Check this out:
https://youtu.be/HYa3T0a862A
That is pretty good! I wonder if he would have the same reaction with this one!
IMO, anyone over 40-ish growed up chomping at the bit to drive a manual tranny. Man, I couldn't wait!! I actually took the lame 3 sp AT out of my first car and went through the pains of putting a 4 speed in.
The Millenials, Generation Z crowd, etc., for the most part, don't even know what a stick shift is. Most have heard of them but never seen one and really don't care. Hell, most don't even want to drive at 16, they'd rather their Mommies or Daddy's take them everywhere.
Times sure have changed.
Manual Transmission= Millennial anti-theft device.
My daughter is 18 and when she was younger she saw dad driving a MT so she was always bugging me to teach her to drive one. When she was 15 and working on getting her drivers licence I took her out a ton of times in my 2007 Shelby GT-H 5 spd stick and she had the experience of driving a MT (man those were herky, jerky drives with lots of stalls). She now owns a little Suzuki with a MT. She drivers herself everywhere and for me, it's awesome.
Guess I raised my daughter well.
QSS
QSS I did the same thing with my older two daughters. My oldest now drives a MT in here daily driver. All her friends including guys are so impressed. I think she loves the attention.
I love rowing through the gears in my Cobra Jet whenever I take it out for a bun roast. However, for daily driving, stop and go traffic and the daily commute to work, give me the automatic every time.
My niece turned 15 last Friday. I offered to teach her how to drive with one caveat - she had to learn on a stick. She's always up for a challenge so she said yes.
We've already had a turn on our UTV over a little course I set up so she could get the basics of handling a vehicle and the next step is the tractor so she can get the feel of the clutch. Once she's mastered that I will put her in the 2009 Bullitt. If she successfully masters all of these and shows me that she has the interest, then it's behind the wheel of the Shelby. We'll see how far she gets!
I learned at 14. I never had a vehicle with an automatic transmission until I was in my mid to late 20's. I even took my driver's test in a vehicle with a manual transmission. I wound up with a 99. I guess she couldn't allow a 16 year old 100%.
-Keith
Just saw a review of the 2020 GT-500 - auto only - no manual?
Quote from: Vcode on January 15, 2019, 08:22:25 AM
Just saw a review of the 2020 GT-500 - auto only - no manual?
not as of today
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a25862095/2020-ford-mustang-shelby-gt500-photos-info/A
"I'm out" due to the fact that there is no manual and that silly little rotary shift wheel on the center console. Paddle shift is fine but you gotta have an optional stick for the purists. Isn't the target market for the GT500 the 45 year old and up demographic who has the money to spend on this type of car? The majority in that demographic would like to row through the gears on a stick. Am I wrong?
What am I missing?
QSS
Haven't many of the high power exotics gone into electric paddle shift autos for sometime now?
Quote from: Don Johnston on January 15, 2019, 07:29:15 PM
Haven't many of the high power exotics gone into electric paddle shift autos for sometime now?
yesah!-
More on the 2020.
http://2020gt500.ford.com/Y2019/default.aspx?cks=47629249500&emailid=19q1_ford_hxxx_feb_nl
sedate but vicious at the same time
i will call it sibyl...
Quote from: Vcode on February 26, 2019, 06:17:16 AM
More on the 2020.
http://2020gt500.ford.com/Y2019/default.aspx?cks=47629249500&emailid=19q1_ford_hxxx_feb_nl
At 15, I always wanted a 55 through 57 T-Bird. At 17, I bought one. It was a 55 Goldenrod Yellow 3 speed manual. I never drove a manual. I asked my friend how you drive one and he told me to learn to feel the grab of the clutch, he was 16. Before getting the money up for the car, I was "thinking" how a manual works, hmmmm, I thought if I think like a automatic, I think I can do this! But dealing with the clutch, hmmmm, and timing the same foot that is on that brake pedal.....wow, how do I do that?!?!?!? OK the day came my friend in his 66 Mustang convertible with an auto, yes the same kid who told me what to do....took me over to get the car! No, I did not think, hey, he's driving a auto! Anyway, we got there, I got behind the wheel of that 55 Bird, and drove it home with little issues. Took it out and "practiced" with it and NEVER looked back, for me it was just using common sense and thinking about it. Over the years many cars of mine were and are 4 speeds, 5 speeds, and 6 speeds! Love them! And yes some are autos, but that is just life, I guess....on the 24th of March I will be 60! WOW, when they say, "Time flies" I now know what they were saying! Gone is the T-Bird, but here are other cars! But one thing from the past is still with me, my love of cars! AND yes I still keep in touch with my friend who told me about that clutch thing!
Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on January 13, 2019, 09:28:47 PM
Manual Transmission= Millennial anti-theft device.
Try renting a car anywhere in Europe.
My "REAL" car has a 4spd.,my driver Toyota is an auto.works perfectly....
+1
If you haven't driven a car with a PK trans yet, you should. Once you do, you will realize exactly how obsolete a manual is.
To each his own however a manual for me is part of the fun. Autos may be faster than stick but it is not all about speed for me and I think the old gated shifters are the best looking things you will ever find in a car (supermodels not included).
The wonderful thing about a clutch is that it lets YOU decide when to spin the tires.....
Quote from: pchmotoho on March 08, 2019, 10:26:21 AM
To each his own however a manual for me is part of the fun. Autos may be faster than stick but it is not all about speed for me and I think the old gated shifters are the best looking things you will ever find in a car (supermodels not included).
+1 Making me wish even more that the 2020 GT500 had one. (The part about the supermodel too.)
Our daughter is now 45 and learned on a 4 speed. She traded her sailboat for a 67 VW when she was 15 and learned to drive it in the backyard - only cost me one gate. Her first 4 cars were stick. VW - 2 Merkur's and her first new car a Ford Escape. Her life lesson with the Escape was you can't launch & retrieve an 18' ski boat with a baby 4 cylinder and expect the clutch to last. She still has an early RHD Mini that her son will learn to drive a stick with.
Quote from: shelbydoug on March 08, 2019, 08:26:48 AM
If you haven't driven a car with a PK trans yet, you should. Once you do, you will realize exactly how obsolete a manual is.
PK? Explain for us (
Not so use to the lingo) persons ;D
BTW Fran, cool story 8)
Quote from: 69mach351w on March 09, 2019, 07:18:57 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on March 08, 2019, 08:26:48 AM
If you haven't driven a car with a PK trans yet, you should. Once you do, you will realize exactly how obsolete a manual is.
PK? Explain for us (Not so use to the lingo) persons ;D
BTW Fran, cool story 8)
PDK. My keyboard sticks...just some of the keys. I didn't think anyone paid any attention to what I write?
https://autoweek.com/article/technology/what-pdk-autoweek-explains
It's a manual dual disk transmission without a clutch pedal and can shift itself via the CPU. The P just stuck but I caught it in time.
In the case of the Porsche if you need a new clutch I think you need to send the car back to Bavaria and have Hans fix it? It's all apparently done on a need to know basis. You need some sort of security clearance to get the shop manual for it?
The only problem other then that is what you do with your left foot.
I tried continuously to out think it but it always beat me to the punch. Also it made no mistakes. Me? Hum?
Good article. Thanks SD 8)
Quote from: Vcode on February 26, 2019, 06:17:16 AM
More on the 2020.
http://2020gt500.ford.com/Y2019/default.aspx?cks=47629249500&emailid=19q1_ford_hxxx_feb_nl
Wow, LOL, what a beast!!
It's not an automatic in the traditional sense.
I'm as stubborn as they come. My recommendation would be for you to drive one and wrestle with your own inner demons.
Just keep thinking of Darth Vadar bringing you over to the dark side? Exactly what is blasphemy?
LOL!!
Quote from: 69mach351w on March 09, 2019, 07:54:06 AM
Quote from: Vcode on February 26, 2019, 06:17:16 AM
More on the 2020.
http://2020gt500.ford.com/Y2019/default.aspx?cks=47629249500&emailid=19q1_ford_hxxx_feb_nl
Wow, LOL, what a beast!!
For sure!
Can you imagine a CVT what a horrible gig that is to drive.