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Title: Triple serial number ?
Post by: Coralsnake on February 28, 2019, 08:03:39 AM
You might be familar with a “dual serial” number car in 1968, but has anyone here seen a “triple serial number” car?

Yes, they do exist, although they are extremely rare....



Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: Shelby6t5 Mike HHI, SC on February 28, 2019, 08:49:50 AM
What a tease

M.
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: shelbydoug on February 28, 2019, 09:01:17 AM
How are you defining this? I've seen maybe two '68 Shelbys that had the Ford number stamped, not under the Shelby VIN tag but alongside of it. It might have even been stamped there twice and is was crooked at that.

I don't remember where I saw the car but likely at one of the Conventions and on display in the Popular vote show? Maybe at one of the Charlotte's?

Is that the car(s) you are talking about? Maybe there were two? I don't remember that as an 8D car though?
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: QuickSilverShelby on February 28, 2019, 09:21:39 AM
My car has a double stamp, (same VIN stamped twice, just offset a little bit) does that count?

QSS
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: KR500 on February 28, 2019, 09:26:15 AM
You might be familar with a “dual serial” number car in 1968, but has anyone here seen a “triple serial number” car?

Yes, they do exist, although they are extremely rare....
If you mean the Ford VIN stamped 3 times on the body ( not counting buck tag, door data plate, windshield VIN tag, engine and transmission stamping ) , then yes. If you mean three different VIN's then no.
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: Coralsnake on February 28, 2019, 09:26:42 AM
Not talking about Ford VIN stampings, but the Shelby serial numbers stamped three times into the tags.

 ;)
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: KR500 on February 28, 2019, 09:32:33 AM
Same number three times? Or three different numbers?
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: Coralsnake on February 28, 2019, 09:35:28 AM
Dual serial number on one tag (as common to very early built cars) plus

A second Shelby “snake” VIN tag with the third number mounted on the door face; replacing the warranty tag
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: shelbydoug on February 28, 2019, 09:35:59 AM
Not talking about Ford VIN stampings, but the Shelby serial numbers stamped three times into the tags.

 ;)

Then no, but I want PICTURES!
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: Coralsnake on February 28, 2019, 09:38:15 AM
Okay, I can do that..
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: Coralsnake on February 28, 2019, 06:12:54 PM
Original VIN tag on inner fender apron

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/8-280219181105.jpeg)
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: Coralsnake on February 28, 2019, 06:16:00 PM

Another original tag on the back of the door, with two more serial numbers. Presto! Triple serial number car.

I believe these were built on Day 1 of production only. I suspect there are less than 20 of these cars in total.

I do have some other similar examples

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/8-280219181145.jpeg)
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: J_Speegle on February 28, 2019, 06:39:31 PM
Another original tag on the back of the door, with two more serial numbers. Presto! Triple serial number car.

What about the buck tag since we're "talking" Shelbys????? 

Quad serial number cars!!!  8)

Now if the warranty card section of the door tag was not removed - then we have 5 not counting the windowshield VIN tag :)

Have some examples also - likely some of the same you have Pete
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: KR500 on February 28, 2019, 07:03:39 PM

Another original tag on the back of the door, with two more serial numbers. Presto! Triple serial number car.

I believe these were built on Day 1 of production only. I suspect there are less than 20 of these cars in total.

I do have some other similar examples

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/8-280219181145.jpeg)
Looks to be the same (the tag) as a dual VIN car just located in a different place. I would still call it a dual serial numbered car, as it only has 2 different VIN's.
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: Coralsnake on February 28, 2019, 08:06:24 PM
Yes, but it has two VIN plates.... :D
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: KR500 on March 01, 2019, 08:44:24 AM
I was wondering on these dual serial numbered cars witch number would have been it's official titled with VIN? Anyone care to share?
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: Special Ed on March 01, 2019, 10:06:42 AM
Looks to me like an attemp to restamp & correct the dual stamped tag & how do u know which tag was where when new as cars been repainted & rivets are different?
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: Coralsnake on March 01, 2019, 10:23:54 AM
Good point, Ed. One of the other examples I have the tags are reversed, with the dual serial numbers under the hood and the single number on the door face.

I think this was day 1 attempt at vehicle ID and they quickly returned to underhood VIN and warranty plate configuration. Then the next change was to phase out the dual serial number tags all together.
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: shelbydoug on March 01, 2019, 11:30:31 AM
I find it suspicious also. If you've got "20" more then it's significant. Are early '68s missing warranty tags in large batches?

As asked previously though, I can envision an issue with the local DMV with a car with two serial numbers on the tag. It may not have been a sinister modification.
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: Coralsnake on March 01, 2019, 12:07:35 PM
There is little doubt that discountinuation of the “dual serial” tags was related to registration.

The “triple serial” number cars are merely an interesting footnote to that.
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: Chris Thauberger on March 01, 2019, 04:16:42 PM
Sure… triple serial number cars... very interesting, but... whats the temperature there today???

That's what everybody really wants to know. ::)
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: KR500 on March 01, 2019, 04:29:44 PM
No matter how you spin it this car still only has 2 different serial numbers not three.
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: shelbydoug on March 01, 2019, 05:04:51 PM
There is little doubt that discountinuation of the “dual serial” tags was related to registration.

The “triple serial” number cars are merely an interesting footnote to that.

Car(s)? You know of more then just this one?
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: Coralsnake on March 01, 2019, 05:14:50 PM
Yes, thats why I believe it was practice for a short time
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: shelbydoug on March 01, 2019, 07:17:36 PM
Yes, thats why I believe it was practice for a short time

Do you have any documentation of that, i.e., other cars done the same way?
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: Coralsnake on March 01, 2019, 07:53:30 PM
Yes, thats why I believe it was practice for a short time
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: shelbydoug on March 01, 2019, 08:16:30 PM
So where are the pictures of the other cars? What I found interesting as the Registrar was that someone had something unusual and out of the norm, they would "stay away" from me, probably under the fear that their car was either counterfeit or somehow a freak that was going to get called out as bogus and humiliated.
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: Coralsnake on March 01, 2019, 08:57:27 PM
On file with the Registrar.....and in my personal files.
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: jguyer on March 01, 2019, 09:02:57 PM
I was wondering on these dual serial numbered cars witch number would have been it's official titled with VIN? Anyone care to share?

VIN on passenger side dash is the official one.
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: shelbydoug on March 02, 2019, 09:44:14 AM
On file with the Registrar.....and in my personal files.

Well don't get in trouble. I wouldn't want you to get detention.  ;)
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: Coralsnake on March 02, 2019, 10:24:20 AM
I will post another if you like...
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: shelbydoug on March 02, 2019, 10:45:59 AM
Sounds like a great new chapter for your webpage. Post it there. I subscribe. I have my Ovaltene secret decoder ring and everything! 8)
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: gt350shelb on March 02, 2019, 07:24:08 PM
what date range?
wonder if this is why my door tag is missing
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: Coralsnake on March 02, 2019, 09:09:30 PM
You would likely see some alternate holes as well
Title: Re: Triple serial number ?
Post by: gt350shelb on March 03, 2019, 09:53:07 AM
Mine had / has glue in the same location