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Title: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: BGlover67 on April 29, 2019, 01:48:48 PM
For 1967, Bronze was the rarest color combination if you don’t include the one off’s Yellow and Maroon.  There were 21 GT350’s and 1 GT500.  Almost all of the small blocks were ordered very early in the run, and then replaced by Lime Gold or another color.  Interestingly, people have purposes that either Shelby American had trouble matching the color on their fiberglass pieces, or that customers didn’t like how quickly the paint faded.  The later doesn’t make sense to me because the cars couldn’t have been out in the wild long enough to notice an appreciably amount of fading before the color was discontinued. 

Could Shelby have walked in one morning in November of 1966 and said how just how God awful the new 67’s looked in bronze and made the decision to stop using the color?  That would make for a cool story but doubtful on that.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: Richstang on April 29, 2019, 02:37:39 PM
I know there are some people who just dislike the Bronze color. I'm not one of them. I think it looks fantastic in fresh paint and just pops with color!

At first I thought maybe Ford cancelled the color early in the '67 production run, but I found a Marti Report for a June '67 build Mustang, so that's not it.
(I believe that was actually Sunlit Gold in 1968 I was thinking of.)

Then I recalled an article written that noted Shelby only intended to build a limited number of paint colors at one time. So if one color dropped out a new color could replace it. I'm not certain if this is a fact or a myth. It seems like building only a couple dozen of the Bronze is too short a run for that theory. I feel safer assuming there were paint issues at SA more than anything else. Possibly matching the paint on the fiberglass parts, more so than the paint fading over a couple of months. Just my thoughts, no facts to back it up.
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: JD on April 29, 2019, 03:06:33 PM
'67 Bronze and '68 Sunlite Gold are not the same color (in case anyone wasn't sure)

'67 Shelby color Bronze Metallic  (Ford color Burnt Amber) #M2066
'68 Sunlite Gold Ford #M3073
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: Harris Speedster on April 29, 2019, 05:34:49 PM
I always thought that the Bronze 67 and the Silver 67's were good looking colors on the shelby.
I did lean towards the silver one though.

Actually was lucky enough to own one of each at one time.
But passed keeping them, as a Black early one popped up.

>>>>
Not to change the subject, has the original paint 66 yellow car ever surfaced again that i looked at in Ca about 26 years ago?
John
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: capecodmustang.com on April 29, 2019, 05:58:02 PM
Bronze...

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Post by: sfm5s081 on April 29, 2019, 06:05:23 PM
"Slow gold"
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: 2112 on April 29, 2019, 07:15:58 PM
I love looking at them, they are beautiful. But if I had only one car, it would not be my choice.
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: Richstang on April 29, 2019, 08:12:28 PM
I always thought that the Bronze 67 and the Silver 67's were good looking colors on the shelby.
I did lean towards the silver one though.

Actually was lucky enough to own one of each at one time.
But passed keeping them, as a Black early one popped up.

>>>>
Not to change the subject, has the original paint 66 yellow car ever surfaced again that i looked at in Ca about 26 years ago?
John

Hi John,

I know you mean the Medium Grey Metallic - Shelby code 6 - Ford DSO code 4 - M32J 1900 paint color and not Silver.
Just so others know Shelby American did not produce any Silver painted '67 Shelby's.

Are you asking about the '67 GT350 in Springtime Yellow? That paint color was available on '67 Mustangs too.
If I recall correctly, that car was put away pending a future restoration. It's a special 1 of 1 paint car (NICE!)
The 2011 registry mentions it was previously paint black possibly in the eighties, so it's not an original paint car.

Edit; corrected codes in bold. My dyslexia swapped the Shelby and Ford codes previously in error.
 
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: Richstang on April 29, 2019, 08:13:12 PM
Bronze...

You know I like that one Brett!

NICE!
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: JD on April 29, 2019, 08:23:11 PM
I always thought that the Bronze 67 and the Silver 67's were good looking colors on the shelby.
I did lean towards the silver one though.

Actually was lucky enough to own one of each at one time.
But passed keeping them, as a Black early one popped up.

>>>>
Not to change the subject, has the original paint 66 yellow car ever surfaced again that i looked at in Ca about 26 years ago?
John

Hi John,

I know you mean the Medium Grey Metallic - Shelby code 4 - Ford DSO code 6 - M32J 1900 paint color and not Silver.
Just so others know Shelby American did not produce any Silver painted '67 Shelby's.

Are you asking about the '67 GT350 in Springtime Yellow? That paint color was available on '67 Mustangs too.
If I recall correctly, that car was put away pending a future restoration. It's a special 1 of 1 paint car (NICE!)
The 2011 registry mentions it was previously paint black possibly in the eighties, so it's not an original paint car.
 

I think it's the other way around;
Shelby VIN code "6" and DSO code "4"
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: 557 on April 29, 2019, 08:50:44 PM
Not my cup o tea...prefer lime gold ...
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: Richstang on April 29, 2019, 09:04:10 PM
I always thought that the Bronze 67 and the Silver 67's were good looking colors on the shelby.
I did lean towards the silver one though.

Actually was lucky enough to own one of each at one time.
But passed keeping them, as a Black early one popped up.

>>>>
Not to change the subject, has the original paint 66 yellow car ever surfaced again that i looked at in Ca about 26 years ago?
John

Hi John,

I know you mean the Medium Grey Metallic - Shelby code 4 - Ford DSO code 6 - M32J 1900 paint color and not Silver.
Just so others know Shelby American did not produce any Silver painted '67 Shelby's.

Are you asking about the '67 GT350 in Springtime Yellow? That paint color was available on '67 Mustangs too.
If I recall correctly, that car was put away pending a future restoration. It's a special 1 of 1 paint car (NICE!)
The 2011 registry mentions it was previously paint black possibly in the eighties, so it's not an original paint car.
 

I think it's the other way around;
Shelby VIN code "6" and DSO code "4"

Thanks for keeping me in line on the paint codes JD ... corrections made
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: Bigfoot on April 29, 2019, 09:22:14 PM
Nice color. Looks like Bronze.
Not my first choice tho.
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on April 29, 2019, 11:57:05 PM
I could have lived with the bronze or amber. My vehicle was nasty, disgusting lime gold from Shelby. I don't care how many points are deducted, it's never going to see that ugly color as long as I own it! lol
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: dmg67 on April 30, 2019, 03:44:48 AM
1968 Shelby GT-350 Sunlit Gold...
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: pmustang on April 30, 2019, 06:32:45 AM
I have two gold fastbacks in my stock for sale. Both excellent cars at their price points. Can't sell them for love nor money

Only colour worse is yellow for resale

Everyone says the same..."thought I would hate it but better in person" then they buy another colour car
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: JD on April 30, 2019, 08:12:55 AM
Here is a photo I took of an original bronze car that was being disassembled for restoration.  It had been repainted at some point but not fully taken apart, the color hidden under the upper side scoop is what the original '67 Bronze is really supposed to look like.

The repaint was a darker richer color.  The original color faded after a few years probably didn't look too good.

Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: Harris Speedster on April 30, 2019, 08:56:42 AM
Rich,
Medium grey it is, silver comes to my mind though.

JD, I wonder if that is the Emberglow color they used in 66 ?
Kind of Bronze looking.

No, was not a 67 I looked at that was yellow, it was a 66 gt350
Knock off wheels, cobra G meter, R cage, sound deadened delete>> and more.

After 26 years, I thought it may have surfaced.
Respectfully submitted,
john
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: stangman39 on April 30, 2019, 09:05:01 AM
I know someone who has been looking for a 67 390 FB in burnt amber.
I told him he will be looking for awhile!
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: roddster on April 30, 2019, 09:38:59 AM
  Bronze, lime/gold, brittany blue, silver all seemed to me to "fade" down to a non glossy finish with less than ten years...back in the day.  Unless it was a extraordinary car that was little used and kept out of the sun.  Seems this was a paint supplier issue or an applicator induced issue.  And, for the most part, most of these cars where daily drivers back in the day.
  All these colors look good.  Bronze is attractive.  But, is that due to its small abount of cars painted that color?
  Emberglow:  More to the orange side of the color, not the same.
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: Bigfoot on April 30, 2019, 11:50:29 AM
Based on JD’s photo the color is much more of a sand or light Gold
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Post by: FL SAAC on April 30, 2019, 03:40:15 PM
they all are simply beautiful
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: mark p on April 30, 2019, 05:40:23 PM
I like them.
My sister had a gold Mustang coupe back in the 70s, and we bought the Emberglo T-bird.
(Sorry for the bad Mustang photo, scanning a 40 year-old instamatic camera print is apparently not the best  ???)
(https://i.imgur.com/zYsUNuU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ETKfhF4.jpg)
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: 2112 on April 30, 2019, 06:53:49 PM
^^^That T-Bird is phenomenal.  Wow.
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: mark p on April 30, 2019, 07:23:28 PM
Thanks (all). that color did it for me, this one is # 1485 of the limited edition "Special Landau" models  8)
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: Side-Oilers on April 30, 2019, 07:55:37 PM
Love your T-Bird.  All of the bronze/Emberglo type colors make me fondly think of the mid-1960s. 
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: Bigfoot on April 30, 2019, 08:57:39 PM
I love the Emnerglo. Always wanted that color on something.
I think the Bronze is much flatter.
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: Stillakid54 on May 01, 2019, 07:55:11 AM
Agree with all above, beautiful T bird!
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: mark p on May 01, 2019, 09:28:28 AM
Thanks guys, I maintain that Embergo [in the sun] really stands out  8)

... and I suppose this helps explain why I also really like the Number 4 LeMans GT40 in 1966 (Hawkins/Donahue)  8)
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: Richstang on May 01, 2019, 11:20:56 AM
If anyone knows the whereabouts of car #00152 please let us know!
We really need to see the VIN tag to confirm the paint color code, which we assume is '1' for Bronze Metallic.
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on May 01, 2019, 04:35:12 PM
20 sequenually after and it WAS Lime Green. GAH!
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: 2112 on May 01, 2019, 11:32:12 PM
^^^^You addressed the stance! Looks fantastic!   8)
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Post by: GT350AUS on May 02, 2019, 05:16:16 AM
Not for me
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: Richstang on May 02, 2019, 07:56:14 PM
20 sequenually after and it WAS Lime Green. GAH!

172 was white from the factory...did you mean the one before that?

That GT500 looks tough with those 17" (?) inch wheels and the lowered stance. I bet it handles great on the curves.
Is that a custom shade of blue. I looks like a nice deep color.
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on May 02, 2019, 09:21:56 PM
Yes, the one prior vehicle. No scoop lamps either. ( I wished it did have the lamps. I am in that gap.)  It's medium blue. It's overcast in the picture, which makes it appear darker. The color really flip-flops in different lighting.
Yes, they are the Scott Drake 17X7 and 17X8 10 spokes. Rubber is very limited in 15", which is the reason I elected to change.
It has the Arning drop, 1" front bar, 5/8" rear. Global West 630lb front, Boss trans am rear @175lb rate, KYB dressed as Koni shocks and original traction masters. The bars were chromed.  I am not overwhelmingly happy with the brake system and am considering a conversion in the front to the Trans am brake. 12" brakes. 
I want it to look like factory brakes.
                                                                      -Keith
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: Richstang on May 02, 2019, 11:39:55 PM
Thanks, that number makes more sense. I think the last car with the upper scoop lights might be #158 (#176 the prototype doesn't count).

I can see the color changing. The above photo looks like an overcast day make it appear darker. I think you've posted a rear view on a bright day that look much brighter. The changing color keep it interesting. I can see why you upgraded to 17's. You still keep the basic stock looking wheel but have so many more tire choices. Well done with the mods to make it to your tastes.
 8) 
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: Tired Sheep on May 03, 2019, 07:55:26 AM
Drake wheels= china= no way on my car
Title: Re: What’s your thoughts on Bronze cars?
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on May 03, 2019, 09:18:25 AM
Well, more things than not for our hobby are made over-seas. However, being I have my OE rims and have a direct comparison they Drake rims are very stoutly made. What I also like about them is the cone shape looks right. The vintage wheels are almost flat-faced. Don't turn your nose up so quickly. If they were thin and the beads didn't look good I wouldn't have bought them. I actually ordered one. Then the other four. 
The offset works well too. I am able to get 245-45 front and 255-40 in the rear with a lowered vehicle.  With 512hp and 496lb Tq I need all the traction help I can get.
Here a couple more pictures. I don't think I've ever done a full posting.