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Title: Welcome back...
Post by: computerworks on January 19, 2018, 05:18:33 PM
Welcome back... We unfortunately had a major meltdown at the Forum server, requiring us to have a complete rebuild and reboot. Yes, we are starting from zero... consider it a reincarnation. Thanks for your patience as we continue to install and refine the Forum features.

NOTICE - ALL users must REGISTER again to restore your User Account.

PLEASE... use your ORIGINAL User Name, if you want to restore your identity.
We are on the honor system here...user name poaching will not be tolerated. If you see your old User Name was taken by someone else, send an email to pitcrew@saac.com and disputes will be resolved.
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: Don Johnston on January 20, 2018, 02:36:23 AM
Nice to have the Forum back and I appreciate all the long hours of work.  It does look like some gremlins are getting in early with some bad stuff that you might want to check.
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: tobaccokid on January 20, 2018, 07:09:52 AM
A disaster. Unfortunately it will turn off many previous and future users who may have a somewhat lower level of involvement and enthusiasm about Shelby's. This will be an unmeasurable loss to a hobby that consists of a relatively small population. Don't understand the comment about the Forum being back, there is nothing back. What is back is a completely blank slate - nothing there. A disaster.
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: Bill on January 20, 2018, 08:17:04 AM
Quote from: tobaccokid on January 20, 2018, 07:09:52 AM
A disaster. Unfortunately it will turn off many previous and future users who may have a somewhat lower level of involvement and enthusiasm about Shelby's. This will be an unmeasurable loss to a hobby that consists of a relatively small population. Don't understand the comment about the Forum being back, there is nothing back. What is back is a completely blank slate - nothing there. A disaster.

With change comes minor hiccups, like todays spammer attack as the holes in the firewall get repaired.
Give it some time, don't  make any rash decisions based on the first few days of operation.

Like myself, with countless posts and threads documenting the rebuild of my car to road worthiness,  I believe most people will view this not as a disaster, but a fresh start, both to learn from the past, and relearn in the future.
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: SteveFla on January 20, 2018, 09:00:19 AM
Im happy see the forum back. Im looking forward to connect with fellow Shelby owners as I restore my car. Im shocked that there were not any backups from the website service provider. Its sad to see many years of info gone. This is a great example of why data loss prevention is important for everyone. Thanks for all the hard work trying to fix this.
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: rkm on January 20, 2018, 09:05:58 AM
I've been through three different magazines, two forums, one big lawsuit...we're all still here.
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: computerworks on January 20, 2018, 09:14:43 AM
Quote from: tobaccokid on January 20, 2018, 07:09:52 AM
A disaster. Unfortunately it will turn off many previous and future users who may have a somewhat lower level of involvement and enthusiasm about Shelby's. This will be an unmeasurable loss to a hobby that consists of a relatively small population. Don't understand the comment about the Forum being back, there is nothing back. What is back is a completely blank slate - nothing there. A disaster.

Of course... our community is back online.
Of course... it was A DISASTER.

We'll survive.
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: highland green on January 20, 2018, 10:08:40 AM
nice to be back :D Thanks for the hard work.
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: 1969shelbygt350 on January 20, 2018, 10:14:01 AM
Great to see it back! Thanks for you'al hard work!
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: CSX 4133 on January 20, 2018, 10:21:13 AM

The hard work to reestablish this site is very much appreciated!
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: 67st102 on January 20, 2018, 10:29:52 AM
So help the forum members understand why there were not regular backups of data over the years along the way.  Its really unfortunate that so much information had to be lost forever/ disappear because a backup of data did not occur.  Was this possible to do - but just not get done - or is it more complicated than that?  And is there a plan for the backup of data going forward?  Are we learning from mistakes made or could the same thing occur going forward?  Not trying to stir the pot, just trying to understand why some preventive maintenance did not occur and therefore the lose of so much good information - which is really disappointing.  Glad its back and running again though.  Thanks for the efforts to try and recover the past.
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: computerworks on January 20, 2018, 10:34:06 AM
Quote from: 67st102 on January 20, 2018, 10:29:52 AM
So help the forum members understand why there were not regular backups of data over the years along the way.  Its really unfortunate that so much information had to be lost forever/ disappear because a backup of data did not occur.  Was this possible to do - but just not get done - or is it more complicated than that?  And is there a plan for the backup of data going forward?  Are we learning from mistakes made or could the same thing occur going forward?  Not trying to stir the pot, just trying to understand why some preventive maintenance did not occur and therefore the lose of so much good information - which is really disappointing.  Glad its back and running again though.  Thanks for the efforts to try and recover the past.

It was a perfect storm of malfunctions at the server side.
Of course, you always learn from the unexpected... new features are in place.
Thanks for your concern.
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: FL SAAC on January 20, 2018, 11:02:19 AM
Ron,

thank you for time and effort to revive the SAAC forum

good to be back
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: chris NOS on January 20, 2018, 11:07:01 AM
I missed SAAC forum , i m glad it's back, well we will have to work hard to put back some of those  so valuated infos lost in the big wash!!!!
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: alexgt350h on January 20, 2018, 11:23:42 AM
Funny, I would normally check the SAAC Forum first thing once I got logged on @ work. Since it has been down, I was forced to find other forms of entertainment. Anything but work!
Glad we are back online. I missed the daily dose of Shelby.
Brent
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: Cobra567 on January 20, 2018, 11:35:01 AM
One upside.  If I have a question I wont get told that search is my best friend any longer!  ;D
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: 557 on January 20, 2018, 11:41:35 AM
Bummer that the cached info is gone....However like a phoenix.......
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: Grumpy on January 20, 2018, 11:45:09 AM
Wow... lots of newbies in here !
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: rbarkley on January 20, 2018, 12:24:08 PM
Awesome to have the SAAC Forum back online!  Very unfortunate that we could not recover all the data.  On a positive note and as a beginner ...

I can ask all the same questions on topics that have been discussed extensively in times past, without, "please check the 'search' as this topic has been discussed numerous time before!"

Ron
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: 8T03S1425 on January 20, 2018, 12:47:00 PM
Dilly, dilly!
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: SHELB66 on January 20, 2018, 12:53:56 PM
My thanks to all involved in getting the site back up again.  The sweating and shaking from withdrawal is starting to subside!  Somehow my wife didn't understand the connection!  I'd much rather have a new "start from scratch" forum than no forum at all.  There's lots of info to be shared.  So let's get the show on the road and have some fun!  Who knows as maybe that dreaded "black box" where a posted picture should be will be gone!

Craig R
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: TransamEd on January 20, 2018, 01:07:20 PM
Something was missing on the web. If anybody can restore stuff from almost nothing, then it can be only the Shelby experts 8)
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: Brad Griffith on January 20, 2018, 01:52:07 PM
Quote from: computerworks on January 20, 2018, 09:14:43 AM
Quote from: tobaccokid on January 20, 2018, 07:09:52 AM
A disaster. Unfortunately it will turn off many previous and future users who may have a somewhat lower level of involvement and enthusiasm about Shelby's. This will be an unmeasurable loss to a hobby that consists of a relatively small population. Don't understand the comment about the Forum being back, there is nothing back. What is back is a completely blank slate - nothing there. A disaster.

Of course... our community is back online.
Of course... it was A DISASTER.

We'll survive.

And Thrive! Thank you for your efforts on our behalf!
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: Dan Case on January 20, 2018, 02:22:49 PM
Thanks for all the work it took.

I will speak for myself here but this is a chance to leave behind older information that was not up to the current state of understanding / documentation. Even technical posts I have made in the past needed to be revised or an update added as the data bases got added to and scrubbed from time to time. Even if the last post in a thread, even one I started, brought readers up to date days, weeks, or all the way to years later it was still somewhat confusing at times to go through outdated information first and that assumes readers took the time to read every post in order AND get to the updated end.
Dan
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: Illinicane on January 20, 2018, 02:27:46 PM

Nice to have the forum back, even if its a reboot. 

Thanks to Ron and all involved. 

You are not taken for granted!!

Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: SFM6S087 on January 20, 2018, 03:24:49 PM
Quote from: computerworks on January 20, 2018, 10:34:06 AM
Quote from: 67st102 on January 20, 2018, 10:29:52 AM
So help the forum members understand why there were not regular backups of data over the years along the way.  Its really unfortunate that so much information had to be lost forever/ disappear because a backup of data did not occur.  Was this possible to do - but just not get done - or is it more complicated than that?  And is there a plan for the backup of data going forward?  Are we learning from mistakes made or could the same thing occur going forward?  Not trying to stir the pot, just trying to understand why some preventive maintenance did not occur and therefore the lose of so much good information - which is really disappointing.  Glad its back and running again though.  Thanks for the efforts to try and recover the past.

It was a perfect storm of malfunctions at the server side.
Of course, you always learn from the unexpected... new features are in place.
Thanks for your concern.

It's wonderful to have the forum back online, and you & everyone involved are greatly appreciated. But I suspect that this recent hiccup may discourage some people from putting much time and work into future posts – for fear it may all simply disappear again.

Can you add any to your explanation, and possibly give us an insight into some of the precautions being taken to try to avert this kind of thing in the future? I know there are no 100% guarantees, but some reasonable assurance that new processes are in place to safeguard against future disasters would be comforting.

I'm here no matter what because this is simply the best place in the world to communicate with fellow Shelby enthusiasts. THANK YOU for all your hard work on behalf of the Shelby community.

BTW, it's funny to see you, the Administrator, listed as a Newbie. I guess there's humor to be found in any situation if you just look hard enough.

Steve
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: Bigfoot on January 20, 2018, 03:33:10 PM
Back from the dead....
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: 557 on January 20, 2018, 04:17:55 PM
Quote from: Bigfoot on January 20, 2018, 03:33:10 PM
Back from the dead....
.     Is the skateboard icon a Powell peralta? Or?..
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: ITHERTZ on January 20, 2018, 04:19:07 PM
Glad we are back! 
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on January 20, 2018, 04:36:02 PM
Didn't realize how much the Forum was a part of my daily life until it was gone...Went through "withdrawal".  Glad it's back. No sense crying about something that's done and gone. Am trying to sift through any files I may have saved that I might be able to post.  I know I've got photos of bits and pieces that can be downloaded to the gallery.
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: 68gtcoupe on January 20, 2018, 05:40:23 PM
I'm very happy to see that the Forum is back.  The loss of data is terrible, so many years of information lost.  But we soldier on.  Thanks to everyone involved in getting things up and running again.

Terry
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: Coralsnake on January 20, 2018, 06:12:51 PM
Yes, thanks for coming back!
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: GT350Lad on January 20, 2018, 08:17:08 PM
Agree, I missed the community and it's s massive loss but hey this is a bloody strong hobby build on the back of some awesome cars and there owners. We will survive and thrive guys..
Cheers
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: mark p on January 20, 2018, 10:11:44 PM
Thanks to the "pit crew" for getting things moving again.

Wow, some very tough lessons there somewhere  :(
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: bluek on January 21, 2018, 09:19:27 AM
What a shame.. Thanks for all the hard work in restoring.  The Hipomustang site had a crash/meltdown maybe 5-6 years-ago and unfortunately it has never been the same.
Will old postings eventually be restored? 

Thanks
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: nate on January 21, 2018, 12:18:05 PM
Glad to see the Forum back up and thanks for all the hard work to get it back together! Wish there was a way to get all the valuable info back.
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: SFM6S1348 on January 21, 2018, 01:01:33 PM
Thanks for getting us back in touch with reality.

Les
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: SFM6S1348 on January 21, 2018, 01:37:58 PM
Does the Wayback machine have any archived files?
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: SFM6S1348 on January 21, 2018, 01:48:29 PM
Quote from: SFM6S1348 on January 21, 2018, 01:37:58 PM
Does the Wayback machine have any archived files?

I answered my own question after a bit of searching at least up to June 16 2017

https://web.archive.org/web/20170601000000*/http://saacforum.com/index.php?board=22.0
   


6S1348

Les
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: 2112 on January 21, 2018, 02:40:00 PM
Quote from: SFM6S1348 on January 21, 2018, 01:48:29 PM
Quote from: SFM6S1348 on January 21, 2018, 01:37:58 PM
Does the Wayback machine have any archived files?

I answered my own question after a bit of searching at least up to June 16 2017

https://web.archive.org/web/20170601000000*/http://saacforum.com/index.php?board=22.0
   


6S1348

Les

Is there a way that can be reloaded here?
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: edselwagon on January 21, 2018, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: 2112 on January 21, 2018, 02:40:00 PM
Quote from: SFM6S1348 on January 21, 2018, 01:48:29 PM
Quote from: SFM6S1348 on January 21, 2018, 01:37:58 PM
Does the Wayback machine have any archived files?

I answered my own question after a bit of searching at least up to June 16 2017

https://web.archive.org/web/20170601000000*/http://saacforum.com/index.php?board=22.0
   


6S1348

Les

Is there a way that can be reloaded here?

There should be a way to reconstruct a good portion of the site from the wayback machine and cached google pages...while i know enough to be dangerous, i don't know the best way to go about it...i found this page http://techattitude.com/tips-tricks-and-hacks/how-to-download-pages-of-a-site-from-google-cache/ (http://techattitude.com/tips-tricks-and-hacks/how-to-download-pages-of-a-site-from-google-cache/) which way or may not be helpful.  But if not for reuploading to the site, maybe someone knows how to compile an old version of the forum into a searchable text file?  just a thought.
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: computerworks on January 21, 2018, 11:24:52 PM
Quote from: edselwagon on January 21, 2018, 10:18:54 PM
There should be a way to reconstruct a good portion of the site from the wayback machine and cached google pages...while i know enough to be dangerous, i don't know the best way to go about it...i found this page http://techattitude.com/tips-tricks-and-hacks/how-to-download-pages-of-a-site-from-google-cache/ (http://techattitude.com/tips-tricks-and-hacks/how-to-download-pages-of-a-site-from-google-cache/) which way or may not be helpful.  But if not for reuploading to the site, maybe someone knows how to compile an old version of the forum into a searchable text file?  just a thought.

Wayback grabs snapshots of main pages, but rarely has the content behind them....so most are useless.

If any cached pages are found...and they contain significant info.... send the links and details to pitcrew@saac.com for evaluation.
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: 2112 on January 22, 2018, 12:49:00 AM
The George Watterson thread was mostly complete
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: jim mac on January 22, 2018, 09:35:50 AM
Good to be back, but damn, sooo much was lost....
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: Forum Guide on January 22, 2018, 10:26:02 AM
Quote from: 2112 on January 22, 2018, 12:49:00 AM
The George Watterson thread was mostly complete
If any cached pages are found...and they contain significant info.... send the links and details to pitcrew@saac.com for evaluation.
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: gt350hr on January 22, 2018, 11:23:54 AM
    Thanks for all the hard work Ron!   Only the strong survive.   While it is a disaster it will increase awareness as to just how valuable this site has become.  We remain THE number one source for  62-70  Cobras and Mustangs.
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: 2112 on January 22, 2018, 02:22:50 PM
Quote from: Forum Guide on January 22, 2018, 10:26:02 AM
Quote from: 2112 on January 22, 2018, 12:49:00 AM
The George Watterson thread was mostly complete
If any cached pages are found...and they contain significant info.... send the links and details to pitcrew@saac.com for evaluation.

I assume you saw this already;

http://web.archive.org/web/20150926150207/http://saacforum.com/index.php?topic=27706.0
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: terlingua11 on January 22, 2018, 02:24:19 PM
Just got myself back online here!
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: computerworks on January 22, 2018, 03:17:54 PM
Quote from: 2112 on January 22, 2018, 02:22:50 PM

I assume you saw this already;

http://web.archive.org/web/20150926150207/http://saacforum.com/index.php?topic=27706.0

Yes...looks like the first 4 and last 4 pages are cached... the remaining do not appear to be captured.
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: Hov on January 22, 2018, 03:30:09 PM
Nice to have the forum back, now I have a running chance to keep up with Gaines, I have 1 post so far, took me hours to come up with the two answers for the year of the KR and the rental company , I thought for sure it was 2014 and Budget ?  :-[ 
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: Rickmustang on January 22, 2018, 05:26:58 PM
I had withdrawls. Thanks for the hard work. Rick
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: ausshelby on February 08, 2018, 12:07:51 AM

Yep glad the site is running again and thanks for the hard work and hours of time trying to save the information , some days it just doesn`t work out , this site was a great source of information for everyone and especially us overseas enthusiasts and I will be happy to see it rebuild. 
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: GT350Lad on February 08, 2018, 06:23:23 AM
Quote from: ausshelby on February 08, 2018, 12:07:51 AM

Yep glad the site is running again and thanks for the hard work and hours of time trying to save the information , some days it just doesn`t work out , this site was a great source of information for everyone and especially us overseas enthusiasts and I will be happy to see it rebuild.

+1
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: gt350cs on February 08, 2018, 09:56:33 AM
After going through serious withdrawal, it is sure great to have you back in my life again.

Greatest source for Shelby information on the Interweb!

Dennis
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: mark p on February 08, 2018, 01:05:40 PM
... it is also GREAT that the speed issues are resolved!
Thanks!!
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: R Code on February 09, 2018, 09:48:56 AM
Thanks for keeping the forum alive.

Just checking back in.  Don't be alarmed, not an imposter, just misplaced my old avatar.
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: KevinMarti on February 14, 2018, 02:00:28 PM
You know, not all is lost. It is a matter of how much time you would like to spend trying to retrieve information that has been stored elsewhere. As an example: http://web.archive.org/web/20150423204831/http://saacforum.com/index.php?topic=2787.0

If you don't know how the Wayback Machine works, ask me.

Kevin Marti
Marti Auto Works
Title: Re: Welcome back...
Post by: Bigfoot on February 14, 2018, 03:30:25 PM
Cool
I probably only had like 1000 posts then....