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Title: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: acman63 on March 29, 2019, 09:34:57 PM
I think he needs to bring this to a SAAC convention so they can see what a true concours restoration looks like.   I saw the antenna , the wrong shift handle and a whitewall spare  and id seen enough

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Mustang-GT500/183747942271?hash=item2ac83b177f:g:HWIAAOSwQtJcmQg2
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: TOBKOB on March 29, 2019, 09:38:57 PM
Maybe the antenna stands straight up at 200 mph...  ::)

TOB
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: J_Speegle on March 29, 2019, 09:41:30 PM
Lack of pinch weld black out always screams ............  :o  Look at me

Maybe a member or from an ex owner that was one given the club sticker in the back window
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: 557 on March 29, 2019, 09:51:30 PM
Those are THE DARKEST blue lemans stripes I have ever seen,maybe it’s the photos..Then again it IS only 279k.....
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: Bob Gaines on March 29, 2019, 10:35:39 PM
Back to the antenna - in what country does that possibly look right ? Crazy.
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: shelbydoug on March 30, 2019, 06:52:32 AM
Isn't that a Supersnake whitewall spare? It's missing the "Caution Fan" sticker...and it's not a stripe delete car. Nice car though. It would need quite a bit of detailing to be competitive, but it's a nice driver, sort of if you go in for that type of environmentally friendly gaudy look at me thing?  ::)
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: BGlover67 on March 30, 2019, 07:13:25 AM
It does have a SAAC sticker in the rear window.   ::)
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: acman63 on March 30, 2019, 11:19:09 AM
AC Car no Louvers ?     This car looks like  paying attention to some details  it would be a nice example .  wheels and tires,  Cobra T pan,  air cleaner and element would have to go.  proper battery.  black out rockers  -  wonder what the bottom looks like?
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: cbrown on March 30, 2019, 12:11:31 PM
Guy  must have short arms.   Looks like Fairlane  shifter handle???

chris
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: Richstang on March 30, 2019, 02:29:29 PM
I believe this is car #1979 sold at Barrett Jackson in 2007 and offered on eBay in August last year. If so it has it's original VIN tag.

The restoration is exceptionally clean. It is good to see the side stripes were properly positioned.
At a local car show or concours d’ elegance event it might win its class, but we can see it is not factory correct. I believe the auction listing states that in its own way. We know the car didn’t have lemans stripes when it left LAX and it also had hubcaps.

With a May 17th SA completion date I would think it should have a louvered hood.
Although doubtful, you never know, maybe there was a supply shortage. more likely a service replacement part or restoration change.

That antenna is really bothersome. Previous photos of it (post restoration) show it positioned correctly. I can’t believe someone wouldn’t fix that before taking photos for a sale!
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: shelbydoug on March 30, 2019, 02:32:05 PM
AC Car no Louvers ?     This car looks like  paying attention to some details  it would be a nice example .  wheels and tires,  Cobra T pan,  air cleaner and element would have to go.  proper battery.  black out rockers  -  wonder what the bottom looks like?

Doesn't the add say it was a standard (no air) GT500?
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: Bob Gaines on March 30, 2019, 02:40:42 PM
I believe this is car #1979 sold at Barrett Jackson in 2007 and offered on eBay in August last year. If so it has it's original VIN tag.

The restoration is exceptionally clean. It is good to see the side stripes were properly positioned.
At a local car show or concours d’ elegance event it might win its class, but we can see it is not factory correct. I believe the auction listing states that in its own way. We know the car didn’t have lemans stripes when it left LAX and it also had hubcaps.

With a May 17th SA completion date I would think it should have a louvered hood.
Although doubtful, you never know, maybe there was a supply shortage. more likely a service replacement part or restoration change.

That antenna is really bothersome. Previous photos of it (post restoration) show it positioned correctly. I can’t believe someone wouldn’t fix that before taking photos for a sale!
+1 . A common restorer mistake is to put a transport tie down sticker over  a painted on lemans stripe. The sticker is applied at the Ford assemblyline and therefore painted blue in the alternate universe of SA painted on lemans strips  ;) . Sorry I couldn't resist  ;D
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: Richstang on March 30, 2019, 02:54:37 PM
AC Car no Louvers ?     This car looks like  paying attention to some details  it would be a nice example .  wheels and tires,  Cobra T pan,  air cleaner and element would have to go.  proper battery.  black out rockers  -  wonder what the bottom looks like?

Doesn't the add say it was a standard (no air) GT500?

Your right it is a 400F car so no A/C, and almost definitely not a factory louvered hood. With '67s Never say Never.
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: Richstang on March 30, 2019, 03:04:13 PM
I believe this is car #1979 sold at Barrett Jackson in 2007 and offered on eBay in August last year. If so it has it's original VIN tag.

The restoration is exceptionally clean. It is good to see the side stripes were properly positioned.
At a local car show or concours d’ elegance event it might win its class, but we can see it is not factory correct. I believe the auction listing states that in its own way. We know the car didn’t have lemans stripes when it left LAX and it also had hubcaps.

With a May 17th SA completion date I would think it should have a louvered hood.
Although doubtful, you never know, maybe there was a supply shortage. more likely a service replacement part or restoration change.

That antenna is really bothersome. Previous photos of it (post restoration) show it positioned correctly. I can’t believe someone wouldn’t fix that before taking photos for a sale!
+1 . A common restorer mistake is to put a transport tie down sticker over  a painted on lemans stripe. The sticker is applied at the Ford assemblyline and therefore painted blue in the alternate universe of SA painted on lemans strips  ;) . Sorry I couldn't resist  ;D

HA!
 ;D
In that alternate universe, I suppose the transport tie-down sticker from Ford would have to be removed first, then the lemans stripes painted.
Doubtful SA would have any of those Ford stickers lying around or care about that detail, but you never know.

One of these days I need to ask Dave if any SA Production Orders had the 'Full Stripe" box marked
or
If the Lemans stripes show up on an original invoice with a charge. I have not found one car with them in all those copies that I have on file.
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: 69mach351w on March 30, 2019, 06:12:59 PM
Maybe the seller is ignorant about what suppose to be correct and needs someone to really tell him what a "Concours restoration" consist of instead of beating the car up here on SAAC forum.  GO TELL 'EM GUYS!!!  And No,  Not me 'cause I'm "ignorant" about a lot of this stuff myself ;D

Seller has a SAAC sticker in the back window, so he can't be all that bad, right ???
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: Bob Gaines on March 30, 2019, 07:27:10 PM
I believe this is car #1979 sold at Barrett Jackson in 2007 and offered on eBay in August last year. If so it has it's original VIN tag.

The restoration is exceptionally clean. It is good to see the side stripes were properly positioned.
At a local car show or concours d’ elegance event it might win its class, but we can see it is not factory correct. I believe the auction listing states that in its own way. We know the car didn’t have lemans stripes when it left LAX and it also had hubcaps.

With a May 17th SA completion date I would think it should have a louvered hood.
Although doubtful, you never know, maybe there was a supply shortage. more likely a service replacement part or restoration change.

That antenna is really bothersome. Previous photos of it (post restoration) show it positioned correctly. I can’t believe someone wouldn’t fix that before taking photos for a sale!
+1 . A common restorer mistake is to put a transport tie down sticker over  a painted on lemans stripe. The sticker is applied at the Ford assemblyline and therefore painted blue in the alternate universe of SA painted on lemans strips  ;) . Sorry I couldn't resist  ;D

HA!
 ;D
In that alternate universe, I suppose the transport tie-down sticker from Ford would have to be removed first, then the lemans stripes painted.
Doubtful SA would have any of those Ford stickers lying around or care about that detail, but you never know.

One of these days I need to ask Dave if any SA Production Orders had the 'Full Stripe" box marked
or
If the Lemans stripes show up on an original invoice with a charge. I have not found one car with them in all those copies that I have on file.
FYI I have seen some 65 and 66's where the lemans stripe was painted over pieces of the transport tie down sticker that didn't get torn off all the way . I suppose the painter figured it was behind the license plate anyway. Also the bumpers were many times not taken off and you see blow outs (paint overspray) behind the bumpers, hood and trunk lids. Some more then others. 
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: shelbydoug on March 30, 2019, 07:28:20 PM
Maybe the seller is ignorant about what suppose to be correct and needs someone to really tell him what a "Concours restoration" consist of instead of beating the car up here on SAAC forum.  GO TELL 'EM GUYS!!!  And No,  Not me 'cause I'm "ignorant" about a lot of this stuff myself ;D

Seller has a SAAC sticker in the back window, so he can't be all that bad, right ???

In this case Concours refers to the level of effort, i.e., quality level of the restoration rather then the historically as built accuracy. It's a common mistake and brings up the most vocal criticism of the advertising.
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on April 17, 2019, 12:00:05 PM
Some of us get blocked for trying to correct or point out grave errors.  Pookie likes to run his mouth in messages on Ebay. The "Yard Gnome" would think twice if I were in front of him without a doubt. 
                                                            -Keith
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: shelbymann1970 on April 17, 2019, 12:28:32 PM
So out of curiosity since this is a non AC car and they "butchered" it for AC wouldn't that have an effect on the value? One of the reasons I never added AC to my Shelby. Gary
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on April 20, 2019, 12:43:43 AM
I don't see it as "butchered" if it was done with factory parts. It's too damn hot here in the Dallas area to be without. You north east and west coast girls can live without it.😃
           -Keith
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: shelbymann1970 on April 20, 2019, 09:51:26 AM
I don't see it as "butchered" if it was done with factory parts. It's too damn hot here in the Dallas area to be without. You north east and west coast girls can live without it.😃
           -Keith
" Butchered" to me means you cut out factory sheet metal to install the air conditioning. On the firewall(?) and the front radiator support at least on a 69 and that is why I never added air to my GT350 vert. I got a friend who took the air off of his 70 GT500 4 speed vert. He will eventually have to fix the rad support and firewall on his 70 if he wants to take it to the next step. His car was a Texas car at one time and interior also changed to white. Gary
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on April 20, 2019, 02:46:05 PM
1967 doesn't require "butchering". I know what the term means, hench my response. If you live in certain climates it's miserable  to drive the vehicles from may to October.
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: 557 on April 20, 2019, 03:30:18 PM
Black big block car+no AC+Southern California summer=sweaty “comfortweave”....The “blower fan”just makes it worse IMHO
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: shelbymann1970 on April 21, 2019, 09:08:21 AM
1967 doesn't require "butchering". I know what the term means, hench my response. If you live in certain climates it's miserable  to drive the vehicles from may to October.
Thanks. I wasn't aware of the firewall being the same on 67s whether you had air or not. 69s the firewall is cutout larger for air. But the rad support would still be cut for the lines going to the condenser. I understand the plight you have down there with heat in the summer.
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: roddster on April 21, 2019, 10:48:53 AM
  Ah, some folks better go look at a 67 WITH A/C and WITHOUT A/C.  The fire walls are different.
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on April 23, 2019, 10:54:03 AM
No, the firewall isn't different. It has a cover that screws over the blower motor opening. There is a small punched plug that has to be removed on the left hand side core support though.
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: shelbymann1970 on April 23, 2019, 12:09:30 PM
No, the firewall isn't different. It has a cover that screws over the blower motor opening. There is a small punched plug that has to be removed on the left hand side core support though.
So lets be clear here so I can be better educated on 1967 assemblies: Can you install factory air on a 67 firewall without ANY modification at all? So if you go back to non air does metal work needed to be done? Gary
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: J_Speegle on April 23, 2019, 01:24:38 PM
So lets be clear here so I can be better educated on 1967 assemblies: Can you install factory air on a 67 firewall without ANY modification at all? So if you go back to non air does metal work needed to be done? Gary

If your adding/converting a non-AC 67 to a AC 67 the firewall needs to have some sheet metal removed from the firewall by the heater motor. If your changing from AC to non-AC a section of metal needs to be added to the firewall for it to look like it would have from the factory.   



Non-AC passenger side firewall

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-021217165842.jpeg)


AC passenger side firewall

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/12/6-230419150657.jpeg)
Title: Re: 67 GT500 for sale on ebay
Post by: 6s2055 on April 23, 2019, 03:43:34 PM
Also, believe the Al wheels are after market as there seems to be no slight taper on the spokes.