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Title: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: wcampbell on August 01, 2019, 07:47:23 PM
Anyone out there know the max width for 15" Avon CR6ZZ tires you can put under a 1965 GT350 with the standard wheel openings (no flares) avoiding interference for normal street driving? Better yet - if you have a pic of a car with such could you show it? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Wayne
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: shlby66 on August 02, 2019, 10:56:03 AM


    Been running, AVON CR6ZZ  225/65x15's  on PS Engineering 15" x 8" Wheels, for over 14 years,
    now, on my '66 Carryover. I have No clearance issues. Others, may have different, experiences.

     Doug   
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: deathsled on August 02, 2019, 12:45:25 PM
I have Kumo 205 16R 15 on my 66 front fenders and no modifications done to front fenders. A arms are lowered as well.  215 in the back.
Not a lot of miles on them. Maybe 5,000.00. But...they are OLD! 7 years old actually so I need to replace them. The rubber loses its elasticity over time. And when you buy tires check the manufacture date on them. NOS doesn't cut it where tires are concerned, gentlemen. Show yes. Go no!

Richard E.
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: SFM6S087 on August 02, 2019, 01:56:43 PM
They are Firestones instead of Avons, but I have 215/65R15 on the original Cragars on my carryover. Lowered A-arms, the same as your '65. The only interference I have is during a full lock turn on uneven ground. I just don't to a full lock turn into my rising driveway. Other than than, no problems in normal street driving.

Steve
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: 6s1640 on August 02, 2019, 01:58:36 PM
I am hearing the 225/60R15 is also a nice fit, little shorter and wider tread compared to the 225/65R15.  Please advise the best place to purchase AVON Tyres.

Thanks

Cory

Size               RIM CHOICE (IN)   RIM USED (IN)   PSI   DIAMETER (IN)   SECTION (IN)   TREAD (IN)   REVS/MILE
225/60R15    6.0 TO 8.0               6.5                   30        25.7               9.13                   8.07                  785
225/65R15    6.0 TO 8.0               6.5                   30        26.7                9.1                    7.2                    756
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: Rickmustang on August 02, 2019, 01:59:57 PM
225 60-15 all way around on my 65
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: 6s1640 on August 02, 2019, 06:48:08 PM
Hi all,

I found Roger Krauser Racing at 2896 Grove Way, Castro Valley, CA 94546. 1-800-510-RACE.  Their site has the price sheets on the CR6ZZ tyres.

https://rogerkrausracing.com/index.php/race-tire-pricing/

Cory
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: gt350bp on August 02, 2019, 07:16:50 PM
I have 225 / 60 x 15 (front) and 245 / 60 x 15 (rear) mounted on Torque Thrust D's. Front fender lips flattened as well as the rear. I did have 255 / 60 x 15 R1's on the rear, but they rubbed when full fuel tank. This is on a 65 GT 350 Competition replica with the large tank.

Don
gt350bp
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on August 03, 2019, 03:17:02 PM
Sasco Sports at VIR carries AVON as well as most of the other major brands of racing tires: http://www.sascosports.com/tires.asp
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: chris NOS on August 03, 2019, 05:14:25 PM
205/70/15 on 5S241 , it's the more close to original's blue dots .
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: Shelby_r_b on August 03, 2019, 10:32:58 PM
Quote from: chris NOS on August 03, 2019, 05:14:25 PM
205/70/15 on 5S241 , it's the more close to original's blue dots .

I'm using the same size as well on 6S141. 

It's funny - at first, they looked narrow to me since, as you mentioned, they are close to the size of the original blue dots.  However, I've really found the size to be extremely pleasing visually.  They give the car more of an original look, IMO.  And, with radials, they handle well, too.

Although, my 67 Shelby has much, much wider tires in the front and back with no rubbing.
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: dockbay on August 08, 2019, 05:47:37 PM
I have the CR6ZZ's (205/70/15) that I bought from Roger Krause racing on 5S276. They are mounted on 15X7 Torq-Thrust D's. I drove the car from San Rafael, CA to Moline IL with NO issues. I use this combo for everyday driving and put the Cragars and Blue Dot's on for shows... Just bare in mind that these are soft racing tires and don't expect to get 20,000 miles out of them!!

Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: Rbwiii on August 28, 2019, 08:26:28 AM
I just recently retired my 66 350 from concours showing and want to replace my blue dots so I have good drivability.
Reading this thread Avon tires seem to be a solution...why?
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on August 28, 2019, 11:25:03 AM
Not trying to muddy the waters here but the Vredestein Sprint Classic is an other alternative:  https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Vredestein&tireModel=Sprint+Classic&partnum=07WR5SC
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: 1690 on August 28, 2019, 12:39:41 PM
I bought mine from Nick Acton.

225 should be fine
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: madeulook on August 28, 2019, 01:52:23 PM
They are really cool looking and really expensive - Hoosiers from Lake Geneva, Wi - Berget Tire - new and used - for $50 to $150 a corner - Street TD's - drive the crap out of these.
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: Shelby_r_b on August 28, 2019, 03:05:02 PM
Quote from: NC TRACKRAT on August 28, 2019, 11:25:03 AM
Not trying to muddy the waters here but the Vredestein Sprint Classic is an other alternative:  https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Vredestein&tireModel=Sprint+Classic&partnum=07WR5SC

That's funny you mention these, Stan, as I these are the exact tires I ordered and am currently using on 6S141!

And, for the price and functionality, I love them!
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: mark p on August 28, 2019, 05:31:24 PM
Quote from: NC TRACKRAT on August 28, 2019, 11:25:03 AM
Not trying to muddy the waters here but the Vredestein Sprint Classic is an other alternative:  https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Vredestein&tireModel=Sprint+Classic&partnum=07WR5SC

I just got a set of those for the Tiger (205/60VR-13), took the first ride on Sunday - all seems good. With all of the caution about breaking in new tires, I did not push it around any ramps or curves [yet]. I did take a run down a sparsely occupied highway, and it was very smooth, I "may have" gone a little over the posted speed  ???
The shop noted that they balanced really well - at least one had no weights.
Seems like I looked at these a couple of years ago... but now the prices are quite a bit LOWER(?)
I also checked my old file... and I did put a set of the "old version" of these on the car (185/70-13) back  in 1985 when we first bought it.
Full disclosure: I was just selected as a "tire tester" for Vredestein.
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: Gary on November 03, 2019, 01:01:50 PM
I have AVON 215/60R/15 in the front and 225/60R/15 in the rear on the car right now. When racing the car has had Hoosier and Goodyears on it.
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: Shelby_r_b on November 03, 2019, 02:20:36 PM
Quote from: gsharapa on November 03, 2019, 01:01:50 PM
I have AVON 215/60R/15 in the front and 225/60R/15 in the rear on the car right now. When racing the car has had Hoosier and Goodyears on it.

Sweet garage and car graphics! 👍🏻
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: CSX 4133 on November 03, 2019, 03:29:52 PM

Where do you race your 350 gsharapa, I've not seen it before?  Interestingly enough my 350 bears the exact same number (#74).
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: CSX2259 on November 03, 2019, 04:44:37 PM
As far as I know there are only two CR6ZZ dealers in North America, Roger Kraus on the west coast and SASCO Motorsports on the east coast.
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: CSX 4133 on November 03, 2019, 09:00:53 PM

The other dealer is Frisby Performance Tire in Illinois.


http://www.avonmotorsport.com/dealer-locator/usa/frisby-performance-tire
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: mlplunkett on January 06, 2022, 12:16:48 PM
I'm not finding anything on a web search for the Hoosier Street TDs. Have they been discontinued? Anybody got another recommendation for a good street/track Hoosier for an R-Model application?
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: 1109RWHP on January 07, 2022, 11:23:54 PM
https://shop.hoosiertire.com/circuit-racing/p275-60d-15-street-td-s.html
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: 1109RWHP on January 07, 2022, 11:25:51 PM
https://www.hoosiertire.com/news/article/66393/New_Hoosier_TD_Tire_Line_Announced
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: Jcole65GT on January 08, 2022, 12:10:19 AM
I purchased CR6ZZ for my 65 435hp 15" wheel coupe (205/60 and 225/60) and was never able to push to my moderate driver ability. Visual and performance for tire life is not matched. I had 3k plus before car sold and looked Like new.

Jerry Cole
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: Jcole65GT on January 08, 2022, 12:22:34 AM
CR6Zz
Title: Re: Tire shopping - Avon CR6ZZ question
Post by: CSX 4133 on January 08, 2022, 06:29:26 AM

The Avon's would be a better choice for street and occasional track day. The Hoosier TD-R's are not DOT certified, but a dedicated track tire and are a little pricey at $830/ea. depending on sizing.