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Title: 1964 video of Cobra at Hershey, PA 'Hill Climb'
Post by: Richstang on April 05, 2019, 03:51:30 PM
Check out the 3:42 minute mark for the Cobra with the #46 on the side

http://theoldmotor.com/?p=167615
Title: Re: 1964 video of Cobra at Hershey, PA 'Hill Climb'
Post by: Bigfoot on April 05, 2019, 04:33:05 PM
Some really cool cars there. Crazy spin in the #89 English vehicle.
Title: Re: 1964 video of Cobra at Hershey, PA 'Hill Climb'
Post by: jjh on April 05, 2019, 04:37:19 PM
Great footage!...thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: 1964 video of Cobra at Hershey, PA 'Hill Climb'
Post by: Side-Oilers on April 05, 2019, 04:55:43 PM
Super cool.  Love the tail-out action.

Looks to me like the film was under-cranked (speeded-up) a bit, as I can't imagine those cars (except for the Cobra, of course!) powering out of that turn and up the hill so quickly.
Title: Re: 1964 video of Cobra at Hershey, PA 'Hill Climb'
Post by: csxsfm on April 05, 2019, 05:05:46 PM
Trees surrounding a narrow cambered road!  Obviously safety wasn't very evolved.  I loved racing "back in the day" but when I think back of the telephone poles and fire hydrants at Santa Barbara and the ditches and barbed wire at Cotati, I feel lucky.
Title: Re: 1964 video of Cobra at Hershey, PA 'Hill Climb'
Post by: sfm5s081 on April 05, 2019, 05:20:30 PM
Wow! What a day that must have been. Porsche speedsters, carreras, 250 Ferrari, some vettes and an e type.
Title: Re: 1964 video of Cobra at Hershey, PA 'Hill Climb'
Post by: shelbydoug on April 05, 2019, 05:26:29 PM
That looks like a first generation 289 Comp car. That's the way those cars had the fenders "flared". Roll bar isn't factory style though.

Perhaps Mr.Scudder will weigh in with a CSX number? I didn't catch the steering wheel or if it had vents in the front fenders. That would give a hint as to a 2000 or a 2100 car?
Title: Re: 1964 video of Cobra at Hershey, PA 'Hill Climb'
Post by: JD on April 05, 2019, 08:57:05 PM
I saw 2 Cobras (1 Blue earlier1:37, 1 Red later) neither looked like it have vents on the front fenders.

Could these have been from Ed Hugus' shop? 

Car #89 was a Austin Healey
Title: Re: 1964 video of Cobra at Hershey, PA 'Hill Climb'
Post by: mark p on April 05, 2019, 11:34:01 PM
very cool  8) - thanks for the link.
Looked like the plastic bow-tie machines outnumbered everything else (no disrespect intended).
Definitely a lot of tail waggin' going on.

I've been to the resurrected event a couple of times, that "road" is still very narrow and the trees are very close - just like it looks in the video. I can't find a link or anything, but Merlin Miller set a then-new record with his [not] vintage [GT2/hillclimb]  Tiger in 2002.
Title: Re: 1964 video of Cobra at Hershey, PA 'Hill Climb'
Post by: shelbydoug on April 06, 2019, 08:25:16 AM
I saw 2 Cobras (1 Blue earlier1:37, 1 Red later) neither looked like it have vents on the front fenders.

Could these have been from Ed Hugus' shop? 

Car #89 was a Austin Healey

I didn't notice the blue Cobra first time through. Yes. No vents on either. I don't know enough of early Cobra racing to comment on either car.

The blue car does not have wire wheels so someone with Cobra racing knowledge was running it.

I'll have to go back and look at the red one for wheels.

Cobra Ned is going to be the man on identifying those cars I think?
Title: Re: 1964 video of Cobra at Hershey, PA 'Hill Climb'
Post by: Iceman on April 06, 2019, 08:48:52 AM
Very cool. All cars! The Ferrari is I think a 250GT SWB
Title: Re: 1964 video of Cobra at Hershey, PA 'Hill Climb'
Post by: JD on April 06, 2019, 09:02:56 AM
Very cool. All cars! The Ferrari is I think a 250GT SWB

Yes, pretty exotic piece at a PA hill climb and the Jag with 63 on it looked brand new.  (Sound would be fun but beggars can't be choosers thanks Rich)
Title: Re: 1964 video of Cobra at Hershey, PA 'Hill Climb'
Post by: Richstang on April 06, 2019, 09:15:41 AM
JD,
Good catch on the second blue Cobra with the #73.
I think both Cobra's have wire wheels and no side vents as mentioned.

Checking Kranky's Hill Climb race list does not show this event results for '64 or '65.
Title: Re: 1964 video of Cobra at Hershey, PA 'Hill Climb'
Post by: Cobra Ned on April 06, 2019, 04:03:00 PM
The blue car was an AC Ace/ Bristol, not a Cobra. The red Cobra is an early car without sidevents. Movies are tough to work with, because it's tough to focus in on specific items. It's my belief this film has been posted here previously and the best we could do is guess what car it may have been.
Title: Re: 1964 video of Cobra at Hershey, PA 'Hill Climb'
Post by: shelbydoug on April 06, 2019, 05:33:02 PM
It's digitally enhanced but it's still an 8mm film. That considered, it's of remarkable quality but still not clear enough for ME to catch the details, even in freeze frame.

I keep thinking of the Zapruder film and there is just so much you can get out of 8mm film.
Title: Re: 1964 video of Cobra at Hershey, PA 'Hill Climb'
Post by: A-Snake on April 07, 2019, 09:24:58 AM
The blue car was an AC Ace/ Bristol, not a Cobra. The red Cobra is an early car without sidevents. Movies are tough to work with, because it's tough to focus in on specific items. It's my belief this film has been posted here previously and the best we could do is guess what car it may have been.

Still a guess but the red car could be CSX2027. The photo shows an 'oval' shaped boot emblem, kidney bean Halibrands and rear flares like 2027. CSX2027 was assembled by Hugus and was in the NE during the time.