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Title: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: Corey Bowcutt on February 25, 2019, 08:25:05 AM
I purchased from NPD a "correct" speckled burtex trunk mat for my 1968 GT350.  I tried installing it and there are fit issues.  Where the mat meets the taillight panel it appears too long.  Do folks trim this or just let it roll up as shown in the picture.  There is also a tricky corner that bunches a bit in the upper left corner when looking into the trunk where the mat makes the transition from the lower fuel tank floor to the upper trunk sheet metal.  Do folks do some trimming here or just let it bunch?

Thank you, Corey
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 25, 2019, 03:48:29 PM
Quote from: Corey Bowcutt on February 25, 2019, 08:25:05 AM
I purchased from NPD a "correct" speckled burtex trunk mat for my 1968 GT350.  I tried installing it and there are fit issues.  Where the mat meets the taillight panel it appears too long.  Do folks trim this or just let it roll up as shown in the picture.  There is also a tricky corner that bunches a bit in the upper left corner when looking into the trunk where the mat makes the transition from the lower fuel tank floor to the upper trunk sheet metal.  Do folks do some trimming here or just let it bunch?

Thank you, Corey
Just like with a restored car where the workmanship is typically better then the factory the things you described could vary from mat to mat to some degree. There are better fitting mats and worse fitting mats.The factory did not however do any extra trimming . With that said if you can change the look without leaving evidence that trimming was done then it shouldn't be a problem. In concours judging for instance you have to consider the range and only deduct for something that is way outside the normal.I hope this was helpful.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on February 25, 2019, 09:58:54 PM
That's not the correct mat.  Is that one black on the backside?
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: Corey Bowcutt on February 25, 2019, 10:02:20 PM
Yes it is. Would love to know why? It was sure advertised as being correct in the NPD catalog.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on February 25, 2019, 10:10:45 PM
ACC makes the correct one that actually is OE material and contours. I posted a picture of my trunk finished. It's made of burtex, like the originals.  It's been in the last few days.
                                                                                       -Keith
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: Corey Bowcutt on February 25, 2019, 10:23:50 PM
Hmmm, I guess I really have no idea what burtex is but this was advertised as burtex as well. So much I do not know.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on February 25, 2019, 10:24:28 PM
If it is black on the bottom, it's not correct.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: Corey Bowcutt on February 25, 2019, 10:25:59 PM
What color should the bottom be?
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on February 25, 2019, 11:38:12 PM
I borrowed this from another post. This is what the Burtex looks like on the back.

                                                               -Keith
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 26, 2019, 12:28:55 AM
Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on February 25, 2019, 09:58:54 PM
That's not the correct mat.  Is that one black on the backside?
Keith, some early 68's used the plaid mat like 67 but most later Metuchen cars used a speckled mat like the OP posted. The speckled mat is not Burtex originally. It is a multi colored fiber on the back side . At least the originals are. I am not sure about the good repros.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on February 26, 2019, 02:35:56 AM
I have a plaid mat. I didn't remember when they went to the speckled pattern. However, they are still molded mats.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: J_Speegle on February 26, 2019, 04:25:23 AM
Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on February 26, 2019, 02:35:56 AM
I have a plaid mat. I didn't remember when they went to the speckled pattern. However, they are still molded mats.


There is also that dark felt looking version also.   68 was an interesting year. Know we posted pictures of each, just can't recall if its been reposted since the forum dump
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: Coralsnake on February 26, 2019, 07:56:56 AM
I have not seen the plaid 1968 NJ mats. But, if Mr Gaines says he has, I believe him.

Burtex tends to look like a very thick felt on the backside. The colors vary. The reproduction mats are more of a pressed straw, light brown, look to me. The originals were molded. One of the problems with cutting the mats is every car is a little different. I have a few originals (of each bodystyle) that I use for reference.

I am not sure what the reproduction mats use for a pattern.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: Corey Bowcutt on February 26, 2019, 10:59:19 AM
I spoke with NPD and they in fact sent me the wrong mat.  They sent me a vinyl one where I ordered a Burtex one.  I had no idea what Burtex was so when it arrived I did not know it was incorrect.  So I am returning it and going to buy directly from ACC because they have one listed specifically for 1968 GT350 so I feel better about that.  The Burtex ones sold by NPD actually do come from ACC but NPD does not list the one specifically for the 1968 GT350 like the ACC web site does.

I do love this forum for all the help it gives me!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on February 26, 2019, 03:31:34 PM
Corey will be soon entering his car in concours  ;D
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: Corey Bowcutt on February 26, 2019, 03:42:28 PM
Not even close Steve but I do enjoy correcting as much as I reasonably can.  I am afraid the judges would tear my car apart although I would value their opinion and would learn a lot from the experience.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: GT350AUS on February 26, 2019, 04:36:30 PM
What and who's ACC..pardon my ignorance
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 26, 2019, 04:39:21 PM
Quote from: GT350AUS on February 26, 2019, 04:36:30 PM
What and who's ACC..pardon my ignorance
ACC = Auto Custom Carpets.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: GT350AUS on February 26, 2019, 05:24:57 PM
Thanks for the reply.

And is the mat the same across the board.......GT 500/500KR
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 26, 2019, 05:38:31 PM
Quote from: GT350AUS on February 26, 2019, 05:24:57 PM
Thanks for the reply.

And is the mat the same across the board.......GT 500/500KR
In regards to the speckled mats which is what I think you are referring to , the same mat goes in a fastback regardless of if GT350 or GT500 KR.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: 2112 on March 14, 2019, 02:29:19 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-1967-1968-MUSTANG-SHELBY-TRUNK-MAT-FASTBACK-C7ZZ-6345456-AIP-GT-350-500/223447103635?hash=item34067c3893:g:S3QAAOSwHDdciV1w

No affiliation
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: Coralsnake on March 14, 2019, 07:55:08 AM
The mat is thesame, but we should also note the convertible and fastback mats are different shapes
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: JWH on March 14, 2019, 12:09:22 PM
I was shopping for an ACC made trunk mat and stumbled onto this distributor of ACC products. The prices are much lower than going to ACC direct so thought i would pass along...
https://www.ocautocarpets.com/
Jeff
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: Bob Gaines on March 14, 2019, 12:35:42 PM
Quote from: JWH on March 14, 2019, 12:09:22 PM
I was shopping for an ACC made trunk mat and stumbled onto this distributor of ACC products. The prices are much lower than going to ACC direct so thought i would pass along...
https://www.ocautocarpets.com/
Jeff
I didn't see where the description mentioned if the mat is plaid or speckled. Given they talk about 65,66,and 67 in the same category that description of whether plaid or speckled should be clarified if ordering so that there is no surprises when the order comes.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: JWH on March 14, 2019, 06:30:36 PM
Bob, good catch. When ordering, you are forced to select plaid or speckled. There is a thumb nail picture of both and you must click on one or the other.
      In addition to Bob's point about ordering plaid or speckled, make sure to order the appropriate fastback or coupe/convertible mat.
Jeff
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: JWH on March 26, 2019, 02:44:36 PM
While doing a deep clean on my '68 GT350 #1034, built in mid December 1967, I came across this "felt" mat under the plaid vinyl mat (see attached picture). The part number stenciled as best I can read is C7ZZ-764545?-ATP. The stencil is not clear so I may have some numbers incorrect. The mat was glued to the gas tank and floor of the car. I have owned the car since 1988 and the plaid vinyl trunk mat and this "felt" mat underneath were in the car when I got it. The plaid vinyl mat has no backing and the backside is black.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: JWH on March 26, 2019, 02:46:42 PM
Here are some pictures of the plaid vinyl mat that is in my trunk...
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: Coralsnake on March 26, 2019, 02:58:50 PM
The felt mat is likely original to the car. A few cars received them, however, the speckled burtex is more common. Original it likely sat on the tank insulation.

I dont think the plaid mat is original to the car
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: J_Speegle on March 26, 2019, 04:10:16 PM
Quote from: JWH on March 26, 2019, 02:44:36 PM
While doing a deep clean on my '68 GT350 #1034, built in mid December 1967, I came across this "felt" mat under the plaid vinyl mat (see attached picture).

Stencil part number typically faces downward. Like Pete stated speckled burtex is much more common on 68 NJ cars. Must have been a secondary supplier.  Have found a fair number on 68 San Jose cars

Cool find  :)
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby trunk mat
Post by: CharlesTurner on March 26, 2019, 11:20:01 PM
The C7ZZ stenciled number would indicate a service replacement part, so I doubt it is assembly-line original to the car.