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The Cars => 1967 Shelby GT350/500 => Topic started by: Richstang on December 07, 2018, 12:25:04 PM

Title: ’67 Ford Documents Wanted “Special Vehicle Order and Part Specification”
Post by: Richstang on December 07, 2018, 12:25:04 PM
“SVO” or “SVO&PS” sheets are also known as the “add/delete” sheets coveted by ’67 Shelby owners as additional Ford Factory paperwork for their cars. These SVO sheets note the DSO number and the specific options added to this group of cars. It lists the total number of units, a breakdown of each unit by paint color and code, and all the part numbers added or deleted for Ford’s San Jose factory. As production of these base units continued through the model year many parts changed, some were added, and others were deleted. It was all done to help streamline the efforts of the finishing production line at Shelby American saving both time and costs.

A post on the “Shelby Forums” over ten years ago appears to have helped bring many of them out of hiding. Now I’m hoping to take it a step further and find even more of them or improved legible versions.  I’ll start a list here shortly of known copies to help.

Specially, I’m trying to help Dave resolve some questions about DSO 2534, 2536, 2538, and 2540 which appear to have some Ford data issues. If you have a copy of these SVO sheets please let me know ASAP. I’ll forward you my email if you would send me a copy.

Here’s an example of the first page of an SVO sheet for DSO 89-2609. You can see many of the details I previously noted. This copy is one of the better ones I’ve seen. It’s said these can be found under the rear seat cushion, or under the foot areas of the carpeting.


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Title: Re: ’67 Ford Documents Wanted “Special Vehicle Order and Part Specification”
Post by: Richstang on December 08, 2018, 11:06:09 AM
I have complete sets of the following SVO "Add / Delete" sheets for DSOs;
84-2536 original copy
84-2549 retyped copy (kindly recreated to help read the details)
84-2555 original copy
84-2571 original copy
84-2572 original copy
84-2590 original copy (very faint copy; missing last page #8)
84-2591 original copy
84-2596 original copy
89-2606 original copy (dark copy with stained markings on page 1)
89-2608 (marked with a water stain on each page) added 1/1/2019
89-2609 (heavily marked with a water stain on bottom on each page)
89-2801 (missing page 1, have page 2-5) T/A coupe


Here are the SVO sheets that we only have the first page, for DSO's;
84-2562 original page 1 & 2 (could use larger copy to ease reading)
89-2580 original page 1 only (very dark poor copy)
89-2602 original page 1 & 8 (blurred copy)
89-2604 original page 1 (heavily stained)
Title: Re: ’67 Ford Documents Wanted “Special Vehicle Order and Part Specification”
Post by: Road Reptile on December 10, 2018, 07:54:50 PM
Hi Rich,
I think Jeff S has the biggest collection of these sheets. Maybe check the concourse mustang website or Jeff directly....Hope this helps
R.R.
Title: Re: ’67 Ford Documents Wanted “Special Vehicle Order and Part Specification”
Post by: Richstang on December 10, 2018, 11:40:48 PM
Hi Rich,
I think Jeff S has the biggest collection of these sheets. Maybe check the concourse mustang website or Jeff directly....Hope this helps
R.R.

Thanks R.R.
I checked the concours website for related posts. None were posted. Jeff sent me a PM that he had the first page of the SVO sheet for DSO 84-2536. It will help, but we still need to find the other pages of it and other SVO sheets. Of course I’d love to find the SVO sheets for all the DSOs as well.


Everyone,
We’re trying to resolve a Ford specific data conflict where some packages and trim codes were intermixed in a single DSO. That breaks a production line rule of one package and one trim per DSO. These Ford conflicts were found on three DSOs all built at San Jose at the same time, right after the New Year.

Brian Styles has a post in his Google Group that digs deeper into this topic for those interested.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/shelbyresearch/43mJlQH5qL0

The registry can only report the data as found in the Shelby American records. It is very clear this was NOT a registry error! It is a Ford data conflict!
Other possible answers may be found in Marti Reports from these same DSO’s (cars from DSO 84-2534, 84-2536, 84-2538, and 84-2540)
If anyone might have Marti’s from them please let me know. 

Thanks for any help or leads.
Title: Re: ’67 Ford Documents Wanted “Special Vehicle Order and Part Specification”
Post by: Richstang on December 11, 2018, 07:25:05 PM
I have a question for any ex/retired Ford employees. 

On the above SVO sheet, it lists a "Decent. date" and a "Cent. date" in the header.
Does anyone know what those abbreviations stand for?

Here's yet another post by Brian where he's trying to sort out the document flow by dates.
I don't have an answer for him, but maybe someone here does.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/shelbyresearch/J8Pchjpji1w
Title: Re: ’67 Ford Documents Wanted “Special Vehicle Order and Part Specification”
Post by: Bossbill on December 14, 2018, 08:54:05 PM
The Google doc lists what the abbreviations stand for:
    SVO Cent (Centralized Equipment Availability)   [date]               
    SVO Decent (Decentralized Equipment Availability) [date]
but that doesn't help me understand what that means!
Title: Re: ’67 Ford Documents Wanted “Special Vehicle Order and Part Specification”
Post by: Richstang on December 14, 2018, 09:11:49 PM
Bill,
Thank You for sending those SVO sheets for the two different DSO's. (I got sidetracked from updating the list in reply #1).

I did see those full names for the two abbreviations, but like you I'm not really sure what they mean!
Maybe they are related to part shipments?
Can anyone help?

Title: Re: ’67 Ford Documents Wanted “Special Vehicle Order and Part Specification”
Post by: Richstang on January 01, 2019, 01:54:06 PM
Updated list in reply #1
Title: Re: ’67 Ford Documents Wanted “Special Vehicle Order and Part Specification”
Post by: gt350hr on January 02, 2019, 03:01:41 PM
   Rich,
     I have an original of  84-2598 , a group of automatic 350s and I can tie it to a specific car. Dates on papers - decent date 4-14 cent date 4-12 and sched date 4-20. I'll be glad to send you a copy . PM me where.
  Randy
Title: Re: ’67 Ford Documents Wanted “Special Vehicle Order and Part Specification”
Post by: Richstang on January 10, 2019, 01:53:24 PM
updated the SVO build sheet list in reply #1.
 :)
Title: Re: ’67 Ford Documents Wanted “Special Vehicle Order and Part Specification”
Post by: gt350hr on January 11, 2019, 12:06:38 PM
Bill,
Thank You for sending those SVO sheets for the two different DSO's. (I got sidetracked from updating the list in reply #1).

I did see those full names for the two abbreviations, but like you I'm not really sure what they mean!
Maybe they are related to part shipments?
Can anyone help?

       Mt educated guess would be location of the parts. Centralized could mean  "in stock" or already "in company". Decentralized "could " mean outside sourced or not in company ( warehouse) as in sub assembly supplier .
     Randy
Title: Re: ’67 Ford Documents Wanted “Special Vehicle Order and Part Specification”
Post by: Richstang on January 18, 2019, 02:53:22 PM
UPDATED list in reply #2;
 
More copies have been received (including some partial pages). 
Thank You “SFM66H”, Joe B, and “Road Reptile”!

These SVO documents range between 6 and 8 pages for each DSO. The later SVOs have more pages.
Some re-typed SVOs are circulating around. They were kindly re-created way back, where originals were too poor to be able to read.
Fortunately we are finding some originals in improved versions of them too.
There has been one altered cover page found. Thankfully we have the original version that proves it.

It appears these SVOs match the DSOs in number of units, package, trim, and paint quantity breakdown.
However they are more detailed with all the added and deleted parts (by Ford) listed by code and part numbers.

Title: Re: ’67 Ford Documents Wanted “Special Vehicle Order and Part Specification”
Post by: Richstang on January 30, 2019, 11:26:41 PM
List updated (reply #2)

Today I received the SVO pages of DSO 89-2801. Only page 1 was missing (anyone have it to share?). Page 2-5 were included.
The cars on this DSO group were actually the ‘67 Shelby T/A Coupes. I’m told 5 cars were in this group.


I would be happy to just get the first page, or partial pages of a set, for any of the SVO/DSO groups not listed.
Thanks as always.
Title: Re: ’67 Ford Documents Wanted “Special Vehicle Order and Part Specification”
Post by: charlie D on February 01, 2019, 12:33:28 PM
Not the document you are currently researching, but if you are interested in documents here is a copy of the invoice from Shelby to the dealer. It was in the glove box of the car when purchased new.
Title: Re: ’67 Ford Documents Wanted “Special Vehicle Order and Part Specification”
Post by: Richstang on February 01, 2019, 02:46:05 PM
Charlie D, thanks for the SA invoice copy. It is helpful on some other research I'm working on too.
 8)
Title: Re: ’67 Ford Documents Wanted “Special Vehicle Order and Part Specification”
Post by: Richstang on February 14, 2019, 10:31:29 AM
I've update the list in reply #2 with the few SVO's sheet sets that we only have the first page for.
As mentioned before, this is the most useful page containing the paint quantities, various dates, etc.

Thanks to Pete, Brian, and Anthony for the continued help.
Title: Re: ’67 Ford Documents Wanted “Special Vehicle Order and Part Specification”
Post by: Richstang on February 24, 2019, 09:57:16 PM
SVO Sheets altered;

As we continue to gather the SVO&PS “add/delete” sheets for every 1967 Shelby DSO, were continue to find more that were retyped or altered. While we can appreciate these were likely done to help read the valuable info contained within them, having an original clean copy is the preference. I will update the list on page one of this thread noting original versions as we gather them. Previously I noted the altered SVO cover sheet for DSO for 84-2572. (we now have the original version).

We’ve also discovered another altered cover SVO sheet for DSO 84-2528. Notes were hand written in place over the type data along with build dates. The correct DSO group is actually 84-2549 check the registry for your correct DSO group and unit numbers to ensure you have the correct copy. These SVO sheets are very difficult to find even today. Copies shared from many years ago were practically non-existant and in most cases used as reference for specific part numbers and information.

I hoping this will encourage anyone with these past SVO "add/delete" sheets to not only review them again, but also to share them so we can ensure they are authentic. We still need SVO sheet SETS for DSO 2534, 2536 (have cover page), 2538, & 2540. They should help to sort out the Ford issues and likely parts shortages within these groups that caused some intermixing of engine packages.

Thanks for any help with just a cover page or the whole set.
Title: Re: ’67 Ford Documents Wanted “Special Vehicle Order and Part Specification”
Post by: Road Reptile on February 26, 2019, 08:17:26 PM
Hi Rich and all 67 fans,
I have now found sheets from 84-2549 that are 7 pages and none are retyped.
Great to see these being preserved-and studied. I will send them to you so you can add to the collection.
Regards R.R.