Does it seem that the GT500 and 500KR are down in prices being sold at auctions? even the 350 aren't bringing what they used too, I know it all goes up and down on pricing, was just curious if I'm reading the market right.
This discussion seems like it will not end.
Personally, without knowing the history of a car, how can you tell it if was a "good" buy or a "bad buy"?
Just my opinion, auctions are a terrible indication of overall prices. They can be a dumping ground for the worst the hobby has to offer
Agree with Pete... there is a huge variance on condition/quality of restoration. Most likely what is being observed as 'prices down' is due to lower quality cars being offered at auctions.
The big auctions used to happen once a year, now most companies run at least four evenly spaced.
The days of no reserve balls to the walls auctions are probaby over
It was just an observation , and everyone who owns one on this site seems to think theres is the holy grail, this is why I don't comment on anything, nothing like being picked a part by six experts...an I disagree on the auctions, at times collections are sold with some very nice cars, this is also why I haven't bought one...you should get it inspected, to have an expert tell you what you got, has there every been a car more picked over than the older Shelbys...I think there is a lot of good information here, but this isn't the place unless you have concourse car with the gods stamps of approval,,,not renewing my membership for sure.....
Good luck, I guess you didnt like the answer. Maybe someone else will share one you do like. Not really sure what concours cars have to do with this discussion? So few of those are ever sold at auction.
I guess if you want to believe because one 1968 GT500 sold for a high amount at an auction, they should all be priced that high?
And just for the record, I dont own a 1968, so it looks like you are off base there as well.
If you really want my opinion on concours, feel free to send me a private message.
Quote from: cutter on March 19, 2019, 04:57:02 PM
It was just an observation , and everyone who owns one on this site seems to think theres is the holy grail, this is why I don't comment on anything, nothing like being picked a part by six experts...an I disagree on the auctions, at times collections are sold with some very nice cars, this is also why I haven't bought one...you should get it inspected, to have an expert tell you what you got, has there every been a car more picked over than the older Shelbys...I think there is a lot of good information here, but this isn't the place unless you have concourse car with the gods stamps of approval,,,not renewing my membership for sure.....
It looks like just two so you misspoke. I don't consider myself a expert because I am still learning but you can count me too if you like . :D
I appreciate being called an "expert" but that's laughable. Perhaps more experienced?
And before you go, please know "concours" does not have an "e" at the end.
The most shocking thing I have read here is Pete does not own a 1968. You have the most amazing 1968 Shelby site and you no longer own The Coral Snake? I am shocked!
Hmm, let me look for the post from two weeks ago, where the 1968 auction prices were trending upward, "good news for all 1968 owners"
So, sorry it was a week ago. Same answer then...
http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=4444.0
You know Pete I've talked with you several times, I can say all I asked was a question, the sarcasm is totally uncalled for. I didn't know you ran this site and the saac, but thank you for inviting me to go.....as you put it....I'm only 59 but someday hope to have the knowledge of your experts.....that can argue for an hour over a hose clamp,,,no disrespect was intended but no ass kissing either...treat each other with respect instead of sarcasm is my advice. Thank you for taking the time in the past to answer my questions, ( which I'm sure you've answered a hundred times before) but you won't be bothered in the future by common folk like me....best wishes
That's not a reason to bail. You get a lot of benefits as a member like the annual book at the end of the year which is worth the cost of membership alone in my opinion. I'm not a registrar or have any input on the site. Or any proverbial dog in the fight. Just a casual observer also suggesting if the prices are down then jump in. I got my Hertz (special thanks to my father's assistance) and I don't lose any sleep over where my car's value is. They are art pieces and just looking at mine puts me in a great mood if I have a bad day. Driving it does it one better to the power of ten.
Agree on the above! I love looking at it, and driving it is even better, its about the cars. They are art! I am so happy I got a chance to own a 67 again after 25 years of not! I am back on track again and cannot wait for summer!
I apologize for my remarks, but perhaps you want to reread your posts above concours cars? People with those cars and lesser gods?
Not really sure how any of that fits in. Regardless, its probably time for a break. Im sure others would be happy to answer your questions.
I hear Florida has a great group of guys
therein lies the situation...
Quote from: cutter on March 19, 2019, 04:57:02 PM
It was just an observation , and everyone who owns one on this site seems to think theres is the holy grail, this is why I don't comment on anything, nothing like being picked a part by six experts...an I disagree on the auctions, at times collections are sold with some very nice cars, this is also why I haven't bought one...you should get it inspected, to have an expert tell you what you got, has there every been a car more picked over than the older Shelbys...I think there is a lot of good information here, but this isn't the place unless you have concourse car with the gods stamps of approval,,,not renewing my membership for sure.....
Quote from: cutter on March 19, 2019, 09:22:35 PM
You know Pete I've talked with you several times, I can say all I asked was a question, the sarcasm is totally uncalled for. I didn't know you ran this site and the saac, but thank you for inviting me to go.....as you put it....I'm only 59 but someday hope to have the knowledge of your experts.....that can argue for an hour over a hose clamp,,,no disrespect was intended but no ass kissing either...treat each other with respect instead of sarcasm is my advice. Thank you for taking the time in the past to answer my questions, ( which I'm sure you've answered a hundred times before) but you won't be bothered in the future by common folk like me....best wishes
With all due respect I think you may be taking the post too personally and should take a second look at how you felt you were slighted. I for one don't see any sarcasm in reply #1 which is what you responded to. I do see in the 1st sentence of the post frustration (not sarcasm) from Pete because of the general painting of a broad brush the sale of one or more car without any other facts for comparison. This a common occurrence that you are not alone in participating in. Sentence #2 is logical delivered fact and not sarcasm . It may be common knowledge to any well versed enthusiast or professional but the logical information was delivered in precise few words with no room for sarcasm. The 3rd sentence was indicated as personal opinion and only had the reasons for the opinion and nothing directed at you . You will only be hurting yourself if for one you think Pete was dissing you on purpose or otherwise and if you separate yourself from a valuable resource like this forum and the great people that contribute and participate here . The same can be said about ending your support for SAAC by discontinuing membership and all of the valuable advantages it helps provide. I think it is in your best interest to reconsider. I hope you do.
and again....
Quote from: cutter on March 19, 2019, 09:22:35 PM
You know Pete I've talked with you several times, I can say all I asked was a question, the sarcasm is totally uncalled for. I didn't know you ran this site and the saac, but thank you for inviting me to go.....as you put it....I'm only 59 but someday hope to have the knowledge of your experts.....that can argue for an hour over a hose clamp,,,no disrespect was intended but no ass kissing either...treat each other with respect instead of sarcasm is my advice. Thank you for taking the time in the past to answer my questions, ( which I'm sure you've answered a hundred times before) but you won't be bothered in the future by common folk like me....best wishes
why do you mention Florida?
you are so infatuated and envious of us...
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 19, 2019, 10:00:47 PM
I apologize for my remarks, but perhaps you want to reread your posts above concours cars? People with those cars and lesser gods?
Not really sure how any of that fits in. Regardless, its probably time for a break. Im sure others would be happy to answer your questions.
I hear Florida has a great group of guys
I dont comment on this forum very much, probably because of my lack of knowledge of the cars themselves. I am just shy of 59 , but I am fortunate enough to be able to have a few of these cars of my own. It is one persons choice if they want to have a Concours Car or a Daily driver or a Restomod. Lets not condemn the purist that have and preserve this site for all of us to enjoy.
There is a lot of knowledge and research that has been done by many SAAC members. Thou some might be older than others, i think all have put there time in. Enjoy the site and keep enjoying the cars , if they go up in Value or not. Thank Steve
Quote from: Steve Z on March 19, 2019, 10:26:36 PM
I dont comment on this forum very much, probably because of my lack of knowledge of the cars themselves. I am just shy of 59 , but I am fortunate enough to be able to have a few of these cars of my own. It is one persons choice if they want to have a Concours Car or a Daily driver or a Restored. Lets not condemn the purist that have and preserve this site for all of us to enjoy.
There is a lot of knowledge and research that has been done by many SAAC members. Thou some might be older than others, i think all have put there time in. Enjoy the site and keep enjoying the cars , if they go up in Value or not. Thank Steve
+ Plus Many! These cars are fun no matter what you do with them
just keep driving members away with your sarcasm and superiority complex
great job, winner !
I like driving mine,like a speedboat on the road with all that torque...different feeling...As far as value,it was cheap when I bought it and I will likely never sell it,so what's the point? Fun is underrated IMHO,so if it's not fun anymore (or makes you angry) why do it?
We have so many diverse people,with so much knowledge of different things, it would be wonderful if we could stick to our expertise with out wandering off to insult others. God knows we have car show experts- Worlds greatest 68 experts- Those that hate certain rock bands :-[, Those that hate 67s with stripes. Point being is, if those people stuck to their expertise without constant condemnation of others, it would be a better place for all. In the scheme of things we all like different things, car shows, rock bands, worlds greatest 68s etc. All these things are put out there for knowledge and understanding if your into any of it. If your not don't look at it, don't comment on it and just move along. Common sense doesn't seem common these days. To those that are pissed off, try to give it a little more time before giving us the number one salute. :-\
Lets all keep in mind that the economy is not what it use to be , which greatly affects the car market. Just my opinion. But what goes up must come down and then go up again. Maybe just to start another topic , lets talk about cars of the late 60's and early 70's. I think they will hold there values more than the 40's and 50's before this craze dies out. Look at the classic car market in 2008 when the stock market was down.
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 19, 2019, 10:25:25 PM
why do you mention Florida?
you are so infatuated and envious of us...
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 19, 2019, 10:00:47 PM
I apologize for my remarks, but perhaps you want to reread your posts above concours cars? People with those cars and lesser gods?
Not really sure how any of that fits in. Regardless, its probably time for a break. Im sure others would be happy to answer your questions.
I hear Florida has a great group of guys
Florida is a beautiful state. I was down there for the Rolex 24 when the Ford GT first raced in 2016. Amazing weather and Palm trees in late January as I recall.
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 19, 2019, 10:28:03 PM
just keep driving members away with your sarcasm and superiority complex
great job, winner !
Take it easy eleanor, your driving a bit fast for road conditions...
Quote from: 427heaven on March 19, 2019, 10:54:49 PM
We have so many diverse people,with so much knowledge of different things, it would be wonderful if we could stick to our expertise with out wandering off to insult others. God knows we have car show experts- Worlds greatest 68 experts- Those that hate certain rock bands :-[, Those that hate 67s with stripes.
:o
If the economy was what it used to be like in 1980, 66's would be 5500$ 67's would be 2500$, I personally liked that, but I also remember double digit interest rates. In the late 90's BJ made sure cars were crazy, lots of instant lottery winners with cars they had that were bringing stupid money. I didn't like that. It was not a good economy, it was bad bank loans and people using home equity loans that bought those 250K$ cars in the day, then guess what, nobody could pay those loans. Since then all presidents just kicked the can down the road. Fast Forward to now, we got an outsider trying to fix all these things but the standards, both sides, don't want that. So here we are today, the cars are coming down in value, I think that will make if better! Also, remember, kids don't know how to shift, they don't know how to work on a car, they don't care about older cars, they are a responsibility you know. They also don't want to own anything anymore.
+ 1
Quote from: shelbydoug on March 20, 2019, 08:28:00 AM
Quote from: 427heaven on March 19, 2019, 10:54:49 PM
We have so many diverse people,with so much knowledge of different things, it would be wonderful if we could stick to our expertise with out wandering off to insult others. God knows we have car show experts- Worlds greatest 68 experts- Those that hate certain rock bands :-[, Those that hate 67s with stripes.
:o
totally agree with deathsled and Frankie, this is how I look at the situation, I don't live on this site so I wouldn't have seen something posted two weeks ago, just making a comment in passing, which turned a few knobs the wrong way I guess...thanks again
Quote from: 427heaven on March 19, 2019, 10:54:49 PM
We have so many diverse people,with so much knowledge of different things, it would be wonderful if we could stick to our expertise with out wandering off to insult others. God knows we have car show experts- Worlds greatest 68 experts- Those that hate certain rock bands :-[, Those that hate 67s with stripes. Point being is, if those people stuck to their expertise without constant condemnation of others, it would be a better place for all. In the scheme of things we all like different things, car shows, rock bands, worlds greatest 68s etc. All these things are put out there for knowledge and understanding if your into any of it. If your not don't look at it, don't comment on it and just move along. Common sense doesn't seem common these days. To those that are pissed off, try to give it a little more time before giving us the number one salute. :-\
Wurd
We always seem to have a lot of economists here......
I think the spirit of where this thread is going is that we should talk about cars and keep each conversation fun and about cars.
And we don't need bashing and we don't need an economist and we need more enthusiasm like we had years ago.
Cant we please stick to our F___\\ knitting......
Like the others I think by leaving you are cutting off your nose to spite your face but that being said, if anyone is buying the cars just to turn a profit then unless you get an exceptional buy on a Shelby I doubt if you will realize a large profit if any. The reason to own a Shelby is to enjoy it and the hobby as a whole. Just my 2cents worth :)
TOB
+ 1
Quote from: TOBKOB on March 20, 2019, 09:48:18 AM
Like the others I think by leaving you are cutting off your nose to spite your face but that being said, if anyone is buying the cars just to turn a profit then unless you get an exceptional buy on a Shelby I doubt if you will realize a large profit if any. The reason to own a Shelby is to enjoy it and the hobby as a whole. Just my 2cents worth :)
TOB
Very well expressed + 1
Quote from: Bigfoot on March 20, 2019, 09:45:31 AM
We always seem to have a lot of economists here......
I think the spirit of where this thread is going is that we should talk about cars and keep each conversation fun and about cars.
And we don't need bashing and we don't need an economist and we need more enthusiasm like we had years ago.
Cant we please stick to our F___\\ knitting......
The OP's question was about the trend of certain Shelby vehicles at auction and I think it's important for the OP to understand that there are various factors affecting bidders:
1) They may have had too much to drink/or not 2) Someone else wants that same vehicle and ego gets in the equation or no one else showed up that wants the vehicle 3) The quality of the restoration/survivor 4) The history of the vehicle 5) The color of the vehicle 6) The location of the auction 7) When the vehicle is scheduled to cross the block. 8) How desperate the owner is to sell 9) What's the "latest and greatest hot ticket" 10) time of the month/position of the Moon and Stars 11) Whether or not the bidder's wife is with him...or his girlfriend...or, Heaven forbid, both! ;)
Quote from: NC TRACKRAT on March 20, 2019, 04:14:52 PM
The OP's question was about the trend of certain Shelby vehicles at auction and I think it's important for the OP to understand that there are various factors affecting bidders:
1) They may have had too much to drink/or not 2) Someone else wants that same vehicle and ego gets in the equation or no one else showed up that wants the vehicle 3) The quality of the restoration/survivor 4) The history of the vehicle 5) The color of the vehicle 6) The location of the auction 7) When the vehicle is scheduled to cross the block. 8) How desperate the owner is to sell 9) What's the "latest and greatest hot ticket" 10) time of the month/position of the Moon and Stars 11) Whether or not the bidder's wife is with him...or his girlfriend...or, Heaven forbid, both! ;)
+1 on all that. And don't forget the aggressive hyping, teases, and circus atmosphere that makes many men empty their wallets like they were at a supermodel strip club.
Quote from: Side-Oilers on March 20, 2019, 04:31:29 PM
Quote from: NC TRACKRAT on March 20, 2019, 04:14:52 PM
The OP's question was about the trend of certain Shelby vehicles at auction and I think it's important for the OP to understand that there are various factors affecting bidders:
1) They may have had too much to drink/or not 2) Someone else wants that same vehicle and ego gets in the equation or no one else showed up that wants the vehicle 3) The quality of the restoration/survivor 4) The history of the vehicle 5) The color of the vehicle 6) The location of the auction 7) When the vehicle is scheduled to cross the block. 8) How desperate the owner is to sell 9) What's the "latest and greatest hot ticket" 10) time of the month/position of the Moon and Stars 11) Whether or not the bidder's wife is with him...or his girlfriend...or, Heaven forbid, both! ;)
Agree to all that..... The bottom line is if they want that particular car they are going home with it, AHHH Auctions can be awesome. ;D
+1 on all that. And don't forget the aggressive hyping, teases, and circus atmosphere that makes many men empty their wallets like they were at a supermodel strip club.
Don't think an auction is the place if you want a good honest car..Kind of a "wham bam thank you mam" sort of thing IMHO..These things take,time ,research and close inspection if you don't want buyers remorse..Instant gratification is great and all but maybe not the best course of action if you want to find a good car. 8)
Hear that Florida is nice??....I just asked a simple question....the very first response was...how many times are we going to revisit this,,,to that I would say...every-time there is an auction. and to criticize because concourse...was missing an E....I'm sorry is sarcasm,, smartass, whatever you choose...I never made any comments to be rude, just asking a fair question, I'm not butt hurt over anything, but I'll call it as it is....I meant no disrespect to any senior member, but remember, its a website, with people on a computer behind a keyboard, there are many shelby sites one can get bashed on for free...who needs the aggravation...I would never purchase a older shelby and tell anyone here...I'm sure there are many many great members, but if you want to run of newbies....your doing a hell of a job...no worries....best wishes....
I went back and re-read the first 4 post and number 4 post by cutter is the first one to cross the line on civility. This is and will continue to be an ongoing topic because the prices are continually fluctuating so no reason to be offended by this reference. JMHO
TOB
Quote from: cutter on March 20, 2019, 10:44:21 PM
Hear that Florida is nice??....I just asked a simple question....the very first response was...how many times are we going to revisit this,,,to that I would say...every-time there is an auction. and to criticize because concourse...was missing an E....I'm sorry is sarcasm,, smartass, whatever you choose...I never made any comments to be rude, just asking a fair question, I'm not butt hurt over anything, but I'll call it as it is....I meant no disrespect to any senior member, but remember, its a website, with people on a computer behind a keyboard, there are many shelby sites one can get bashed on for free...who needs the aggravation...I would never purchase a older shelby and tell anyone here...I'm sure there are many many great members, but if you want to run of newbies....your doing a hell of a job...no worries....best wishes....
I was in the washroom, what did I miss... :o
Nuthin'
Quote from: Bigfoot on March 20, 2019, 09:45:31 AM
We always seem to have a lot of economists here......
I think the spirit of where this thread is going is that we should talk about cars and keep each conversation fun and about cars.
And we don't need bashing and we don't need an economist and we need more enthusiasm like we had years ago.
Cant we please stick to our F___\\ knitting......
Needlepoint! 8)
Basketweaving
One thing we can count on with the bulk of this group is... How much is my car worth ? - Not how much fun I am having with my car! Since the overall enjoyment of our cars have divided us into sub... sets. There will always be the group of people that love the correct hose clamp or paint daub in the correct area or placement of the daub, but this group seems to be the group that condemns others rides the loudest. We can all appreciate this groups focus to the details, where it goes sideways is when these people bash, condemn, belittle, others equipment or lifestyles. They probably don't even realize they are doing it, but if they were in a bar and said the same things, it would be a different situation. Lets focus on the cars and enjoyment they bring to us in different ways, its not that complicated. If ones expertise is the ORIGINALITY scene so be it, we will follow along when questions need answers. If we want to check out a car show with SHELBYS we know where to look... There's room for all-
Can someone please explain to me how concours cars and perceived concours snobbery became part of this discussion?
I thought the discussion was about auction prices?
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 21, 2019, 11:18:17 AM
Can someone please explain to me how concours cars and perceived concours snobbery became part of this discussion?
I thought the discussion was about auction prices?
No but it is part of the issue generally. Maybe it's a newbie issue that thinks only Concours cars are correct and only correct cars are valuable?
To say that people that like concours cars dont enjoy driving their cars or dont enjoy driving their other cars is extremely ignorant.
I am not involved with concours cars. I have not been for several years. The people I met when I was involved, were the best, most giving people in the hobby. They freely share their information and experiences with others, often at their own expense. I can understand the envy and desire for others to be able to achieve what these people have done.
Dividing the club into two groups is irresponsible in my opinion.
Doug, it is not. Can you name the last time a concours car was sold at auction?
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 21, 2019, 11:25:44 AM
To say that people that like concours cars dont enjoy driving their cars or dont enjoy driving their other cars is extremely ignorant.
I am not involved with concours cars. I have not been for several years. The people I met when I was involved, were the best, most giving people in the hobby. They freely share their information and experiences with others, often at their own expense. I can understand the envy and desire for others to be able to achieve what these people have done.
Dividing the club into two groups is irresponsible in my opinion.
It is the perception though that there are two opposing groups. I personally see that the level of quality in Concours almost precludes the ability to drive the car more then on and off of the trailer.
I personally could not keep mine clean enough to be competitive.
Quote from: 427heaven on March 21, 2019, 10:48:59 AM
One thing we can count on with the bulk of this group is... How much is my car worth ? - Not how much fun I am having with my car! Since the overall enjoyment of our cars have divided us into sub... sets. There will always be the group of people that love the correct hose clamp or paint daub in the correct area or placement of the daub, but this group seems to be the group that condemns others rides the loudest. We can all appreciate this groups focus to the details, where it goes sideways is when these people bash, condemn, belittle, others equipment or lifestyles. They probably don't even realize they are doing it, but if they were in a bar and said the same things, it would be a different situation. Lets focus on the cars and enjoyment they bring to us in different ways, its not that complicated. If ones expertise is the ORIGINALITY scene so be it, we will follow along when questions need answers. If we want to check out a car show with SHELBYS we know where to look... There's room for all-
You referring to this type of behaviour?
Chris
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/178-210319110042.jpeg)
No Trailer Queen Chrissie, this type of behavior from those who think they are the elite.
By the way the name is Tony, got that T.Q.C.
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 20, 2019, 12:08:18 AM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 19, 2019, 10:28:03 PM
just keep driving members away with your sarcasm and superiority complex
great job, winner !
Take it easy eleanor, your driving a bit fast for road conditions...
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 21, 2019, 11:44:04 AM
No Trailer Queen Chrissie, this type of behavior from those who think they are the elite.
By the way the name is Tony, got that T.Q.C.
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 20, 2019, 12:08:18 AM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 19, 2019, 10:28:03 PM
just keep driving members away with your sarcasm and superiority complex
great job, winner !
Take it easy eleanor, your driving a bit fast for road conditions...
Relax eleanor, not everything is about you. You just happen to be the quintessential example here.
FYI my car is both concours and driven, watch the video ;)
I've owned my 67 GT350 48 years now. I recall how smugg a few owners way-y-y back when thought they were when the sold thier prize for $25,000. And I remember when others sold out for $50,000 years later. And even later some cars have sold for more than that.
The value is always variable. At auctions it often depends on two moneyed people wanting "that car". And location, and venue.
I do drive my former Concours winning car. Its time to answer....whats wrong with the judges if you cannot drive it? But, please don't digress into judging on this thread.
T.Q.C. everyone stop, look, listen, my car and I are soooooo wonderful.
concours and driven in to a trailer, lmao
get a life...go fish ! concours, best in the world...lmao
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 21, 2019, 11:46:51 AM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 21, 2019, 11:44:04 AM
No Trailer Queen Chrissie, this type of behavior from those who think they are the elite.
By the way the name is Tony, got that T.Q.C.
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 20, 2019, 12:08:18 AM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 19, 2019, 10:28:03 PM
just keep driving members away with your sarcasm and superiority complex
great job, winner !
Take it easy eleanor, your driving a bit fast for road conditions...
Relax eleanor, not everything is about you. You just happen to be the quintessential example here.
FYI my car is both concours and driven, watch the video ;)
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 21, 2019, 01:07:42 PM
T.Q.C. everyone stop, look, listen, my car and I are soooooo wonderful.
concours and driven in to a trailer, lmao
get a life...go fish ! concours, best in the world...lmao
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 21, 2019, 11:46:51 AM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 21, 2019, 11:44:04 AM
No Trailer Queen Chrissie, this type of behavior from those who think they are the elite.
By the way the name is Tony, got that T.Q.C.
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 20, 2019, 12:08:18 AM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 19, 2019, 10:28:03 PM
just keep driving members away with your sarcasm and superiority complex
great job, winner !
Take it easy eleanor, your driving a bit fast for road conditions...
Relax eleanor, not everything is about you. You just happen to be the quintessential example here.
FYI my car is both concours and driven, watch the video ;)
I think we need more members like eleanore here... you be the judge
Agreed Trailer Queen Chrissie, more member with intestinal fortitude. You would not know what that means and we understand you GROUP THINKER...but you do have the BEST car in the world...we still are lmao..
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 21, 2019, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 21, 2019, 01:07:42 PM
T.Q.C. everyone stop, look, listen, my car and I are soooooo wonderful.
concours and driven in to a trailer, lmao
get a life...go fish ! concours, best in the world...lmao
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 21, 2019, 11:46:51 AM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 21, 2019, 11:44:04 AM
No Trailer Queen Chrissie, this type of behavior from those who think they are the elite.
By the way the name is Tony, got that T.Q.C.
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 20, 2019, 12:08:18 AM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 19, 2019, 10:28:03 PM
just keep driving members away with your sarcasm and superiority complex
great job, winner !
Take it easy eleanor, your driving a bit fast for road conditions...
Relax eleanor, not everything is about you. You just happen to be the quintessential example here.
FYI my car is both concours and driven, watch the video ;)
I think we need more members like eleanore here... you be the judge
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 21, 2019, 01:27:23 PM
Agreed Trailer Queen Chrissie, more member with intestinal fortitude. You would not know what that means and we understand you GROUP THINKER...but you do have the BEST car in the world...we still are lmao..
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 21, 2019, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 21, 2019, 01:07:42 PM
T.Q.C. everyone stop, look, listen, my car and I are soooooo wonderful.
concours and driven in to a trailer, lmao
get a life...go fish ! concours, best in the world...lmao
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 21, 2019, 11:46:51 AM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 21, 2019, 11:44:04 AM
No Trailer Queen Chrissie, this type of behavior from those who think they are the elite.
By the way the name is Tony, got that T.Q.C.
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 20, 2019, 12:08:18 AM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 19, 2019, 10:28:03 PM
just keep driving members away with your sarcasm and superiority complex
great job, winner !
Take it easy eleanor, your driving a bit fast for road conditions...
Relax eleanor, not everything is about you. You just happen to be the quintessential example here.
FYI my car is both concours and driven, watch the video ;)
I think we need more members like eleanore here... you be the judge
Intestinal fortitude? Isn't that what anal retentive people get? Just kidding.
But seriously eleanor if you've got intestinal issues you should see a doctor might be something serious
Trailer Queen Chrissie you are the poster child of the kid in school who was a loser and continued to become as an adult a bigger looser. One who puts objects in front of their personal choices, including their family.
I leave you with a picture of what you look like to the Florida guys.
Actually looks pretty close with the receding hairline
Kindest regards
We gone
Please stick to the topic;
Shelby prices at auction
Thank you
Simon says "stick to the topic"
Times up... this thread is history.
If you are missing your time on this thread.. go look up "Ad hominem" and understand why this thread, and any other future ones, will be closed, with consequences next time..