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Title: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: SFM66H on December 18, 2018, 11:49:41 AM
Is it correct to say that the Mustang Owners Manual that came in new 65/66 GT 350's have this stamp?

The owners that I have asked about this all say that theirs doesn't. I know that may mean that their owners manuals may not be original to their cars, but I still would like to learn more about this. Did some original-to-the-car manuals perhaps not have it?

Kieth

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Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: acman63 on December 18, 2018, 11:59:15 AM
6S1350  had the stamp
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: s2ms on December 18, 2018, 12:22:53 PM
Original manual for 6S1757 has the stamp on all warranty pages. Second printing, Jan. 1966.
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: GT350Lad on December 18, 2018, 01:09:37 PM
First printing manual for 6S373 doesn't have any stamps
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: SFM66H on December 18, 2018, 01:12:55 PM
Quote from: s2ms on December 18, 2018, 12:22:53 PM
Original manual for 6S1757 has the stamp on all warranty pages. Second printing, Jan. 1966.

Well, that I did not know - Thanks!

Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: GT350Lad on December 18, 2018, 03:04:15 PM
Was there a poll for this on the old forum?
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: 6s1640 on December 18, 2018, 03:16:07 PM
IIRC, the warranty for the 66 GT350's was covered in the supplemental manual, thus the VOID for G.T. 350 in the Mustang manual.

The Mustang manual should have also been filled out by the selling dealer with SAI VIN as warranty number, owner and dealer info and usually the ignition/door and trunk key numbers.

Cory
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: Bob Gaines on December 18, 2018, 09:53:54 PM
Liability for the warranty if the stamp was not done in the book is a logical incentive to have it stamped. It was supposed to have been done. If no stamp most likely a replacement book. Not to say it is not beyond the realm of possibility to not have it stamped but highly unlikely given the stakes involved.
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: GT350Lad on December 18, 2018, 10:00:30 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on December 18, 2018, 09:53:54 PM
Liability for the warranty if the stamp was not done in the book is a logical incentive to have it stamped. It was supposed to have been done. If no stamp most likely a replacement book. Not to say it is not beyond the realm of possibility to not have it stamped but highly unlikely given the stakes involved.

Thanks Bob, I meant that my GT350 owners manual isn't stamped and my mustang one is missing  :)
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: Bob Gaines on December 18, 2018, 10:23:15 PM
Quote from: GT350Lad on December 18, 2018, 10:00:30 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on December 18, 2018, 09:53:54 PM
Liability for the warranty if the stamp was not done in the book is a logical incentive to have it stamped. It was supposed to have been done. If no stamp most likely a replacement book. Not to say it is not beyond the realm of possibility to not have it stamped but highly unlikely given the stakes involved.

Thanks Bob, I meant that my GT350 owners manual isn't stamped and my mustang one is missing  :)
No reason for it to be stamped in the GT350 manual but important to be stamped in the regular Mustang manual.
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: GT350Lad on December 19, 2018, 12:55:52 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on December 18, 2018, 10:23:15 PM
Quote from: GT350Lad on December 18, 2018, 10:00:30 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on December 18, 2018, 09:53:54 PM
Liability for the warranty if the stamp was not done in the book is a logical incentive to have it stamped. It was supposed to have been done. If no stamp most likely a replacement book. Not to say it is not beyond the realm of possibility to not have it stamped but highly unlikely given the stakes involved.

Thanks Bob, I meant that my GT350 owners manual isn't stamped and my mustang one is missing  :)
No reason for it to be stamped in the GT350 manual but important to be stamped in the regular Mustang manual.

Yeah that makes sense, thanks, Brain running a bit slow today. And what about the cars with locker rear ends, I remember a manual with a stamp on the front?
Cheers
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: 6s1640 on December 19, 2018, 01:46:39 AM
Hi GT350Lad,

The Detroit Locker instruction manual "NoSPIN" was stamped "GT350 SILENT TYPE" which is ironic, because it was not silent, but was advertised as quieter than the standard type.  Inside the manual, it advises the new car owner not to worry if they hear a clunking sound out of the rear when making slow turns. (Not those exact words.) You can see one from the 5s003 website.

http://1965gt350mustang.com/litmem/lm12.html

The GT350 supplemental also advises the new car owner that ".....the No-SPIN produces an audible sound, as it reacts to demands of the different speeds of the rear wheels.  Do not be alarmed by this noise."  (Exact words.)

Cory
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: GT350Lad on December 19, 2018, 04:27:52 AM
Thanks Cory, that website is informative, yeah silent until you think you have dropped your rear end at the lights!

Cheers
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: SFM6S087 on December 19, 2018, 04:48:52 AM
I view this like the rear GT350 emblem – all the cars were supposed to have one, but some didn't. Likewise, all the cars should have had this stamp in the Mustang manual, but some didn't. How many and why? We'll probably never know.

At least that was my conclusion when this was discussed on Forum 1.0.

Steve
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: tesgt350 on December 19, 2018, 07:29:27 AM
SO, say I am at an Automotive Swap Meet. I find a Vendor that has TWO nice used original 66 Mustang Manuals in the same condition.  One has the Stamp the other does not.  The one WITH the Stamp is then for sure from a GT 350? the one with out might be from a GT 350 but most likely not.  SO, the one WITH the Stamp is more Valuable? If so by how much?
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: 6s1640 on December 19, 2018, 01:11:31 PM
Hi Tesgt350,

Both those owners manuals should also have the owner/dealer info filled out with the SAI VIN as the warranty number.  This is the only way to prove an original Mustang owners manual came from a GT350, assuming no tampering.  I would value them equally because they both have the same pedigree.  However, the stamping would add value.  I do not recall ever seeing an original manual offered for sale.  Vern might have an idea.

Cory
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: s2ms on December 19, 2018, 01:43:16 PM
In addition to what Cory said, you also need to determine if the Mustang manual is indeed an original, repros have been around a long time.
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: GT350Lad on December 19, 2018, 01:58:24 PM
Yeah I have never seen a stamped manual for sale or many pics. Someone amongst us may share some pics. Value?
Cheers
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: gt350hr on December 19, 2018, 04:56:10 PM
Quote from: 6s1640 on December 19, 2018, 01:11:31 PM
Hi Tesgt350,

Both those owners manuals should also have the owner/dealer info filled out with the SAI VIN as the warranty number.  This is the only way to prove an original Mustang owners manual came from a GT350, assuming no tampering.  I would value them equally because they both have the same pedigree.  However, the stamping would add value.  I do not recall ever seeing an original manual offered for sale.  Vern might have an idea.

Cory

   +2  Wise advice from Cory! IMHO you would be hard pressed to find one in a Hertz car. (I am aware some did). Mine for example had the GT350 manual (1st printing , no holes) but not the Mustang manual. 6S477 is the number.
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: SFM6S087 on December 21, 2018, 01:15:59 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on December 18, 2018, 09:53:54 PM
Liability for the warranty if the stamp was not done in the book is a logical incentive to have it stamped. It was supposed to have been done. If no stamp most likely a replacement book. Not to say it is not beyond the realm of possibility to not have it stamped but highly unlikely given the stakes involved.

I know of a carryover with its original Mustang Owners Manual. It has the Owner Identification information filled in - including the VIN, owner name, dealer name, etc. That manual does not have the VOID stamp in it. So the exceptions are out there.

Steve
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: Bob Gaines on December 21, 2018, 01:43:10 AM
Quote from: SFM6S087 on December 21, 2018, 01:15:59 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on December 18, 2018, 09:53:54 PM
Liability for the warranty if the stamp was not done in the book is a logical incentive to have it stamped. It was supposed to have been done. If no stamp most likely a replacement book. Not to say it is not beyond the realm of possibility to not have it stamped but highly unlikely given the stakes involved.

I know of a carryover with its original Mustang Owners Manual. It has the Owner Identification information filled in - including the VIN, owner name, dealer name, etc. That manual does not have the VOID stamp in it. So the exceptions are out there.

Steve
Always are exceptions which is why I stated "Not to say it is not beyond the realm of possibility to not have it stamped" to cover that small but ever present percentage.
Title: Re: Mustang Owners Manual Stamp in GT 350's
Post by: 6s1640 on December 21, 2018, 12:45:21 PM
Quote from: SFM6S087 on December 21, 2018, 01:15:59 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on December 18, 2018, 09:53:54 PM
Liability for the warranty if the stamp was not done in the book is a logical incentive to have it stamped. It was supposed to have been done. If no stamp most likely a replacement book. Not to say it is not beyond the realm of possibility to not have it stamped but highly unlikely given the stakes involved.

I know of a carryover with its original Mustang Owners Manual. It has the Owner Identification information filled in - including the VIN, owner name, dealer name, etc. That manual does not have the VOID stamp in it. So the exceptions are out there.

Steve

I think that means this car has the rare stamp delete option for the "VOID for G.T.350 Mustang owners manual. ;)

Cory