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Title: Random Ford GT-original & Mk. V photos
Post by: honker on April 25, 2019, 08:35:35 PM
GT40 in the snow at Niagara Falls, I think on the American side ? We see some British cars in the background, from the left, a light blue and black Sunbeam Alpine, a black Austin or Morris 1100, and the two tone car is also English, I think ?
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Post by: honker on April 25, 2019, 08:44:59 PM
Mk. 11 at the take out ! original car ? time frame 1980s,  I think it's possible.
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Post by: CSX 4133 on April 25, 2019, 09:04:03 PM
GT40 in the snow at Niagara Falls, I think on the American side ? We see some British cars in the background, from the left, a light blue and black Sunbeam Alpine, a black Austin or Morris 1100, and the two tone car is also English, I think ?

Same GT40 perhaps.

https://www.legendarymotorcar.com/inventory/1966-ford-gt40pr-1291.aspx
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Post by: Richstang on April 25, 2019, 11:37:16 PM
GT40 in the snow at Niagara Falls, I think on the American side ? We see some British cars in the background, from the left, a light blue and black Sunbeam Alpine, a black Austin or Morris 1100, and the two tone car is also English, I think ?

Same GT40 perhaps.

https://www.legendarymotorcar.com/inventory/1966-ford-gt40pr-1291.aspx

Yep, same GT40. One of the road cars P/1028. I would think the Niagara photo was taken in the late fall / early winter 1966.
Title: Re: Random Ford GT-original & Mk. V photos
Post by: propayne on April 26, 2019, 08:26:55 AM
Guess I'll throw these up on this thread also in case some people missed them -

- Phillip

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/134-050319165440.jpeg)
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/134-050319165333.jpeg)
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Post by: 6R07mi on April 26, 2019, 12:31:36 PM
MK-I vs Galaxy wagon
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Post by: propayne on April 26, 2019, 12:52:00 PM
^^^ reminds me of the Matchbox I had as a kid  :)

- Phillip
Title: Re: Random Ford GT-original & Mk. V photos
Post by: honker on April 26, 2019, 02:59:42 PM
6R07mi, thanks for posting the image of the Ford GT & the station wagon, that was on the contents page of Car & Driver magazine back in the day with the caption "A chicken in every pot, and a Ford in every garage"  ;)
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Post by: honker on April 26, 2019, 03:05:21 PM
propayne, thanks for those photos of the GT, I believe that car was on display at the 1968 Universal Exposition in San Antonio Texas. Do you have a better resolution shot, I wonder what it says on the door ?  F1  Le Mans  Sebring Hemphill Ford, can't make out the rest ?
Here's a couple more related to that.

Mike
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Post by: 68countrysedan on April 26, 2019, 03:15:14 PM
Curious juxtaposition of the display being positioned in front of graphics illustrating some heavy-duty military hardware.
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Post by: propayne on April 26, 2019, 04:57:32 PM
Honker - yes, the pictures I posted are from the 1968 Hemisfair held in San Antonio Texas.

That is at the Ford Pavilion - those display photos wrap around the wall. Besides the military pics there is also a pic of the Cougar II (Cobra based) show car.

You can look at more pics and order high resolution prints here:

http://digital.utsa.edu/cdm/

I originally posted the picture here:

http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=5109.0

- Phillip
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Post by: mark iv on April 28, 2019, 12:57:23 PM
GT40 in the snow at Niagara Falls, I think on the American side ? We see some British cars in the background, from the left, a light blue and black Sunbeam Alpine, a black Austin or Morris 1100, and the two tone car is also English, I think ?

Taken at the Falls before the "Clutch Artist's Motorama" in Buffalo. Frontier Ford was the Shelby dealer and Jerry Hamam was the "Hi-Po" salesperson and drove the GT40 around before and after the show. Part of the "GT40 promotion and disposal" program. I knew Jerry and saw the car at the show in 66.
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Post by: honker on June 27, 2019, 04:27:33 PM
Wasn't sure if this one fit with the two threads on the Shelby buildings started by "Szabo" so I'll post it here.

I think this image was on forum 1 also

The description said, press day at LAX. I don't know if this is GT/1046, the '66 Le Mans winner, or another car painted up to look like it ?

Mike
Title: Re: Random Ford GT-original & Mk. V photos
Post by: 68countrysedan on June 27, 2019, 05:37:00 PM
Quote
Curious juxtaposition of the display being positioned in front of graphics illustrating some heavy-duty military hardware.

Not so curious after all, he replied.

A reminder that Ford had their Ford Aerospace Corporation that was a contractor for air-to-air and ground-to-air missiles and space systems. Ford Aerospace was also involved in building the Mustang GTP's carbon fiber tub. Then it was tested using computer finite element analysis, which was a big deal in 1985. 
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Post by: Richstang on June 27, 2019, 09:26:00 PM
Wasn't sure if this one fit with the two threads on the Shelby buildings started by "Szabo" so I'll post it here.

I think this image was on forum 1 also

The description said, press day at LAX. I don't know if this is GT/1046, the '66 Le Mans winner, or another car painted up to look like it ?

Mike

It looks like the number '2' is a different font (bolder letter, but smaller size) than the car had at Le Mans. The stripes look silver, definitely not white.
Would anyone happen to know when the press day was in 1966?
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Post by: Szabo on June 30, 2019, 04:50:23 PM
Wasn't sure if this one fit with the two threads on the Shelby buildings started by "Szabo" so I'll post it here.

I think this image was on forum 1 also

The description said, press day at LAX. I don't know if this is GT/1046, the '66 Le Mans winner, or another car painted up to look like it ?

Mike

Nice Pic, its from LAX 66 Press Day, but dont find out when this day was ...
Even there is no LAX Building Thread (but still in working) so i will this Add, because it shows the hole Backside from Hangar 8...

I have also a question,
does anybody know when this GT40 MK 1 is delviered, on the negativ sheets is fly out, not coming in.
on the Fender stand Scuderia Fittipaldi, is anything know about this GT40, i tryed to figure out the exact Date in Time

Greets Steve

(https://abload.de/img/79eku0.png) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=79eku0.png)
Title: Re: Random Ford GT-original & Mk. V photos
Post by: honker on July 01, 2019, 08:01:41 AM
Szabo, great image, thanks for posting. Lots of shirts around ! could that be Ken Miles at the top of the ramp in the dark suit ?

 I believe that to be the "Scuderia Filipinetti" GT40 (P/1005) being loaded at LAX, can any I.D the location ? for Le Mans '65, it carried #6 in the race.

I've included two more images from the same day, can't give a precise time frame. The other car is the "Ford France" (GT/109) which carried #15 in the race.

Mike
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Post by: 427heaven on July 01, 2019, 09:23:51 AM
Looks like Ken and Dave McDonald at the top of the ramp. ;)
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Post by: 6R07mi on July 01, 2019, 12:23:01 PM
Wasn't sure if this one fit with the two threads on the Shelby buildings started by "Szabo" so I'll post it here.

I think this image was on forum 1 also

The description said, press day at LAX. I don't know if this is GT/1046, the '66 Le Mans winner, or another car painted up to look like it ?

Mike

Is that a Shelby American "Cobra" plate over the left shoulder of the occupant?
was that a usual practice for the cars' final campaigner ??

jim p
Title: Re: Random Ford GT-original & Mk. V photos
Post by: Richstang on July 01, 2019, 12:27:35 PM
As Mike 'Honker' said, that GT40 #15 is P-1005 heading out to Le Mans. (It raced with the number '6')

I don't know the exact date, but it is safe to assume they shipped several cars out immediately after the Open House ended on June 8th.
The actual race was June 19th and 20th. All the cars would need to be there early for the tech inspection and also for a practice day or two.
They probably arrived no later than June 15th, leaving less than a one week window for the air freight date out of LAX (guessing June 9-14).
Title: Re: Random Ford GT-original & Mk. V photos
Post by: Szabo on July 01, 2019, 10:02:36 PM
hello,

thanks for answers...

the pic is from a negativ sheet from LAX Open House Event, but it is not 100% which Day from the Event it is taken i ask here
when it is delieverd...

The Open House Event was from 6 - 8 June, the pic is made right between the Event, there are other Pics which confirm that...
but on which Date exactly is not sure for now...

and yes you are right, i also see Ken Miles on the Pics, he was on the event to...

Greets

Stephan
Title: Re: Random Ford GT-original & Mk. V photos
Post by: camp upshur on July 01, 2019, 11:24:58 PM

FYI, these pics of the LeMans 65 load out were taken at the former TWA cargo facility located on the north side of LAX rwy 25R at the intersection of taxiways bravo and foxtrot (SAI itself was located south of rwy 25L on the other side of the field).
Unlike the former SAI/NAA hangers at 6501 W Impl Hwy, the former TWA cargo facility is untouched by time and is exactly today as in these period pics (minus the TWA signage).
Title: Re: Random Ford GT-original & Mk. V photos
Post by: Richstang on July 01, 2019, 11:35:33 PM

FYI, these pics of the LeMans 65 load out were taken at the former TWA cargo facility located on the north side of LAX rwy 25R at the intersection of taxiways bravo and foxtrot (SAI itself was located south of rwy 25L on the other side of the field).
Unlike the former SAI/NAA hangers at 6501 W Impl Hwy, the former TWA cargo facility is untouched by time and is exactly today as in these period pics (minus the TWA signage).

That's an interesting bit of information. Thanks for sharing.
 8)
Was that TWA cargo facility close to the 'Theme Building" restaurant we often see in the background of the LAX photos?

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Post by: camp upshur on July 02, 2019, 10:47:17 AM

Richstang,

No the Theme Building was/is in the center of the airport complex. I don’t really have a goos depiction of the TWA facility on a greater airport pic. However on these two 1965 pics the TWA facility would be at the most upper RH of the Theme Building and in the ‘reverse, pic of 6501 the TWA would be at the most upper LH. Hope that helps a little.

Steve
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Post by: Richstang on July 02, 2019, 12:00:12 PM
Thanks Steve the added photo and your explanation are a big help.
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Post by: Richstang on July 02, 2019, 05:13:58 PM
In the 2011 ’65-’67 Registry, pages 1286 thru pages 1289 cover the June 6-7-8, 1965 'Open House' at LAX in great detail along with several photos.
The loading of the TWA freight plane with several race cars was done as a part of the presentation to the Ford Executives on June 7th 1965.
This was also noted as the Ford Board of Directors meeting and planned to be a short (1) one hour visit.

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Post by: camp upshur on July 02, 2019, 09:16:02 PM

A small sub-note: that TWA 707 in the pic went down at JFK in 1969. Killed all on board.
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Post by: Side-Oilers on July 02, 2019, 11:25:18 PM

A small sub-note: that TWA 707 in the pic went down at JFK in 1969. Killed all on board.

Thanks for that info. I was trying to discern the tail number and research it.
Title: Re: Random Ford GT-original & Mk. V photos
Post by: honker on July 03, 2019, 08:52:28 AM
Thanks Rich for the heads up on the pages in the registry.

Also campupshur for your detailed input.

And Szabo for getting these threads started.

The level of knowledge found on here never ceases to amaze me !

Mike
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Post by: Thomas on July 18, 2019, 06:59:45 PM
Here are a couple old ford racing pics that I found hidden in an old box in the attic. There are a few more period correct prototype mustang pics too, but I didn’t post them as they are not GT-40 specific....
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Post by: Thomas on July 18, 2019, 07:35:33 PM
Here’s a close up of the guys. Anybody able to identify them?
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Post by: honker on July 18, 2019, 08:00:50 PM
Thomas, great images  8)  here and in the other thread ! thanks for posting. I'm pretty sure that's Ken Miles in the shorts, and no shirt, in the centre of the image. Obviously during testing, is that at Sebring, or the Ford Romeo proving ground ? Looks like there is an issue, the guy to the left of Miles is looking at a rag, maybe it's transmission fluid ?

Mike

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Post by: Thomas on July 18, 2019, 08:54:40 PM
Thomas, great images  8)  here and in the other thread ! thanks for posting. I'm pretty sure that's Ken Miles in the shorts, and no shirt, in the centre of the image. Obviously during testing, is that at Sebring, or the Ford Romeo proving ground ? Looks like there is an issue, the guy to the left of Miles is looking at a rag, maybe it's transmission fluid ?

Mike

Hey Mike
You’re very welcome. Thank you very much for all of your wisdom and advise on my race car post over in the GT 350/500 forum.

 I wanted to make sure that this group saw these first. Maybe they’ll provide some information to the specialists as to the Who, what and where of all these pics!
I think it’s an issue with the brakes as there is no caliper present on the rear rotor.
The pics have been stored away since the 60’s.

Could the guy without a shirt in the left be Mr Shelby?
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Post by: Side-Oilers on July 18, 2019, 10:27:52 PM
I highly doubt the shirtless guy at the left is CS.  He was a dapper dresser, after he ditched the overalls.
Slacks with sharp creases, dress shirts and Italian loafers at the races was more his style.

I first thought that photo might be Ford's Romeo P.G., as it's banked more than Dearborn P.G. is.   (I've spent time on the track at both places.)   But, I can't swear to it.   
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Post by: honker on July 18, 2019, 11:15:16 PM
How did I miss the caliper not being there  ::)

Thomas are you sure you're not  mixing me up with another Mike on this forum, I can't remember anything from the GT350/500 forum ?

Maybe it's an age thing on my part  ;)

Mike
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Post by: Thomas on July 19, 2019, 05:39:51 AM
How did I miss the caliper not being there  ::)

Thomas are you sure you're not  mixing me up with another Mike on this forum, I can't remember anything from the GT350/500 forum ?

Maybe it's an age thing on my part  ;)

Mike

Lol, you may be correct Mike. I mixed you up with a different member. I have a different thread on the GT350 board in regards to a Shelby race car that I purchased recently. I’ve been receiving help from a bunch of great people over there to try and identify the history of the car.
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Post by: honker on November 01, 2019, 09:39:12 PM
I believe this is either GT/106 or GT/107, I don't think the cars had this # on track ? Both cars were tested at Dearborn, and the

Romeo proving grounds, then later at Riverside. GT/106 was also tested at Daytona twice. Later both were to be scrapped, but

 GT/106 is thought to still exist. This info comes from the Ronnie Spain book (1992) The photo is an internet find, I always liked

 that nose configuration  8)

Mike

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Post by: honker on February 10, 2020, 09:53:43 PM
Sebring 1966: front to rear....P1029....GT/103....P/1000....GT/105  8)

Mike
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Post by: Richstang on February 11, 2020, 12:22:43 AM
Nice photo of them gathered together. Never saw that one before.
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Post by: honker on February 20, 2020, 10:08:30 AM
I've gone through my paper, computer files, and internet, but can't find any info for a GT40 with this license plate.

Could this be William Wonder's GT/103 ? it did carry that race number a couple of times.

Obviously some where in the states, by the cars in the back ground.

Mike
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Post by: 6R07mi on February 20, 2020, 12:29:11 PM
These photos of #22 from VIR 1966, P1049 driven by Dick Thompson appears to be the same car.
however the VIR photos show fender mounted mirrors and the class is now "CM" vs the previous photo it looks like simply class "C"
perhaps the 1st photo is earlier event?

that's the best info I have.

regards,
jim p
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Post by: honker on February 22, 2020, 05:15:02 PM
Jim P, sorry for not replying sooner, thanks for your answer, and added photos, I am in agreement with you that this is P/1049 in

the photo in my post #39 above. It matches with the information in my 4th ( 2008) edition of the registry .

Mike
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Post by: honker on March 14, 2020, 09:27:43 PM
Is This GT/108 or GT/109 ? Info with the photo said Riverside ? ?

Mike
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Post by: KerryBWhite on March 14, 2020, 09:55:23 PM
Here’s a close up of the guys. Anybody able to identify them?

Could the guy to Ken's right ( with rag/or caliper in hand) be Phil Remington?
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Post by: honker on April 06, 2020, 03:10:16 PM
This is pretty cool, sheet showing prize money distribution after Le Mans 1967.

Mike
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Post by: Side-Oilers on April 06, 2020, 03:36:25 PM
Great find!
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Post by: 6R07mi on April 23, 2020, 05:29:54 PM
Is This GT/108 or GT/109 ? Info with the photo said Riverside ? ?

Mike

IMHO, I can't speak to the location, others here are more authoritative if it's Riverside,
although I was thinking it is,
The white CSX2xxx and GT350 in the background suggests to me it may be the SAI product press day??

I seem to recall GT/108 was used for Sports Car Graphic Oct 1965 issue "Track Test" by Jerry Titus.
Were these the same incident or 2 different events???

regards,
jim p
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Post by: Wedgeman on April 23, 2020, 05:52:38 PM
Me in P1033  Pacific Raceways.........circa 2004-5
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Post by: s2ms on April 23, 2020, 07:12:59 PM
Also took this at Pacific Raceways, at least 20 years ago during the PNW Historics...

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/236-230420191005.jpeg)
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Post by: Side-Oilers on April 23, 2020, 11:50:57 PM
Is This GT/108 or GT/109 ? Info with the photo said Riverside ? ?

Mike

IMHO, I can't speak to the location, others here are more authoritative if it's Riverside,
although I was thinking it is,
The white CSX2xxx and GT350 in the background suggests to me it may be the SAI product press day??

I seem to recall GT/108 was used for Sports Car Graphic Oct 1965 issue "Track Test" by Jerry Titus.
Were these the same incident or 2 different events???

regards,
jim p

Looks like RIR to me.
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Post by: honker on September 15, 2020, 10:45:03 AM
On another forum they are asking where this photo was taken ? Is this in the race shop at LAX ?

Mike

(photo: unattributed)
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Post by: Richstang on September 15, 2020, 11:38:03 AM
This is likely at Lemans.
It looks different (more light panels in the roof) than the race hanger LAX
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Post by: Richstang on September 15, 2020, 11:47:52 AM
Is This GT/108 or GT/109 ? Info with the photo said Riverside ? ?

Mike

I believe this is GT/108 on exhibition at Riverside; April 30, 1965 during the USRRC event.
It was also demonstrated at Laguna Seca on May 9th
...and again at LAX for the open house weekend on June 7-9th
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Post by: honker on September 16, 2020, 05:58:11 PM
Le Mans '67