Anyone know if late 66's had all iron T-10's and if so around what number may have been the transition from aluminum and iron to all iron transmissions.
Weren't all T10s aluminum?
All 1965 G.T.350 transmissions were aluminum. In 1966 San Jose began to run out of the aluminum cases and mixed iron cases with aluminum tail shafts. I verified for my serial number 1802 I should have a iron main case and aluminum tail shaft.
6S1757 is still running the original all cast iron close ratio T-10. Assembly date is C162....March 1st, 1966, 2nd shift.
I've never seen the assembly date on my T-10. Where would that be located ?
Quote from: s2ms on July 16, 2019, 12:12:19 AM
6S1757 is still running the original all cast iron close ratio T-10. Assembly date is C162....March , 1966, 2nd shift.
6S1732 also has it's original all cast iron close ration T-10 with the same date as 6S1757.
Here is the original transmission from 6S933...aluminum main case and cast iron tail housing.
This also shows the location of the assembly date.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Wstio4gWqYSXaj3H76XR3tIGqnKV-f-pTBkFCdpaUM6ShoSko_tnIIbncZCIE_05wk17YqgpozCNugRvaWcsOhKkb4jkH2xgzkdrutP9gAlEx6Rrp7VkLZWHE-5N7PWaIsTWqYp8WK8-T3Y1RZtOQLx-TqtOhEvwfgkdYpj165mcGSDscAMSmtZpFOUkRuxFaPZZrwYWZwj4i2tCnXVckkHPFWlnJWuPXtz7Cx7pyBzWMCLBDyKrdyL_1fkNOh7momkC38vI4NkF7V-r5CoswhLZzu8GUiikDPr2loG5Wu8CGWmpNHjkr-DcLjltsx9YnrZ2fEUWgBIXf5bhtHmzYLArd1KbTpCRZsP3QB0Ksgyacr_ZEvFFlttm3a6TGeCHuHr7dRVjC4ViGXLIO44AmP6JncYf6D6y8pujJcso1plW9xlunHNwidJ-COuiTTZEd74MdQtyFTvXx_kwW6_fKn68xzxsvdId-Cbr4WZFBI02wOK0Q_m40bBWZZVVugZpVnN4R01s_5p7lW2Rh7OV4oRaINF4hvHwz6_-Z8rySGWK8PlbKKa1yh_c1IzrS-lp7BEbxfh1E5UP74wzO5lTvHut5PC0kMxbcnyWDuRTkDUr9oT-dZBQjZcUhkoESaTcQO-YONQ9IepWPZESL9FcbtKbVYSy3-J1=w600)
Thanks Brant - will have a look for mine the next time I'm under the car.
hi brant . . . can you please de-code the assembly date stamp?
thanks,
alan
Any markings on the cast iron tail assembly?
Steve
Quote from: werthie on July 16, 2019, 03:07:15 PM
hi brant . . . can you please de-code the assembly date stamp?
thanks,
alan
Alan,
The picture of the transmission that I posted has a assembly date stamping of "A1462"
A = January
14 = 14th day of that month
6 = 1966
2 = Maybe a shift number (?)
Quote from: kingchief on July 16, 2019, 04:10:14 PM
Any markings on the cast iron tail assembly?
Steve
Some of them do. In my example from 6S933, the cast iron tail housing is stamped "L 20 65"
L = December
20 = 20th day of that month
65 = 1965
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/G_gU8P4QqOOdzw-1COP1Oa7PZxX9O3SoJAtw2n7CxwosbRxPvD_pGdc-LahY0iR0_XsXUiBQz8lYi_RsUMGdnWxZ-YSHSMip7q8qN3iHPGV7JjHUraoy9OzrN1mt6Tnx5hzvPycd3v4kAmMIuK7R5MKBtqA3baY-cFomgE6LQq-XsOAxhh80iz4ZRIb1FTHogru3-MA0Bj_dqleuIjkP0HUu0-08NMhIifLz-9idCLpLBLm8on_Y6EEt6wIwY_7kuu8s4DvWFWMaL45BJMdiPaaBHdypy8oGA40xirBvTYUUw1hjMu7v1qvmFavExPo0v-P_yGNBKCCgTM_7pAv1BJLkbu4sQ5GuckqcbkxOC1frGLXQDlvgzjpHsGOhm_Hm1nasbKSI2ZV0_-9uDLz3907sqCeFyn-5N5oszaBlUiNW2PBwsGsa-y1_r9rzw4m9GNGtqwSikhM9A86SlxnVx8KC131VeWCGxsLJwcUug2AYNAM0isoJ59mSCih1RnssKEUUQub6niKUfDMGfNogRXlv_s0ct_M0ytnm2DgBgRBh_XaStz67cvKvKOCQQ4SVIgXo-nE3KRUuelY0Vi7HF9E03RNiMp-GwMZFqWPy5bW_x0un7_tH2JcOm7xgpWipz6PbN3v1k0ImH6w-hv81-OyYkluf9RW8=w800-h532-no)
From my experience they pretty much phased out the aluminum T10s right around the time that they went to under ride traction bars. Ive seen aluminum in cars on the 1000s serial wise and Ive seen all cast iron as low as in the 1200s. Ive never seen any factory minutes or paperwork showing they mixed and matched alloy with cast iron in the production cars but Ive seen ads for the transmissions that way . the tailshafts were very fragile and they broke easily
Quote from: acman63 on July 16, 2019, 06:02:16 PM
From my experience they pretty much phased out the aluminum T10s right around the time that they went to under ride traction bars. Ive seen aluminum in cars on the 1000s serial wise and Ive seen all cast iron as low as in the 1200s. Ive never seen any factory minutes or paperwork showing they mixed and matched alloy with cast iron in the production cars but Ive seen ads for the transmissions that way . the tailshafts were very fragile and they broke easily
6S1078 has an all aluminum T10 maybe this was at the switch over point.
Curiosity got the better of me so I had to have a look. 6S1575 is mid March Ford production date, T-10 main housing date is C 162 or March 1, 66 and tail housing is K 15 65 or November 15, 65. Both cast iron.
Quote from: Greg on July 16, 2019, 06:39:18 PM
Quote from: acman63 on July 16, 2019, 06:02:16 PM
From my experience they pretty much phased out the aluminum T10s right around the time that they went to under ride traction bars. Ive seen aluminum in cars on the 1000s serial wise and Ive seen all cast iron as low as in the 1200s. Ive never seen any factory minutes or paperwork showing they mixed and matched alloy with cast iron in the production cars but Ive seen ads for the transmissions that way . the tailshafts were very fragile and they broke easily
6S1078 has an all aluminum T10 maybe this was at the switch over point.
you are probably pretty accurate on that statement
6S1134 has a aluminum case and cast iron tail. Have not checked the date code in a while.
Greek
There was a thread a while back where there were quite a few responses for cars near Greekz's and mine (1114) that had aluminum cases and cast iron tailshafts.
Quote from: jk66gt350 on July 16, 2019, 06:51:38 PM
Curiosity got the better of me so I had to have a look. 6S1575 is mid March Ford production date, T-10 main housing date is C 162 or March 1, 66 and tail housing is K 15 65 or November 15, 65. Both cast iron.
6S1757 original tail housing is dated K 23 65, think the "K" is actually October since I assume there would have been no "I" dated month? Looks like there may have been a batch of these all cast iron close ratio T-10's assembled on 3/1/66.
Great information. I have an additional question. I think 67 GT350 had VIN number stamped on housing what about 1966 GT-350's? Was the VIN stamped on trannys? thank you
Question for Brant, s2ms, and jk66gt350, since all of yours were assembled on March 1, are the casting dates on the case and tailshaft the same too?
6S550 has aluminum case and tail shaft housing. Ron
Tomdeg - Further to my post earlier in this thread dated July 2019, for 6S1575 the T-10 main housing date is C 162 or March 1, 66 and tail housing is K 15 65 or November 15, 65. Both cast iron. John
Hi John,
Thanks for the reply, but I was asking if the CASTING date of the main cases were all the same. I understand the ASSEMBLY date for all is C 162.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I'm out of town for a few days and won't have a chance to have a look for the casting date until some time later next week. I'll let you know when I get to it.
Quote from: Tomdeg on October 14, 2022, 01:41:52 PM
Question for Brant, s2ms, and jk66gt350, since all of yours were assembled on March 1, are the casting dates on the case and tailshaft the same too?
Checked my notes and I could not find a casting date on the main case, only the tail housing. Next time I'm under the car I'll check and report if I find anything...
Dave
2170 was Iron
Just looked at the letters / numbers on my main case and tail housing. I assume the casting date on the main case is just to the right of the W-1, which is under WO DIV. It's small and very hard to make out but it appears to be * 6 1 *
1122 has iron case and tailshaft. orig to car (except hurst shifter) car was feb 66 at ford, and shelby.