henri Greder.
(http://www.ponysite.de/85tdc3.jpg)

I'm glad there is more data available, as well as additional photos, beyond what was used back in the '70s to compile the history of these cars. Using the tools of today instead of Autoweek and R&T sure helps keep things straight. Thanks for the revisions!

CSX2125 - This beautiful Shelby 289 Cobra street roadster was restored to original condition in 2019 by Vintage Motorcar Co.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50140794516_f6e185bd7f_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50141032957_2a4b958252_b.jpg)

Quote from: SunDude on July 22, 2020, 08:07:47 PM
CSX2125 - This beautiful Shelby 289 Cobra street roadster was restored to original condition in 2019 by Vintage Motorcar Co.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50140794516_f6e185bd7f_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50141032957_2a4b958252_b.jpg)

Outstanding color!

Only three Cobras ever came from the AC factory in that great "Blue Metaline" color - 2125, 2132, and 2133. And for inexplicable reasons, each was repainted a different color a few years down the road. Tragic. I'm glad this one was repainted back to the original color they found when stripping it.

   Isn't that Princess Blue? 
   Isn't Bright Blue much darker?

Although the registry indicates 2125 was painted Bright Blue, it is incorrect, due to an inability to differentiate between blues at the time. We know now that 3 cars were painted in a color that AC Cars labeled "Blue Metaline." And this was at the same time they were using "Princess Blue," a very similar but different color.

I got to see this car at Amelia Island this!!  It is one of the prettiest Cobras I have ever seen!!!!!  WHata color!

Quote from: Chad on July 24, 2020, 01:26:27 PM
I got to see this car at Amelia Island this!!  It is one of the prettiest Cobras I have ever seen!!!!!  WHata color!

Well, let's see some pics, man...!!

While we're on the subject of blue...The bulk of blue small block Cobras were painted what AC Cars called "Bright Blue." Over the years, this has come to be seen as synonymous with Ford Guardsman Blue. But they were different colors. The AC color is technically known as "AC Jewelesence 19028-N Bright Blue." So, if you want your Bright Blue 289 to be fully correct...

Quote from: Cobra Ned on July 26, 2020, 10:41:07 AM
While we're on the subject of blue...The bulk of blue small block Cobras were painted what AC Cars called "Bright Blue." Over the years, this has come to be seen as synonymous with Ford Guardsman Blue. But they were different colors. The AC color is technically known as "AC Jewelesence 19028-N Bright Blue." So, if you want your Bright Blue 289 to be fully correct...

+1

I have an original paint "Bright Blue" in color bonnet from a Cobra hanging on a wall. As far as I know it has been hanging as wall art on some Cobra owners or another display wall for decades. In a round of original used Cobra part trades between a group of Cobra owners I ended up with it. While you could call AC Cars "Bright Blue" and Ford "Guardsman Blue" similar, they are not the same.

Dan, why would anyone paint their wife's hat blue?   :D

Quote from: Cobra Ned on July 27, 2020, 10:52:05 AM
Dan, why would anyone paint their wife's hat blue?   :D

That's funny, "hood" if you prefer.

OK. Let's not even get started on what's in the boot.

Quote from: Cobra Ned on July 27, 2020, 02:01:04 PM
OK. Let's not even get started on what's in the boot.

I got somebody in the UK really mixed up once when I used "hood" to describe that big hinged panel covering the engine bay. As in why would somebody open their soft top to get to a battery disconnect in the engine bay. The occasion being described was the owner of CSX2050 fumbling around trying to find the key to the Budget® latches so he could disconnect the battery before the car burned up. It was a short period of fumbling around but with hot wiring smoke rising from the car it was exciting for the Cobra's owner. Memory says the key was on a string hung around his neck the rest of the event weekend.

I have encountered the same confusion, but fortunately not in as drastic a situation as the one you describe. How could anyone confuse a hood with a bonnet, a trunk with a boot, or a top with a hood? It boggles the mind.

I had seen Blue Metaline listed a few times, but had never actually seen it.  Absolutely stunning.

coming back to 2142 for a moment, here's a photo I have in my files of the Schlesser car at Mount Ventoux, hill climb in 1965.

Mike

Harrison-Huttinger CSX 2128 1964 Road America 500.

Quiet for a month  ;)

What is the # on this car ? it was asked on another forum, id'd as a 289 FIA car ? ? Driven by Machoir in France. I looked in my

4th edition of the registry and couldn't find that name under owners.

Mike

Just a guess, but maybe a replica. They race a lot of Kobras in Europe.

Quote from: Cobrabob on September 05, 2020, 07:13:47 PM
Just a guess, but maybe a replica. They race a lot of Kobras in Europe.

Replicas! There are no replicas at Goodwood! And there is no betting at Bushwood.....................

It's a Cobra FIA
https://www.vintage-garage.fr/fr/vehicules-a-vendre/19291-cobra-289-fia-hawk.html

http://platesmania.com/fr/nomer12168936

Here is the blue Cobra at Amelia Island this year.  It really is an incredible color.  Beautifully restored.

I suck at posting pictures.

Found this one, other than date of 6/12/2011 in Dearborn, MI. No information.

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/187-310121141615.jpeg)

CSX2260 at the 1964 Daytona 2000km

(photo by Pete Biro)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50909830847_8514c6d584_b.jpg)

Here's a pic, I've not seen before of CSX2196, captioned as  "Marzolf at Kirker Creek 1966" couldn't find that name linked with the

car in my 4th. edition of the registry, the car number 14, matches another photo I have in my files of Ridenour at Kirker , I believe

he was killed in a sprint car crash in '65 ? From the registry I found that  Mark King owned the car  in '66 and different drivers

where behind the wheel. Is there any more information come to light since the 4th. edition of the registry. Perhaps there is some

error as to dates from various sources ?

(photo credit: Duke Manor)

Mike

The photo caption is incorrect....Dave Ridenour is at the wheel in the modified race as #14 (2196)....Ridenour finished 1st oa/1st C-modified....Don Pike was originally scheduled to drive.  Roland Marzolf (3039) also raced his 427 Cobra under the #14 in the production race....Marzolf finished 2nd oa/2nd A-production.  Ridenour did pass away a few months later in a sprint car accident.  Ridenour was running under the S&C sponsorship for the race.

Thanks kranky ! I was going to call out to you in the post thinking you would come up with the correct answer. You often seem to

have the correct info  ;)

Mike

PS: kranky, you are the man  ! here's a pic of Roland Marzolf in CSX3039 at the same event.

I can see the confusion with two Cobras with the same # 14 running at this event.

(photo: Duke Manor)

That was a pretty track setting.  Not just dirt, half-buried tires, and smog. 

Wasn't the track amongst some oil refineries ?

Here's another shot of Ridenour in CSX2196 at Kirker Creek.

(photo credit: unknown)

Mike

Oil, I like.  They make it into gasoline.  ;D

It's also known as Camp Stoneman....an ex-Army base in Pittsburg, Calif.

Spelled like Pittsburg, Texas.  I think some famous car guy lived there.

Camp Stoneman location today...

https://www.google.com/maps/place/2527+Railroad+Ave,+Pittsburg,+CA+94565/@38.0111961,-121.8915639,3a,78.5y,135.64h,74.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s*211m10*211y9260909351988960481*212y16811672934149720740*213m7*21139330259m6*212m5*211m3*211m2*211y9260909351988960481*212y13034452527879773360*212i2527*212m2*211x380111531*212x3076051830*213m2*211y9260909239990394739*212y5461198314044205503*215m2*211x380111531*212x3076051830!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m5!3m4!1s0x80855bfd3e651ce1:0xe94f0f76280b0aa4!8m2!3d38.0111531!4d-121.8915466

Map of the Kirker Creek track, that is Dow Chemical on the North East side, still there today as seen in Side-Oilers Google map

link.

I was there when Ridenour exited the car after winning and he remarked about what a handful the car was to drive.  Probably not what S & C Ford would have scripted.  Event sticks in my mind as Shelby's Goodyear support team installed some race tires on my then street Cobra. 

Restauration pics:

http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/originality-forum/144609-restoration-csx-2196-k-turd.html

Interesting treatment to the rear hub carrier.

Here's a few photos of CSX2105 taken in 2014 when I met Joe the owner, Mustang State Titles Melbourne Australia.

Trying  ::) to organize my files  !

Is this Tom Hagn in CSX2564 ? ? my note says Salinas Airport Autocross 1968. Might have been on the old forum.

(no photo credit given)

Mike

I have no notes that show 2564 had American wheels back then. It had chrome wires on it by the time it showed up at a SAAC event in the '90s.

It's plain to see

(https://i.postimg.cc/pL5bpHBm/20210422-145200.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)huntington bank branch near me (https://banks-nearme.com/huntington-bank-near-me)

eltee, welcome back, it's been a while ! I trust all is good with you and family.

Mike, in Canada

Quote from: eltee on April 23, 2021, 07:47:05 PM
It's plain to see

... two ways to "fly"  8) very cool

Some quite new online pics from Cobra races 63-65 in Germany and Spa/Belgium.
http://dieterberg-oldtimer.de/19640531_nurburgring_1000-km-rennen_training/

Including early race of the GT40.
Check out the menu point "was gibt es hier zu sehen" for other races.

Quote from: TransamEd on July 06, 2021, 04:37:26 PM
Some quite new online pics from Cobra races 63-65 in Germany and Spa/Belgium.
http://dieterberg-oldtimer.de/19640531_nurburgring_1000-km-rennen_training/

Including early race of the GT40.
Check out the menu point "was gibt es hier zu sehen" for other races.

VERY NICE Wolfgang!

It is always great to find a new source of photos for any event. Having several events is a big plus!
I was excited to see the tail end of the FIA Cobra's at SPA, hoping to capture the license plates for each car clearly...
No such luck with the one photo from that race. The hunt continues.

CSX2234 - This original Shelby 289 Cobra -- once owned by legendary Canadian rock drummer Neil Peart -- will be crossing the auction block at Gooding & Co. Pebble Beach, to be held Aug 13-14, 2021. Pre-auction estimate $900,000–1,000,000 USD.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51272542536_cb51cc6e23_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51272870909_605887076e_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49569830401_0563505c16_b.jpg)

CSX2459 - enjoy this Dave Friedman photo of Lew Florence's USRRC 289 Cobra at Shelby American headquarters in Venice CA, circa Jul 1964

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51312013185_642e17ab64_b.jpg)

CSX2551 at 06:00 August 15, 2021 ready to head out for the local annual charity car show.

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/274-160821100119.jpeg)

How long before someone says, "Gee, Dan - what a nice slab side!"  :)

You just did ?

Dan,

What a nice slab side!.... LOL

Seriously though...absolutely gorgeous Dan!

Let the confusion begin!

The Turd ?

Quote from: Dan Case on August 16, 2021, 09:59:21 AM
CSX2551 at 06:00 August 15, 2021 ready to head out for the local annual charity car show.

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/274-160821100119.jpeg)

Beautiful Cobra Dan!

Honker

Yep

Quote from: honker on August 16, 2021, 10:06:37 PM
The Turd ?

...to the Wizard...he'll know! Ned?

"Flip Top"
"Turd"
Actually it should be known as the first 427 Cobra

Quote from: CSX2259 on August 17, 2021, 12:07:53 PM

"Flip Top"
"Turd"
Actually it should be known as the first 427 Cobra

Or "the" aluminum 390 Cobra

CSX2196, Nassau '64, that car was a beast ! Who is the crewman in the car ?

Mike

Jerry Hirsch & Stirling Moss, Lynndale Farms, 20 miles west of Milwaukee, 1963.

Mike

Quote from: honker on August 17, 2021, 03:11:53 PM
CSX2196, Nassau '64, that car was a beast ! Who is the crewman in the car ?

Mike

Ron Butler maybe?

Quote from: Dan Case on August 17, 2021, 12:29:21 PM

Quote from: CSX2259 on August 17, 2021, 12:07:53 PM

"Flip Top"
"Turd"
Actually it should be known as the first 427 Cobra

Or "the" aluminum 390 Cobra

That's the most accurate description / name I've heard as an outsider and non SAI employee.

Quote from: Dan Case on August 17, 2021, 12:29:21 PM

Quote from: CSX2259 on August 17, 2021, 12:07:53 PM

"Flip Top"
"Turd"
Actually it should be known as the first 427 Cobra

Or "the" aluminum 390 Cobra

Dan,
Since CSX3001 was the 1st "production validation" 427 car  i.e. coil spring chassis,
would CSX2196 be considered  the 427 "concept development prototype" ??

just word games :)

jim p

Quote from: 6R07mi on August 18, 2021, 12:56:22 PM
Or "the" aluminum 390 Cobra

Dan,
Since CSX3001 was the 1st "production validation" 427 car  i.e. coil spring chassis,
would CSX2196 be considered  the 427 "concept development prototype" ??

just word games :)

jim p
[/quote]

The names people apply depend a whole lot on the time frame of the discussion and audience.   

And now we resume our regularly scheduled program......car pictures.

CSX2551 and some other brand August 1, 2021.

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/274-180821145034.jpeg)

CSX2310 cooling down after Cars and Coffee July 25, 2021.

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/274-180821145418.jpeg)

Liking that side exiting exhaust.

Quote from: deathsled on August 18, 2021, 04:53:51 PM
Liking that side exiting exhaust.

Black car, a necessity at one point in time driven by the custom tail pipes from factory mufflers back a former owner had installed circa 1968. He damaged one of the original tail pipes and had both replaced so they would match. The custom pipes followed a path that prevented a factory/dealer option rear stabilizer bar installation. When I found an original rear stabilizer bar and links the custom tail pipes had to go. The simple, and important at the time cheap, solution was just go side out from the original mufflers which are still in use today. I tell people that I am going out to listen to the stero (take a ride).

289 cobra

I hope they stayed on the country roads so the lack of any rear view mirrors would not have mattered much.

CSX2177 on display at the Virginia Festival Of The Wheel....

For Sale

Quote from: FL SAAC on September 07, 2021, 08:02:33 AM
For Sale

427 Cobras in that image.

I don't know, Dan. I only see 3.

Quote from: Cobra Ned on September 08, 2021, 01:19:14 PM
I don't know, Dan. I only see 3.

Plus the car outside on the other side of the windows looks like a 1967 Shelby Mustang of some flavor.

Not that it really matters I guess but the showroom picture of CSX3000 cars is in the "CSX2000 Series" section.

That's at Pletcher's Ford Town, Jenkintown PA, here's a  slightly clearer image, you can read the sign on the car, lot's of info on

this dealer on Coralsnake's web page.

Mike

I'm guessing the closest car is dark green and is CSX 3352. The white one is likely CSX 3331. And the silver one could be CSX 3351 or 3353. Not sure we'll ever know for certain.

Appreciate the attribution

It is from my website

http://www.thecoralsnake.com/Pletcher

Quote from: SunDude on July 14, 2021, 11:03:28 AM
CSX2459 - enjoy this Dave Friedman photo of Lew Florence's USRRC 289 Cobra at Shelby American headquarters in Venice CA, circa Jul 1964

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51312013185_642e17ab64_b.jpg)

James Bargelt, CSX2459, SCCA R'gnl August 24th. '68 Kent.

(image: Racing Sportscars)

 Then:  (https://www.saac.com/forum/gallery/509-011221213912.jpeg)

Now:  (https://www.saac.com/forum/gallery/509-011221214857.jpeg)

vroom

Quote from: FL SAAC on December 02, 2021, 07:31:46 AM
vroom
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Bob Holbert, CSX ????  1963 Kent, Washington

CSX2000 making its public debut at the 1962 New York Auto Show

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51778769207_ff6f708a58_b.jpg)

I was there. Didn't know what it was?

Look at the Weber cross ram manifold on the stand to the side of the Cobra! DCOE's?

Bob Lindauer, CSX2344, Chicago 1964. History in my older registry says he bought the car in Florida and did over 4000 miles in

one month driving to Chicago and New York for the Worlds Fair, and back to Florida, those were the days  8)

Mike

CSX2278, owned for 50 years.

Once owned by George Bartell, automotive artist.

https://www.motortrend.com/features/1964-shelby-cobra-csx-2278-photos-history/

^^^^ Because we've discussed temporary license tags before:   

That's exactly the correct "paper plate" temporary that you got from a dealer when you bought a car in CA, until your metal plates arrived.

Both new and used cars (purchased from a dealer) got the paper temporaries. 

CA continued that style until around 1975 when they changed to just the "passenger-side lower windshield" location for a square paper temporary registration.

The problem with the tape-them-to-the-bumper paper plates was any sort of rain, car wash, fast speeds. etc.. quickly tore them apart.   

Probably didn't last long on Bartell's Cobra.

The info with this photo said "Bill Fisher, Cobra, All Ford Meet, 1974 Willow Springs"  is this possibly CSX2089 ? ?  in my 4th. edition

of the registry, the date '74 doesn't match any information. Should the caption with the photo maybe read '84 ?

Mike

The car pictured in the foreground is definitely not CSX 2089, as it has not been modified with the cutback doors and FIA flares. Since the shot was taken at Willow Springs, that is likely a CA car that we have not yet identified. But not Bill Fischer's.

Cobra Ned, thanks for your reply, here's where I found that photo, I just assumed it was Fisher's car because of the name of the

OP, hope the link works. We will await your research, you seem to always come up with the info !

Mike

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217252541800587&set=ecnf.1082949485

Different guy. Fisher vs. Fischer. He simply took the photo; doesn't recall whose car it was.

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/197-040422092456.png)

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/197-040422092526.png)

CSX 2252

Here are some pics I came across of CSX2035, Bob Razelle, at Westwood, British Columbia, Canada, one I zoomed in, but the

resolution is crap ! probably '63 or '64, according the information in my 2008 4th. edition of the registry. Any other photos of it ?

Mike

ex-racer Bobby Rahal in his 289 Cobra street roadster at last week's Ponte Vedra Auto Show in Florida.

Does anyone know which CSX chassis number it is?

About two years ago, Rahal had a red 289 Cobra that was featured in a Petersen Museum YouTube video. Does anyone know whether this is the same car now repainted black, or is this a different car?

(https://cdn2.creativecirclemedia.com/pontevedra/original/20221116-160104-11-17%20Cover.JPG)

(https://i0.wp.com/www.firstcoastcarculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/621.jpg)

This is a different car. It was purchased by Mr. Rahal almost two years ago from a gentleman in Denver, CO. Previous owners include Kenny Passerelli, and Eddie O'Brien. I do not have the CSX number handy.

Quote from: SFM6S on November 23, 2022, 09:12:31 AM
This is a different car. It was purchased by Mr. Rahal almost two years ago from a gentleman in Denver, CO. Previous owners include Kenny Passerelli, and Eddie O'Brien. I do not have the CSX number handy.

I believe thats CSX2545, originally white, then black, red, and back to black again.

Quote from: honker on November 23, 2022, 10:26:54 AM

Quote from: SFM6S on November 23, 2022, 09:12:31 AM
This is a different car. It was purchased by Mr. Rahal almost two years ago from a gentleman in Denver, CO. Previous owners include Kenny Passerelli, and Eddie O'Brien. I do not have the CSX number handy.

I believe thats CSX2545, originally white, then black, red, and back to black again.

yep, confirmed by Ned via Facebook as well

update: I've also confirmed that the red 289 Cobra in the YouTube video is a Kirkham replica

I was just part of the restoration team on this Cobra......CSX2026

I believe this to be Jerry Hansen's  CSX2026 in 1964, don't know what track, looks to be a cold day !

From the registry, I wonder if that's the Corvette that Hansen beat, who's owner was so frustrated that he bought CSX2026  ;)

Mike

The ex-Shelby racing team Cobra (CSX2002) was raced five times at Mosport in 1963 by Eppie Wietzes.

Does anyone know exactly which race this photo is from?

The tape pattern over the headlamps is probably the most telltale clue as the car wore #54 often that season.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52628010397_d567153928_b.jpg)

Thank You very much !   

spin out

To SunDude:

It's the September 1963 St. Eugene sports car races for Eppie (2002).

Quote from: kranky on January 17, 2023, 12:59:11 PM
To SunDude:

It's the September 1963 St. Eugene sports car races for Eppie (2002).

Thanks! I think you're right, even though the website where I found that photo said it was Mosport.

I just found two dated/credited photos from the same race at St. Eugene/Connor Airport. The second pic has the same black tape pattern over the headlamps. In addition, the hay bales along the course seem to match my first webfind pic.

(fun fact: the old St. Eugene/Connor Airport track is just 108km/67miles from where I now live)

(https://www.canadianracer.com/visitor-photos/eugene-r/photos/images/eugene-r-06.jpg)

(https://www.canadianracer.com/visitor-photos/eugene-r/photos/images/eugene-r-03.jpg)

I searched here for references to the Stilltime Collection, but did not find any, hope this hasn't been covered in the past.  Here is a link to a few pictures that are actually tagged as "Cobra".  There may be more, try browsing their Racing collection.

https://www.stilltimecollection.co.uk/search/cobra

Sundude, can you map that old track?

Quote from: rkm on February 15, 2023, 07:27:42 AM
Sundude, can you map that old track?

Here it is ...or rather, was: https://www.google.com/maps/place/45%C2%B029'14.0%22N+74%C2%B028'45.0%22W/@45.4874896,-74.4799253,1266m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d45.487222!4d-74.479167?hl=en

Crazy. Never heard of this place. But cool !!

spotted this new addition at the 3-Dog Garage. Wow  8)
(https://i.imgur.com/DKfzlAc.jpg)

(https://sharedalbums.b-cdn.net/3749beb2-1836-4b51-8def-3a6223461a53.jpg?class=display)


2156 another one i had apart and back  together

Quote from: mark p on June 24, 2023, 08:23:11 AM
spotted this new addition at the 3-Dog Garage. Wow  8)
(https://i.imgur.com/DKfzlAc.jpg)

What a beauty @

(https://sharedalbums.b-cdn.net/cac06307-f3fd-48f5-9dc4-abd4a03f7822.JPG?class=display)

2156 apart

(https://sharedalbums.b-cdn.net/e8114395-cf8d-4b62-b2f3-1fb545468712.jpg?class=display)

(https://sharedalbums.b-cdn.net/9105a071-332a-40e2-b718-f2df1f1b3fd6.jpg?class=display)

(https://sharedalbums.b-cdn.net/c183100c-0492-4a7a-8c4c-22e63f51ae5a.jpg?class=display)

who are we ?

That's a cool photo of the three Cobras I have not seen before, from 1963? Left to right Al Dowd, Ken Miles, 5th from the right looking down, mechanic Jack Hoare ? 

Quote from: Hov on December 02, 2023, 12:35:22 PM
That's a cool photo of the three Cobras I have not seen before, from 1963? Left to right Al Dowd, Ken Miles, 5th from the right looking down, mechanic Jack Hoare ?

Glad you enjoyed and thanks for the information  !

Well what am I looking for  ?

Yes, from 1963 as its the Cobras in the 3 Championship poster, photo used in the poster was taken at Kent, Wa. In the photo above #98 was Miles', #97 McDonald's maybe that is him 7th from the left, but not sure, #99 was driven by Holbert. Some of the other people may have worked at the ......r Co. dealership? where the cars were being serviced before their next race? Pure guesses. 

race day

CSX 2287.   Redline 7000

USRRC car 2494, circa 1990's, on a British car/bike ride organized by the Morgan and Vincent clubs in LA.

school is in session

csx 2005

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Its amazing how many old pictures the cars are at race tracks and not in a parking lot being judged.

Quote from: 68GT350roadracer on December 22, 2023, 08:37:05 AM
Its amazing how many old pictures the cars are at race tracks and not in a parking lot being judged.

    Yeah, and even though it might be 'just' a race car, being beat on the track and probably presenting something less than a perfect appearance (not yet being a million dollar collectable  ::)), notice how the spectator is examining the car (in the photo of the red #16 Cobra), that of in the proper fashion, hands behind his back, standing close but still remaining a reasonable distance and not leaning on the fender, etc.; it's called being respectful of the property of others.  :)

    Now, compare that to how the masses behave today!  :o

    Scott.

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/433916443_812367317587019_7920392481410910485_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=STfy4eKs3NQAX8D0hvP&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfBd49XhouAiXcAhb8Oz8sCyNP_j75ka_rjTMfKi4dMGOw&oe=66127AD0)

And the Ghost Busters car in the background. 

Great picture Phil

Quote from: FL SAAC on December 02, 2023, 04:34:30 PM
race day

This is CSX 2226, converted earlier in the summer of 1982 from a street car to compete in the GT1 class of SCCA racing. The photo is taken in the late summer of '82 and is at the old CDR (Continental Divide Raceway) just south of Castle Rock, CO.
Grungy guy on the left is me, the gent on the right is Grady Peacock. Driver/owner Bill Murray and crew chief Dave Murray are not shown in this photo.
Joe

take me back to then

Quote from: FL SAAC on April 12, 2024, 09:11:53 AMtake me back to then

Yes, please take me back ... was 15 at that time and lived about 12 miles away from Robie Ford ... if I only knew ... and had the money ... and a license.  ::)  :P

Fred

I know the feeling, my crystal ball broke that week......

Quote from: Hipo-Fred on April 12, 2024, 10:14:47 AMYes, please take me back ... was 15 at that time and lived about 12 miles away from Robie Ford ... if I only knew ... and had the money ... and a license.  ::)  :P

Fred

Cogito Ergo Zoom